Taylor Swift Tour

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Anonymous wrote:I love seeing all these UMC moms upset because they didn't get what they wanted and felt they deserved.

If they work as hard as my wife does, they do deserve it.

They got what they deserved. They were given a CHANCE. Having a code doesn't mean you're guaranteed a ticket, only a chance to try to get a ticket. 2.4 million people got tickets.

What you’re missing is that my code gave me no chance because it was a freaking setup! That’s the investigation. It was literally rigged against me and most others who had a magic code to misery. Have you ever clicked on something extremely expensive for an hour straight and gotten an error? It was at its core humiliating.

What they’re also missing is most people only got a code by spending more money on additional merch or previous Loverfest tickets OR by opening or having a Capital One credit card. So no, it’s not that people simply had a chance and didn’t get it. They spent additional money with the promise that that would give them a CODE ensuring they could access early sales and get tickets. They were duped into spending money with false promises about early access. It’s shady as hell.

Is that true? My daughter tried to tell me buying things would help chances but a quick internet search told me that wasn’t true. Several members of the family opened ticket master accounts just for this to get verified. Out of 6 people, we got 4 codes. One got through to get tickets. Interesting enough, my daughters account and the person who had a prior Ticketmaster account didn’t get the code.

Yes it’s true. Tons of people have Ticketmaster accounts, you have to have one to order tickets no matter what, so simply having a TM account wasn’t going to get you a verified code to get access to the presale. There were multiple ways to get one but they came down to having spent more on Taylor merch or tickets in the past or having a Capital One card or season passes to any of the stadiums. This is why people who were verified and had a code are especially pissed: they quite literally spent more money to have early access and early access was still such a mess they either didn’t get in because as PP says regular old accounts were somehow moving ahead in the queue or they got in after HOURS only to see nothing left or seats for $500+. It was a scam which is why the Tennessee AG is investigating Ticketmaster. It’s fraudulent.

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Anonymous wrote:I love seeing all these UMC moms upset because they didn't get what they wanted and felt they deserved.

If they work as hard as my wife does, they do deserve it.

They got what they deserved. They were given a CHANCE. Having a code doesn't mean you're guaranteed a ticket, only a chance to try to get a ticket. 2.4 million people got tickets.

What you’re missing is that my code gave me no chance because it was a freaking setup! That’s the investigation. It was literally rigged against me and most others who had a magic code to misery. Have you ever clicked on something extremely expensive for an hour straight and gotten an error? It was at its core humiliating.

What they’re also missing is most people only got a code by spending more money on additional merch or previous Loverfest tickets OR by opening or having a Capital One credit card. So no, it’s not that people simply had a chance and didn’t get it. They spent additional money with the promise that that would give them a CODE ensuring they could access early sales and get tickets. They were duped into spending money with false promises about early access. It’s shady as hell.

Is that true? My daughter tried to tell me buying things would help chances but a quick internet search told me that wasn’t true. Several members of the family opened ticket master accounts just for this to get verified. Out of 6 people, we got 4 codes. One got through to get tickets. Interesting enough, my daughters account and the person who had a prior Ticketmaster account didn’t get the code.

Yes it’s true. Tons of people have Ticketmaster accounts, you have to have one to order tickets no matter what, so simply having a TM account wasn’t going to get you a verified code to get access to the presale. There were multiple ways to get one but they came down to having spent more on Taylor merch or tickets in the past or having a Capital One card or season passes to any of the stadiums. This is why people who were verified and had a code are especially pissed: they quite literally spent more money to have early access and early access was still such a mess they either didn’t get in because as PP says regular old accounts were somehow moving ahead in the queue or they got in after HOURS only to see nothing left or seats for $500+. It was a scam which is why the Tennessee AG is investigating Ticketmaster. It’s fraudulent.

As a data point, my DD and I bought merch before knowing that could help. We then got a special link for the sale that was supposed to be a “queue booster”. I think the booster did work for us. At some point around 2pm, my number in the queue went from stalled for hours at 2000+ to straight in. And we got tickets. I don’t disagree with an investigation, but I believe they tried to do what you describe. It just broke down and didn’t work. Incompetence isn’t fraud.

