REV Soccer Only CHAT, No drama please

[Anonymous]

Thank you. It is extremely validating to hear that we are not the only ones who recognize this. We are, sadly now a part of the “out crowd”. Disgraceful that the administration is at best allowing this type of thing to flourish. Horrific they are actively participating in it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like the TD and president are easily manipulated.

When a parent becomes an "expert at playing politics," they stop being a supporter and start acting like a lobbyist. This shift transforms a game meant for kids into a high-stakes social chess match where the board is the sideline and the pieces are the players.
"Playing politics" usually involves a few specific, tactics
The Whisper Campaign: Planting seeds of doubt about a coach’s strategy or another player's performance to elevate their own child's standing.
Gatekeeping: Controlling the flow of information among other parents to create an "in-crowd" and an "out-crowd."
When backroom maneuvering takes center stage, the actual team and club suffers in major ways. When playing time or positions are influenced by a parent’s relationship with the coach, TD and President, the kids notice. If a player works twice as hard but loses their spot to the "connected" kid, their drive vanishes. Trust is the currency of a team; politics devalues it. Politics are contagious. Once one parent starts "maneuvering," others feel they must do the same just to keep their child on a level playing field. This creates a "cold war" atmosphere where parents are suspicious of one another rather than cheering for the whole squad.

Ultimately, the club’s reputation takes a hit. High-quality coaches and talented players will eventually leave for "cleaner" programs where the drama is kept to a minimum. You end up with a club that isn't known for its trophies or its player development, but for its sideline drama. The kids are almost always aware of the tension. When parents play politics, they teach their children that success isn't earned through sweat and skill, but through who you know and how well you can manipulate the system.

This is exactly our experience with the girls side. My DD’s team could be so much better than they actually are. Most clubs deal with this at some level, but at VRSC it is extreme. And the team suffers because the kids that are favored are not held accountable for effort or performance; and laugh and joke around all practice because they don’t need to compete within the team. And they aren’t really that talented to begin with - just average good players.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thank you. It is extremely validating to hear that we are not the only ones who recognize this. We are, sadly now a part of the “out crowd”. Disgraceful that the administration is at best allowing this type of thing to flourish. Horrific they are actively participating in it.

If coaches allow it (BP) it will continue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like the TD and president are easily manipulated.

When a parent becomes an "expert at playing politics," they stop being a supporter and start acting like a lobbyist. This shift transforms a game meant for kids into a high-stakes social chess match where the board is the sideline and the pieces are the players.
"Playing politics" usually involves a few specific, tactics
The Whisper Campaign: Planting seeds of doubt about a coach’s strategy or another player's performance to elevate their own child's standing.
Gatekeeping: Controlling the flow of information among other parents to create an "in-crowd" and an "out-crowd."
When backroom maneuvering takes center stage, the actual team and club suffers in major ways. When playing time or positions are influenced by a parent’s relationship with the coach, TD and President, the kids notice. If a player works twice as hard but loses their spot to the "connected" kid, their drive vanishes. Trust is the currency of a team; politics devalues it. Politics are contagious. Once one parent starts "maneuvering," others feel they must do the same just to keep their child on a level playing field. This creates a "cold war" atmosphere where parents are suspicious of one another rather than cheering for the whole squad.

Ultimately, the club’s reputation takes a hit. High-quality coaches and talented players will eventually leave for "cleaner" programs where the drama is kept to a minimum. You end up with a club that isn't known for its trophies or its player development, but for its sideline drama. The kids are almost always aware of the tension. When parents play politics, they teach their children that success isn't earned through sweat and skill, but through who you know and how well you can manipulate the system.

This is exactly our experience with the girls side. My DD’s team could be so much better than they actually are. Most clubs deal with this at some level, but at VRSC it is extreme. And the team suffers because the kids that are favored are not held accountable for effort or performance; and laugh and joke around all practice because they don’t need to compete within the team. And they aren’t really that talented to begin with - just average good players.

This is exactly our experience with the boys side as well.

[Anonymous]

Sometimes, parents look the other way so long as their kids are not treated unfairly. This destroys team cohesion, development, and success. Players who have options leave to continue developing elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like the TD and president are easily manipulated.

When a parent becomes an "expert at playing politics," they stop being a supporter and start acting like a lobbyist. This shift transforms a game meant for kids into a high-stakes social chess match where the board is the sideline and the pieces are the players.
"Playing politics" usually involves a few specific, tactics
The Whisper Campaign: Planting seeds of doubt about a coach’s strategy or another player's performance to elevate their own child's standing.
Gatekeeping: Controlling the flow of information among other parents to create an "in-crowd" and an "out-crowd."
When backroom maneuvering takes center stage, the actual team and club suffers in major ways. When playing time or positions are influenced by a parent’s relationship with the coach, TD and President, the kids notice. If a player works twice as hard but loses their spot to the "connected" kid, their drive vanishes. Trust is the currency of a team; politics devalues it. Politics are contagious. Once one parent starts "maneuvering," others feel they must do the same just to keep their child on a level playing field. This creates a "cold war" atmosphere where parents are suspicious of one another rather than cheering for the whole squad.

