11 schools going virtual for 14 days starting tomorrow, 1/5

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How does the 180 days work here? Anyone know?


There’s no 180 day in-person requirement anymore. MSDE already said they weren’t going to go after PG County.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How does the 180 days work here? Anyone know?


There’s no 180 day in-person requirement anymore. MSDE already said they weren’t going to go after PG County.


Well i guess that's good. One of my kids is at these schools. The other 2 aren't. So i was wondering how the extended year would work.

Of course, by the end of this, all 3 will likely go thru months of this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How does the 180 days work here? Anyone know?


There’s no 180 day in-person requirement anymore. MSDE already said they weren’t going to go after PG County.


Well i guess that's good. One of my kids is at these schools. The other 2 aren't. So i was wondering how the extended year would work.

Of course, by the end of this, all 3 will likely go thru months of this.


The state is the one that has the guidance about 5%. Shutting them down is aligned with that guidance. The issue was shifting the entire school district online — but as PP said, the state has backed off of that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I hope our district doesn’t follow the stupidity, but if they do, I would be most mad for the fact they didn’t announce it beforehand! We could have stayed at our destination longer and traveled in the off peak days


Ahh yes. If only the entire community would sacrifice even more so you could save a little more money on your vacation.

Allow me to apologize on behalf of the world that you traveled during the holidays amid a pandemic and didn’t get the best deal.
The rest of us will stay home so it’s safe when you get back from your discounted holiday.

Is there anything else we can do for you? I’ve kept my kids home for 2 weeks so they would be safe and wouldn’t bring Covid to school.
We will just suck it up when your germy kids float back in from your cheap vacation. So glad to be of service.

The comments on here reflect why this won’t end.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope our district doesn’t follow the stupidity, but if they do, I would be most mad for the fact they didn’t announce it beforehand! We could have stayed at our destination longer and traveled in the off peak days


Ahh yes. If only the entire community would sacrifice even more so you could save a little more money on your vacation.

Allow me to apologize on behalf of the world that you traveled during the holidays amid a pandemic and didn’t get the best deal.
The rest of us will stay home so it’s safe when you get back from your discounted holiday.

Is there anything else we can do for you? I’ve kept my kids home for 2 weeks so they would be safe and wouldn’t bring Covid to school.
We will just suck it up when your germy kids float back in from your cheap vacation. So glad to be of service.

The comments on here reflect why this won’t end.



Give it a rest, scarlet.
- different poster
Anonymous
There's probably no real pattern to these schools because it's such a small number-- better testing? more reporting? actual outbreak among a geographic or demographic group?

But I plotted them out on a map to at least get an idea.

This might work-- I could only add 10 here-- I'm missing Sherwood ES in Olney

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Cannon+Road+Elementary+School/Forest+Knolls+Elementary+School/North+Chevy+Chase+Elementary/Rock+Terrace+School/Rosemont+Elementary+School/Roberto+Clemente+Middle+School/Waters+Landing+Elementary+School/Hallie+Wells+Middle+School/Seneca+Valley+High+School/Monocacy+Elementary+School/@39.1144777,-77.3331571,11z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m62!4m61!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7c543c42bddb1:0xd2a84447424691b0!2m2!1d-76.9943994!2d39.0687916!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7cf65e1371b47:0x78db13e513b53cee!2m2!1d-77.0203899!2d39.0336879!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7c93bdc873e47:0x1f5d39fe3709c810!2m2!1d-77.0730537!2d38.9989746!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7cd70175a43ab:0x2379fe14b940c44d!2m2!1d-77.1600719!2d39.0932441!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7d2b6e52d8ca5:0xd76073f712b51197!2m2!1d-77.1858649!2d39.1248122!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62c5a79e01aff:0x4fd1af6ada87d71e!2m2!1d-77.2476655!2d39.1655849!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62c120435f31b:0x3e08b20b849078b3!2m2!1d-77.2684843!2d39.1889705!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62b0735840c73:0xdef71f9339502584!2m2!1d-77.2399467!2d39.2323039!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62c3f68382f17:0xa6f2ec92ae7c0041!2m2!1d-77.2641458!2d39.1744841!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62611b4aee1ed:0x1ea23f535b2cb1d7!2m2!1d-77.3930382!2d39.2242571!3e0

It looks like:

3 Downcounty
1 Rockville
1 Gaithersburg
1 Olney
5 Germantown and points north

Again, probably means nothing, but almost half the schools are in ~Germantown, which has about 10% of the MoCo population.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How does the 180 days work here? Anyone know?