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Anonymous wrote:I love seeing all these UMC moms upset because they didn't get what they wanted and felt they deserved.

If they work as hard as my wife does, they do deserve it.

They got what they deserved. They were given a CHANCE. Having a code doesn't mean you're guaranteed a ticket, only a chance to try to get a ticket. 2.4 million people got tickets.

What you’re missing is that my code gave me no chance because it was a freaking setup! That’s the investigation. It was literally rigged against me and most others who had a magic code to misery. Have you ever clicked on something extremely expensive for an hour straight and gotten an error? It was at its core humiliating.

What they’re also missing is most people only got a code by spending more money on additional merch or previous Loverfest tickets OR by opening or having a Capital One credit card. So no, it’s not that people simply had a chance and didn’t get it. They spent additional money with the promise that that would give them a CODE ensuring they could access early sales and get tickets. They were duped into spending money with false promises about early access. It’s shady as hell.

Is that true? My daughter tried to tell me buying things would help chances but a quick internet search told me that wasn’t true. Several members of the family opened ticket master accounts just for this to get verified. Out of 6 people, we got 4 codes. One got through to get tickets. Interesting enough, my daughters account and the person who had a prior Ticketmaster account didn’t get the code.

Yes it’s true. Tons of people have Ticketmaster accounts, you have to have one to order tickets no matter what, so simply having a TM account wasn’t going to get you a verified code to get access to the presale. There were multiple ways to get one but they came down to having spent more on Taylor merch or tickets in the past or having a Capital One card or season passes to any of the stadiums. This is why people who were verified and had a code are especially pissed: they quite literally spent more money to have early access and early access was still such a mess they either didn’t get in because as PP says regular old accounts were somehow moving ahead in the queue or they got in after HOURS only to see nothing left or seats for $500+. It was a scam which is why the Tennessee AG is investigating Ticketmaster. It’s fraudulent.

As a data point, my DD and I bought merch before knowing that could help. We then got a special link for the sale that was supposed to be a “queue booster”. I think the booster did work for us. At some point around 2pm, my number in the queue went from stalled for hours at 2000+ to straight in. And we got tickets. I don’t disagree with an investigation, but I believe they tried to do what you describe. It just broke down and didn’t work. Incompetence isn’t fraud.

I am the poster asking if it was true. All I meant is that I never bought anything, never even a ticket from TM. The people in the family that just opened TM accounts to get verified and had never bought anything, tickets or things from the Taylor Swift website, were the ones that got codes. I also got through at 2 and was able to purchase tickets.

I don’t think there was anything here other than luck. No boosts and we were all fighting bots.

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It was luck.

I have a TM account but hadn't used it in several years. Never have paid a penny for anything TS-related. Registered as a verified fan because DD wanted to go. After lots of misfires, did finally get tickets on Tuesday afternoon.

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Agree that it was luck. I also got tickets. I do purchase a lot of tickets but don’t think that had anything to do with it.

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Guys YES it was luck and that’s the point - it wasn’t supposed to be: people PAID for the ease with which you got in and got tickets despite being absolute neophytes to how Taylor structures these ticket sales. That is why Ticketmaster is being investigated: it’s a consumer protection complaint. The sales tactics to get presale codes earned money but duped customers because they did NOT structure the presale as promised

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Anonymous wrote:Verified fans should have used 2-factor authentication w/the cell phone used.

And only do one city at a time or smaller batches.

This. They needed to screen people before one could join the queue, not after, so that traffic would not have bee that heavy. Waiting in a queue all day only to see tickets disappear and be left empty handed or with 1-2 tickets when you needed 4 or with nosebleed tickets when you were ready to pay for floor seats is beyond frustrating.

Waaaaaaaa

You thought just because you have lots of money, you should get what you want (sorry, needed). This dose of reality is just too much for you to comprehend and it's hilarious.

NP. You're so bitter because you're poor. It's not a good look, above PP. It's already been stated on here a million times why it's an unethical situation. Coming in here to poop on people who can afford the tickets and went through the process (which was flawed) is pathetic. Maybe go to the Money and Finances forum to gain knowledge that can improve your situation?

