13y DD thinks sexting is not a big deal

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Says no one she knows got caught or leaked
Is there a site online with real cases?

Does she know 13 year old boys? Does she think they are mature and trustworthy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess you should figure out how to explain to her why sex as a teen is okay because consent and condoms, but texting the same person about that sex is really bad and should destroy your life over it.

You’re not wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes sexting has serious consequences in DMV area . I know a young man who will be a registered sex offender for life due to sexting. Colleges can revoke admissions offers over it and more serious legal consequences are possible.

https://www.maronicklaw.com/blog/2019/09/maryland-court-rules-that-teen-involved-in-sexting-is-a-child-pornographer/
Maryland Court Rules that Teen Involved in Sexting is a Child Pornographer
On Behalf of Maronick Law LLC | Sep 12, 2019 | child pornography |

Maryland’s top court has held that a teen who sent a video of herself performing a sex act on another teen to two of her friends distributed child pornography and displayed obscene content to other minors.
The teen, called S.K. by the court, attended a Charles County high school. The 16-year-old female had a group chat on her cellphone for text messages with two friends. S.K. sent a one-minute video of herself performing a sex act on a young man to her group chat friends using her cellphone. After a falling out among the trio, the video was distributed to other students at the school and shared with the school resource officer.


Five Fairfax County students are facing nine child porn charges and one charge for unlawful filming tied to a sexting case in which the students traded naked pictures of female students.
https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-co-va-child-porn-sexting-snapchat


https://medvinlaw.com/sexting-laws-virginia-criminal-defense-attorney-fairfax-alexandria-arlington-va/
Crack down in NOVA

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/cybersafety/sexting.aspx
SEXTING policy MCPS
Sexting is the act of sending sexually explicit photographs or sexual text messages electronically which are primarily transmitted between cell phones.
Teens are increasingly engaging in sexting without adequately understanding its consequences. The taking and/or sending of sexually explicit photographs electronically can be considered a crime.
There have been many articles in the news about the dire consequences of teens sexting each other including suicides and criminal charges.
In addition to taking and posting these photos, an alarming number of teens, 39%, say they’ve sent sexually suggestive text messages. This, in spite of the fact that 73% "said they knew sending sexually suggestive content can have serious negative consequences."
Technically speaking, activity related to taking provocative photos can be considered to be the manufacturing and distribution of child pornography if it contains sexual conduct or is intended for the purpose of sexual arousal. While the teens taking these pictures of themselves may only intend for it to be seen by their friend, it is often distributed to others with unintended consequences.
CONTACT
MONTGOMERY COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS
Call: 240-740-3000 | Spanish Hotline: [phone]
E-mail: [e-mail]


https://rockvillerampage.com/4276/news/sexting-teens-face-harsh-consequences-of-explicit-messaging/
Teenagers under 16 in Maryland who simply possess a sexually explicit image or video of another teen on their phones could face dire consequences: up to five years in prison and/or a fine of $2,500.
Sexting is the act of sending sexually explicit messages, photos or videos using a phone. In a study released by the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, one in five teenagers sexts, 80% of whom are under 18.
It is illegal in Maryland to photograph or film a minor engaged in sexual conduct, to distribute images or videos of a minor engaging in sexual conduct or to use a computer to publish information for the purpose of soliciting sexual conduct of a minor.

http://www.thechurchillobserver.com/features/2011/10/27/sexting-leads-to-consequences-outside-the-classroom/
Sexting has become an increasingly large problem in the past few years, ranging from the 2010 scandal at Pyle Middle School to even a few minor cases at CHS, according to some students.According to assistant principal John Taylor, it is hard to keep statistics on the number of students involved in sexting since most cases occur outside of school.
 
