FCPS HS Boundary

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Anonymous wrote:AAP centers see the same issues because they also have non-AAP kids there. It's just a bit more insulated in the classrooms for the AAP kids.

But the promise of getting your kid into aap or a school being able to say (indirectly or directly) “we ARE serving your kid, they aren’t ready for extra.” Plays into the minds of parents and helps them feel they have somethjng to strive for. It has kept much parents in.

VA orMD not parents will do what is best for their kids. There will be flight from schools. The board is new and dumb and haven’t figured out this will be a downfall for years to come.

The board is not dumb. There is no perfect solution to this complicated problem and no decision will make everyone happy.

Sorry but this board is green and dumb and clearly doesn’t understand what nice white and upper middle class parents actually want. Just look at what they are doing. They don’t understand the actual consequences of what they are doing.

Guessing you are not the “not everything is about race” poster 🙄

Go ahead, write your to, make your noise… denial and anger come before acceptance.

Or, just stfu and MOVE since you’ve got it like that. Go insulate yourself from the browns and the poors and be done with it.

You are clearly not understanding the issue. I’m not insulated from “blacks and browns” I want my kids insulated from gangs and violence. My kids go to a majority minority school. The thing is we have to move out of the county as apparently no place is safe here. When we bought, we thought we were buying a majority minority well performing pyramid. Now no one knows where that may be.
The board will just redistrict in secret when they want. So if you live across west Springfield high school but Lewis is closer to you than they are currently bussing kids, they could just plop you in Lewis. Who knows which neighborhoods to even buy into. That is why the board is dumb

Do you actually know kids who attend Lewis? Or are you just regurgitating things you’ve heard? Because I know multiple families of children who attend now, and they do not share your opinion of it being a gang infested slum, as you would like to believe.

Sounds like your child would benefit from attending private school, where you could have more influence over their peers. But when you elect to send your kid to a free PUBLIC school, you lose that control and accept that decisions are made in the best interest of the community.

Cool. If that is true:
why do so many transfer out?
Why hasn’t getting rid of IB brought people
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Why do people leave the Lewis area after elementary?

I chose public for my kids. I want them to be exposed to people of all races and they are. In order for children to develop respect for races they need to see successful people of that race. This is why one of the biggest things you can do to help black and brown kids is to show people like them doing well. I chose a high performing minority school so my kids can grow up knowing all people can be successful regardless of color. You do you. If you want Lewis for your kid- have at it. I loved the fact my kid was going k-12 in a geographic radius of 2 miles, have community and see successful people of color around them. That will change if their school changes.

You can rail against me if you want but I bet you want the same for your kid. You think bringing in white kids will help. I think giving more supports immigrant families need (not test scores but social services) will help more.

I think FCPS will not do this and instead ruin what works for many.

Where did I say anything about bringing in white kids? Who is race baiting now? I’m excited about Lewis getting higher SES kids with engaged parents, idgaf about their race.

Transfers out of Lewis occur for many reasons. You could easily research this, but you don’t really care about those do you?

This is too funny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is just a huge mistake to make these sort of changes without transparency. It makes people doubt the process and not understand the thinking behind the changes. The school board should be able to stand behind their proposed boundary changes publicly and through their defense of it might ease some minds. There also would be less panic if people knew what was actually being considered. As it is, no one knows whether what they are considering is actually reasonable or not.

I'm interested that so much of the discussion on this thread is about WSHS. Is that just because that's the community most on this board? Because I think there are other areas, West Potomac/Mt. Vernon springs to mind, that are just as problematic. Are those people just not tracking this or does everyone think they won't be included?

So they use taxpayer money to expand West Potomac to 3000 seats and then they turn around and say, “oops, we goofed” and move kids out of expanded West Po to Mount Vernon? Not sure they will be quite so willing to put their incompetence on full display.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They won't touch Keene Mill. That school brings in a good amount of diversity to WSHS.

It's going to be Hunt Valley, folks. No way to get around that. Most of the neighborhoods (if not all) that border the parkway after Gambrill, go to Lewis.