NP. You're so bitter because you didn't get any tickets and many of us did. Sorry not sorry . You presume that this PP is poor which is odd. They were just pointing out the hilarious reality of people that feel entitled to these tickets. Better luck at her next tour, sour grapes!

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Anonymous wrote:Guys YES it was luck and that’s the point - it wasn’t supposed to be: people PAID for the ease with which you got in and got tickets despite being absolute neophytes to how Taylor structures these ticket sales. That is why Ticketmaster is being investigated: it’s a consumer protection complaint. The sales tactics to get presale codes earned money but duped customers because they did NOT structure the presale as promised

It wasn’t easy? I spent hours and had to be able to navigate the Ticketmaster website quickly and went for seats I probably would think twice about on a regular day. I don’t know why you thought that buying more merch would get you a boost. It seemed like if you bought a vinyl, they said you’d get a slight boost but nothing like the Reputation tour.

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Anonymous wrote:Guys YES it was luck and that’s the point - it wasn’t supposed to be: people PAID for the ease with which you got in and got tickets despite being absolute neophytes to how Taylor structures these ticket sales. That is why Ticketmaster is being investigated: it’s a consumer protection complaint. The sales tactics to get presale codes earned money but duped customers because they did NOT structure the presale as promised

Aside from the bots, what’s the issue? Buying merch doesn’t entitle you to anything.

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Anonymous wrote:Guys YES it was luck and that’s the point - it wasn’t supposed to be: people PAID for the ease with which you got in and got tickets despite being absolute neophytes to how Taylor structures these ticket sales. That is why Ticketmaster is being investigated: it’s a consumer protection complaint. The sales tactics to get presale codes earned money but duped customers because they did NOT structure the presale as promised

Aside from the bots, what’s the issue? Buying merch doesn’t entitle you to anything.

Based on the # of resale tickets, I don’t think it was a lot of bots. I think there was just insanely high demand

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We got two presale codes and did not buy anything. But we were not able to purchase tickets despite putting tons in our carts.

My friend who had tickets to the 2020 show that was canceled is especially pissed she didn't get tickets.

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Anonymous wrote:Guys YES it was luck and that’s the point - it wasn’t supposed to be: people PAID for the ease with which you got in and got tickets despite being absolute neophytes to how Taylor structures these ticket sales. That is why Ticketmaster is being investigated: it’s a consumer protection complaint. The sales tactics to get presale codes earned money but duped customers because they did NOT structure the presale as promised

Aside from the bots, what’s the issue? Buying merch doesn’t entitle you to anything.

The merch was supposed to entitle you to a code to a smoother presale. Not a presale that any rando with an email could get into. Everyone is responding to this like I’m personally complaining - I never even attempted the presale so it’s not about sour grapes. I am literally explaining to you why the Tennessee attorney general is investigating Ticketmaster for a consumer protections violation- the presale DID NOT WORK as it was supposed to and bilked people out of money for no return. I’m not even talking about return as in “good tickets.” I’m talking about return as in “was even able to get into the sale before bots and randoms did and bought everything.” They promised a presale and botched it.

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Anonymous wrote:I was waitlist for the verified fan but I have a cap1 card so thought I may have a chance. Logged in at 2 pm sharp and was already in 2000th place. Waited for 90 minutes to go through the queue and there was one ticket available for $750.00. Needed three tickets total so has to pass. Frustrated is an understatement.

This is an issue that is getting lost in the rightful anger at Ticketmaster being a corrupt monopoly with no meaningful competitor to encourage it practices ethical sales. The tickets were INSANELY priced and Taylor had control over that. There are very few fans, “verified” or not, who are going to be able to actually purchase tickets for $500-$800 which is what MOST of the available ticket pricing was for those who were even able to get into the purchase queue. Combine that with hours of frustrated waiting and not knowing if you’d get a chance to purchase, some people probably made impulsive decisions to buy whatever was available once they finally made it in knowing how competitive it was and are now sitting on $500 *nosebleed* seats. I fully understand she can’t put on a stadium tour for $49 tickets but I spent $180 for Reputation tickets and would’ve even considered $300 high but fair for a tour of this size in a post-Covid economy of inflation. But the ticket prices were ASTOUNDINGLY high, which either completely shut out a vast majority of her fans base who couldn’t spend that, or pushed people into making unwise financial choices by creating a scarcity model of purchasing.

