Taylor Swift Tour

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Anonymous wrote:Guys YES it was luck and that’s the point - it wasn’t supposed to be: people PAID for the ease with which you got in and got tickets despite being absolute neophytes to how Taylor structures these ticket sales. That is why Ticketmaster is being investigated: it’s a consumer protection complaint. The sales tactics to get presale codes earned money but duped customers because they did NOT structure the presale as promised

Aside from the bots, what’s the issue? Buying merch doesn’t entitle you to anything.

The merch was supposed to entitle you to a code to a smoother presale. Not a presale that any rando with an email could get into. Everyone is responding to this like I’m personally complaining - I never even attempted the presale so it’s not about sour grapes. I am literally explaining to you why the Tennessee attorney general is investigating Ticketmaster for a consumer protections violation- the presale DID NOT WORK as it was supposed to and bilked people out of money for no return. I’m not even talking about return as in “good tickets.” I’m talking about return as in “was even able to get into the sale before bots and randoms did and bought everything.” They promised a presale and botched it.

But where did you see this? My daughter repeatedly told me that and then online I read it was for her last tour, not this one. I still waited over 4 hours, frantically clicked and paid more than I could have ever imagined I would pay. I wouldn’t call it easy.

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Anonymous wrote:I was waitlist for the verified fan but I have a cap1 card so thought I may have a chance. Logged in at 2 pm sharp and was already in 2000th place. Waited for 90 minutes to go through the queue and there was one ticket available for $750.00. Needed three tickets total so has to pass. Frustrated is an understatement.

This is an issue that is getting lost in the rightful anger at Ticketmaster being a corrupt monopoly with no meaningful competitor to encourage it practices ethical sales. The tickets were INSANELY priced and Taylor had control over that. There are very few fans, “verified” or not, who are going to be able to actually purchase tickets for $500-$800 which is what MOST of the available ticket pricing was for those who were even able to get into the purchase queue. Combine that with hours of frustrated waiting and not knowing if you’d get a chance to purchase, some people probably made impulsive decisions to buy whatever was available once they finally made it in knowing how competitive it was and are now sitting on $500 *nosebleed* seats. I fully understand she can’t put on a stadium tour for $49 tickets but I spent $180 for Reputation tickets and would’ve even considered $300 high but fair for a tour of this size in a post-Covid economy of inflation. But the ticket prices were ASTOUNDINGLY high, which either completely shut out a vast majority of her fans base who couldn’t spend that, or pushed people into making unwise financial choices by creating a scarcity model of purchasing.

All around it’s a shame. Ticketmaster bears the brunt but Taylor is also responsible for the insane ticket prices that enabled her to beat her own record of highest one day selling for a tour ever. It’s opportunistic and ensures that only the richest and most privileged have access to live music.

Very few fans can afford 500-800$ tickets yet 3 million tickets were sold. So I guess you're wrong.

Wrong about what?

You said at those prices very few fans could afford the tickets but apparently you are wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Guys YES it was luck and that’s the point - it wasn’t supposed to be: people PAID for the ease with which you got in and got tickets despite being absolute neophytes to how Taylor structures these ticket sales. That is why Ticketmaster is being investigated: it’s a consumer protection complaint. The sales tactics to get presale codes earned money but duped customers because they did NOT structure the presale as promised

Aside from the bots, what’s the issue? Buying merch doesn’t entitle you to anything.

The merch was supposed to entitle you to a code to a smoother presale. Not a presale that any rando with an email could get into. Everyone is responding to this like I’m personally complaining - I never even attempted the presale so it’s not about sour grapes. I am literally explaining to you why the Tennessee attorney general is investigating Ticketmaster for a consumer protections violation- the presale DID NOT WORK as it was supposed to and bilked people out of money for no return. I’m not even talking about return as in “good tickets.” I’m talking about return as in “was even able to get into the sale before bots and randoms did and bought everything.” They promised a presale and botched it.

A boost isn’t a guarantee and doesn’t put you in front of *everyone* else.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Guys YES it was luck and that’s the point - it wasn’t supposed to be: people PAID for the ease with which you got in and got tickets despite being absolute neophytes to how Taylor structures these ticket sales. That is why Ticketmaster is being investigated: it’s a consumer protection complaint. The sales tactics to get presale codes earned money but duped customers because they did NOT structure the presale as promised

Aside from the bots, what’s the issue? Buying merch doesn’t entitle you to anything.

