Hilaria Baldwin - At it again

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Actually, if that is accurate, it means she's also a racist. She doesn't want "brown" peasant Mestizo tier Latina status, she wants to steal "white" sophisticated European Spanish clout and profit off appealing to brown Latin-Americans (advertising, marketability).

How is it racist to not try to pretend you're a POC when you're not? She's not Rachel Dolezal

Things took a weird turn from her Latina cosplaying to hook Alec to her self-pitying I understand the struggle because people think I'm the nanny and I just want my kids to know the culture of me, their brown-skinned mother.

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Actually, if that is accurate, it means she's also a racist. She doesn't want "brown" peasant Mestizo tier Latina status, she wants to steal "white" sophisticated European Spanish clout and profit off appealing to brown Latin-Americans (advertising, marketability).

How is it racist to not try to pretend you're a POC when you're not? She's not Rachel Dolezal

Things took a weird turn from her Latina cosplaying to hook Alec to her self-pitying I understand the struggle because people think I'm the nanny and I just want my kids to know the culture of me, their brown-skinned mother.

I don't think anyone has a personal vendetta. I think Hilaria is doing something very very wrong, but I also don't like the comments that are super mean and worse, not provable. The cultural appropriation and lies can be proven. This other tomfoolery about her being on here as well as some NYU stuff was ridiculous. Stick to the fact and the very clear evidence.

[Anonymous]

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Actually, if that is accurate, it means she's also a racist. She doesn't want "brown" peasant Mestizo tier Latina status, she wants to steal "white" sophisticated European Spanish clout and profit off appealing to brown Latin-Americans (advertising, marketability).

How is it racist to not try to pretend you're a POC when you're not? She's not Rachel Dolezal

Things took a weird turn from her Latina cosplaying to hook Alec to her self-pitying I understand the struggle because people think I'm the nanny and I just want my kids to know the culture of me, their brown-skinned mother.

BINGO!

[Anonymous]

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That’s an entirely different conversation. Also she’s not claiming to be Latin American, shes claiming a white European origin. This thread was conceived as a rich lady being addicted to birthing, after multiple miscarriages.

Yeah I think Hilaria is psycho and a 100% phony but I really don't get the argument that she has tried to capitalize from any ethnicity or Hispanic-ness or has taken anything from women of color when she's not one. She has lied about nationality, but she never claimed some minority status or that she was anything but white. If anything, her attempts to seem Spanish are to add a more "sophisticated" European flare to herself when she's just a "boring" American.

I say this as a born and bred Latina. Her lying is nuts, but it's a stretch to be upset that she is taking anything from or hurting others because of it.

Actually, if that is accurate, it means she's also a racist. She doesn't want "brown" peasant Mestizo tier Latina status, she wants to steal "white" sophisticated European Spanish clout and profit off appealing to brown Latin-Americans (advertising, marketability).

How is it racist to not try to pretend you're a POC when you're not? She's not Rachel Dolezal

She does pretend she's a POC! She said she's mistaken for a brown nanny, she acts as if her arm is brown compared to her kids! It's like Rachel Dolezal having a baby with a Swedish guy and acting shocked the kid didn't come out with kinky African hair!

[Anonymous]

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That’s an entirely different conversation. Also she’s not claiming to be Latin American, shes claiming a white European origin. This thread was conceived as a rich lady being addicted to birthing, after multiple miscarriages.

Yeah I think Hilaria is psycho and a 100% phony but I really don't get the argument that she has tried to capitalize from any ethnicity or Hispanic-ness or has taken anything from women of color when she's not one. She has lied about nationality, but she never claimed some minority status or that she was anything but white. If anything, her attempts to seem Spanish are to add a more "sophisticated" European flare to herself when she's just a "boring" American.

I say this as a born and bred Latina. Her lying is nuts, but it's a stretch to be upset that she is taking anything from or hurting others because of it.

Actually, if that is accurate, it means she's also a racist. She doesn't want "brown" peasant Mestizo tier Latina status, she wants to steal "white" sophisticated European Spanish clout and profit off appealing to brown Latin-Americans (advertising, marketability).

How is it racist to not try to pretend you're a POC when you're not? She's not Rachel Dolezal

She does pretend she's a POC! She said she's mistaken for a brown nanny, she acts as if her arm is brown compared to her kids! It's like Rachel Dolezal having a baby with a Swedish guy and acting shocked the kid didn't come out with kinky African hair!

Sounds like other people think she's a POC. Don't we hate it when people make assumptions about our relationship to our kids? Or that speaking a language other than English means you're the nanny? She's raising her kids to be bilingual. All the power to her. More people should do the same then maybe bystanders wouldn't make such idiotic statements.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
Actually, if that is accurate, it means she's also a racist. She doesn't want "brown" peasant Mestizo tier Latina status, she wants to steal "white" sophisticated European Spanish clout and profit off appealing to brown Latin-Americans (advertising, marketability).

How is it racist to not try to pretend you're a POC when you're not? She's not Rachel Dolezal

Things took a weird turn from her Latina cosplaying to hook Alec to her self-pitying I understand the struggle because people think I'm the nanny and I just want my kids to know the culture of me, their brown-skinned mother.

