Lebanon / Israel

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Anonymous wrote:This is so ridiculous. Muslims and Christians go to Ramadan and Christmas parties. Literally nobody cares about religion in Lebanon. Lebanese are Lebanese. Period.

It’s disgusting that the trouble makers want to foment sectarianism once more in the Levant. It failed in Palestine and it failed in Iraq and it failed in Syria. Arabs know who the troublemakers are

Yes Israel. Without Israel the Middle East would be peaceful. Too bad terrorists like Israel continue to go unpunished. The only reason Israel did not invade Egypt was because Turkey said they would come in on the side of Egypt. Right now Israel is violation of the Egypt Israeli peace treaty with the occupation of the Philadelphia corridor.

Hopefully the Syrian with Russian will aid the Lebanese against the invading Israelis.

This is so sad. Why can’t Israel be happy with what they have? They have a beautiful country and still want more. They should accept a two state solution and Palestinian politicos that support that (Fatah/West Bank) instead of the ones that want a one state solution (Hamas).

Now, they covet Lebanon and the extremist settlers who reside in the West Bank say they need Lebanon. Wtf? Manifest destiny is not going to work for them. Israel is not the U.S., and Muslims are not Native Americans with natural tribal and linguistic divisions. Sunnis and Shias pray together in Lebanon. Christians and Muslims have lived for centuries and both speak Arabic. They both eat the same foods and listen to the same music and say the same name for God (Allah). Allah is Arabic for God and said by Arab Christians.

Israel takes advantage of the U.S. including our presidents complete lack of knowledge about the region. In 2003, the Us’s first strike was on an Iraqi church. Pres Bush famously didn’t know what the difference between Sunni and Shia.

It’s like someone dividing the US between Catholic whites and Protestant whites. It’s ridiculous. If Christians spoke a different language, I can understand how ethnic distinction and divisions could be made but in the end, Lebanon in particular will be a hard country to crack with civil war. Israel will try with all their might but if it failed with Palestinians and Syrians, it will fail
There as well. Israel may have their own civil war in the next 5 years. They should be more concerned about what. Netanyahu has torn the country apart

You need to accept Israelis never wanted peace, not since THEY assassinated Rabin. And that wasn't some anomaly - that's most of the country's mindset.

America allowed Israel to become this. People keep making excuses for Israelis by saying it's only Bibi. No, it's the overwhelming majority. Those protests you saw a while back were about THEM being free. They're fine with being violent occupiers and land thieves. Israel is destroying itself and as an American of Palestinian descent who know first hand how repugnant they behave, it's karma as far as I'm concerned.

This is such crap. Jews have only wanted peace - they’ve been under constant attack for centuries by Islamist invaders.

Israel - in its modern form - is no exception. Israel wanted a two-state solution. Hamas / PLO did not - they wanted literal eradication of all Jews, including those in Israel. And, of course, Israel gone even though it’s Jewish indigenous land (that Islamists stole).

Israel has the right to defend itself.

Why didn’t Israel defend itself against Germany?

Israel does not desire peace. It desires dominance. Israel does not want a two state solution. It wants regional collapse

When did Germany attack Israel?

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Israel hits houthis, kills Hazbollah successor (a tenure of hours) and Assad’s brother in 24 hours.


Respect to them, but I don’t want American boys on the line for this/ Israel is spoiling for a war with Iran.

[Anonymous]

Why didn’t Israel defend itself against Germany?

Presumably, you are talking about during WWII. The easy answer is that the state of Israel didn't exist then. The longer answer is that Jews had very little ability to protect themselves from the Nazi genocide. That's the origin of the phrase "never again." Jews made a decision that they would never again be helpless in the face of genocidal hostility. Hence the reaction to attacks against Israel over the decades, and Israel's determined efforts to maintain military superiority in the region.

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Why didn’t Israel defend itself against Germany?

Presumably, you are talking about during WWII. The easy answer is that the state of Israel didn't exist then. The longer answer is that Jews had very little ability to protect themselves from the Nazi genocide. That's the origin of the phrase "never again." Jews made a decision that they would never again be helpless in the face of genocidal hostility. Hence the reaction to attacks against Israel over the decades, and Israel's determined efforts to maintain military superiority in the region.

I thought the phrase "never again" was supposed to refer to the world's acceptance of genocide/ethnic cleansing?

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Why didn’t Israel defend itself against Germany?

Presumably, you are talking about during WWII. The easy answer is that the state of Israel didn't exist then. The longer answer is that Jews had very little ability to protect themselves from the Nazi genocide. That's the origin of the phrase "never again." Jews made a decision that they would never again be helpless in the face of genocidal hostility. Hence the reaction to attacks against Israel over the decades, and Israel's determined efforts to maintain military superiority in the region.