The merch was supposed to entitle you to a code to a smoother presale. Not a presale that any rando with an email could get into. Everyone is responding to this like I’m personally complaining - I never even attempted the presale so it’s not about sour grapes. I am literally explaining to you why the Tennessee attorney general is investigating Ticketmaster for a consumer protections violation- the presale DID NOT WORK as it was supposed to and bilked people out of money for no return. I’m not even talking about return as in “good tickets.” I’m talking about return as in “was even able to get into the sale before bots and randoms did and bought everything.” They promised a presale and botched it.

It feels a little presumptuous that you called those that got tix neophytes, when you didn’t partake in the presale and also have incorrect info on how the verified fan process worked.

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Anonymous wrote:Guys YES it was luck and that’s the point - it wasn’t supposed to be: people PAID for the ease with which you got in and got tickets despite being absolute neophytes to how Taylor structures these ticket sales. That is why Ticketmaster is being investigated: it’s a consumer protection complaint. The sales tactics to get presale codes earned money but duped customers because they did NOT structure the presale as promised

Aside from the bots, what’s the issue? Buying merch doesn’t entitle you to anything.

The merch was supposed to entitle you to a code to a smoother presale. Not a presale that any rando with an email could get into. Everyone is responding to this like I’m personally complaining - I never even attempted the presale so it’s not about sour grapes. I am literally explaining to you why the Tennessee attorney general is investigating Ticketmaster for a consumer protections violation- the presale DID NOT WORK as it was supposed to and bilked people out of money for no return. I’m not even talking about return as in “good tickets.” I’m talking about return as in “was even able to get into the sale before bots and randoms did and bought everything.” They promised a presale and botched it.

It feels a little presumptuous that you called those that got tix neophytes, when you didn’t partake in the presale and also have incorrect info on how the verified fan process worked.

What else would you call someone who had never purchased Taylor tickets before and admits they signed up for the first time for this sale and somehow by luck got in? That’s basically the definition of neophyte

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Anonymous wrote:Guys YES it was luck and that’s the point - it wasn’t supposed to be: people PAID for the ease with which you got in and got tickets despite being absolute neophytes to how Taylor structures these ticket sales. That is why Ticketmaster is being investigated: it’s a consumer protection complaint. The sales tactics to get presale codes earned money but duped customers because they did NOT structure the presale as promised

Aside from the bots, what’s the issue? Buying merch doesn’t entitle you to anything.

The merch was supposed to entitle you to a code to a smoother presale. Not a presale that any rando with an email could get into. Everyone is responding to this like I’m personally complaining - I never even attempted the presale so it’s not about sour grapes. I am literally explaining to you why the Tennessee attorney general is investigating Ticketmaster for a consumer protections violation- the presale DID NOT WORK as it was supposed to and bilked people out of money for no return. I’m not even talking about return as in “good tickets.” I’m talking about return as in “was even able to get into the sale before bots and randoms did and bought everything.” They promised a presale and botched it.

But where did you see this? My daughter repeatedly told me that and then online I read it was for her last tour, not this one. I still waited over 4 hours, frantically clicked and paid more than I could have ever imagined I would pay. I wouldn’t call it easy.

The boosts for merch were for her last tour but if you had purchased for a past tour with the same registration info you had a better chance at getting a verified code. Same if you had purchased tickets for LoverFest, which got canceled - those tickets were supposed to get you an additional bump to getting the verified code. For some people they did, for some people they didn’t. Nobody is saying you had an easy experience, even if you got tickets - that’s why Ticketmaster is being investigated !! I swear none of you read what I am saying. The experience was bad AND DID NOT WORK- which is why Ticketmaster is being investigated for violating consumer protections .

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Anonymous wrote:Guys YES it was luck and that’s the point - it wasn’t supposed to be: people PAID for the ease with which you got in and got tickets despite being absolute neophytes to how Taylor structures these ticket sales. That is why Ticketmaster is being investigated: it’s a consumer protection complaint. The sales tactics to get presale codes earned money but duped customers because they did NOT structure the presale as promised

Aside from the bots, what’s the issue? Buying merch doesn’t entitle you to anything.

The merch was supposed to entitle you to a code to a smoother presale. Not a presale that any rando with an email could get into. Everyone is responding to this like I’m personally complaining - I never even attempted the presale so it’s not about sour grapes. I am literally explaining to you why the Tennessee attorney general is investigating Ticketmaster for a consumer protections violation- the presale DID NOT WORK as it was supposed to and bilked people out of money for no return. I’m not even talking about return as in “good tickets.” I’m talking about return as in “was even able to get into the sale before bots and randoms did and bought everything.” They promised a presale and botched it.