I don't think anyone has a personal vendetta. I think Hilaria is doing something very very wrong, but I also don't like the comments that are super mean and worse, not provable. The cultural appropriation and lies can be proven. This other tomfoolery about her being on here as well as some NYU stuff was ridiculous. Stick to the fact and the very clear evidence.

Yeah that’s the thing with all of the mean comments. There’s plenty crazy about this whole story without having to be mean about it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Actually, if that is accurate, it means she's also a racist. She doesn't want "brown" peasant Mestizo tier Latina status, she wants to steal "white" sophisticated European Spanish clout and profit off appealing to brown Latin-Americans (advertising, marketability).

How is it racist to not try to pretend you're a POC when you're not? She's not Rachel Dolezal

Things took a weird turn from her Latina cosplaying to hook Alec to her self-pitying I understand the struggle because people think I'm the nanny and I just want my kids to know the culture of me, their brown-skinned mother.

I don't think anyone has a personal vendetta. I think Hilaria is doing something very very wrong, but I also don't like the comments that are super mean and worse, not provable. The cultural appropriation and lies can be proven. This other tomfoolery about her being on here as well as some NYU stuff was ridiculous. Stick to the fact and the very clear evidence.

Yeah that’s the thing with all of the mean comments. There’s plenty crazy about this whole story without having to be mean about it.

So where are the Spaniards who are upset about her appropriating their culture? Sounds like a lot of busybodies in here pretending to be offended on their behalf because they don't like Hilaria.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
Actually, if that is accurate, it means she's also a racist. She doesn't want "brown" peasant Mestizo tier Latina status, she wants to steal "white" sophisticated European Spanish clout and profit off appealing to brown Latin-Americans (advertising, marketability).

How is it racist to not try to pretend you're a POC when you're not? She's not Rachel Dolezal

Things took a weird turn from her Latina cosplaying to hook Alec to her self-pitying I understand the struggle because people think I'm the nanny and I just want my kids to know the culture of me, their brown-skinned mother.

I don't think anyone has a personal vendetta. I think Hilaria is doing something very very wrong, but I also don't like the comments that are super mean and worse, not provable. The cultural appropriation and lies can be proven. This other tomfoolery about her being on here as well as some NYU stuff was ridiculous. Stick to the fact and the very clear evidence.

Yeah that’s the thing with all of the mean comments. There’s plenty crazy about this whole story without having to be mean about it.

So where are the Spaniards who are upset about her appropriating their culture? Sounds like a lot of busybodies in here pretending to be offended on their behalf because they don't like Hilaria.

That is an interesting question. Of course, this discussion is in English and most of the information about her real background is only available on English-language websites. So I doubt this is widely known in Spain. I also don't think that Hilaria is actually well known in Spain, perhaps with the exception of Mallorca. There isn't a lot of coverage of her in the Spanish media.

But re: "busybodies being offended on their behalf" - are you saying it is OK for anyone to claim a citizenship or nationality which they don't have? Could I start speaking in an Italian accent tomorrow and build an identity around being "from Italy" even though I didn't grow up there and have no family roots there? And then I could start building a brand around that? Maybe that will be my pandemic project. I'll come out of covid as an Italian!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Actually, if that is accurate, it means she's also a racist. She doesn't want "brown" peasant Mestizo tier Latina status, she wants to steal "white" sophisticated European Spanish clout and profit off appealing to brown Latin-Americans (advertising, marketability).

How is it racist to not try to pretend you're a POC when you're not? She's not Rachel Dolezal

Things took a weird turn from her Latina cosplaying to hook Alec to her self-pitying I understand the struggle because people think I'm the nanny and I just want my kids to know the culture of me, their brown-skinned mother.

I don't think anyone has a personal vendetta. I think Hilaria is doing something very very wrong, but I also don't like the comments that are super mean and worse, not provable. The cultural appropriation and lies can be proven. This other tomfoolery about her being on here as well as some NYU stuff was ridiculous. Stick to the fact and the very clear evidence.

Yeah that’s the thing with all of the mean comments. There’s plenty crazy about this whole story without having to be mean about it.

So where are the Spaniards who are upset about her appropriating their culture? Sounds like a lot of busybodies in here pretending to be offended on their behalf because they don't like Hilaria.

That is an interesting question. Of course, this discussion is in English and most of the information about her real background is only available on English-language websites. So I doubt this is widely known in Spain. I also don't think that Hilaria is actually well known in Spain, perhaps with the exception of Mallorca. There isn't a lot of coverage of her in the Spanish media.

But re: "busybodies being offended on their behalf" - are you saying it is OK for anyone to claim a citizenship or nationality which they don't have? Could I start speaking in an Italian accent tomorrow and build an identity around being "from Italy" even though I didn't grow up there and have no family roots there? And then I could start building a brand around that? Maybe that will be my pandemic project. I'll come out of covid as an Italian!

To me it’s no different someone claiming to be Jesus. It only speaks to the individuals mental health. This is really a non story. She’s a kook. A rich underwear workout selfie making kook.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Actually, if that is accurate, it means she's also a racist. She doesn't want "brown" peasant Mestizo tier Latina status, she wants to steal "white" sophisticated European Spanish clout and profit off appealing to brown Latin-Americans (advertising, marketability).

