Natalie Portman

[Anonymous]

I still don’t get what she did? Other than wearing the dress with the names and Rose McGowan calling it out as lazy activism. Which in the one hand is true, but also is not an example Portman being smug or tearing down other women.

I don’t think it’s fair to get mad at someone who was clearly sexualized in roles she played while underage (not just the Professional but also Beautiful Girls) for failing to speak out and protect others quickly enough. It’s not like people instantly understand and process an experience like that when they become adults. You have to leave space for someone to struggle with their lives experience of misogyny or abuse. Many people live in denial and this is pretty normal.

[Anonymous]

I was around her once for a job and she was horribly smug. She didn't even try to be friendly.

[Anonymous]

I knew a journalist who did a piece on her in the early 2000s. She met in a cafe in London and the journalist said cheekily (female) can I see your hotel room? So Natalie let her in. And there was a table full of fresh fruit and nice, healthy things to eat. The journalist asked if she was having a party and Natalie shrugged and said that she wasn't - it was just how she found her hotel rooms to be when she visited places.

She was down to earth, unaware of her status other than being a genuine artist and intellectual. There was nothing smug about her.

The journalist talked to me at length about how unusual she was, how unaffected by fame yet accustomed to it's trappings.

That's not smug. Not really. Maybe she's said things in the press which have been considered smug, but that's not and never is a reflection of an entire person.

That's my 2 cents, anyway.

[Anonymous]

this is kinda worse than smug. at least smug I can relate to

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All I know is that my friend went to Harvard when she did, and said she was very taken with herself, had the attitude of "don't you know who I am?" around the Boston bars.

I mean, isn’t that the behavior of many 20 year olds at prestigious schools?

None.

Haha as someone who went to school in Boston but not Harvard or MIT I can say that many Harvard students acted smug just because they went to Harvard.

[Anonymous]

Doesn't your description fit 98% of Hollywood elite...especially when they were young and up& coming?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, like Mayim Bialik but not as wretched. Basically she was lauded as 'the smart one who doesn't show off her body/takes 'smart roles''... and was late to the me too movement.

Rose McGowan summed it up best when she eyerolled at her wearing the dress with female film maker names on it:

“the kind of protest that gets rave reviews from the mainstream media” but was “more like an actress acting the part of someone who cares. As so many of them do.”

She FINALLY came out re: early sexualization when she was a kid starting out in movies. I remember seeing 'the professional' as a kid myself at the time and thinking 'holy inappropriate'...Think: had you ever heard her raise this issue/try to prevent other younger actors/kids from being sexualized prior to WAAAAAY after me too? Nope. She's late enough to the game- I know everyone walks their personal journey and she may have needed all those years to come to terms with herself... but I don't think she is less of a jerk.

You lost me at Rose McGowan rolling her eyes at Natalie Portman's dress. Do you remember Rose coming nekkid to an event with the abusive creep Manson guy?? Natalie Portman could have been sexualized as a child actor and maybe was too young to realize what was happening or to protest. I don't think she has torn down any woman but yes, she strikes me as very low key and almost reclusive at times. Rose was out there, not an A-lister, flaunted her body, and I have no doubt was seen as more of a prey by predetors. But, not every woman has to be raped by Weinstein to feel solidarity with MeToo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, like Mayim Bialik but not as wretched. Basically she was lauded as 'the smart one who doesn't show off her body/takes 'smart roles''... and was late to the me too movement.

Rose McGowan summed it up best when she eyerolled at her wearing the dress with female film maker names on it:

“the kind of protest that gets rave reviews from the mainstream media” but was “more like an actress acting the part of someone who cares. As so many of them do.”

She FINALLY came out re: early sexualization when she was a kid starting out in movies. I remember seeing 'the professional' as a kid myself at the time and thinking 'holy inappropriate'...Think: had you ever heard her raise this issue/try to prevent other younger actors/kids from being sexualized prior to WAAAAAY after me too? Nope. She's late enough to the game- I know everyone walks their personal journey and she may have needed all those years to come to terms with herself... but I don't think she is less of a jerk.

You lost me at Rose McGowan rolling her eyes at Natalie Portman's dress. Do you remember Rose coming nekkid to an event with the abusive creep Manson guy?? Natalie Portman could have been sexualized as a child actor and maybe was too young to realize what was happening or to protest. I don't think she has torn down any woman but yes, she strikes me as very low key and almost reclusive at times. Rose was out there, not an A-lister, flaunted her body, and I have no doubt was seen as more of a prey by predetors. But, not every woman has to be raped by Weinstein to feel solidarity with MeToo.

+1

Really don't get what we are faulting NP here for. So far I've just got rumors of being smug and full of herself, not speaking up about her childhood experiences (we don't know how she feels about them) and not being as much of an activist as Rose (was there some assignment she was unaware of?). I don't see NP tearing other women down here, rather I see the opposite happening here.

[Anonymous]

I haven't been able to take her since I read that article where she accused an innocent man who had never heard of her of stalking her. He was reading a book on a bench near her house. The police laughed about it and said it happens all the time, she had repeatedly accusing people who have no idea where she lived of stalking her.

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Natalie-Portman-s-stalker-fears-Paltrow-s-deal-3303576.php

[Anonymous]

I think the tension with her is that she seems to want to be seen as a serious actress, but she doesn’t do serious work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I haven't been able to take her since I read that article where she accused an innocent man who had never heard of her of stalking her. He was reading a book on a bench near her house. The police laughed about it and said it happens all the time, she had repeatedly accusing people who have no idea where she lived of stalking her.

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Natalie-Portman-s-stalker-fears-Paltrow-s-deal-3303576.php

That’s pretty bad. I am guessing the man wasn’t white.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the tension with her is that she seems to want to be seen as a serious actress, but she doesn’t do serious work.

I really don’t think she’s very good. She was good in black swan but that staring intense look seems to be her one note. I hate those perfume ads she does with such a passion that I almost can’t see her in anything else. What would you do for love?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I haven't been able to take her since I read that article where she accused an innocent man who had never heard of her of stalking her. He was reading a book on a bench near her house. The police laughed about it and said it happens all the time, she had repeatedly accusing people who have no idea where she lived of stalking her.

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Natalie-Portman-s-stalker-fears-Paltrow-s-deal-3303576.php

Do you know how to read? The article says it was her mother who called and no one used the term stalker. Natalie knew nothing about it.

[Anonymous]

We stayed at the same hotel for Obama's first inauguration. There was a line of people waiting to get cabs to the Mall. She walked to the front of the line and grabbed a cab out of someone else's hands. Highly annoying.

[Anonymous]

I don’t know Natalie and she may be a lovely person, however to me she comes across as a person with about average intellect who really wants to appear smart. Brad Pitt and Matthew McConohay also give the same impression.