There’s no 180 day in-person requirement anymore. MSDE already said they weren’t going to go after PG County.


The 180 day requirement is for the district. Individual schools do not have to make up emergency closures. For example, when an induvial school closes due to a water main break or loss of power they don't make up the day. Similarly, if a school is relocating to a holding school they often close a day or two early for packing and don't make up that day. Additionally, schools are not closed, just virtual, so classes are being held and it seems the state is accepting that given the circumstances.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There's probably no real pattern to these schools because it's such a small number-- better testing? more reporting? actual outbreak among a geographic or demographic group?

But I plotted them out on a map to at least get an idea.

This might work-- I could only add 10 here-- I'm missing Sherwood ES in Olney

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Cannon+Road+Elementary+School/Forest+Knolls+Elementary+School/North+Chevy+Chase+Elementary/Rock+Terrace+School/Rosemont+Elementary+School/Roberto+Clemente+Middle+School/Waters+Landing+Elementary+School/Hallie+Wells+Middle+School/Seneca+Valley+High+School/Monocacy+Elementary+School/@39.1144777,-77.3331571,11z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m62!4m61!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7c543c42bddb1:0xd2a84447424691b0!2m2!1d-76.9943994!2d39.0687916!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7cf65e1371b47:0x78db13e513b53cee!2m2!1d-77.0203899!2d39.0336879!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7c93bdc873e47:0x1f5d39fe3709c810!2m2!1d-77.0730537!2d38.9989746!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7cd70175a43ab:0x2379fe14b940c44d!2m2!1d-77.1600719!2d39.0932441!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7d2b6e52d8ca5:0xd76073f712b51197!2m2!1d-77.1858649!2d39.1248122!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62c5a79e01aff:0x4fd1af6ada87d71e!2m2!1d-77.2476655!2d39.1655849!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62c120435f31b:0x3e08b20b849078b3!2m2!1d-77.2684843!2d39.1889705!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62b0735840c73:0xdef71f9339502584!2m2!1d-77.2399467!2d39.2323039!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62c3f68382f17:0xa6f2ec92ae7c0041!2m2!1d-77.2641458!2d39.1744841!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62611b4aee1ed:0x1ea23f535b2cb1d7!2m2!1d-77.3930382!2d39.2242571!3e0

It looks like:

3 Downcounty
1 Rockville
1 Gaithersburg
1 Olney
5 Germantown and points north

Again, probably means nothing, but almost half the schools are in ~Germantown, which has about 10% of the MoCo population.


I teach in Germantown and not surprised. There is a lot of shared housing up there with multiple families under one roof. Many parents who don't have jobs that allow for sick leave. We are always hit hard by the flu so I'm not shocked that COVID is spreading. We have had a few kids who just don't show up for school and parents can't/won't get them tested for COVID so numbers are always a little skewed.
Anonymous
Until i see how the numbers break down staff versus students I'd rather not hazard a guess. That said, as pp above mentioned above, its the areas where parents don't have luxury to wfh that are impacted. Not sure how shuttering down 11 schools is exactly equitable.
Anonymous
The governors announcement might make the call for all schools
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's probably no real pattern to these schools because it's such a small number-- better testing? more reporting? actual outbreak among a geographic or demographic group?

But I plotted them out on a map to at least get an idea.

This might work-- I could only add 10 here-- I'm missing Sherwood ES in Olney

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Cannon+Road+Elementary+School/Forest+Knolls+Elementary+School/North+Chevy+Chase+Elementary/Rock+Terrace+School/Rosemont+Elementary+School/Roberto+Clemente+Middle+School/Waters+Landing+Elementary+School/Hallie+Wells+Middle+School/Seneca+Valley+High+School/Monocacy+Elementary+School/@39.1144777,-77.3331571,11z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m62!4m61!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7c543c42bddb1:0xd2a84447424691b0!2m2!1d-76.9943994!2d39.0687916!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7cf65e1371b47:0x78db13e513b53cee!2m2!1d-77.0203899!2d39.0336879!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7c93bdc873e47:0x1f5d39fe3709c810!2m2!1d-77.0730537!2d38.9989746!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7cd70175a43ab:0x2379fe14b940c44d!2m2!1d-77.1600719!2d39.0932441!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7d2b6e52d8ca5:0xd76073f712b51197!2m2!1d-77.1858649!2d39.1248122!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62c5a79e01aff:0x4fd1af6ada87d71e!2m2!1d-77.2476655!2d39.1655849!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62c120435f31b:0x3e08b20b849078b3!2m2!1d-77.2684843!2d39.1889705!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62b0735840c73:0xdef71f9339502584!2m2!1d-77.2399467!2d39.2323039!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62c3f68382f17:0xa6f2ec92ae7c0041!2m2!1d-77.2641458!2d39.1744841!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62611b4aee1ed:0x1ea23f535b2cb1d7!2m2!1d-77.3930382!2d39.2242571!3e0