All around it’s a shame. Ticketmaster bears the brunt but Taylor is also responsible for the insane ticket prices that enabled her to beat her own record of highest one day selling for a tour ever. It’s opportunistic and ensures that only the richest and most privileged have access to live music.

Very few fans can afford 500-800$ tickets yet 3 million tickets were sold. So I guess you're wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:I was waitlist for the verified fan but I have a cap1 card so thought I may have a chance. Logged in at 2 pm sharp and was already in 2000th place. Waited for 90 minutes to go through the queue and there was one ticket available for $750.00. Needed three tickets total so has to pass. Frustrated is an understatement.

This is an issue that is getting lost in the rightful anger at Ticketmaster being a corrupt monopoly with no meaningful competitor to encourage it practices ethical sales. The tickets were INSANELY priced and Taylor had control over that. There are very few fans, “verified” or not, who are going to be able to actually purchase tickets for $500-$800 which is what MOST of the available ticket pricing was for those who were even able to get into the purchase queue. Combine that with hours of frustrated waiting and not knowing if you’d get a chance to purchase, some people probably made impulsive decisions to buy whatever was available once they finally made it in knowing how competitive it was and are now sitting on $500 *nosebleed* seats. I fully understand she can’t put on a stadium tour for $49 tickets but I spent $180 for Reputation tickets and would’ve even considered $300 high but fair for a tour of this size in a post-Covid economy of inflation. But the ticket prices were ASTOUNDINGLY high, which either completely shut out a vast majority of her fans base who couldn’t spend that, or pushed people into making unwise financial choices by creating a scarcity model of purchasing.

All around it’s a shame. Ticketmaster bears the brunt but Taylor is also responsible for the insane ticket prices that enabled her to beat her own record of highest one day selling for a tour ever. It’s opportunistic and ensures that only the richest and most privileged have access to live music.

Very few fans can afford 500-800$ tickets yet 3 million tickets were sold. So I guess you're wrong.

Wrong about what?

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Anonymous wrote:I was waitlist for the verified fan but I have a cap1 card so thought I may have a chance. Logged in at 2 pm sharp and was already in 2000th place. Waited for 90 minutes to go through the queue and there was one ticket available for $750.00. Needed three tickets total so has to pass. Frustrated is an understatement.

This is an issue that is getting lost in the rightful anger at Ticketmaster being a corrupt monopoly with no meaningful competitor to encourage it practices ethical sales. The tickets were INSANELY priced and Taylor had control over that. There are very few fans, “verified” or not, who are going to be able to actually purchase tickets for $500-$800 which is what MOST of the available ticket pricing was for those who were even able to get into the purchase queue. Combine that with hours of frustrated waiting and not knowing if you’d get a chance to purchase, some people probably made impulsive decisions to buy whatever was available once they finally made it in knowing how competitive it was and are now sitting on $500 *nosebleed* seats. I fully understand she can’t put on a stadium tour for $49 tickets but I spent $180 for Reputation tickets and would’ve even considered $300 high but fair for a tour of this size in a post-Covid economy of inflation. But the ticket prices were ASTOUNDINGLY high, which either completely shut out a vast majority of her fans base who couldn’t spend that, or pushed people into making unwise financial choices by creating a scarcity model of purchasing.

All around it’s a shame. Ticketmaster bears the brunt but Taylor is also responsible for the insane ticket prices that enabled her to beat her own record of highest one day selling for a tour ever. It’s opportunistic and ensures that only the richest and most privileged have access to live music.

Very few fans can afford 500-800$ tickets yet 3 million tickets were sold. So I guess you're wrong.

Also there were plenty of cheaper tickets they just got snapped up quickly. The only tickets that were over $500 face value before fees were VIP packages with merch. I got some 300 level tickets at face value and they were $134.