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Hunt Valley is the farthests neighborhood away from.Lewis, with the exception of Sangster.

Keene Mill is the closest.

BOTH west Springfield elem and keene mill are 3.2 miles away from Lewis. Keene mill is 2 miles from wshs and west Springfield is closer. We walk to Irving because it is in our community.

They won't move an elementary school feeder when kids can walk to Irving. Wake up. And they won't shift West Springfield Elementary either. It will be Hunt Valley. It's not about proximity to the high school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is just a huge mistake to make these sort of changes without transparency. It makes people doubt the process and not understand the thinking behind the changes. The school board should be able to stand behind their proposed boundary changes publicly and through their defense of it might ease some minds. There also would be less panic if people knew what was actually being considered. As it is, no one knows whether what they are considering is actually reasonable or not.

I'm interested that so much of the discussion on this thread is about WSHS. Is that just because that's the community most on this board? Because I think there are other areas, West Potomac/Mt. Vernon springs to mind, that are just as problematic. Are those people just not tracking this or does everyone think they won't be included?

So they use taxpayer money to expand West Potomac to 3000 seats and then they turn around and say, “oops, we goofed” and move kids out of expanded West Po to Mount Vernon? Not sure they will be quite so willing to put their incompetence on full display.

Same thing just happened at WSHS/Lewis. Why is WSHS in the hot seat and not West Po?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ugh I just bought a house zoned for Keene Mill/Irving/West Springfield. Am I screwed?

No. That's walking to Irving. They will move Hunt Valley kids Saratoga and shift Orange Hunt kids to Hunt Valley.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is just a huge mistake to make these sort of changes without transparency. It makes people doubt the process and not understand the thinking behind the changes. The school board should be able to stand behind their proposed boundary changes publicly and through their defense of it might ease some minds. There also would be less panic if people knew what was actually being considered. As it is, no one knows whether what they are considering is actually reasonable or not.

I'm interested that so much of the discussion on this thread is about WSHS. Is that just because that's the community most on this board? Because I think there are other areas, West Potomac/Mt. Vernon springs to mind, that are just as problematic. Are those people just not tracking this or does everyone think they won't be included?

So they use taxpayer money to expand West Potomac to 3000 seats and then they turn around and say, “oops, we goofed” and move kids out of expanded West Po to Mount Vernon? Not sure they will be quite so willing to put their incompetence on full display.

Same thing just happened at WSHS/Lewis. Why is WSHS in the hot seat and not West Po?

Mount Vernon is not as under-enrolled as Lewis. Also, the WSHS expansion occurred as part of its scheduled renovation. They expanded West Po outside the renovation queue when it wasn’t otherwise scheduled. The optics are different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AAP centers see the same issues because they also have non-AAP kids there. It's just a bit more insulated in the classrooms for the AAP kids.

But the promise of getting your kid into aap or a school being able to say (indirectly or directly) “we ARE serving your kid, they aren’t ready for extra.” Plays into the minds of parents and helps them feel they have somethjng to strive for. It has kept much parents in.

VA orMD not parents will do what is best for their kids. There will be flight from schools. The board is new and dumb and haven’t figured out this will be a downfall for years to come.

The board is not dumb. There is no perfect solution to this complicated problem and no decision will make everyone happy.

Sorry but this board is green and dumb and clearly doesn’t understand what nice white and upper middle class parents actually want. Just look at what they are doing. They don’t understand the actual consequences of what they are doing.

Guessing you are not the “not everything is about race” poster 🙄

Go ahead, write your to, make your noise… denial and anger come before acceptance.

Or, just stfu and MOVE since you’ve got it like that. Go insulate yourself from the browns and the poors and be done with it.