“It’s not technically a school infraction, though we end up dealing with consequences in school,” Taylor said.
 Not only are the effects of sexting harmful to one’s reputation, but with the police cracking down on the enforcement of child pornography laws, the penalties can be severe. According to federal law, the United States defines child pornography as “the visual depiction of minor children under the age of 18 engaging in sexually explicit conduct.” Even a nude picture of a girlfriend or boyfriend can be considered child pornography.
It only takes a few clicks of a button to rack up numerous counts of child pornography production, possession and distribution.

Predicting now that many of theses cases will be overturned.

You predict that based on... What? What recent legal decisions or specific trends in the courts make you think many of these will be overturned?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP do you pay for her phone?

If so suspend the service til she understands. She is not mature enough to own a phone.

Having a phone is a responsibility she is choosing to ignore something that is real and has real potential to be dangerous.

Until she grows up no more phone service.

I am an easy-going parent, however, this is a no-go in my house.

Best advice yet in this convo

[Anonymous]

13 seems early for this. My daughter goes to an all girls school not in DC. This is not even on her radar. She is popular and all that. It’s not a thing.

What type of environment is this that this is normalized behavior? Seems young to me. Maybe I am naive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes sexting has serious consequences in DMV area . I know a young man who will be a registered sex offender for life due to sexting. Colleges can revoke admissions offers over it and more serious legal consequences are possible.

https://www.maronicklaw.com/blog/2019/09/maryland-court-rules-that-teen-involved-in-sexting-is-a-child-pornographer/
Maryland Court Rules that Teen Involved in Sexting is a Child Pornographer
On Behalf of Maronick Law LLC | Sep 12, 2019 | child pornography |

Maryland’s top court has held that a teen who sent a video of herself performing a sex act on another teen to two of her friends distributed child pornography and displayed obscene content to other minors.
The teen, called S.K. by the court, attended a Charles County high school. The 16-year-old female had a group chat on her cellphone for text messages with two friends. S.K. sent a one-minute video of herself performing a sex act on a young man to her group chat friends using her cellphone. After a falling out among the trio, the video was distributed to other students at the school and shared with the school resource officer.


Five Fairfax County students are facing nine child porn charges and one charge for unlawful filming tied to a sexting case in which the students traded naked pictures of female students.
https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-co-va-child-porn-sexting-snapchat


https://medvinlaw.com/sexting-laws-virginia-criminal-defense-attorney-fairfax-alexandria-arlington-va/
Crack down in NOVA

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/cybersafety/sexting.aspx
SEXTING policy MCPS
Sexting is the act of sending sexually explicit photographs or sexual text messages electronically which are primarily transmitted between cell phones.
Teens are increasingly engaging in sexting without adequately understanding its consequences. The taking and/or sending of sexually explicit photographs electronically can be considered a crime.
There have been many articles in the news about the dire consequences of teens sexting each other including suicides and criminal charges.
In addition to taking and posting these photos, an alarming number of teens, 39%, say they’ve sent sexually suggestive text messages. This, in spite of the fact that 73% "said they knew sending sexually suggestive content can have serious negative consequences."
Technically speaking, activity related to taking provocative photos can be considered to be the manufacturing and distribution of child pornography if it contains sexual conduct or is intended for the purpose of sexual arousal. While the teens taking these pictures of themselves may only intend for it to be seen by their friend, it is often distributed to others with unintended consequences.
CONTACT
MONTGOMERY COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS
Call: 240-740-3000 | Spanish Hotline: [phone]
E-mail: [e-mail]


https://rockvillerampage.com/4276/news/sexting-teens-face-harsh-consequences-of-explicit-messaging/
Teenagers under 16 in Maryland who simply possess a sexually explicit image or video of another teen on their phones could face dire consequences: up to five years in prison and/or a fine of $2,500.
Sexting is the act of sending sexually explicit messages, photos or videos using a phone. In a study released by the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, one in five teenagers sexts, 80% of whom are under 18.
It is illegal in Maryland to photograph or film a minor engaged in sexual conduct, to distribute images or videos of a minor engaging in sexual conduct or to use a computer to publish information for the purpose of soliciting sexual conduct of a minor.

http://www.thechurchillobserver.com/features/2011/10/27/sexting-leads-to-consequences-outside-the-classroom/
Sexting has become an increasingly large problem in the past few years, ranging from the 2010 scandal at Pyle Middle School to even a few minor cases at CHS, according to some students.According to assistant principal John Taylor, it is hard to keep statistics on the number of students involved in sexting since most cases occur outside of school.
 