Ultimately, the club’s reputation takes a hit. High-quality coaches and talented players will eventually leave for "cleaner" programs where the drama is kept to a minimum. You end up with a club that isn't known for its trophies or its player development, but for its sideline drama. The kids are almost always aware of the tension. When parents play politics, they teach their children that success isn't earned through sweat and skill, but through who you know and how well you can manipulate the system.

This is exactly our experience with the girls side. My DD’s team could be so much better than they actually are. Most clubs deal with this at some level, but at VRSC it is extreme. And the team suffers because the kids that are favored are not held accountable for effort or performance; and laugh and joke around all practice because they don’t need to compete within the team. And they aren’t really that talented to begin with - just average good players.

My dd must be on your team. We experience the same.

[Anonymous]

Revolution’s motto changed to
One club, One home, One family
One favor, One payment, One invoice

[Anonymous]

It’s a wash on the girls side. Next year all the best talent will shift to the local club that gets champions league or ECNL teams. ECNL is the clear winner when it comes to girls college d1 recruitment.

[Anonymous]

The fear mongering is real here. Guessing some of you haven’t been around much. What was described happens at almost every high league level Club or team. Yes, at an extreme level. Just ask anyone who was with Union during Nader’s tenure. You think those coaches just left those ways behind them when they moved to Bethesda? Before BP came to VDA, this was also a big problem. Time will tell there. Arlington was known more than anybody a few years ago for this type of thing. Love how NVA parents look away knowing what goes on there…

I do agree on one thing. Clubs that allow this kind of thing have teams that suffer from these kind of issues. But yeah, sorry, VRSC not really any different.

The best Clubs are usually the ones that do not allow parent/coach communication and have some type of Club representative as an in between. No parent manager. At the same time, even with this setup, if the coach has a bad read of players, the team will suffer anyway.

Set real expectations. I like to think happy mediums. No club around here is exceptional. Even VDA is having issues at younger age groups.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is clear that VRSC now favors its boys program and is following other clubs in discriminating against the girls program.

Regarding the boys' program, there are rumors circulating within the boys' program, suggesting that players whose parents are closely connected to the Technical Director and President receive "special access." This privileged treatment reportedly includes advantages like additional training with older teams, guest player opportunities, and approval to play in older age groups. Furthermore, it is rumored that these close relationships facilitate direct, unregulated communication, potentially allowing parents to sway significant decisions impacting the team or the club as a whole.

Same within the girls' program. Moms text coaches directly, asking to play them on different positions or complaining that their daughter didn't play the whole game. It is sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Management/Director’s ego is why all the coaches are leaving. The top dogs are threatened by anyone with credentials just as good or better than theirs. To the point of inflating their own.

The top guy’s posted CV on their website. He worked at all those top English Clubs that generate millions and millions of dollars. Leaves England? He takes a job as coach in little old Leesburg Virginia. Three years later, he becomes the President? Give me a break. Did anyone check the references:

License: UEFA B & FA Youth Award
Years in Coaching: 14
Playing Experience: Semi Professional in the UK
Coaching Highlights
Professional coach and scout in England at Chelsea FC, Southampton FC, Crystal Palace FC, Cambridge United FC, Brighton & Hove Albion FC, Ebbsfleet United, and Woking FC.
Produced players that have played internationally and in the Premier League and Football League.
Fun Facts: Qualified as a Goalkeeper Coach and a Referee. Has a Bachelors Degree in Football Studies with Business and worked at the London 2012 Games with the football teams that participated.

Also has an MBA and moved to NoVA in Feb 2018 where he "started the North America operations from scratch and built it into a profitable business for our parent company"... has WAY more experience than just what you see in soccer/football. He's a hell of a lot smarter than most of them up there and is very professional. THIS is why he was named President of LU. He's not coaching the team... he oversees all sporting, front office, and stadium operations, which is what a professional would be hired to do. Love having KS around at Revolution, definitely a voice I can trust there.

Sounds good. Thank you Karl

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s one player BP and cc cut from fcv who now plays at VT.

Another they thought was great for years who got cut right away from Penn state because she didn’t pass their physical tests.

Some parents are just gaming the system and are good at it.

BP and even CC a bit back in the day would promote a few select players relentlessly.. youth training camps etc. They barely played in college and now are "marketing assistants".

CC still trying hard to promote bad players. The mom's must be donating a lot

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like the TD and president are easily manipulated.

