Options for opposing Connecticut Avenue changes?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I had the opportunity over the weekend to talk to a few of my neighbors about the bike lanes (and the had spoken to other neighbors previously) - we live close to Connecticut Avenue. After about a 20 minute discussion, we determined that on our block, there are two households vehemently opposed, and everyone is for. No one sees it as that big of a deal and appears to be a way of significantly improve the quality of life on the corridor.

The people opposed post all the time on our neighborhood email list.

Did you ask them whether they were in favor of bike lanes or whether they were in favor of permanently closing two lanes of traffic on Connecticut Avenue?

It's the shutting down two lanes of traffic that people are complaining about.

+1 A lot of us are for bike lanes and more riders (for those who can) but against screwing up Connecticut Ave and routing more frustrated drivers into the neighborhood and specifically onto Reno.

The additional north-south traffic is going to be distributed across different north-south routes. It's true that a portion of Reno is forecast to get more traffic, but there will be a decreas on many E-W routes. As traffic engineers for the city, DDOT is looking at the city as a whole.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had the opportunity over the weekend to talk to a few of my neighbors about the bike lanes (and the had spoken to other neighbors previously) - we live close to Connecticut Avenue. After about a 20 minute discussion, we determined that on our block, there are two households vehemently opposed, and everyone is for. No one sees it as that big of a deal and appears to be a way of significantly improve the quality of life on the corridor.

The people opposed post all the time on our neighborhood email list.

7000+ a day cars through the neighborhood streets isn’t a big deal?

And that's the optimistic estimate that assumes a 10x increase in the amount of non-recreational bicyclists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had the opportunity over the weekend to talk to a few of my neighbors about the bike lanes (and the had spoken to other neighbors previously) - we live close to Connecticut Avenue. After about a 20 minute discussion, we determined that on our block, there are two households vehemently opposed, and everyone is for. No one sees it as that big of a deal and appears to be a way of significantly improve the quality of life on the corridor.

The people opposed post all the time on our neighborhood email list.

Did you ask them whether they were in favor of bike lanes or whether they were in favor of permanently closing two lanes of traffic on Connecticut Avenue?

It's the shutting down two lanes of traffic that people are complaining about.

+1 A lot of us are for bike lanes and more riders (for those who can) but against screwing up Connecticut Ave and routing more frustrated drivers into the neighborhood and specifically onto Reno.

The additional north-south traffic is going to be distributed across different north-south routes. It's true that a portion of Reno is forecast to get more traffic, but there will be a decreas on many E-W routes. As traffic engineers for the city, DDOT is looking at the city as a whole.

DDOT is also trying to sell a plan for Connecticut avenue that most people don't want so take what they say with a grain of salt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had the opportunity over the weekend to talk to a few of my neighbors about the bike lanes (and the had spoken to other neighbors previously) - we live close to Connecticut Avenue. After about a 20 minute discussion, we determined that on our block, there are two households vehemently opposed, and everyone is for. No one sees it as that big of a deal and appears to be a way of significantly improve the quality of life on the corridor.

The people opposed post all the time on our neighborhood email list.

Did you ask them whether they were in favor of bike lanes or whether they were in favor of permanently closing two lanes of traffic on Connecticut Avenue?

It's the shutting down two lanes of traffic that people are complaining about.

+1 A lot of us are for bike lanes and more riders (for those who can) but against screwing up Connecticut Ave and routing more frustrated drivers into the neighborhood and specifically onto Reno.

The additional north-south traffic is going to be distributed across different north-south routes. It's true that a portion of Reno is forecast to get more traffic, but there will be a decreas on many E-W routes. As traffic engineers for the city, DDOT is looking at the city as a whole.

There we go. They've finally admitted that it's bad for the area where it is planned for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:According to DDOT 300 bicycle trips a day are made on the 3 mile stretch of Connecticut in question.

According to DDOT 30,000 car trips a day are made on that same stretch.

Also according to a map, there are 6 lanes set aside for vehicles right now and none for bicycles. Makes sense that there are more vehicle trips since drivers are being given so much of the public right of way.

[Anonymous]

This is truly beautiful. Imagine something like it for DC:

[twitter] https://twitter.com/edwardlamb/status/1573228176217722880[/twitter]

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is truly beautiful. Imagine something like it for DC:

[twitter] https://twitter.com/edwardlamb/status/1573228176217722880[/twitter]

The only problem: People here aren't into bikes. We've had bike lanes for a very long time and still almost no one uses them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's in everyone's interest -- drivers, pedestrians, cyclists -- to have any much car traffic moving as efficiently as possible on major roads, ie any street named after a state. That's what they were designed for and that's where everyone expects there to be lots of traffic. When we force drivers to start cutting through neighborhoods on side streets because the main arteries are clogged, that's when we're asking for trouble.

