Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One can only hope that debris field is the Titan. They would've died quickly and we can put this story to bed.

You'll probably end up being right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One can only hope that debris field is the Titan. They would've died quickly and we can put this story to bed.

You'll probably end up being right.

If I were in that situation, i would want the quickest death possible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are we paying for this??????????????????

we shouldn't be helping of paying for this..

yes, we should because it's the right thing to do. willing to bet if that was your family, you might see things differently

I think it’s only the right thing to do up until there is no way there could be any survivors, particularly given that it may imploded and there aren’t remains to return to the family.

I get this, but at the same time, at this point they've all mobilized such international effort and spent that money, let them tie it up. If they're still there in a few weeks that's ridiculous, but for now let all of those on the rescue/recovery get that experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One can only hope that debris field is the Titan. They would've died quickly and we can put this story to bed.

+1

[Anonymous]

It's too bad they couldn't get the ROVs there sooner to find them alive and bring them up through bringing them up sounded risky as well since it would involve depressurization and if the thing wasn't already working properly, maybe they would not have survived the ascent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One can only hope that debris field is the Titan. They would've died quickly and we can put this story to bed.

You'll probably end up being right.

If I were in that situation, i would want the quickest death possible.

It sounds nuts to people but a quick death where you didn’t even know it was going to happen is just so much better than the alternative. Because rescue was just never going to happen on time at these depths in that “machine”.

[Anonymous]

From CNN just now:

"Company confirms its vehicle found debris field in Titanic submersible search area
From CNN’s Paul P. Murphy

A spokesperson for Pelagic Research Services confirmed to CNN that its remote operated vehicle (ROV), which was the first to conduct a search for the missing OceanGate sub on the sea floor, found the debris field.

The US Coast Guard announced earlier today that a debris field had been found in the search area.

Pelagic Research Services describes itself on its website as “an ocean services company that brings expedition planning, execution and state of the art sub-sea research tools to the ocean community on a global basis."


From the front page of the Pelagic Research Services website that I just went to:

"PRS want to express our full gratitude for the incredible, coordinated rescue response of everyone involved in this search and rescue mission. Our focus right now is on the families of those on the Titan and for their tragic loss."

"Tragic loss" is an interesting choice of words. Probably unintentional (though confusing).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's too bad they couldn't get the ROVs there sooner to find them alive and bring them up through bringing them up sounded risky as well since it would involve depressurization and if the thing wasn't already working properly, maybe they would not have survived the ascent.

The existence of a debris field suggests there hasn't been anything to recover since Sunday, when the thing went offline.

[Anonymous]

^ seems to assume implosion

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
From CNN just now:

"Company confirms its vehicle found debris field in Titanic submersible search area
From CNN’s Paul P. Murphy

A spokesperson for Pelagic Research Services confirmed to CNN that its remote operated vehicle (ROV), which was the first to conduct a search for the missing OceanGate sub on the sea floor, found the debris field.

The US Coast Guard announced earlier today that a debris field had been found in the search area.

Pelagic Research Services describes itself on its website as “an ocean services company that brings expedition planning, execution and state of the art sub-sea research tools to the ocean community on a global basis."


From the front page of the Pelagic Research Services website that I just went to:

"PRS want to express our full gratitude for the incredible, coordinated rescue response of everyone involved in this search and rescue mission. Our focus right now is on the families of those on the Titan and for their tragic loss."

"Tragic loss" is an interesting choice of words. Probably unintentional (though confusing).

Why is it an interesting choice of words? They are clearly dead. People don’t actually still think there’s a chance that they are bobbing around waiting to be unsealed, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's too bad they couldn't get the ROVs there sooner to find them alive and bring them up through bringing them up sounded risky as well since it would involve depressurization and if the thing wasn't already working properly, maybe they would not have survived the ascent.

if reports are true and there was something defective/leak, they never had a chance. The pressure in itself would cause it to implode ...there's nothing to "find"

The Titan would probably have reached a depth of around 3,500 meters by the time communication was lost, meaning the pressure would be equal to 345 times Earth's atmosphere. If the pressure vessel has failed catastrophically, it’s like a small bomb going off.

The 3PM conference means that think they have some new information, maybe

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Damn, they really did implode. Those poor people. God rest their souls.

Worse to be starving and thirsty and losing one's mind in a freezing, foul-smelling coffin waiting to be suffocated. It would be merciful to die quickly 1 1/2 hours into this ill-fated journey.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are we paying for this??????????????????

we shouldn't be helping of paying for this..

yes, we should because it's the right thing to do. willing to bet if that was your family, you might see things differently

I think it’s only the right thing to do up until there is no way there could be any survivors, particularly given that it may imploded and there aren’t remains to return to the family.

I get this, but at the same time, at this point they've all mobilized such international effort and spent that money, let them tie it up. If they're still there in a few weeks that's ridiculous, but for now let all of those on the rescue/recovery get that experience.

What?! Weeks of searching just adds to the cost. Pardon the economic term (no pun intended) but the money already spent is a sunk cost. There’s no reason to throw good money after bad when there’s unlikely to be anything recoverable. This debris field should be investigated, but no more than one week should be devoted to this rescue/recovery mission.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's too bad they couldn't get the ROVs there sooner to find them alive and bring them up through bringing them up sounded risky as well since it would involve depressurization and if the thing wasn't already working properly, maybe they would not have survived the ascent.

if reports are true and there was something defective/leak, they never had a chance. The pressure in itself would cause it to implode ...there's nothing to "find"

The Titan would probably have reached a depth of around 3,500 meters by the time communication was lost, meaning the pressure would be equal to 345 times Earth's atmosphere. If the pressure vessel has failed catastrophically, it’s like a small bomb going off.

The 3PM conference means that think they have some new information, maybe

Would there have been telltale signs of an implosion at the surface the crew on the ship missed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
From CNN just now:

"Company confirms its vehicle found debris field in Titanic submersible search area
From CNN’s Paul P. Murphy

A spokesperson for Pelagic Research Services confirmed to CNN that its remote operated vehicle (ROV), which was the first to conduct a search for the missing OceanGate sub on the sea floor, found the debris field.

The US Coast Guard announced earlier today that a debris field had been found in the search area.

Pelagic Research Services describes itself on its website as “an ocean services company that brings expedition planning, execution and state of the art sub-sea research tools to the ocean community on a global basis."


From the front page of the Pelagic Research Services website that I just went to:

"PRS want to express our full gratitude for the incredible, coordinated rescue response of everyone involved in this search and rescue mission. Our focus right now is on the families of those on the Titan and for their tragic loss."

"Tragic loss" is an interesting choice of words. Probably unintentional (though confusing).

Why is it an interesting choice of words? They are clearly dead. People don’t actually still think there’s a chance that they are bobbing around waiting to be unsealed, right?

Because nothing has been officially confirmed yet and the "debris field" has not yet been confirmed to be from the Titan. Obviously it's likely they are dead, but you don't put out a confusing statement like that before anything official is announced.