But where did you see this? My daughter repeatedly told me that and then online I read it was for her last tour, not this one. I still waited over 4 hours, frantically clicked and paid more than I could have ever imagined I would pay. I wouldn’t call it easy.

The boosts for merch were for her last tour but if you had purchased for a past tour with the same registration info you had a better chance at getting a verified code. Same if you had purchased tickets for LoverFest, which got canceled - those tickets were supposed to get you an additional bump to getting the verified code. For some people they did, for some people they didn’t. Nobody is saying you had an easy experience, even if you got tickets - that’s why Ticketmaster is being investigated !! I swear none of you read what I am saying. The experience was bad AND DID NOT WORK- which is why Ticketmaster is being investigated for violating consumer protections .

What did not work?

Every single person who bought merch (from the last tour? wth?) wasn’t guaranteed a spot in front of everyone else.

Bump/boost <> guarantee

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Guys YES it was luck and that’s the point - it wasn’t supposed to be: people PAID for the ease with which you got in and got tickets despite being absolute neophytes to how Taylor structures these ticket sales. That is why Ticketmaster is being investigated: it’s a consumer protection complaint. The sales tactics to get presale codes earned money but duped customers because they did NOT structure the presale as promised

Aside from the bots, what’s the issue? Buying merch doesn’t entitle you to anything.

The merch was supposed to entitle you to a code to a smoother presale. Not a presale that any rando with an email could get into. Everyone is responding to this like I’m personally complaining - I never even attempted the presale so it’s not about sour grapes. I am literally explaining to you why the Tennessee attorney general is investigating Ticketmaster for a consumer protections violation- the presale DID NOT WORK as it was supposed to and bilked people out of money for no return. I’m not even talking about return as in “good tickets.” I’m talking about return as in “was even able to get into the sale before bots and randoms did and bought everything.” They promised a presale and botched it.

But where did you see this? My daughter repeatedly told me that and then online I read it was for her last tour, not this one. I still waited over 4 hours, frantically clicked and paid more than I could have ever imagined I would pay. I wouldn’t call it easy.

The boosts for merch were for her last tour but if you had purchased for a past tour with the same registration info you had a better chance at getting a verified code. Same if you had purchased tickets for LoverFest, which got canceled - those tickets were supposed to get you an additional bump to getting the verified code. For some people they did, for some people they didn’t. Nobody is saying you had an easy experience, even if you got tickets - that’s why Ticketmaster is being investigated !! I swear none of you read what I am saying. The experience was bad AND DID NOT WORK- which is why Ticketmaster is being investigated for violating consumer protections .

You keep citing this but where did you see that on her website or email?

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Anonymous wrote:Guys YES it was luck and that’s the point - it wasn’t supposed to be: people PAID for the ease with which you got in and got tickets despite being absolute neophytes to how Taylor structures these ticket sales. That is why Ticketmaster is being investigated: it’s a consumer protection complaint. The sales tactics to get presale codes earned money but duped customers because they did NOT structure the presale as promised

Aside from the bots, what’s the issue? Buying merch doesn’t entitle you to anything.

The merch was supposed to entitle you to a code to a smoother presale. Not a presale that any rando with an email could get into. Everyone is responding to this like I’m personally complaining - I never even attempted the presale so it’s not about sour grapes. I am literally explaining to you why the Tennessee attorney general is investigating Ticketmaster for a consumer protections violation- the presale DID NOT WORK as it was supposed to and bilked people out of money for no return. I’m not even talking about return as in “good tickets.” I’m talking about return as in “was even able to get into the sale before bots and randoms did and bought everything.” They promised a presale and botched it.

But where did you see this? My daughter repeatedly told me that and then online I read it was for her last tour, not this one. I still waited over 4 hours, frantically clicked and paid more than I could have ever imagined I would pay. I wouldn’t call it easy.

The boosts for merch were for her last tour but if you had purchased for a past tour with the same registration info you had a better chance at getting a verified code. Same if you had purchased tickets for LoverFest, which got canceled - those tickets were supposed to get you an additional bump to getting the verified code. For some people they did, for some people they didn’t. Nobody is saying you had an easy experience, even if you got tickets - that’s why Ticketmaster is being investigated !! I swear none of you read what I am saying. The experience was bad AND DID NOT WORK- which is why Ticketmaster is being investigated for violating consumer protections .

What did not work?

Every single person who bought merch (from the last tour? wth?) wasn’t guaranteed a spot in front of everyone else.

