War with Iran Part II

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For the moron who bizarrely insists Iran didn’t lay mines in the Strait, here ya go.

The U.S. military is using sea drones to help clear the Strait of Hormuz of mines that might be lurking there, in a quiet effort to ease Iran’s stranglehold on the waterway and begin reopening it to commercial shipping.

Iran on Saturday closed the strait again and fired on at least two vessels to protest the American blockade of its ports. Earlier, it said any shippers allowed to cross must use new traffic lanes that swing by Iran’s coast, warning of mines in the main channels of the strait.

The military could do an initial scan for mines relatively quickly in the confines of the strait, military analysts said. After locating the mines, a second wave of sea robots could be sent out to destroy them by using explosives or by setting them off remotely.

“You can get a small channel in that area surveyed in days not weeks using Unmanned Underwater Vehicles,” said Kevin Donegan, a former U.S. Navy vice admiral and former commander of the U.S. Fifth Fleet based in the Gulf.

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/the-navy-sends-in-the-robots-to-clear-hormuz-of-mines-1c107caa?st=MKmf8w

WSJ is not a credible source.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the moron who bizarrely insists Iran didn’t lay mines in the Strait, here ya go.

The U.S. military is using sea drones to help clear the Strait of Hormuz of mines that might be lurking there, in a quiet effort to ease Iran’s stranglehold on the waterway and begin reopening it to commercial shipping.

Iran on Saturday closed the strait again and fired on at least two vessels to protest the American blockade of its ports. Earlier, it said any shippers allowed to cross must use new traffic lanes that swing by Iran’s coast, warning of mines in the main channels of the strait.

The military could do an initial scan for mines relatively quickly in the confines of the strait, military analysts said. After locating the mines, a second wave of sea robots could be sent out to destroy them by using explosives or by setting them off remotely.

“You can get a small channel in that area surveyed in days not weeks using Unmanned Underwater Vehicles,” said Kevin Donegan, a former U.S. Navy vice admiral and former commander of the U.S. Fifth Fleet based in the Gulf.

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/the-navy-sends-in-the-robots-to-clear-hormuz-of-mines-1c107caa?st=MKmf8w

WSJ is not a credible source.

You are not a credible person. Too funny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Question for the group:
How can Trump get out of this and save face? Ideas?
He can’t even get them to entertain peace talks or negotiations now.

He can't. Why would Iran bother negotiating with him anyway when he's not in control and the American negotiating team is consulting with Netanyahu the entire time?

Nor does he have any credibility. He'll break any deal 60 seconds after it's signed.

[Anonymous]

We are paying for this Neanderthal Netanyahu administration and their voters. The pay back will be their demise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Question for the group:
How can Trump get out of this and save face? Ideas?
He can’t even get them to entertain peace talks or negotiations now.

He can't. Why would Iran bother negotiating with him anyway when he's not in control and the American negotiating team is consulting with Netanyahu the entire time?

Nor does he have any credibility. He'll break any deal 60 seconds after it's signed.

Apparently tot they won’t even let Trump in the situation room.


From Meidas:

“Trump is reportedly being sidelined by his own military leaders as tensions with Iran escalate.

According to reporting, generals limited his access during a sensitive extraction mission over concerns about erratic decision-making that could put troops at risk. Meanwhile, Trump is again threatening strikes on Iranian infrastructure as Iran has fully closed the Strait of Hormuz and called out his lies.

Planned talks in Pakistan are now in doubt, with Iran signaling it won’t show up.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Question for the group:
How can Trump get out of this and save face? Ideas?
He can’t even get them to entertain peace talks or negotiations now.

He can't. Why would Iran bother negotiating with him anyway when he's not in control and the American negotiating team is consulting with Netanyahu the entire time?

Nor does he have any credibility. He'll break any deal 60 seconds after it's signed.

Apparently tot they won’t even let Trump in the situation room.


From Meidas:

“Trump is reportedly being sidelined by his own military leaders as tensions with Iran escalate.

According to reporting, generals limited his access during a sensitive extraction mission over concerns about erratic decision-making that could put troops at risk. Meanwhile, Trump is again threatening strikes on Iranian infrastructure as Iran has fully closed the Strait of Hormuz and called out his lies.

Planned talks in Pakistan are now in doubt, with Iran signaling it won’t show up.”

Hopefully these are the American military leaders who told him not to attack Iran and that Iran was not a threat as opposed to those military leaders from Tel Aviv who convinced Trump otherwise in the briefing room.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the moron who bizarrely insists Iran didn’t lay mines in the Strait, here ya go.

The U.S. military is using sea drones to help clear the Strait of Hormuz of mines that might be lurking there, in a quiet effort to ease Iran’s stranglehold on the waterway and begin reopening it to commercial shipping.

Iran on Saturday closed the strait again and fired on at least two vessels to protest the American blockade of its ports. Earlier, it said any shippers allowed to cross must use new traffic lanes that swing by Iran’s coast, warning of mines in the main channels of the strait.

The military could do an initial scan for mines relatively quickly in the confines of the strait, military analysts said. After locating the mines, a second wave of sea robots could be sent out to destroy them by using explosives or by setting them off remotely.

“You can get a small channel in that area surveyed in days not weeks using Unmanned Underwater Vehicles,” said Kevin Donegan, a former U.S. Navy vice admiral and former commander of the U.S. Fifth Fleet based in the Gulf.

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/the-navy-sends-in-the-robots-to-clear-hormuz-of-mines-1c107caa?st=MKmf8w

WSJ is not a credible source.