I thought the phrase "never again" was supposed to refer to the world's acceptance of genocide/ethnic cleansing?

I think Isreal's made pretty clear how much it doesn't care about genocide/ethnic cleansing of non jewish people.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel hits houthis, kills Hazbollah successor (a tenure of hours) and Assad’s brother in 24 hours.


Respect to them, but I don’t want American boys on the line for this/ Israel is spoiling for a war with Iran.

Yes, pretty impressive obliteration of terrorists.

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Anonymous wrote:These are not precision strikes:

From the WaPo "Israel probably employed U.S.-made 2,000-pound munitions in its strike that killed Hezbollah leader Hasan Nasrallah, according to a review of visuals released by the Israel Defense Forces. Analysts who examined videos of the strike and its aftermath at The Washington Post’s request said the damage was consistent with the use of multiple 2,000-pound bombs."

The current issue is not about Israel's right of existence, it's about the right of Palestinians and Lebanese people to live.

On 10/8 Israel could have chosen to fortify its defenses while examining the root of why Hamas held so much anger, working cooperatively with its neighbors to develop a plan for long term peace.

Instead, Israel chose the path of vengeance and war. Maybe that makes Israelis feel better, but I think it created - and is still creating - much more hatred.

Hatred will lead to more terrorism both in Israel as well as in the US.

Nice blame shifting. If Hamas and Hezbollah don’t want to be attacked, they should stop attacking people. Simple.

So they should just bend over and take what Israel continues to do to THEM?

Hezbollah, huthis, Hamas are all terrorist organizations backed by Iran operating in countries that don't seem to want to remove them. They all should be eliminated, no cease fire just like isis

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No. Hamas and Hezbollah are only fighting against the Israeli who stole their land and kill their people. Israel is the true terrorist. Just look at what they do!

Hamas and Hezbollah are both officially designated as terrorist organizations by the U.S. government. Hamas has been on the U.S. State Department's Foreign Terrorist Organization list since 1997 due to its numerous attacks on civilians, including suicide bombings and rocket attacks aimed at achieving political objectives​.

Similarly, Hezbollah has been listed as a terrorist group since 1997 for its role in violence against Israeli and U.S. targets and its strong ties to Iran​

Despite these designations, Lebanon and Palestine have refused to categorize these groups as terrorist organizations. Hezbollah holds significant political power in Lebanon and is not classified as a terrorist organization there.

Israel, on the other hand, is not listed as a terrorist state by the U.S. or any other major international body. Israel is recognized as a sovereign state and a key ally to the U.S. and many Western countries. While there are accusations from critics regarding its military actions, especially in Gaza and the West Bank, these are not categorized as acts of terrorism by the U.S. government. Israel’s military operations are generally framed within the context of national defense against groups like Hamas and Hezbollah, which are known for targeting civilians​.

While the debate over Israel's policies continues, international bodies like the U.S. State Department focus on the actions of groups like Hamas and Hezbollah, whose tactics include the targeting of civilians, to make their terrorist designations​

AI trash

You could have just said “because the U.S. says so” and it would been just as credible as regurgitating that State (glorious impartial State!) designated anyone anything. The same State Department that employs individuals like Blinken and Seldowitz and doest’t consider conflicts of interest a disqualifier unless the candidate is Arabic or Muslim, or otherwise might not be 100% in the tank for Israel.

Shame on you for pushing such bias and misinformation. The U.S. State Department designates groups like Hamas and Hezbollah based on legal criteria and intelligence, not just "because the U.S. says so." Dismissing their designations and resorting to attacks on individuals like Blinken or Seldowitz is both irresponsible and baseless. If you want to have a serious discussion, bring credible arguments instead of making unfounded accusations.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel hits houthis, kills Hazbollah successor (a tenure of hours) and Assad’s brother in 24 hours.


Respect to them, but I don’t want American boys on the line for this/ Israel is spoiling for a war with Iran.

There won't be a genuine war between Israel and Iran. They are not neighboring countries. And neither is marching armies across Syria, Jordan and Iraq. Israel has the obvious advantage in projecting air power. But they are much more interested in destroying Iran's proxy armies in the region - Hamas and Hezbollah. They have their plate full. Iran, particularly the new president, has no interest in a genuine regional war. The regime is too weak politically to engage in a real war. It will merely be noisy for a while longer, but there will not be genuine military conflict between Israel and Iran.

The only wild card is if Iran decides to cross the line and go full nuclear. That changes the dynamics in the region. Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the Gulf States may attack Iran very quickly if they choose to cross that threshold. But I don't think Iran wants that war.

In the meantime, Israel's success in destroying the leadership of Hezbollah is quite likely to lead to a quicker resolution of the conflicts in Lebanon and Gaza. Iran is significantly weakened. Their influence over Lebanon has been seriously degraded. Hamas too is weak and hiding in tunnels and among women and children. Once Sinwar is dead, Palestinians can choose how they want to proceed. But Iran won't be much of a player in Gaza anymore, so Palestinians are on their own. They have no other regional support.

