this can't be MCPS policy, can it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the school isn’t doing anything your friend needs to get the Police involved. And I don’t suggest involving the Police lightly.

and directly with the police, not the police through MCPS.

This. If someone is threatening your kid with rape or murder and the school doesn’t handle it swiftly, contact the police.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:File a Bully report and then a police report.

+1. Very important to file the bully report to get school actio .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unless you have lived under a rock or never read these forums, you know that IS MCPS policy. Kids get shuffled around and they do not get expelled.

Really? That's odd a kid was expelled from DC's school for similar behavior.

[Anonymous]

OP here,
thank you for all the suggestions and confirmation that this is not what is supposed to happen. My friend tried contacting the superintendent but apparently he didnt return her emails. After the "kill list" she finally went to the police (the harassment had been happening for months before, but it was always about rape, not murder). The police actually did go to the boy's house, Unfortunately, because they could not find a physical list they said they could do nothing more unless friend files a lawsuit.

I don't know if she's tried the peace order or bully report, those are great suggestions, thank you.

I get the need for due process, and for children to be treated differently than adults and allowed some time to rehabilitate, and why the police couldn't do more without physical evidence or having the girl go through the traumatizing process of a lawsuit.

HOWEVER this all seems so, so wrong. the girl is left so traumatized she needs professional help and the boy isn't even suspended or put into separate classes, and the administration can't even respond to a parent's very serious concern. I cant help but feel that if the boy said these things to another boy, or to a teacher, it would be taken very differently.

I'm trying to get friend to speak up to the PTA or something, even if she moves or changes schools, for the good of the other kids because honestly--though i admit that i'm not around teens or tweens much--sounds pretty sociopathic to me. and if he's doing it this young, and with so few consequences, i can see his behavior escalating to something even more dangerous. I am so glad i don't have a daughter or any child that goes to that school.

[Anonymous]

Can you please name the school?

[Anonymous]

If I was your friend, I would document all of the incidents and all of my outreach to the district, then I would meet with a lawyer (in my area, I know exactly who I would go to first-he's got experience with ed case and is a pitbull).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless you have lived under a rock or never read these forums, you know that IS MCPS policy. Kids get shuffled around and they do not get expelled.

Really? That's odd a kid was expelled from DC's school for similar behavior.

Expelled??? Or just moved to another school and all you know is the kid is gone.

[Anonymous]

Other than contacting the superintendent and police you don’t mention what efforts your friends has made. Your friend hasn’t even done a bully report which is something that most people know about. There is a lot of anger on this board and in this thread toward MCPS but real help can’t be given without more information

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Other than contacting the superintendent and police you don’t mention what efforts your friends has made. Your friend hasn’t even done a bully report which is something that most people know about. There is a lot of anger on this board and in this thread toward MCPS but real help can’t be given without more information

Didn’t read, did you? Come on mcps pr, read the thread before posting stupid responses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:File a Bully report and then a police report.

Other way around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here,
thank you for all the suggestions and confirmation that this is not what is supposed to happen. My friend tried contacting the superintendent but apparently he didnt return her emails. After the "kill list" she finally went to the police (the harassment had been happening for months before, but it was always about rape, not murder). The police actually did go to the boy's house, Unfortunately, because they could not find a physical list they said they could do nothing more unless friend files a lawsuit.

I don't know if she's tried the peace order or bully report, those are great suggestions, thank you.

I get the need for due process, and for children to be treated differently than adults and allowed some time to rehabilitate, and why the police couldn't do more without physical evidence or having the girl go through the traumatizing process of a lawsuit.

HOWEVER this all seems so, so wrong. the girl is left so traumatized she needs professional help and the boy isn't even suspended or put into separate classes, and the administration can't even respond to a parent's very serious concern. I cant help but feel that if the boy said these things to another boy, or to a teacher, it would be taken very differently.

I'm trying to get friend to speak up to the PTA or something, even if she moves or changes schools, for the good of the other kids because honestly--though i admit that i'm not around teens or tweens much--sounds pretty sociopathic to me. and if he's doing it this young, and with so few consequences, i can see his behavior escalating to something even more dangerous. I am so glad i don't have a daughter or any child that goes to that school.

You mean the principal?

[Anonymous]

The principal at our highly regarded middle school blamed our daughter for similar bullying happening to her. I tried to speak out and you all blame me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The principal at our highly regarded middle school blamed our daughter for similar bullying happening to her. I tried to speak out and you all blame me.

Sorry, I realize that's not advice. So I will tell you what we did.

1.) Got a peace order.
2.) Filed police reports for each episode.
3.) Threatened to sue until we got a transfer to a different school, which we did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:File a Bully report and then a police report.

Other way around.

In addition to filing a police report, bullying complaint and exploring some kind of restraining order, please also consider filing a Title IX complaint - https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/compliance/titleIX-sexualassault/

What you describe is a form of prohibited sexual harassment by creating a hostile school environment and schools have a duty to create a safe learning environment.

Sexual harrassment and denial of equal access to school could be considered a civil rights violation, which can open the system up to a law suit and treble damages. It’s important to get it all on paper. Establishing that MCPS is aware of these issues and non-responsive makes them vulnerable.

Also, see if the girl can get friends of hers or his to share screen shots of social media posts with these threats. Sometimes the perpetrator can even be baited by a peer into admitting the threats and these can be preserved with screenshots. Ask about group chats or threats in comments on SM, or by DM.

This is how a perpetrator was outed in my DD’s extended friend group - two different guys making two different unrelated threats! (Threats less serious than rape or bodily harm)

Sadly girls still experience a huge amount of sexual assault and harassment in school. School officials tend to do nothing unless pushed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The principal at our highly regarded middle school blamed our daughter for similar bullying happening to her. I tried to speak out and you all blame me.

If this is the kid at my kid's down county middle school a few years ago, she antagonized kids repeatedly and was more bully than bullied. That was not similar.

I am sorry, school admin has responded poorly, OP. I hope the bullying report and/or police can help.