It looks like:

3 Downcounty
1 Rockville
1 Gaithersburg
1 Olney
5 Germantown and points north

Again, probably means nothing, but almost half the schools are in ~Germantown, which has about 10% of the MoCo population.


I teach in Germantown and not surprised. There is a lot of shared housing up there with multiple families under one roof. Many parents who don't have jobs that allow for sick leave. We are always hit hard by the flu so I'm not shocked that COVID is spreading. We have had a few kids who just don't show up for school and parents can't/won't get them tested for COVID so numbers are always a little skewed.


I don't think you can read in to the numbers like that. I have a child at a Potomac area school and I can tell you half of her friends' families all have covid right now. I don't see any of that information reflected in the official numbers for the school although maybe it's in the spreadsheet that will be shared later today. I don't think it's just a coincidence that DD has friends whose families have the virus now but I think it's just that there's a 25 plus percent positivity rate in the community so it's just everywhere.

I think what you are seeing right now is mostly STAFF numbers and if a school has done a good job of getting the word out about how to report you may be seeing some of that too.

I want schools to remain open but I think their data is wrong and they are making ill informed decisions.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's probably no real pattern to these schools because it's such a small number-- better testing? more reporting? actual outbreak among a geographic or demographic group?

But I plotted them out on a map to at least get an idea.

This might work-- I could only add 10 here-- I'm missing Sherwood ES in Olney

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Cannon+Road+Elementary+School/Forest+Knolls+Elementary+School/North+Chevy+Chase+Elementary/Rock+Terrace+School/Rosemont+Elementary+School/Roberto+Clemente+Middle+School/Waters+Landing+Elementary+School/Hallie+Wells+Middle+School/Seneca+Valley+High+School/Monocacy+Elementary+School/@39.1144777,-77.3331571,11z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m62!4m61!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7c543c42bddb1:0xd2a84447424691b0!2m2!1d-76.9943994!2d39.0687916!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7cf65e1371b47:0x78db13e513b53cee!2m2!1d-77.0203899!2d39.0336879!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7c93bdc873e47:0x1f5d39fe3709c810!2m2!1d-77.0730537!2d38.9989746!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7cd70175a43ab:0x2379fe14b940c44d!2m2!1d-77.1600719!2d39.0932441!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7d2b6e52d8ca5:0xd76073f712b51197!2m2!1d-77.1858649!2d39.1248122!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62c5a79e01aff:0x4fd1af6ada87d71e!2m2!1d-77.2476655!2d39.1655849!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62c120435f31b:0x3e08b20b849078b3!2m2!1d-77.2684843!2d39.1889705!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62b0735840c73:0xdef71f9339502584!2m2!1d-77.2399467!2d39.2323039!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62c3f68382f17:0xa6f2ec92ae7c0041!2m2!1d-77.2641458!2d39.1744841!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62611b4aee1ed:0x1ea23f535b2cb1d7!2m2!1d-77.3930382!2d39.2242571!3e0

It looks like:

3 Downcounty
1 Rockville
1 Gaithersburg
1 Olney
5 Germantown and points north

Again, probably means nothing, but almost half the schools are in ~Germantown, which has about 10% of the MoCo population.


I teach in Germantown and not surprised. There is a lot of shared housing up there with multiple families under one roof. Many parents who don't have jobs that allow for sick leave. We are always hit hard by the flu so I'm not shocked that COVID is spreading. We have had a few kids who just don't show up for school and parents can't/won't get them tested for COVID so numbers are always a little skewed.


I don't think you can read in to the numbers like that. I have a child at a Potomac area school and I can tell you half of her friends' families all have covid right now. I don't see any of that information reflected in the official numbers for the school although maybe it's in the spreadsheet that will be shared later today. I don't think it's just a coincidence that DD has friends whose families have the virus now but I think it's just that there's a 25 plus percent positivity rate in the community so it's just everywhere.