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Amazed at the level of ignorance, stupidity and antisemitic sentiments of many posters here. Would be good for you to read and study history and geography a bit, people.... and stop spreading misinformation and lies.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel hits houthis, kills Hazbollah successor (a tenure of hours) and Assad’s brother in 24 hours.


Respect to them, but I don’t want American boys on the line for this/ Israel is spoiling for a war with Iran.

There won't be a genuine war between Israel and Iran. They are not neighboring countries. And neither is marching armies across Syria, Jordan and Iraq. Israel has the obvious advantage in projecting air power. But they are much more interested in destroying Iran's proxy armies in the region - Hamas and Hezbollah. They have their plate full. Iran, particularly the new president, has no interest in a genuine regional war. The regime is too weak politically to engage in a real war. It will merely be noisy for a while longer, but there will not be genuine military conflict between Israel and Iran.

The only wild card is if Iran decides to cross the line and go full nuclear. That changes the dynamics in the region. Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the Gulf States may attack Iran very quickly if they choose to cross that threshold. But I don't think Iran wants that war.

In the meantime, Israel's success in destroying the leadership of Hezbollah is quite likely to lead to a quicker resolution of the conflicts in Lebanon and Gaza. Iran is significantly weakened. Their influence over Lebanon has been seriously degraded. Hamas too is weak and hiding in tunnels and among women and children. Once Sinwar is dead, Palestinians can choose how they want to proceed. But Iran won't be much of a player in Gaza anymore, so Palestinians are on their own. They have no other regional support.

They have American youth support. That’s the best support to have. Israel’s stuck in the past. Iran was never providing anything beyond nominal support to Hamas. Qatar was Hamas’s financier and support along with Turkey and by proximity Egypt. All US Allies. Hamas also gets support from Russia and China

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Anonymous wrote:These are not precision strikes:

From the WaPo "Israel probably employed U.S.-made 2,000-pound munitions in its strike that killed Hezbollah leader Hasan Nasrallah, according to a review of visuals released by the Israel Defense Forces. Analysts who examined videos of the strike and its aftermath at The Washington Post’s request said the damage was consistent with the use of multiple 2,000-pound bombs."

The current issue is not about Israel's right of existence, it's about the right of Palestinians and Lebanese people to live.

On 10/8 Israel could have chosen to fortify its defenses while examining the root of why Hamas held so much anger, working cooperatively with its neighbors to develop a plan for long term peace.

Instead, Israel chose the path of vengeance and war. Maybe that makes Israelis feel better, but I think it created - and is still creating - much more hatred.

Hatred will lead to more terrorism both in Israel as well as in the US.

Nasrallah was the Shiite equivalent of Bin Laden, who was widely liquidated on the order of President Obama.

Israel has done the world a tremendous service in taking out Nasrallah; thanks goes to them.

Everyone everywhere should be celebrating this wonderful news and handing out sweets.

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Israel can’t accept they are the social pariah now. Netanyahu fumbled all of Israel’s popularity starting with the Democrat
party during the Obama admin.

When half of Americas Jewish population and a major U.S. political left wing
party is disillusioned with Netanyahu, that has reverbations for years to come and we saw that after 10/7. Netanyahu was already an unpopular figure among the Us left pre-10/7.

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Anonymous wrote:These are not precision strikes:

From the WaPo "Israel probably employed U.S.-made 2,000-pound munitions in its strike that killed Hezbollah leader Hasan Nasrallah, according to a review of visuals released by the Israel Defense Forces. Analysts who examined videos of the strike and its aftermath at The Washington Post’s request said the damage was consistent with the use of multiple 2,000-pound bombs."

The current issue is not about Israel's right of existence, it's about the right of Palestinians and Lebanese people to live.

On 10/8 Israel could have chosen to fortify its defenses while examining the root of why Hamas held so much anger, working cooperatively with its neighbors to develop a plan for long term peace.

Instead, Israel chose the path of vengeance and war. Maybe that makes Israelis feel better, but I think it created - and is still creating - much more hatred.

Hatred will lead to more terrorism both in Israel as well as in the US.

Nasrallah was the Shiite equivalent of Bin Laden, who was widely liquidated on the order of President Obama.

Israel has done the world a tremendous service in taking out Nasrallah; thanks goes to them.

Everyone everywhere should be celebrating this wonderful news and handing out sweets.