How is it racist to not try to pretend you're a POC when you're not? She's not Rachel Dolezal

Things took a weird turn from her Latina cosplaying to hook Alec to her self-pitying I understand the struggle because people think I'm the nanny and I just want my kids to know the culture of me, their brown-skinned mother.

I don't think anyone has a personal vendetta. I think Hilaria is doing something very very wrong, but I also don't like the comments that are super mean and worse, not provable. The cultural appropriation and lies can be proven. This other tomfoolery about her being on here as well as some NYU stuff was ridiculous. Stick to the fact and the very clear evidence.

Yeah that’s the thing with all of the mean comments. There’s plenty crazy about this whole story without having to be mean about it.

So where are the Spaniards who are upset about her appropriating their culture? Sounds like a lot of busybodies in here pretending to be offended on their behalf because they don't like Hilaria.

That is an interesting question. Of course, this discussion is in English and most of the information about her real background is only available on English-language websites. So I doubt this is widely known in Spain. I also don't think that Hilaria is actually well known in Spain, perhaps with the exception of Mallorca. There isn't a lot of coverage of her in the Spanish media.

But re: "busybodies being offended on their behalf" - are you saying it is OK for anyone to claim a citizenship or nationality which they don't have? Could I start speaking in an Italian accent tomorrow and build an identity around being "from Italy" even though I didn't grow up there and have no family roots there? And then I could start building a brand around that? Maybe that will be my pandemic project. I'll come out of covid as an Italian!

To me it’s no different someone claiming to be Jesus. It only speaks to the individuals mental health. This is really a non story. She’s a kook. A rich underwear workout selfie making kook.

She spends time in Spain, likes the culture, her mother lives in Spain, she speaks the language, and may even have dual citizenship. Who decides when someone can claim an identity or nationality? You're not Spanish, so you're not the arbiter of this and don't have a horse in the race. Give it up, this is just a nothingburger.

[Anonymous]

Should probably out the thread under “unpopular opinion” or something where it will be seen

[Anonymous]

I'm a 40yo white woman who was in the Peace Corps in Africa. I adore the culture, I can even speak a little Swahili. I'm going to call myself and my white kids African-American moving forward.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Actually, if that is accurate, it means she's also a racist. She doesn't want "brown" peasant Mestizo tier Latina status, she wants to steal "white" sophisticated European Spanish clout and profit off appealing to brown Latin-Americans (advertising, marketability).

How is it racist to not try to pretend you're a POC when you're not? She's not Rachel Dolezal

Things took a weird turn from her Latina cosplaying to hook Alec to her self-pitying I understand the struggle because people think I'm the nanny and I just want my kids to know the culture of me, their brown-skinned mother.

I don't think anyone has a personal vendetta. I think Hilaria is doing something very very wrong, but I also don't like the comments that are super mean and worse, not provable. The cultural appropriation and lies can be proven. This other tomfoolery about her being on here as well as some NYU stuff was ridiculous. Stick to the fact and the very clear evidence.

Yeah that’s the thing with all of the mean comments. There’s plenty crazy about this whole story without having to be mean about it.

So where are the Spaniards who are upset about her appropriating their culture? Sounds like a lot of busybodies in here pretending to be offended on their behalf because they don't like Hilaria.

That is an interesting question. Of course, this discussion is in English and most of the information about her real background is only available on English-language websites. So I doubt this is widely known in Spain. I also don't think that Hilaria is actually well known in Spain, perhaps with the exception of Mallorca. There isn't a lot of coverage of her in the Spanish media.

But re: "busybodies being offended on their behalf" - are you saying it is OK for anyone to claim a citizenship or nationality which they don't have? Could I start speaking in an Italian accent tomorrow and build an identity around being "from Italy" even though I didn't grow up there and have no family roots there? And then I could start building a brand around that? Maybe that will be my pandemic project. I'll come out of covid as an Italian!

To me it’s no different someone claiming to be Jesus. It only speaks to the individuals mental health. This is really a non story. She’s a kook. A rich underwear workout selfie making kook.

She spends time in Spain, likes the culture, her mother lives in Spain, she speaks the language, and may even have dual citizenship. Who decides when someone can claim an identity or nationality? You're not Spanish, so you're not the arbiter of this and don't have a horse in the race. Give it up, this is just a nothingburger.

NP. Changing your name, faking an accent and that you can’t remember an English word when English was your first language, naming all of your 100% non-Spanish kids Spanish names, and all of her other bizarre choices are pathologically weird and people are going to talk about it because it’s interesting to talk about. If you don’t want to, then don’t!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a 40yo white woman who was in the Peace Corps in Africa. I adore the culture, I can even speak a little Swahili. I'm going to call myself and my white kids African-American moving forward.

Does your mom live there too? If not then =/ not the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who decides when someone can claim an identity or nationality?

Who, indeed?

In fact, governments of nations decide this! And the Spanish government does not give birthright citizenship to people just because they are born on Spanish soil. You have to have been born to Spanish citizen parents.