I think what you are seeing right now is mostly STAFF numbers and if a school has done a good job of getting the word out about how to report you may be seeing some of that too.

I want schools to remain open but I think their data is wrong and they are making ill informed decisions.


I could not agree more! I've been saying for ages that MCPS is severely underestimating Covid cases, through no fault of their own. A lot of families are not reporting positive cases, and a lot of families are not testing when they have symptoms, and a lot of Covid-positive families don't even have symptoms!

The positivity rate in the community should mathematically be reflected in schools.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's probably no real pattern to these schools because it's such a small number-- better testing? more reporting? actual outbreak among a geographic or demographic group?

But I plotted them out on a map to at least get an idea.

This might work-- I could only add 10 here-- I'm missing Sherwood ES in Olney

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Cannon+Road+Elementary+School/Forest+Knolls+Elementary+School/North+Chevy+Chase+Elementary/Rock+Terrace+School/Rosemont+Elementary+School/Roberto+Clemente+Middle+School/Waters+Landing+Elementary+School/Hallie+Wells+Middle+School/Seneca+Valley+High+School/Monocacy+Elementary+School/@39.1144777,-77.3331571,11z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m62!4m61!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7c543c42bddb1:0xd2a84447424691b0!2m2!1d-76.9943994!2d39.0687916!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7cf65e1371b47:0x78db13e513b53cee!2m2!1d-77.0203899!2d39.0336879!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7c93bdc873e47:0x1f5d39fe3709c810!2m2!1d-77.0730537!2d38.9989746!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7cd70175a43ab:0x2379fe14b940c44d!2m2!1d-77.1600719!2d39.0932441!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7d2b6e52d8ca5:0xd76073f712b51197!2m2!1d-77.1858649!2d39.1248122!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62c5a79e01aff:0x4fd1af6ada87d71e!2m2!1d-77.2476655!2d39.1655849!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62c120435f31b:0x3e08b20b849078b3!2m2!1d-77.2684843!2d39.1889705!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62b0735840c73:0xdef71f9339502584!2m2!1d-77.2399467!2d39.2323039!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62c3f68382f17:0xa6f2ec92ae7c0041!2m2!1d-77.2641458!2d39.1744841!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62611b4aee1ed:0x1ea23f535b2cb1d7!2m2!1d-77.3930382!2d39.2242571!3e0

It looks like:

3 Downcounty
1 Rockville
1 Gaithersburg
1 Olney
5 Germantown and points north

Again, probably means nothing, but almost half the schools are in ~Germantown, which has about 10% of the MoCo population.


I teach in Germantown and not surprised. There is a lot of shared housing up there with multiple families under one roof. Many parents who don't have jobs that allow for sick leave. We are always hit hard by the flu so I'm not shocked that COVID is spreading. We have had a few kids who just don't show up for school and parents can't/won't get them tested for COVID so numbers are always a little skewed.


If you look at the Maryland covid dashboard and look at school age numbers the concentration of cases are in Silver Spring, Potomac, Bethesda, Chevy Chase - not Germantown.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's probably no real pattern to these schools because it's such a small number-- better testing? more reporting? actual outbreak among a geographic or demographic group?

But I plotted them out on a map to at least get an idea.

This might work-- I could only add 10 here-- I'm missing Sherwood ES in Olney

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Cannon+Road+Elementary+School/Forest+Knolls+Elementary+School/North+Chevy+Chase+Elementary/Rock+Terrace+School/Rosemont+Elementary+School/Roberto+Clemente+Middle+School/Waters+Landing+Elementary+School/Hallie+Wells+Middle+School/Seneca+Valley+High+School/Monocacy+Elementary+School/@39.1144777,-77.3331571,11z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m62!4m61!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7c543c42bddb1:0xd2a84447424691b0!2m2!1d-76.9943994!2d39.0687916!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7cf65e1371b47:0x78db13e513b53cee!2m2!1d-77.0203899!2d39.0336879!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7c93bdc873e47:0x1f5d39fe3709c810!2m2!1d-77.0730537!2d38.9989746!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7cd70175a43ab:0x2379fe14b940c44d!2m2!1d-77.1600719!2d39.0932441!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7d2b6e52d8ca5:0xd76073f712b51197!2m2!1d-77.1858649!2d39.1248122!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62c5a79e01aff:0x4fd1af6ada87d71e!2m2!1d-77.2476655!2d39.1655849!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62c120435f31b:0x3e08b20b849078b3!2m2!1d-77.2684843!2d39.1889705!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62b0735840c73:0xdef71f9339502584!2m2!1d-77.2399467!2d39.2323039!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62c3f68382f17:0xa6f2ec92ae7c0041!2m2!1d-77.2641458!2d39.1744841!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62611b4aee1ed:0x1ea23f535b2cb1d7!2m2!1d-77.3930382!2d39.2242571!3e0

It looks like:

3 Downcounty
1 Rockville
1 Gaithersburg
1 Olney
5 Germantown and points north

Again, probably means nothing, but almost half the schools are in ~Germantown, which has about 10% of the MoCo population.