You are not a credible person. Too funny.

Wait a week and see what maga Trump Israeli propaganda in the WSJ turns out to be false and never mentioned again. WSJ is awful quiet about Trump market manipulations announcements.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Question for the group:
How can Trump get out of this and save face? Ideas?
He can’t even get them to entertain peace talks or negotiations now.

He can't. Why would Iran bother negotiating with him anyway when he's not in control and the American negotiating team is consulting with Netanyahu the entire time?

Nor does he have any credibility. He'll break any deal 60 seconds after it's signed.

Apparently tot they won’t even let Trump in the situation room.


From Meidas:

“Trump is reportedly being sidelined by his own military leaders as tensions with Iran escalate.

According to reporting, generals limited his access during a sensitive extraction mission over concerns about erratic decision-making that could put troops at risk. Meanwhile, Trump is again threatening strikes on Iranian infrastructure as Iran has fully closed the Strait of Hormuz and called out his lies.

Planned talks in Pakistan are now in doubt, with Iran signaling it won’t show up.”

Ok. I despise Trump. But if this is true (doubtful), it’s a huge problem. Civilian control of the military is absolute. The President, who like it or not is the elected representative of the people, does get to make these decisions. It’s not up to the military to disagree. It’s up to Congress, the courts, and the American people through our votes/protests/letter writing to act as the check on Trump.

[Anonymous]

US Navy fired on and seized Iranian-flagged vessel, Trump says

Meanwhile, the White House says US officials are headed to Pakistan for peace talks, though Iran has not publicly confirmed it will send a delegation. • Ship seizure: The US Navy fired on and seized an Iranian-flagged cargo ship that tried to bypass the US naval blockade in the Gulf of Oman, according to President Donald Trump. This marks the latest escalation in tensions over the region’s waterways, as Tehran maintains its grip on the Strait of Hormuz.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/19/world/live-news/iran-war-us-trump-hormuz

No word on the crew. Wonder if Hegseth ordered the crew killed or just threw them over the rail?

[Anonymous]

The US shot the engine. The ship is adrift.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Question for the group:
How can Trump get out of this and save face? Ideas?
He can’t even get them to entertain peace talks or negotiations now.

He can't. Why would Iran bother negotiating with him anyway when he's not in control and the American negotiating team is consulting with Netanyahu the entire time?

Nor does he have any credibility. He'll break any deal 60 seconds after it's signed.

Apparently tot they won’t even let Trump in the situation room.


From Meidas:

“Trump is reportedly being sidelined by his own military leaders as tensions with Iran escalate.

According to reporting, generals limited his access during a sensitive extraction mission over concerns about erratic decision-making that could put troops at risk. Meanwhile, Trump is again threatening strikes on Iranian infrastructure as Iran has fully closed the Strait of Hormuz and called out his lies.

Planned talks in Pakistan are now in doubt, with Iran signaling it won’t show up.”

Ok. I despise Trump. But if this is true (doubtful), it’s a huge problem. Civilian control of the military is absolute. The President, who like it or not is the elected representative of the people, does get to make these decisions. It’s not up to the military to disagree. It’s up to Congress, the courts, and the American people through our votes/protests/letter writing to act as the check on Trump.

Remember all the times these people ask about “who was really running the country” during Biden? Where are they now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The US shot the engine. The ship is adrift.

Is this legal? I'm thinking not.

Nazi U-boats did the exact same thing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

US Navy fired on and seized Iranian-flagged vessel, Trump says

Meanwhile, the White House says US officials are headed to Pakistan for peace talks, though Iran has not publicly confirmed it will send a delegation. • Ship seizure: The US Navy fired on and seized an Iranian-flagged cargo ship that tried to bypass the US naval blockade in the Gulf of Oman, according to President Donald Trump. This marks the latest escalation in tensions over the region’s waterways, as Tehran maintains its grip on the Strait of Hormuz.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/19/world/live-news/iran-war-us-trump-hormuz

No word on the crew. Wonder if Hegseth ordered the crew killed or just threw them over the rail?

Why have an agreement and then not abide by it? This is at least the 5th time Trump has broken an agreement with Iran.


Iran confirms US interdiction, seizure of Iranian vessel, says will retaliate ‘soon’
https://aje.news/w7b54q?update=4506380

Iran’s Hazrat Khatam al-Anbiya military headquarters confirmed an attack claimed by the US military on a ship in the Sea of Oman in a statement carried by semi-official Tasnim news agency.

“The aggressive America, by violating the ceasefire and committing maritime piracy, attacked one of Iran’s commercial ships in the waters of the Sea of Oman by firing upon it and disabling its navigation system by deploying several of its terrorist marines on the deck of the mentioned vessel”, it said, confirming that the ship had been seized.

“We warn that the Armed Forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran will soon respond to and retaliate against this armed piracy by the US military,” it added.

[Anonymous]

US seizure of Iranian cargo ship amounts to ‘declaration of war’
https://aje.news/w7b54q?update=4506338

Harlan Ullman, a senior adviser at The Atlantic Council, says that the US’s move to interdict and seize an Iranian cargo vessel amounts to a declaration of war on Iran.

“It is an act of war, quite frankly. You just don’t do that”, he told Al Jazeera. “In fact, what the United States is doing, has been, and is, in terms of international law, a declaration of war, but the US Congress doesn’t seem to accept that”.

He said that the attack on the ship is also a “violation of international law” and adds confusion to an “already confused” negotiation process between the US and Iran.

[Anonymous]

WTF. Why won't Congress stop the madman?!