You are clearly not understanding the issue. I’m not insulated from “blacks and browns” I want my kids insulated from gangs and violence. My kids go to a majority minority school. The thing is we have to move out of the county as apparently no place is safe here. When we bought, we thought we were buying a majority minority well performing pyramid. Now no one knows where that may be.
The board will just redistrict in secret when they want. So if you live across west Springfield high school but Lewis is closer to you than they are currently bussing kids, they could just plop you in Lewis. Who knows which neighborhoods to even buy into. That is why the board is dumb

Do you actually know kids who attend Lewis? Or are you just regurgitating things you’ve heard? Because I know multiple families of children who attend now, and they do not share your opinion of it being a gang infested slum, as you would like to believe.

Sounds like your child would benefit from attending private school, where you could have more influence over their peers. But when you elect to send your kid to a free PUBLIC school, you lose that control and accept that decisions are made in the best interest of the community.

Lots of disparaging lies to fire people up about possible re-zoning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AAP centers see the same issues because they also have non-AAP kids there. It's just a bit more insulated in the classrooms for the AAP kids.

But the promise of getting your kid into aap or a school being able to say (indirectly or directly) “we ARE serving your kid, they aren’t ready for extra.” Plays into the minds of parents and helps them feel they have somethjng to strive for. It has kept much parents in.

VA orMD not parents will do what is best for their kids. There will be flight from schools. The board is new and dumb and haven’t figured out this will be a downfall for years to come.

The board is not dumb. There is no perfect solution to this complicated problem and no decision will make everyone happy.

Sorry but this board is green and dumb and clearly doesn’t understand what nice white and upper middle class parents actually want. Just look at what they are doing. They don’t understand the actual consequences of what they are doing.

Guessing you are not the “not everything is about race” poster 🙄

Go ahead, write your to, make your noise… denial and anger come before acceptance.

Or, just stfu and MOVE since you’ve got it like that. Go insulate yourself from the browns and the poors and be done with it.

You are clearly not understanding the issue. I’m not insulated from “blacks and browns” I want my kids insulated from gangs and violence. My kids go to a majority minority school. The thing is we have to move out of the county as apparently no place is safe here. When we bought, we thought we were buying a majority minority well performing pyramid. Now no one knows where that may be.
The board will just redistrict in secret when they want. So if you live across west Springfield high school but Lewis is closer to you than they are currently bussing kids, they could just plop you in Lewis. Who knows which neighborhoods to even buy into. That is why the board is dumb

Do you actually know kids who attend Lewis? Or are you just regurgitating things you’ve heard? Because I know multiple families of children who attend now, and they do not share your opinion of it being a gang infested slum, as you would like to believe.

Sounds like your child would benefit from attending private school, where you could have more influence over their peers. But when you elect to send your kid to a free PUBLIC school, you lose that control and accept that decisions are made in the best interest of the community.

Cool. If that is true:
why do so many transfer out?
Why hasn’t getting rid of IB brought people
Back
Why do people leave the Lewis area after elementary?

I chose public for my kids. I want them to be exposed to people of all races and they are. In order for children to develop respect for races they need to see successful people of that race. This is why one of the biggest things you can do to help black and brown kids is to show people like them doing well. I chose a high performing minority school so my kids can grow up knowing all people can be successful regardless of color. You do you. If you want Lewis for your kid- have at it. I loved the fact my kid was going k-12 in a geographic radius of 2 miles, have community and see successful people of color around them. That will change if their school changes.

You can rail against me if you want but I bet you want the same for your kid. You think bringing in white kids will help. I think giving more supports immigrant families need (not test scores but social services) will help more.

I think FCPS will not do this and instead ruin what works for many.

Where did I say anything about bringing in white kids? Who is race baiting now? I’m excited about Lewis getting higher SES kids with engaged parents, idgaf about their race.

Transfers out of Lewis occur for many reasons. You could easily research this, but you don’t really care about those do you?

This is too funny.

If by funny you mean sad, I agree with you.

I do hope they release the plans as soon as practical. Some people are clearly going to need time to digest the news and make other plans (or not).

I guess we’ll see soon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AAP centers see the same issues because they also have non-AAP kids there. It's just a bit more insulated in the classrooms for the AAP kids.