I teach in Germantown and not surprised. There is a lot of shared housing up there with multiple families under one roof. Many parents who don't have jobs that allow for sick leave. We are always hit hard by the flu so I'm not shocked that COVID is spreading. We have had a few kids who just don't show up for school and parents can't/won't get them tested for COVID so numbers are always a little skewed.


I don't think you can read in to the numbers like that. I have a child at a Potomac area school and I can tell you half of her friends' families all have covid right now. I don't see any of that information reflected in the official numbers for the school although maybe it's in the spreadsheet that will be shared later today. I don't think it's just a coincidence that DD has friends whose families have the virus now but I think it's just that there's a 25 plus percent positivity rate in the community so it's just everywhere.

I think what you are seeing right now is mostly STAFF numbers and if a school has done a good job of getting the word out about how to report you may be seeing some of that too.

I want schools to remain open but I think their data is wrong and they are making ill informed decisions.


25% positivity rate in Montgomery County? That is crazy high. If true, I would support all schools go virtual for two weeks
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's probably no real pattern to these schools because it's such a small number-- better testing? more reporting? actual outbreak among a geographic or demographic group?

But I plotted them out on a map to at least get an idea.

This might work-- I could only add 10 here-- I'm missing Sherwood ES in Olney

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Cannon+Road+Elementary+School/Forest+Knolls+Elementary+School/North+Chevy+Chase+Elementary/Rock+Terrace+School/Rosemont+Elementary+School/Roberto+Clemente+Middle+School/Waters+Landing+Elementary+School/Hallie+Wells+Middle+School/Seneca+Valley+High+School/Monocacy+Elementary+School/@39.1144777,-77.3331571,11z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m62!4m61!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7c543c42bddb1:0xd2a84447424691b0!2m2!1d-76.9943994!2d39.0687916!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7cf65e1371b47:0x78db13e513b53cee!2m2!1d-77.0203899!2d39.0336879!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7c93bdc873e47:0x1f5d39fe3709c810!2m2!1d-77.0730537!2d38.9989746!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7cd70175a43ab:0x2379fe14b940c44d!2m2!1d-77.1600719!2d39.0932441!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7d2b6e52d8ca5:0xd76073f712b51197!2m2!1d-77.1858649!2d39.1248122!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62c5a79e01aff:0x4fd1af6ada87d71e!2m2!1d-77.2476655!2d39.1655849!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62c120435f31b:0x3e08b20b849078b3!2m2!1d-77.2684843!2d39.1889705!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62b0735840c73:0xdef71f9339502584!2m2!1d-77.2399467!2d39.2323039!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62c3f68382f17:0xa6f2ec92ae7c0041!2m2!1d-77.2641458!2d39.1744841!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b62611b4aee1ed:0x1ea23f535b2cb1d7!2m2!1d-77.3930382!2d39.2242571!3e0

It looks like:

3 Downcounty
1 Rockville
1 Gaithersburg
1 Olney
5 Germantown and points north

Again, probably means nothing, but almost half the schools are in ~Germantown, which has about 10% of the MoCo population.


I teach in Germantown and not surprised. There is a lot of shared housing up there with multiple families under one roof. Many parents who don't have jobs that allow for sick leave. We are always hit hard by the flu so I'm not shocked that COVID is spreading. We have had a few kids who just don't show up for school and parents can't/won't get them tested for COVID so numbers are always a little skewed.


If you look at the Maryland covid dashboard and look at school age numbers the concentration of cases are in Silver Spring, Potomac, Bethesda, Chevy Chase - not Germantown.


This is why it's absurd to rely on self-reporting and opting into testing (which currently has about 50% opted in) to make these calls.

Too many variables, the big ones among them:
- inequitable resources (information, tests, language barriers, imperative to work)
- dishonesty (people not testing or not reporting intentionally, lying)
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