Calling Nasrallah a terrorist is like calling David Duke a terrorist. He’s a terrorist in name only but he never left his basement. He just made videos saying Israel needs to be destroyed but he didn’t actually kill anybody himself nor was Hezbollah a major threat to Israel whatsoever. Israel’s just afraid of their ground game because Hezbollah beat ISIS. They want to defeat them via far away tactics like beeper explosions because last year Israel got ran off the field in 48 hours when they entered Lebanon. Israel funded ISIS over and over again and they kept coming back intermittently in Syria and each time Hezbollah among others like Russia, Syrian army, and under Trump even the U.S. beat them.

Israel won’t admit they funded ISIS against the US and the Us and Hezbollah and Russia were fighting on the same side back during the Trump administration. Curiously, once the Israeli proxy was subdued, the Syrian war ended and people were able to re migrate back from Europe and the Us back to Syria. What a surprise

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I am sure we are going to see “ISIS” aka the Israeli security intelligence service make its grand debut in Beirut some time soon to fight Hezbollah and it will be branded as a “Sunni vs Shia” sectarian battle among crazy Lebanese Muslims who can’t get along even though sectarianism is as foreign as Chinese to Lebanon.
Israel’s tricks failed in Syria and it failed in Lebanon in the 1980s. They will never get the West Bank and Gaza to stop identifying as one or Lebanese or Syrians to split on religious lines.

Israel is the one that may get a karmic cycle one day with their own political and ethnodivision of which there are plenty. Israel is a religiously divided, racially splintered, and classist country and they don’t have the unity their neighbors have

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Anonymous wrote:This is so ridiculous. Muslims and Christians go to Ramadan and Christmas parties. Literally nobody cares about religion in Lebanon. Lebanese are Lebanese. Period.

It’s disgusting that the trouble makers want to foment sectarianism once more in the Levant. It failed in Palestine and it failed in Iraq and it failed in Syria. Arabs know who the troublemakers are

Yes Israel. Without Israel the Middle East would be peaceful. Too bad terrorists like Israel continue to go unpunished. The only reason Israel did not invade Egypt was because Turkey said they would come in on the side of Egypt. Right now Israel is violation of the Egypt Israeli peace treaty with the occupation of the Philadelphia corridor.

Hopefully the Syrian with Russian will aid the Lebanese against the invading Israelis.

This is so sad. Why can’t Israel be happy with what they have? They have a beautiful country and still want more. They should accept a two state solution and Palestinian politicos that support that (Fatah/West Bank) instead of the ones that want a one state solution (Hamas).

Now, they covet Lebanon and the extremist settlers who reside in the West Bank say they need Lebanon. Wtf? Manifest destiny is not going to work for them. Israel is not the U.S., and Muslims are not Native Americans with natural tribal and linguistic divisions. Sunnis and Shias pray together in Lebanon. Christians and Muslims have lived for centuries and both speak Arabic. They both eat the same foods and listen to the same music and say the same name for God (Allah). Allah is Arabic for God and said by Arab Christians.

Israel takes advantage of the U.S. including our presidents complete lack of knowledge about the region. In 2003, the Us’s first strike was on an Iraqi church. Pres Bush famously didn’t know what the difference between Sunni and Shia.

It’s like someone dividing the US between Catholic whites and Protestant whites. It’s ridiculous. If Christians spoke a different language, I can understand how ethnic distinction and divisions could be made but in the end, Lebanon in particular will be a hard country to crack with civil war. Israel will try with all their might but if it failed with Palestinians and Syrians, it will fail
There as well. Israel may have their own civil war in the next 5 years. They should be more concerned about what. Netanyahu has torn the country apart

You need to accept Israelis never wanted peace, not since THEY assassinated Rabin. And that wasn't some anomaly - that's most of the country's mindset.

America allowed Israel to become this. People keep making excuses for Israelis by saying it's only Bibi. No, it's the overwhelming majority. Those protests you saw a while back were about THEM being free. They're fine with being violent occupiers and land thieves. Israel is destroying itself and as an American of Palestinian descent who know first hand how repugnant they behave, it's karma as far as I'm concerned.

This is such crap. Jews have only wanted peace - they’ve been under constant attack for centuries by Islamist invaders.

Israel - in its modern form - is no exception. Israel wanted a two-state solution. Hamas / PLO did not - they wanted literal eradication of all Jews, including those in Israel. And, of course, Israel gone even though it’s Jewish indigenous land (that Islamists stole).

Israel has the right to defend itself.

Why didn’t Israel defend itself against Germany?

Israel does not desire peace. It desires dominance. Israel does not want a two state solution. It wants regional collapse

When did Germany attack Israel?

You’re right. That never happened. Six million Jews= ok.

1,100 Jews= die die die they’re animals.

You make them live worse than animals in a jail and wonder why they attack? A Gazan couldn’t even fish in the Med Sea for fish and clean water when it’s right there. A famine is going on because Israeli ships are on the sea along with American ships shooting anyone getting food. That type of cruelty is one that a kid can never forget. Hamas will be even worse in 10-15 years for Israel