Bump/boost <> guarantee

What DID NOT WORK was that only verfied fans WITH PRESALE CODES were supposed to be able to purchase tickets and they have admitted that did not happen. Bots and peopole without codes bought tickets. Also people bought tickets for shows they didn't have codes too. It was all a lie.

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Anonymous wrote:I love seeing all these UMC moms upset because they didn't get what they wanted and felt they deserved.

If they work as hard as my wife does, they do deserve it.

They got what they deserved. They were given a CHANCE. Having a code doesn't mean you're guaranteed a ticket, only a chance to try to get a ticket. 2.4 million people got tickets.

What you’re missing is that my code gave me no chance because it was a freaking setup! That’s the investigation. It was literally rigged against me and most others who had a magic code to misery. Have you ever clicked on something extremely expensive for an hour straight and gotten an error? It was at its core humiliating.

What they’re also missing is most people only got a code by spending more money on additional merch or previous Loverfest tickets OR by opening or having a Capital One credit card. So no, it’s not that people simply had a chance and didn’t get it. They spent additional money with the promise that that would give them a CODE ensuring they could access early sales and get tickets. They were duped into spending money with false promises about early access. It’s shady as hell.

Is that true? My daughter tried to tell me buying things would help chances but a quick internet search told me that wasn’t true. Several members of the family opened ticket master accounts just for this to get verified. Out of 6 people, we got 4 codes. One got through to get tickets. Interesting enough, my daughters account and the person who had a prior Ticketmaster account didn’t get the code.

Yes it’s true. Tons of people have Ticketmaster accounts, you have to have one to order tickets no matter what, so simply having a TM account wasn’t going to get you a verified code to get access to the presale. There were multiple ways to get one but they came down to having spent more on Taylor merch or tickets in the past or having a Capital One card or season passes to any of the stadiums. This is why people who were verified and had a code are especially pissed: they quite literally spent more money to have early access and early access was still such a mess they either didn’t get in because as PP says regular old accounts were somehow moving ahead in the queue or they got in after HOURS only to see nothing left or seats for $500+. It was a scam which is why the Tennessee AG is investigating Ticketmaster. It’s fraudulent.

As a data point, my DD and I bought merch before knowing that could help. We then got a special link for the sale that was supposed to be a “queue booster”. I think the booster did work for us. At some point around 2pm, my number in the queue went from stalled for hours at 2000+ to straight in. And we got tickets. I don’t disagree with an investigation, but I believe they tried to do what you describe. It just broke down and didn’t work. Incompetence isn’t fraud.

But you don’t know. That’s why TM is being investigated.

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Anonymous wrote:I love seeing all these UMC moms upset because they didn't get what they wanted and felt they deserved.

I got tickets for my daughter, however I am angry with the way this process was run and that people who really want to be at this show can't because TM allowed bots to snatch up the same tickets I paid $150 for and sell them for $1,000 a piece, which TM then profits from. That's wrong whether or not you got tickets and something should be done about it.

I listened to the new album and it seems to have some very mature themes now TS is in her 30s, as well as some rather adult language. Similar thing with Harry Styles. Does that give you pause? It seems that these singers have moved on from their teeniebopper phase, yet many of their fans are still very young listening to songs with very adult themes.

How do you define “very adult”?

I reared my children to have brains so they won’t drink just because TS mentioned alcohol a few times.

Would “very adult” themes include gun lovers glorifying guns more than Jesus? Because that’s what I notice. Certain people love their guns, Tweet about their guns, lie about who might take their guns, and take the nice green money from the NRA.

Violence seems a “very adult” theme and not songs from a singer who mentions champagne or wine.

A coup seems a very adult theme, especially a coup in which a president threatens to kill his Vice President. But that’s just me and what I care about. Threats of death and antisemitism and racism on Twitter and elsewhere bother me more than a Swift song. Crazy, I know.

DP. She said fcking a lot.

Violence is worse. Stochastic terrorism is worse.

If you want to take up a cause, get the crazy politicians to stop talking about shooting people. Using the f-word is nothing compared to trying to get people to be violent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Guys YES it was luck and that’s the point - it wasn’t supposed to be: people PAID for the ease with which you got in and got tickets despite being absolute neophytes to how Taylor structures these ticket sales. That is why Ticketmaster is being investigated: it’s a consumer protection complaint. The sales tactics to get presale codes earned money but duped customers because they did NOT structure the presale as promised

Aside from the bots, what’s the issue? Buying merch doesn’t entitle you to anything.