“It’s not technically a school infraction, though we end up dealing with consequences in school,” Taylor said.
 Not only are the effects of sexting harmful to one’s reputation, but with the police cracking down on the enforcement of child pornography laws, the penalties can be severe. According to federal law, the United States defines child pornography as “the visual depiction of minor children under the age of 18 engaging in sexually explicit conduct.” Even a nude picture of a girlfriend or boyfriend can be considered child pornography.
It only takes a few clicks of a button to rack up numerous counts of child pornography production, possession and distribution.

Predicting now that many of theses cases will be overturned.

You predict that based on... What? What recent legal decisions or specific trends in the courts make you think many of these will be overturned?

+ 1

No evidence these cases are going away. If anything, local authorities talk like they want to send messages to teens to stop engaging in child Pornography. The consequences are steep, if caught or if they become victims of revenge porn after they share nudes and later break up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Says no one she knows got caught or leaked
Is there a site online with real cases?

Does she know 13 year old boys? Does she think they are mature and trustworthy?

Not PP but acquaintances of 13 yo DD routinely send nudes to people they are attracted to and doctor images of people they are bullying to
Look degrading. Many boys send the girls unsolicited dick pics. Some of the worst girl offenders have very religious/ conservative parents who have no idea what their DC are up to online. It is horrible. I agree that 13 is way too young but this is where wide spread access at young ages has brought us.

I check my DDs phone photos regularly and talk often about negative consequences of sending nudes or being vulgar online. I don’t think it is possible to insulate from it entirely but it is important to talk about, Caution and make sure DC are not engaging in it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Says no one she knows got caught or leaked
Is there a site online with real cases?

Does she know 13 year old boys? Does she think they are mature and trustworthy?

Not PP but acquaintances of 13 yo DD routinely send nudes to people they are attracted to and doctor images of people they are bullying to
Look degrading. Many boys send the girls unsolicited dick pics. Some of the worst girl offenders have very religious/ conservative parents who have no idea what their DC are up to online. It is horrible. I agree that 13 is way too young but this is where wide spread access at young ages has brought us.

I check my DDs phone photos regularly and talk often about negative consequences of sending nudes or being vulgar online. I don’t think it is possible to insulate from it entirely but it is important to talk about, Caution and make sure DC are not engaging in it.

At thirteen?! good lord. Where does your DD know these kids from?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess you should figure out how to explain to her why sex as a teen is okay because consent and condoms, but texting the same person about that sex is really bad and should destroy your life over it.

I would start with explaining it isn’t ok for a 13 yr old to be having sex, or sexting

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Says no one she knows got caught or leaked
Is there a site online with real cases?

Does she know 13 year old boys? Does she think they are mature and trustworthy?

Not PP but acquaintances of 13 yo DD routinely send nudes to people they are attracted to and doctor images of people they are bullying to
Look degrading. Many boys send the girls unsolicited dick pics. Some of the worst girl offenders have very religious/ conservative parents who have no idea what their DC are up to online. It is horrible. I agree that 13 is way too young but this is where wide spread access at young ages has brought us.

I check my DDs phone photos regularly and talk often about negative consequences of sending nudes or being vulgar online. I don’t think it is possible to insulate from it entirely but it is important to talk about, Caution and make sure DC are not engaging in it.

At thirteen?! good lord. Where does your DD know these kids from?

School but not good friends

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Says no one she knows got caught or leaked
Is there a site online with real cases?

Does she know 13 year old boys? Does she think they are mature and trustworthy?

