Earlier quotes....AWESOME!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not a fan. Easier for me to show earlier quotes right away, so I don’t spend time trying to interpret a post only to find it doesn’t make sense truncated.

Sorry sweetie. You are waaay outvoted.

OK, if you call this a vote. Really, I think the change is a bad idea. The reader ought to see what the poster chose to post. If a thread consists of post after post of cascading quotes, that in itself tells the reader something about the thread and the care, or lack thereof, that has gone into it. The change also reduces the incentive to put together a nicely composed post with proper use of quotes and perhaps bolding, because it'll be squashed down into a single quote that may not stand by itself.

Blah blah blah

There are some trade offs but this is much better

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not a fan. Easier for me to show earlier quotes right away, so I don’t spend time trying to interpret a post only to find it doesn’t make sense truncated.

Sorry sweetie. You are waaay outvoted.

OK, if you call this a vote. Really, I think the change is a bad idea. The reader ought to see what the poster chose to post. If a thread consists of post after post of cascading quotes, that in itself tells the reader something about the thread and the care, or lack thereof, that has gone into it. The change also reduces the incentive to put together a nicely composed post with proper use of quotes and perhaps bolding, because it'll be squashed down into a single quote that may not stand by itself.

There are actually four threads about the collapse quotes feature and, as far as I remember, you are the first and only naysayer. So, it's not so much that this is a vote, but that your opinion is an outlier.

The "Earlier quotes - can you make it display two quotes instead of just one?" OP, and some others on that thread, aren't happy with the new state of affairs. They're asking for two contextual quotes instead of one, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility that some of them don't like the whole thing.

How about initially displaying posts as written, and provide a button in the page header that will hide all but N quotes on each post on the page? N could come from a pulldown list next to the button, that's initialized to 1 or 2 or whatever you decide.

[Anonymous]

I like the earlier quotes option.

[Anonymous]

Posts make less sense now. People respond to the visible quote, rather than to the entire thread. The conversation is lost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Posts make less sense now. People respond to the visible quote, rather than to the entire thread. The conversation is lost.

There are very few people who respond to an endlessly quote comment and actually read more than the bottom one or two comments. Instead, you make it painful for anyone who isn't sitting at their computer procrastinating from doing work, to actually see and scroll through the thread.

The worst is when you have 2 people bickering who can't be bothered to clip their quotes and they will fill 2-3 pages with their replies that just get longer and longer and longer.

For those who want the conversation, they can click the button at the top to expand the comment chain. Also, if they are replying, when you go to the reply page, it will show the entire chain. They can read it there.

For those who read DCUM on smaller devices like tablets and phones, this is a godsend to avoid having to swipe over and over just to get to the next comment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Posts make less sense now. People respond to the visible quote, rather than to the entire thread. The conversation is lost.

There are very few people who respond to an endlessly quote comment and actually read more than the bottom one or two comments. Instead, you make it painful for anyone who isn't sitting at their computer procrastinating from doing work, to actually see and scroll through the thread.

The worst is when you have 2 people bickering who can't be bothered to clip their quotes and they will fill 2-3 pages with their replies that just get longer and longer and longer.

For those who want the conversation, they can click the button at the top to expand the comment chain. Also, if they are replying, when you go to the reply page, it will show the entire chain. They can read it there.

For those who read DCUM on smaller devices like tablets and phones, this is a godsend to avoid having to swipe over and over just to get to the next comment.

Then just get rid of quoting altogether. Because right now, the conversations are just a mess. Some posters are responding to the thread and some are responding to the visible post.

[Anonymous]

Quote only selected text, like on the Discourse platform.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Posts make less sense now. People respond to the visible quote, rather than to the entire thread. The conversation is lost.

There are very few people who respond to an endlessly quote comment and actually read more than the bottom one or two comments. Instead, you make it painful for anyone who isn't sitting at their computer procrastinating from doing work, to actually see and scroll through the thread.