The merch was supposed to entitle you to a code to a smoother presale. Not a presale that any rando with an email could get into. Everyone is responding to this like I’m personally complaining - I never even attempted the presale so it’s not about sour grapes. I am literally explaining to you why the Tennessee attorney general is investigating Ticketmaster for a consumer protections violation- the presale DID NOT WORK as it was supposed to and bilked people out of money for no return. I’m not even talking about return as in “good tickets.” I’m talking about return as in “was even able to get into the sale before bots and randoms did and bought everything.” They promised a presale and botched it.

But where did you see this? My daughter repeatedly told me that and then online I read it was for her last tour, not this one. I still waited over 4 hours, frantically clicked and paid more than I could have ever imagined I would pay. I wouldn’t call it easy.

The boosts for merch were for her last tour but if you had purchased for a past tour with the same registration info you had a better chance at getting a verified code. Same if you had purchased tickets for LoverFest, which got canceled - those tickets were supposed to get you an additional bump to getting the verified code. For some people they did, for some people they didn’t. Nobody is saying you had an easy experience, even if you got tickets - that’s why Ticketmaster is being investigated !! I swear none of you read what I am saying. The experience was bad AND DID NOT WORK- which is why Ticketmaster is being investigated for violating consumer protections .

At this point, it sounds like you are having a giant temper tantrum because you feel you were entitled to tickets and couldn’t buy them. Do you remember the days of calling over and over again and getting the busy signal? Sometimes we never got through, no matter how bad we wanted them. Most of us understand that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Guys YES it was luck and that’s the point - it wasn’t supposed to be: people PAID for the ease with which you got in and got tickets despite being absolute neophytes to how Taylor structures these ticket sales. That is why Ticketmaster is being investigated: it’s a consumer protection complaint. The sales tactics to get presale codes earned money but duped customers because they did NOT structure the presale as promised

Aside from the bots, what’s the issue? Buying merch doesn’t entitle you to anything.

The merch was supposed to entitle you to a code to a smoother presale. Not a presale that any rando with an email could get into. Everyone is responding to this like I’m personally complaining - I never even attempted the presale so it’s not about sour grapes. I am literally explaining to you why the Tennessee attorney general is investigating Ticketmaster for a consumer protections violation- the presale DID NOT WORK as it was supposed to and bilked people out of money for no return. I’m not even talking about return as in “good tickets.” I’m talking about return as in “was even able to get into the sale before bots and randoms did and bought everything.” They promised a presale and botched it.

But where did you see this? My daughter repeatedly told me that and then online I read it was for her last tour, not this one. I still waited over 4 hours, frantically clicked and paid more than I could have ever imagined I would pay. I wouldn’t call it easy.

The boosts for merch were for her last tour but if you had purchased for a past tour with the same registration info you had a better chance at getting a verified code. Same if you had purchased tickets for LoverFest, which got canceled - those tickets were supposed to get you an additional bump to getting the verified code. For some people they did, for some people they didn’t. Nobody is saying you had an easy experience, even if you got tickets - that’s why Ticketmaster is being investigated !! I swear none of you read what I am saying. The experience was bad AND DID NOT WORK- which is why Ticketmaster is being investigated for violating consumer protections .

What did not work?

Every single person who bought merch (from the last tour? wth?) wasn’t guaranteed a spot in front of everyone else.

Bump/boost <> guarantee

What DID NOT WORK was that only verfied fans WITH PRESALE CODES were supposed to be able to purchase tickets and they have admitted that did not happen. Bots and peopole without codes bought tickets. Also people bought tickets for shows they didn't have codes too. It was all a lie.

“It was all a lie”. Dramatic much? What makes more sense is that systems failed. Something broke. It may have been incompetence, but I doubt anyone was purposefully trying to screw this up to bad. No one lied.

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Anonymous wrote:Guys YES it was luck and that’s the point - it wasn’t supposed to be: people PAID for the ease with which you got in and got tickets despite being absolute neophytes to how Taylor structures these ticket sales. That is why Ticketmaster is being investigated: it’s a consumer protection complaint. The sales tactics to get presale codes earned money but duped customers because they did NOT structure the presale as promised

Aside from the bots, what’s the issue? Buying merch doesn’t entitle you to anything.