But the promise of getting your kid into aap or a school being able to say (indirectly or directly) “we ARE serving your kid, they aren’t ready for extra.” Plays into the minds of parents and helps them feel they have somethjng to strive for. It has kept much parents in.

VA orMD not parents will do what is best for their kids. There will be flight from schools. The board is new and dumb and haven’t figured out this will be a downfall for years to come.

The board is not dumb. There is no perfect solution to this complicated problem and no decision will make everyone happy.

Sorry but this board is green and dumb and clearly doesn’t understand what nice white and upper middle class parents actually want. Just look at what they are doing. They don’t understand the actual consequences of what they are doing.

Guessing you are not the “not everything is about race” poster 🙄

Go ahead, write your to, make your noise… denial and anger come before acceptance.

Or, just stfu and MOVE since you’ve got it like that. Go insulate yourself from the browns and the poors and be done with it.

You are clearly not understanding the issue. I’m not insulated from “blacks and browns” I want my kids insulated from gangs and violence. My kids go to a majority minority school. The thing is we have to move out of the county as apparently no place is safe here. When we bought, we thought we were buying a majority minority well performing pyramid. Now no one knows where that may be.
The board will just redistrict in secret when they want. So if you live across west Springfield high school but Lewis is closer to you than they are currently bussing kids, they could just plop you in Lewis. Who knows which neighborhoods to even buy into. That is why the board is dumb

Do you actually know kids who attend Lewis? Or are you just regurgitating things you’ve heard? Because I know multiple families of children who attend now, and they do not share your opinion of it being a gang infested slum, as you would like to believe.

Sounds like your child would benefit from attending private school, where you could have more influence over their peers. But when you elect to send your kid to a free PUBLIC school, you lose that control and accept that decisions are made in the best interest of the community.

Lots of disparaging lies to fire people up about possible re-zoning.

No lies needed. People don’t want to send their kids to poor schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is just a huge mistake to make these sort of changes without transparency. It makes people doubt the process and not understand the thinking behind the changes. The school board should be able to stand behind their proposed boundary changes publicly and through their defense of it might ease some minds. There also would be less panic if people knew what was actually being considered. As it is, no one knows whether what they are considering is actually reasonable or not.

I'm interested that so much of the discussion on this thread is about WSHS. Is that just because that's the community most on this board? Because I think there are other areas, West Potomac/Mt. Vernon springs to mind, that are just as problematic. Are those people just not tracking this or does everyone think they won't be included?

Why do you think there isn’t transparency? The board is only working on the policy now (in public meetings). Then they will have a public work session. Then they will vote on the policy in public. Then they will hand it to the superintendent to make the actual plans for boundary adjustments. Then they will have community meetings and public meetings before anything happens. Just because a few people are posting incessantly on here doesn’t mean the actual changes have been decided. And, it’s truly bizarre that Lewis and WSHS take up so much of this thread. Again, driven by one or two posters, not reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is just a huge mistake to make these sort of changes without transparency. It makes people doubt the process and not understand the thinking behind the changes. The school board should be able to stand behind their proposed boundary changes publicly and through their defense of it might ease some minds. There also would be less panic if people knew what was actually being considered. As it is, no one knows whether what they are considering is actually reasonable or not.

I'm interested that so much of the discussion on this thread is about WSHS. Is that just because that's the community most on this board? Because I think there are other areas, West Potomac/Mt. Vernon springs to mind, that are just as problematic. Are those people just not tracking this or does everyone think they won't be included?

Why do you think there isn’t transparency? The board is only working on the policy now (in public meetings). Then they will have a public work session. Then they will vote on the policy in public. Then they will hand it to the superintendent to make the actual plans for boundary adjustments. Then they will have community meetings and public meetings before anything happens. Just because a few people are posting incessantly on here doesn’t mean the actual changes have been decided. And, it’s truly bizarre that Lewis and WSHS take up so much of this thread. Again, driven by one or two posters, not reality.