Not PP but acquaintances of 13 yo DD routinely send nudes to people they are attracted to and doctor images of people they are bullying to
Look degrading. Many boys send the girls unsolicited dick pics. Some of the worst girl offenders have very religious/ conservative parents who have no idea what their DC are up to online. It is horrible. I agree that 13 is way too young but this is where wide spread access at young ages has brought us.

I check my DDs phone photos regularly and talk often about negative consequences of sending nudes or being vulgar online. I don’t think it is possible to insulate from it entirely but it is important to talk about, Caution and make sure DC are not engaging in it.

At thirteen?! good lord. Where does your DD know these kids from?

School but not good friends

Please tell those parents or a guidance counselor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Literally all teen sexting involving explicit photographs is federal production of child pornography which carries a mandatory minimum sentence of 15 years. Federal prosecutors typically don’t exercise their discretion to lock up horny teens, but there is no legal barrier to them doing so. I’m a criminal defense lawyer. I wish this weren’t true but it is.

Possession of marijuana is a federal offense in all 50 states, and in D.C. Federal law preempts all state law. These are facts.

In practice, things are different.

OP: your teen is half right: none of her friends has been caught, and most teen sexters won’t get caught.

What she is missing are all the possible consequences - especially for boys - if they are caught. Yes, sex offender status, college denials, possibly all future employment they might want, etc. And it’s important to remind teens:

- that image may be around on the internet for the entire rest of their lives.

Are these risks your teen really wants to take? Or is it better to say no to teen sexting?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Says no one she knows got caught or leaked
Is there a site online with real cases?

Does she know 13 year old boys? Does she think they are mature and trustworthy?

Not PP but acquaintances of 13 yo DD routinely send nudes to people they are attracted to and doctor images of people they are bullying to
Look degrading. Many boys send the girls unsolicited dick pics. Some of the worst girl offenders have very religious/ conservative parents who have no idea what their DC are up to online. It is horrible. I agree that 13 is way too young but this is where wide spread access at young ages has brought us.

I check my DDs phone photos regularly and talk often about negative consequences of sending nudes or being vulgar online. I don’t think it is possible to insulate from it entirely but it is important to talk about, Caution and make sure DC are not engaging in it.

At thirteen?! good lord. Where does your DD know these kids from?

School but not good friends

Please tell those parents or a guidance counselor.

Does every 13 year-old actually need an unlocked, un-monitored smart phone?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Says no one she knows got caught or leaked
Is there a site online with real cases?

Does she know 13 year old boys? Does she think they are mature and trustworthy?

Not PP but acquaintances of 13 yo DD routinely send nudes to people they are attracted to and doctor images of people they are bullying to
Look degrading. Many boys send the girls unsolicited dick pics. Some of the worst girl offenders have very religious/ conservative parents who have no idea what their DC are up to online. It is horrible. I agree that 13 is way too young but this is where wide spread access at young ages has brought us.

I check my DDs phone photos regularly and talk often about negative consequences of sending nudes or being vulgar online. I don’t think it is possible to insulate from it entirely but it is important to talk about, Caution and make sure DC are not engaging in it.

At thirteen?! good lord. Where does your DD know these kids from?

School but not good friends

Please tell those parents or a guidance counselor.

Does every 13 year-old actually need an unlocked, un-monitored smart phone?

Pandemic escalated a lot of bad choices in online activities … but agree parents need to monitor what their kids are doing online …

Also agree that parents need to emphasize the potentially devastating consequences of sexting even if a majority of them are not caught …

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She can think what she wants but she needs to do what you say. I can’t see proving a point to a child. Who is the adult?

+1

I have taken the opposite approach to parenting. We explain why or why not so our kid can figure out right from wrong as he matures. Maybe it just works for us because he was born with a natural sense of wanting to do the right thing. But you can do both - make it a rule and explain why it’s a rule. Personally I would go with the potential for the other person to widely share what was texted and potential years of embarrassment.