The merch was supposed to entitle you to a code to a smoother presale. Not a presale that any rando with an email could get into. Everyone is responding to this like I’m personally complaining - I never even attempted the presale so it’s not about sour grapes. I am literally explaining to you why the Tennessee attorney general is investigating Ticketmaster for a consumer protections violation- the presale DID NOT WORK as it was supposed to and bilked people out of money for no return. I’m not even talking about return as in “good tickets.” I’m talking about return as in “was even able to get into the sale before bots and randoms did and bought everything.” They promised a presale and botched it.

But where did you see this? My daughter repeatedly told me that and then online I read it was for her last tour, not this one. I still waited over 4 hours, frantically clicked and paid more than I could have ever imagined I would pay. I wouldn’t call it easy.

The boosts for merch were for her last tour but if you had purchased for a past tour with the same registration info you had a better chance at getting a verified code. Same if you had purchased tickets for LoverFest, which got canceled - those tickets were supposed to get you an additional bump to getting the verified code. For some people they did, for some people they didn’t. Nobody is saying you had an easy experience, even if you got tickets - that’s why Ticketmaster is being investigated !! I swear none of you read what I am saying. The experience was bad AND DID NOT WORK- which is why Ticketmaster is being investigated for violating consumer protections .

What did not work?

Every single person who bought merch (from the last tour? wth?) wasn’t guaranteed a spot in front of everyone else.

Bump/boost <> guarantee

What DID NOT WORK was that only verfied fans WITH PRESALE CODES were supposed to be able to purchase tickets and they have admitted that did not happen. Bots and peopole without codes bought tickets. Also people bought tickets for shows they didn't have codes too. It was all a lie.

“It was all a lie”. Dramatic much? What makes more sense is that systems failed. Something broke. It may have been incompetence, but I doubt anyone was purposefully trying to screw this up to bad. No one lied.

It wasn't a lie. It's called marketing. They hyped this up so that everyone wanted in and everyone, even those who weren't supposed to be there, tried to get in and now tickets are selling for an exorbitant price and Taylor, TM, stubhub and others will keep raking it in as a result. Is it fair? No.Is it right? No. But, this is all about $$$$ and marketing. This experience exposed TM for what it is--a money making machine that doesn't care whether or not you had a presale code. Unfortunately, the ones who lose out are the fans and it does suck because live music should be attainable to everyone and not just those who have the privilege of having a certain type of credit card or the time to sit on a computer all day.

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Anonymous wrote:Guys YES it was luck and that’s the point - it wasn’t supposed to be: people PAID for the ease with which you got in and got tickets despite being absolute neophytes to how Taylor structures these ticket sales. That is why Ticketmaster is being investigated: it’s a consumer protection complaint. The sales tactics to get presale codes earned money but duped customers because they did NOT structure the presale as promised

Aside from the bots, what’s the issue? Buying merch doesn’t entitle you to anything.

The merch was supposed to entitle you to a code to a smoother presale. Not a presale that any rando with an email could get into. Everyone is responding to this like I’m personally complaining - I never even attempted the presale so it’s not about sour grapes. I am literally explaining to you why the Tennessee attorney general is investigating Ticketmaster for a consumer protections violation- the presale DID NOT WORK as it was supposed to and bilked people out of money for no return. I’m not even talking about return as in “good tickets.” I’m talking about return as in “was even able to get into the sale before bots and randoms did and bought everything.” They promised a presale and botched it.

But where did you see this? My daughter repeatedly told me that and then online I read it was for her last tour, not this one. I still waited over 4 hours, frantically clicked and paid more than I could have ever imagined I would pay. I wouldn’t call it easy.

The boosts for merch were for her last tour but if you had purchased for a past tour with the same registration info you had a better chance at getting a verified code. Same if you had purchased tickets for LoverFest, which got canceled - those tickets were supposed to get you an additional bump to getting the verified code. For some people they did, for some people they didn’t. Nobody is saying you had an easy experience, even if you got tickets - that’s why Ticketmaster is being investigated !! I swear none of you read what I am saying. The experience was bad AND DID NOT WORK- which is why Ticketmaster is being investigated for violating consumer protections .

At this point, it sounds like you are having a giant temper tantrum because you feel you were entitled to tickets and couldn’t buy them. Do you remember the days of calling over and over again and getting the busy signal? Sometimes we never got through, no matter how bad we wanted them. Most of us understand that.

Yes so many temper tantrums and I truly wonder if the reaction would be the same for a dude band. TSwift can't win here. Remember the mom on this thread who wrote that her daughter is devastated to realize that Taylor is not her friend, but rather a businesswoman. Jeez. They want a superstar but expect to be treated like a BFF throughout this ticket buying process for one of the most popular tours. You can't have it all.