You are correct, and that is not the same as denying sovereign immunity exists. It’s not very common, because it’s fairly rare that a governmental entity flat out breaches a written contract, but, when it happens, Courts invariably find that sovereign immunity doesn’t relieve the government of damages for breach, even when there is not an explicit waiver. When I first looked at this a couple of decades ago, most of the case law was from the 19th century, but there have been more cases since then. |
Having a little trouble with the bolded portions. |
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There is a lot of non-edited discussion going on that misses critical language so there is no use debating this further as we, or at least I, do not have a copy of the agreement(s) between FSU & the ACC as well as the ACC and ESPN.
Maybe & hopefully we will learn more by the end of business on Tuesday. We are not going to resolve anything among ourselves. |
What is missing? |
In an odd way the expansion has boxed FSU in. I think they may have wanted to give notice. Not to leave for certain but to give them leverage in discussions to stay. Now if they give notice, expansion will come back and someone will flip. I think no notice. |
Specific facts. Without the specific facts from the documents involved, many potential issues are not addressed or are not addressed in a proper manner. In fact, without the documents under discussion, we really do not know all of the issues. Facts matter; specifics matter. For example: Issues not specifically addressed in any contractual provision. Are the agreements between FSU & the ACC public documents ? |
What are you talking about, the GoR has always been public https://wwwcache.wralsportsfan.com/asset/colleges/ncsu/2022/07/05/20361238/ACC-Grant-of-Rights-1-DMID1-5vgd1w2if.pdf |
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Thanks. Forgot that these documents were linked earlier in this thread.
Do we have access to the Notre Dame agreement with the ACC ? |
Yes, now recall that the GOR document was linked earlier in the thread. During the recent discussion in this thread no specific reference was included to any part of the agreement. Not sure what FSU attorneys will argue, but any argument will refer to specific provisions of the agreement. |
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Interesting insight regarding FSU's motivation to exit ACC:
https://on3.com/college/florida-state-seminoles/news/college-football-insider-believes-fear-of-ucf-plays-a-role-in-florida-state-desire-to-leave-the-acc-florida-ralph-russo-andy-staples/ |
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https://news.wfsu.org/wfsu-local-news/2023-08-11/fsu-has-until-august-15th-to-decide-whether-to-leave-the-acc
Short, but interesting article. Very quick read. |
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Great article published today.
FSU Board Chairman says the GOR document is the least of his worries and that "that will not be the document that keeps us from leaving" the ACC. https://theathletic.com/4774447/2023/08/14/florida-state-acc-revenue-realignment/ |
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Reports coming out that FSU may want to take a year to strategize how best to exit the ACC.
Deadline for FSU to notify the ACC is tomorrow, Tuesday, August 15, 2023. |
| And another year where FSU is all talk and no action. The GoR is iron clad, they are just angling for more money. |
Yep another head fake from a toothless Seminole with no landing spot. |