When a parent becomes an "expert at playing politics," they stop being a supporter and start acting like a lobbyist. This shift transforms a game meant for kids into a high-stakes social chess match where the board is the sideline and the pieces are the players.
"Playing politics" usually involves a few specific, tactics
The Whisper Campaign: Planting seeds of doubt about a coach’s strategy or another player's performance to elevate their own child's standing.
Gatekeeping: Controlling the flow of information among other parents to create an "in-crowd" and an "out-crowd."
When backroom maneuvering takes center stage, the actual team and club suffers in major ways. When playing time or positions are influenced by a parent’s relationship with the coach, TD and President, the kids notice. If a player works twice as hard but loses their spot to the "connected" kid, their drive vanishes. Trust is the currency of a team; politics devalues it. Politics are contagious. Once one parent starts "maneuvering," others feel they must do the same just to keep their child on a level playing field. This creates a "cold war" atmosphere where parents are suspicious of one another rather than cheering for the whole squad.

Ultimately, the club’s reputation takes a hit. High-quality coaches and talented players will eventually leave for "cleaner" programs where the drama is kept to a minimum. You end up with a club that isn't known for its trophies or its player development, but for its sideline drama. The kids are almost always aware of the tension. When parents play politics, they teach their children that success isn't earned through sweat and skill, but through who you know and how well you can manipulate the system.

Wow, you are on point. We have 4 moms that act like this in our team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like the TD and president are easily manipulated.

When a parent becomes an "expert at playing politics," they stop being a supporter and start acting like a lobbyist. This shift transforms a game meant for kids into a high-stakes social chess match where the board is the sideline and the pieces are the players.
"Playing politics" usually involves a few specific, tactics
The Whisper Campaign: Planting seeds of doubt about a coach’s strategy or another player's performance to elevate their own child's standing.
Gatekeeping: Controlling the flow of information among other parents to create an "in-crowd" and an "out-crowd."
When backroom maneuvering takes center stage, the actual team and club suffers in major ways. When playing time or positions are influenced by a parent’s relationship with the coach, TD and President, the kids notice. If a player works twice as hard but loses their spot to the "connected" kid, their drive vanishes. Trust is the currency of a team; politics devalues it. Politics are contagious. Once one parent starts "maneuvering," others feel they must do the same just to keep their child on a level playing field. This creates a "cold war" atmosphere where parents are suspicious of one another rather than cheering for the whole squad.

Ultimately, the club’s reputation takes a hit. High-quality coaches and talented players will eventually leave for "cleaner" programs where the drama is kept to a minimum. You end up with a club that isn't known for its trophies or its player development, but for its sideline drama. The kids are almost always aware of the tension. When parents play politics, they teach their children that success isn't earned through sweat and skill, but through who you know and how well you can manipulate the system.

Wow! This is exactly the description of Christian Cziommer’s Girls Academy teams. You hit the nail on the head. Parents orchestrate a weaker kid to an advantageous position despite lack of actual ability and better players are discouraged from using their skill. It’s really disgusting.

Holy Smokes!! This sounds just like our team! There are 3 players that start every game that shouldn't even be on the team and a 4th one thats untouchable even when she is disrespectful to the coach. Needless today they are all from FCV, former CC and ED players.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like the TD and president are easily manipulated.

When a parent becomes an "expert at playing politics," they stop being a supporter and start acting like a lobbyist. This shift transforms a game meant for kids into a high-stakes social chess match where the board is the sideline and the pieces are the players.
"Playing politics" usually involves a few specific, tactics
The Whisper Campaign: Planting seeds of doubt about a coach’s strategy or another player's performance to elevate their own child's standing.
Gatekeeping: Controlling the flow of information among other parents to create an "in-crowd" and an "out-crowd."
When backroom maneuvering takes center stage, the actual team and club suffers in major ways. When playing time or positions are influenced by a parent’s relationship with the coach, TD and President, the kids notice. If a player works twice as hard but loses their spot to the "connected" kid, their drive vanishes. Trust is the currency of a team; politics devalues it. Politics are contagious. Once one parent starts "maneuvering," others feel they must do the same just to keep their child on a level playing field. This creates a "cold war" atmosphere where parents are suspicious of one another rather than cheering for the whole squad.

Ultimately, the club’s reputation takes a hit. High-quality coaches and talented players will eventually leave for "cleaner" programs where the drama is kept to a minimum. You end up with a club that isn't known for its trophies or its player development, but for its sideline drama. The kids are almost always aware of the tension. When parents play politics, they teach their children that success isn't earned through sweat and skill, but through who you know and how well you can manipulate the system.

This is exactly our experience with the girls side. My DD’s team could be so much better than they actually are. Most clubs deal with this at some level, but at VRSC it is extreme. And the team suffers because the kids that are favored are not held accountable for effort or performance; and laugh and joke around all practice because they don’t need to compete within the team. And they aren’t really that talented to begin with - just average good players.

+1 and I am sure that we are on the same team. LOL