Girls 07 Rankings - GA & ECNL Update
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Anonymous
FCV lost to Baltimore Armour, ranked 138th FCV tied: Sporting Delaware, ranked 508th Ukranian Nationals, ranked 62nd McLean lost to Loudoun, ranked 72nd |
Anonymous
| But where's VA Revolution? They haven't been able to buy their way into ECNL or GA yet?!? |
Anonymous
It might be surprising, but for the purposes of https://youthsoccerrankings.us, the rankings of your opponents does not matter! If a team performs better in a game than the algorithm predicts, it will help the team's ranking. Perform worse and it will hurt the ranking. So for FCV (ranked #35 with score of 36.28) vs Sporting Delaware (ranked #508 with score of 32.63), the ranking score says FCV should win by about 3.5 goals (36.28 - 32.63). If they win by 7 it will help the ranking. If they only win by 2 then FCV's ranking will drop. This is a well established way to rank things like chess and tennis players and sports teams. Especially useful when teams don't always play against each other in round robin format in the same league. I have personally found YSR's team scores to be a very good predictor of how competitive a game will be. If the team scores are within a point or two, most of the time the game is competitive. Of course, it's impossible to have a perfect predictor because the rosters can change a lot from season to season and a missing/injured player or two can make a huge difference. But this is a good, objective way to rank teams. It's just math. It's certainly better than a subjective opinion based on an anecdotal game here or there. |
Anonymous
And this is why the point of "who do they play" was stated. FCV rarely plays anyone ranked above themselves and much of their competition is well below their rank. They literally have to fly to California just to play teams similarly ranked as themselves. How fun. |
Anonymous
Why does it matter if opponents are ranked way below? As long as you are beating them by more than the expected amount then your ranking will be high. This isn't a thread on how GA is worse than ECNL. It's about rankings and whether they are transferable across GA and ECNL, which I'm saying they are even when teams play different levels of competition |
Anonymous
What matters is having quality competition week in and week out. If just to maintain your ranking or to move up you need to win your league games by 4 goals or more then what are you doing? How do you know if your team is actually good or not? Even with going out to California your team will be the highest ranked team in your bracket. FCV 35th Florida United 43rd Houston Dynamo Dash 42nd South Shore Select 82nd You are flying across the country to still play teams ranked lower, and no offense, but FCV is "only" ranked 35th. You're supposed to be a "top team" yet you're not even a top 20 team Nationally and you aren't even playing a top 20 team after flying across the country to play in the Top level of your leagues Champions league Bracket. There are 19 or so GA teams in the top 100 nationally, five of which are ranked above you. Frankly, considering how shallow GA is to not even be a top 5 team within the league is sad. But hey, you can certainly beat up on PA Classics 352, Metro 434, and Skyline 429. Or you could also save yourself some money and play Herndon 343, Virginia Valor 367, FC Frederick 380, Oni Premier Magic 298. |
Anonymous
Everything you just said is true and I agree. So what is your point? I was just pointing out how the rankings work and taking issue with those who question them because a team plays lower ranked teams. All of the teams in this area listed above, all ranked in the top 100, are only separated by just over 1 goal, so it's mostly splitting hairs over which is the "better" team. You seem to really want to argue about ECNL vs GA but I don't really care about leagues or why someone might choose one over the other. |
Anonymous
| Also, FCV is ranked #1. When you’re ranked #1, every opponent is lower ranked than you. |
Anonymous
Where is FCV ranked #1? And if you say “GotSoccer” you are a fool. |
Anonymous
There is no splitting hairs when most of your league competition is ranked 200-500. When you have to go to California to find a competitive game it’s a problem. |
Anonymous
You got trolled. Careful accusing others of being fools, when you’re getting fooled. |
Anonymous
| After this year, I don’t think the 07 ECNL and GA will ever mix. Isn’t it the end of playing tournaments and now league and ECNL showcases? |
Anonymous
There is still Jeff Cup which teams in both leagues will still participate in but over time GA teams will be relegated to lower brackets in Jeff Cup and other tourneys as well. |
Anonymous
Yes, less and less tournaments in favor of league showcases is the immediate future. It's fine. Same objective, different methods. Everything evolves. Maybe there will be more leagues or less leagues at some point in the future. |
Anonymous
In Loudoun? |