What are you blathering about? First, staff doesn’t need to wait for a policy update to be mapping out potential boundary adjustments now. The School Bosrd could adjust boundaries today under its current policy. Second, a lot of this is being driven by WS/Lewis because they are projecting a 2900-student school next to a school with less than half as many kids within the next five years.

Just because they will choreograph this doesn’t mean they aren’t already rehearsing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is just a huge mistake to make these sort of changes without transparency. It makes people doubt the process and not understand the thinking behind the changes. The school board should be able to stand behind their proposed boundary changes publicly and through their defense of it might ease some minds. There also would be less panic if people knew what was actually being considered. As it is, no one knows whether what they are considering is actually reasonable or not.

I'm interested that so much of the discussion on this thread is about WSHS. Is that just because that's the community most on this board? Because I think there are other areas, West Potomac/Mt. Vernon springs to mind, that are just as problematic. Are those people just not tracking this or does everyone think they won't be included?

So they use taxpayer money to expand West Potomac to 3000 seats and then they turn around and say, “oops, we goofed” and move kids out of expanded West Po to Mount Vernon? Not sure they will be quite so willing to put their incompetence on full display.

Same thing just happened at WSHS/Lewis. Why is WSHS in the hot seat and not West Po?

They should make Lewis a vocational type school or trades program. I think it would be fantastic for the surrounding population.

Or make it some sports or arts focused school. My child goes to basketball skills training in Springfield. Something like that offered would be popular I think.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is just a huge mistake to make these sort of changes without transparency. It makes people doubt the process and not understand the thinking behind the changes. The school board should be able to stand behind their proposed boundary changes publicly and through their defense of it might ease some minds. There also would be less panic if people knew what was actually being considered. As it is, no one knows whether what they are considering is actually reasonable or not.

I'm interested that so much of the discussion on this thread is about WSHS. Is that just because that's the community most on this board? Because I think there are other areas, West Potomac/Mt. Vernon springs to mind, that are just as problematic. Are those people just not tracking this or does everyone think they won't be included?

Honestly I think it is because those families already have private and what wshs has going for it is middle class families/military and government workers who want public. But they want strong public.
It is a tight knit community within a huge district and breaking that feels like a huge loss. We do little league sports and pools together. Taking one part of that while everyone else gets to stay is sad.

WSHS family here. I feel the same. We’re a mixed race, half immigrant, dual government family and our kids have a community here. I’d rather my children go to South County if we have to leave WSHS; we’ve played Little League and Burke Basketball with SC families.

Any guesses as to what will happen to Newington Forest families who are currently zoned for WS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is just a huge mistake to make these sort of changes without transparency. It makes people doubt the process and not understand the thinking behind the changes. The school board should be able to stand behind their proposed boundary changes publicly and through their defense of it might ease some minds. There also would be less panic if people knew what was actually being considered. As it is, no one knows whether what they are considering is actually reasonable or not.

I'm interested that so much of the discussion on this thread is about WSHS. Is that just because that's the community most on this board? Because I think there are other areas, West Potomac/Mt. Vernon springs to mind, that are just as problematic. Are those people just not tracking this or does everyone think they won't be included?

Why do you think there isn’t transparency? The board is only working on the policy now (in public meetings). Then they will have a public work session. Then they will vote on the policy in public. Then they will hand it to the superintendent to make the actual plans for boundary adjustments. Then they will have community meetings and public meetings before anything happens. Just because a few people are posting incessantly on here doesn’t mean the actual changes have been decided. And, it’s truly bizarre that Lewis and WSHS take up so much of this thread. Again, driven by one or two posters, not reality.

I think there isn’t transparency because step one for the school board was amending 8031 and the main change was adding a line that says they do not need to hold public hearings for an expedited boundary study, which is what they are working on. Read it. It’s easily accessible on board docs

[Anonymous]

But there already was a provision about expedited boundary adjustments in the current policy.

And the board has been talking about “holistic boundary changes” not one-offs.