+1. And it could be even worse on the weekends when tourists heading to the Zoo get routed by Waze onto Reno and into the neighborhoods. It’s completely foreseeable, sadly. Homeowners on side streets adjacent to Connecticut will get no relief.

Maybe this will encourage more people to use the metro that is conveniently located near the Zoo!
I think the 89 pages of this thread show pretty clearly that it is not in cyclists and pedestrian interest to keep things as they are, but you can keep chatting into the void.

Don't we all know how this movie is going to end? This plan is never going to take effect and, if it does, it will quickly be rescinded. It would be career suicide for city council members to create traffic Armageddon that pisses off hundreds of thousands of people for the sake of, like, nine guys who are really into bikes.

+1

+2. Go on Twitter. Follow Bike Lane Squaters of DC. Behold daily pictures of blocked bike lanes all over the city, INCLUDING the beloved concrete “protected” bike lanes. And you want to bring this junk to Connecticut Ave? Stop hiding behind studies. People can see with their own eyes that it’s not going to work.

That's hilarious. Love the government vehicles parked in bike lanes.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:According to DDOT 300 bicycle trips a day are made on the 3 mile stretch of Connecticut in question.

According to DDOT 30,000 car trips a day are made on that same stretch.

Also according to a map, there are 6 lanes set aside for vehicles right now and none for bicycles. Makes sense that there are more vehicle trips since drivers are being given so much of the public right of way.

Even under the absurdly optimistic estimates that assume a 1,000% increase in non-recreational biking and a 50% increase in neighborhood traffic there would be a greater than 3:1 ratio of bike:car capacity under this plan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is truly beautiful. Imagine something like it for DC:

[twitter] https://twitter.com/edwardlamb/status/1573228176217722880[/twitter]

The only problem: People here aren't into bikes. We've had bike lanes for a very long time and still almost no one uses them.

That's not true. DDOT estimates that 300 bike trips per day are made on Connecticut Ave.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:According to DDOT 300 bicycle trips a day are made on the 3 mile stretch of Connecticut in question.

According to DDOT 30,000 car trips a day are made on that same stretch.

Also according to a map, there are 6 lanes set aside for vehicles right now and none for bicycles. Makes sense that there are more vehicle trips since drivers are being given so much of the public right of way.

Even under the absurdly optimistic estimates that assume a 1,000% increase in non-recreational biking and a 50% increase in neighborhood traffic there would be a greater than 3:1 ratio of bike:car capacity under this plan.

The redundancy of these arguments my goodness

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had the opportunity over the weekend to talk to a few of my neighbors about the bike lanes (and the had spoken to other neighbors previously) - we live close to Connecticut Avenue. After about a 20 minute discussion, we determined that on our block, there are two households vehemently opposed, and everyone is for. No one sees it as that big of a deal and appears to be a way of significantly improve the quality of life on the corridor.

The people opposed post all the time on our neighborhood email list.

Did you ask them whether they were in favor of bike lanes or whether they were in favor of permanently closing two lanes of traffic on Connecticut Avenue?

It's the shutting down two lanes of traffic that people are complaining about.

We talked through the issue thoroughly. Everyone understood what the new configuration is. Most of them plan to use the bike lanes once built. Others understood that this is a 'greater good' issue. None of them ever park on Connecticut Avenue when they shop, either in our part of the Ward or other parts. So they didn't see it as negatively impacting them in any way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had the opportunity over the weekend to talk to a few of my neighbors about the bike lanes (and the had spoken to other neighbors previously) - we live close to Connecticut Avenue. After about a 20 minute discussion, we determined that on our block, there are two households vehemently opposed, and everyone is for. No one sees it as that big of a deal and appears to be a way of significantly improve the quality of life on the corridor.

The people opposed post all the time on our neighborhood email list.

Did you ask them whether they were in favor of bike lanes or whether they were in favor of permanently closing two lanes of traffic on Connecticut Avenue?

It's the shutting down two lanes of traffic that people are complaining about.

+1 A lot of us are for bike lanes and more riders (for those who can) but against screwing up Connecticut Ave and routing more frustrated drivers into the neighborhood and specifically onto Reno.

Connecticut Avenue is already screwed up. There are already back-ups, there are already frustrated drivers "cutting through" (ie using public) side streets. The condition you are fearful of is here today, without bike lanes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had the opportunity over the weekend to talk to a few of my neighbors about the bike lanes (and the had spoken to other neighbors previously) - we live close to Connecticut Avenue. After about a 20 minute discussion, we determined that on our block, there are two households vehemently opposed, and everyone is for. No one sees it as that big of a deal and appears to be a way of significantly improve the quality of life on the corridor.

The people opposed post all the time on our neighborhood email list.

7000+ a day cars through the neighborhood streets isn’t a big deal?

This is an example of a hyperbolic statement made by someone who either doesn't know how to read DDOTs charts or else is taking bad information from someone else who doesn't know how to read DDOT's charts and is choosing to spread the misinformation widely.