The worst is when you have 2 people bickering who can't be bothered to clip their quotes and they will fill 2-3 pages with their replies that just get longer and longer and longer.

For those who want the conversation, they can click the button at the top to expand the comment chain. Also, if they are replying, when you go to the reply page, it will show the entire chain. They can read it there.

For those who read DCUM on smaller devices like tablets and phones, this is a godsend to avoid having to swipe over and over just to get to the next comment.

Then just get rid of quoting altogether. Because right now, the conversations are just a mess. Some posters are responding to the thread and some are responding to the visible post.

You have a very small minority opinion. A significant majority have chimed in that they like the new quotation style.

[Anonymous]

great JOb!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Posts make less sense now. People respond to the visible quote, rather than to the entire thread. The conversation is lost.

There are very few people who respond to an endlessly quote comment and actually read more than the bottom one or two comments. Instead, you make it painful for anyone who isn't sitting at their computer procrastinating from doing work, to actually see and scroll through the thread.

The worst is when you have 2 people bickering who can't be bothered to clip their quotes and they will fill 2-3 pages with their replies that just get longer and longer and longer.

For those who want the conversation, they can click the button at the top to expand the comment chain. Also, if they are replying, when you go to the reply page, it will show the entire chain. They can read it there.

For those who read DCUM on smaller devices like tablets and phones, this is a godsend to avoid having to swipe over and over just to get to the next comment.

Then just get rid of quoting altogether. Because right now, the conversations are just a mess. Some posters are responding to the thread and some are responding to the visible post.

You have a very small minority opinion. A significant majority have chimed in that they like the new quotation style.

I realize that I am in the minority. I am pointing out that it doesn't work very well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Posts make less sense now. People respond to the visible quote, rather than to the entire thread. The conversation is lost.

There are very few people who respond to an endlessly quote comment and actually read more than the bottom one or two comments. Instead, you make it painful for anyone who isn't sitting at their computer procrastinating from doing work, to actually see and scroll through the thread.

The worst is when you have 2 people bickering who can't be bothered to clip their quotes and they will fill 2-3 pages with their replies that just get longer and longer and longer.

For those who want the conversation, they can click the button at the top to expand the comment chain. Also, if they are replying, when you go to the reply page, it will show the entire chain. They can read it there.

For those who read DCUM on smaller devices like tablets and phones, this is a godsend to avoid having to swipe over and over just to get to the next comment.

Then just get rid of quoting altogether. Because right now, the conversations are just a mess. Some posters are responding to the thread and some are responding to the visible post.

You have a very small minority opinion. A significant majority have chimed in that they like the new quotation style.

I realize that I am in the minority. I am pointing out that it doesn't work very well.

Being in the minority of expressed opinions, especially in this low-traffic part of DCUM, doesn't mean anything. The important thing is that you're right. How could this display change (not a "new quotation style") work well? Posts are being truncated, without regard for the effect on intelligibility. Yeah, you can see the entire post by clicking a button, but most users won't notice that, or click it if they do notice. Much less click a button on multiple posts.

Further, note some posters' insistence that only truncating down to one quote is good enough. Can't have two quotes, even though that'll increase the proportion of posts that are left intact. Everyone else's experience, and DCUM itself, should be compromised so these people can scroll through DCUM as fast as possible?

[Anonymous]

Jeff, is this still being tested or is it a permanent feature now?

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, is this still being tested or is it a permanent feature now?

Permanent I guess. Most people seem to like it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Posts make less sense now. People respond to the visible quote, rather than to the entire thread. The conversation is lost.

I agree. I don’t like it. It doesn’t always make sense and you also lose the context for the comment. I vote to bring back the old way!

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Posts make less sense now. People respond to the visible quote, rather than to the entire thread. The conversation is lost.

I agree. I don’t like it. It doesn’t always make sense and you also lose the context for the comment. I vote to bring back the old way!

Just click the button and you will be back to the old way.