So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the principal needs to get rid of the uniforms and more proactively recruit community IB members. It would turn around within 3 years, so fast. Don't build yet another school. That just perpetuates the whole IB/OOB situation which is not how most school systems are run.

I live IB and prefer the uniforms. So there are different views. The reason our neighbors don't send their kids to Hardy is more about need to be at a private they believe impresses their law firm partners than anything else. The folks clamoring for a changed Hardy are subject to the usual forces that drive movement away from the city. Small houses and growing families. Better test results at suburban schools. Crime issues. Taxes. Need to have instate tuition at good university. Except some have enough $ to work around these issues that otherwise grow in importance as families grow in age and size. The vast majority of that group fit the second sentence above. So yeah I'm doubtful about any major changes at Hardy. Let's be real and work with what we have.

Oh drop the holier-than-thou attitude. You have no idea why people do or do not send their children to Hardy. Let's be above baseless speculation and not resort to (implied) character assassination. There is plenty of good things about Hardy. By my account, things continue to improve. The complaints people have are legitimate, so don't discount them. It undermines reasoned discussion.

I also like uniforms. I'm also in-bounds. If I send my children to a private school, it will have nothing to do with impressing my (non-existent) law partners.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the principal needs to get rid of the uniforms and more proactively recruit community IB members. It would turn around within 3 years, so fast. Don't build yet another school. That just perpetuates the whole IB/OOB situation which is not how most school systems are run.

I live IB and prefer the uniforms. So there are different views. The reason our neighbors don't send their kids to Hardy is more about need to be at a private they believe impresses their law firm partners than anything else. The folks clamoring for a changed Hardy are subject to the usual forces that drive movement away from the city. Small houses and growing families. Better test results at suburban schools. Crime issues. Taxes. Need to have instate tuition at good university. Except some have enough $ to work around these issues that otherwise grow in importance as families grow in age and size. The vast majority of that group fit the second sentence above. So yeah I'm doubtful about any major changes at Hardy. Let's be real and work with what we have.

Oh drop the holier-than-thou attitude. You have no idea why people do or do not send their children to Hardy. Let's be above baseless speculation and not resort to (implied) character assassination. There is plenty of good things about Hardy. By my account, things continue to improve. The complaints people have are legitimate, so don't discount them. It undermines reasoned discussion.

I also like uniforms. I'm also in-bounds. If I send my children to a private school, it will have nothing to do with impressing my (non-existent) law partners.

We live IB and decided not to send our child to Hardy. Why? We thought we could find a better fit in a charter school (W Latin and BASIS). Private was never an option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How bad is Hardy really? If I'm not a racist and am OK with uniforms, wouldn't my kid get something good out of the smaller setting? Wilson seems like such a clamorous echo chamber.

Hardy would be great for your kid - as it was for mine - and will prepare him or her extremely well for Wilson - just like it did for mine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the principal needs to get rid of the uniforms and more proactively recruit community IB members. It would turn around within 3 years, so fast. Don't build yet another school. That just perpetuates the whole IB/OOB situation which is not how most school systems are run.

I live IB and prefer the uniforms. So there are different views. The reason our neighbors don't send their kids to Hardy is more about need to be at a private they believe impresses their law firm partners than anything else. The folks clamoring for a changed Hardy are subject to the usual forces that drive movement away from the city. Small houses and growing families. Better test results at suburban schools. Crime issues. Taxes. Need to have instate tuition at good university. Except some have enough $ to work around these issues that otherwise grow in importance as families grow in age and size. The vast majority of that group fit the second sentence above. So yeah I'm doubtful about any major changes at Hardy. Let's be real and work with what we have.

Oh drop the holier-than-thou attitude. You have no idea why people do or do not send their children to Hardy. Let's be above baseless speculation and not resort to (implied) character assassination. There is plenty of good things about Hardy. By my account, things continue to improve. The complaints people have are legitimate, so don't discount them. It undermines reasoned discussion.

You do get it that this entire thread is profoundly holier-than-though for much of this city right?

I also like uniforms. I'm also in-bounds. If I send my children to a private school, it will have nothing to do with impressing my (non-existent) law partners.

[Anonymous]

This thread should be shut down. At this point, it is Groundhog Day. There hasn't been an original thought or opinion for the last 90 pages of posts.

[Anonymous]

It's true.

[Anonymous]

But I'm learning how everything would be perfect if....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread should be shut down. At this point, it is Groundhog Day. There hasn't been an original thought or opinion for the last 90 pages of posts.

One thing is for sure: there are way more thread pages than there are IB students at Hardy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How bad is Hardy really? If I'm not a racist and am OK with uniforms, wouldn't my kid get something good out of the smaller setting? Wilson seems like such a clamorous echo chamber.

Hardy would be great for your kid - as it was for mine - and will prepare him or her extremely well for Wilson - just like it did for mine.

It may prepare students adequately for DCPS. While there are many exceptions, of course, in general there is a discernible difference academically at Wilson between those students who went to Deal and those who went to Hardy.

[Anonymous]

How do you know there is a discernible difference?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How bad is Hardy really? If I'm not a racist and am OK with uniforms, wouldn't my kid get something good out of the smaller setting? Wilson seems like such a clamorous echo chamber.

Hardy would be great for your kid - as it was for mine - and will prepare him or her extremely well for Wilson - just like it did for mine.

It may prepare students adequately for DCPS. While there are many exceptions, of course, in general there is a discernible difference academically at Wilson between those students who went to Deal and those who went to Hardy.

Exactly . Keeping all things equal, i.e. taking students with the same SES, 9th grade math teachers at Wilson know that students from Hardy come with a stronger math background.

[Anonymous]

Nice work PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That is a crazy idea! I think the IB families should work to make the school better. If you build a new school, the same thing could happen- IB kids won't attend. Hardy would be a great school if IB kids attended.

Yes, I don't get the thinking of the posters who are arguing that somehow building a new middle school Wotp will end up in IB kids attending and OOB kids staying away. What, are they going to build a barbed-wire fence around it?

[Anonymous]

It would only exacerbate Wilson overcrowding, you can't build another middle school wotp.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That is a crazy idea! I think the IB families should work to make the school better. If you build a new school, the same thing could happen- IB kids won't attend. Hardy would be a great school if IB kids attended.

Yes, I don't get the thinking of the posters who are arguing that somehow building a new middle school Wotp will end up in IB kids attending and OOB kids staying away. What, are they going to build a barbed-wire fence around it?

No. They'll just make it smaller so that it is filled with IB kids, with few spots for OOB kids. Hardy is just too big to be filled with IB kids.