Options for opposing Connecticut Avenue changes?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a commuter from MD so you can hate on me, but in our newly hybrid world, I will come into my DC office much less when these changes go into effect. I will spend a lot less money in DC than I have over the past 20yrs. And I will be driving all over DC neighborhoods when I do have to drive downtown. Especially if Beach Drive remains closed. I'm sure the 10 families and 20 Lance Armstrong wanna-bes who use the bikes lanes will be super happy, but having traversed this route over decades, I can assure you that there will be total gridlock and more accidents.

I live on a busy street in MD that gets a lot of NIH commuter traffic, so I understand why residents want to find ways to incentivize options other than car travel. But realistically all the bike lane plan will accomplish is diverting traffic to neighborhood streets, creating huge traffic jams, and reducing interest in working in downtown offices. I know the NWDC crowd thinks that's awesome, but the people who run small businesses and their employees may be less enamored of a city leadership that is actively encouraging smaller numbers of daily visitors.


The quiet majority in DC agrees with you. Most of my neighbors had no idea this was the plan. We struggled these past two years to educate our kids and keep our families safe. We sort of knew there was an on-going discussion about safety on Connecticut Ave, but most thought it was about the reversible lanes and general pedestrian safety. Both important topics. But, it’s fairly shocking what a small, loud group of progressives activists were able to push through in plain sight. Let this be a warning to your neighbors.


BS. The only people I have spoken to who agree with you are over 70 and have lived in their houses for over 30 years. The overwhelming majority of the people who actually live here, cannot understand your 1950's era mentality. Most people want a safer and more livable Avenue,. Most people want options other than cars. Most people understand climate change is real. Most people understand that our cities are evolving away from car oriented transportation. The leadership in our ANCs, the Council and the Mayor are implementing this. THEY are our elected officials. THEY were voted in on a platform of safety, sustainability and liberal to progressive politics.

It is really just the very vocal deep minority that is expressing a pro-car, anti-safety agenda.


We had a neighbor speak out against this plan and the bike lobby doxed them to their employer. Another neighbor had their lawn sign stolen. It was pretty shocking.


Not a stolen lawn sign!! That's horrific. Have you informed the FBI?

And what exactly does doxxing someone to they're employer do when all they've done is voiced opposition to a bike lane? Do they work in a bike job? Like, I can't imagine a random company giving a crap.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm a commuter from MD so you can hate on me, but in our newly hybrid world, I will come into my DC office much less when these changes go into effect. I will spend a lot less money in DC than I have over the past 20yrs. And I will be driving all over DC neighborhoods when I do have to drive downtown. Especially if Beach Drive remains closed. I'm sure the 10 families and 20 Lance Armstrong wanna-bes who use the bikes lanes will be super happy, but having traversed this route over decades, I can assure you that there will be total gridlock and more accidents.

I live on a busy street in MD that gets a lot of NIH commuter traffic, so I understand why residents want to find ways to incentivize options other than car travel. But realistically all the bike lane plan will accomplish is diverting traffic to neighborhood streets, creating huge traffic jams, and reducing interest in working in downtown offices. I know the NWDC crowd thinks that's awesome, but the people who run small businesses and their employees may be less enamored of a city leadership that is actively encouraging smaller numbers of daily visitors.


Maybe you should take this energy and use it to advocate for traffic calming and transit in MoCo. It’s pretty hellish there, and one reason that I am likely staying in DC instead of moving to MoCo. In fact, the Ct Ave project is specifically one reason I might stay.

PS: you can drive to a metro station and metro in to DC. And no, you’re not going to be driving on side streets deep with Cleveland Park. That’s not actually how traffic works.


It's from Calvert Street to Chevy Chase Circle, not just Cleveland Park. There are a lot of side streets along that route and yes that is exactly how traffic works. If there's congestion then an alternate route is found.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm a commuter from MD so you can hate on me, but in our newly hybrid world, I will come into my DC office much less when these changes go into effect. I will spend a lot less money in DC than I have over the past 20yrs. And I will be driving all over DC neighborhoods when I do have to drive downtown. Especially if Beach Drive remains closed. I'm sure the 10 families and 20 Lance Armstrong wanna-bes who use the bikes lanes will be super happy, but having traversed this route over decades, I can assure you that there will be total gridlock and more accidents.

I live on a busy street in MD that gets a lot of NIH commuter traffic, so I understand why residents want to find ways to incentivize options other than car travel. But realistically all the bike lane plan will accomplish is diverting traffic to neighborhood streets, creating huge traffic jams, and reducing interest in working in downtown offices. I know the NWDC crowd thinks that's awesome, but the people who run small businesses and their employees may be less enamored of a city leadership that is actively encouraging smaller numbers of daily visitors.


The quiet majority in DC agrees with you. Most of my neighbors had no idea this was the plan. We struggled these past two years to educate our kids and keep our families safe. We sort of knew there was an on-going discussion about safety on Connecticut Ave, but most thought it was about the reversible lanes and general pedestrian safety. Both important topics. But, it’s fairly shocking what a small, loud group of progressives activists were able to push through in plain sight. Let this be a warning to your neighbors.


BS. The only people I have spoken to who agree with you are over 70 and have lived in their houses for over 30 years. The overwhelming majority of the people who actually live here, cannot understand your 1950's era mentality. Most people want a safer and more livable Avenue,. Most people want options other than cars. Most people understand climate change is real. Most people understand that our cities are evolving away from car oriented transportation. The leadership in our ANCs, the Council and the Mayor are implementing this. THEY are our elected officials. THEY were voted in on a platform of safety, sustainability and liberal to progressive politics.

It is really just the very vocal deep minority that is expressing a pro-car, anti-safety agenda.


We had a neighbor speak out against this plan and the bike lobby doxed them to their employer. Another neighbor had their lawn sign stolen. It was pretty shocking.


Not a stolen lawn sign!! That's horrific. Have you informed the FBI?

And what exactly does doxxing someone to they're employer do when all they've done is voiced opposition to a bike lane? Do they work in a bike job? Like, I can't imagine a random company giving a crap.


You're actually defending that behavior?
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Anonymous wrote:I'm a commuter from MD so you can hate on me, but in our newly hybrid world, I will come into my DC office much less when these changes go into effect. I will spend a lot less money in DC than I have over the past 20yrs. And I will be driving all over DC neighborhoods when I do have to drive downtown. Especially if Beach Drive remains closed. I'm sure the 10 families and 20 Lance Armstrong wanna-bes who use the bikes lanes will be super happy, but having traversed this route over decades, I can assure you that there will be total gridlock and more accidents.

I live on a busy street in MD that gets a lot of NIH commuter traffic, so I understand why residents want to find ways to incentivize options other than car travel. But realistically all the bike lane plan will accomplish is diverting traffic to neighborhood streets, creating huge traffic jams, and reducing interest in working in downtown offices. I know the NWDC crowd thinks that's awesome, but the people who run small businesses and their employees may be less enamored of a city leadership that is actively encouraging smaller numbers of daily visitors.


Maybe you should take this energy and use it to advocate for traffic calming and transit in MoCo. It’s pretty hellish there, and one reason that I am likely staying in DC instead of moving to MoCo. In fact, the Ct Ave project is specifically one reason I might stay.

PS: you can drive to a metro station and metro in to DC. And no, you’re not going to be driving on side streets deep with Cleveland Park. That’s not actually how traffic works.


It's from Calvert Street to Chevy Chase Circle, not just Cleveland Park. There are a lot of side streets along that route and yes that is exactly how traffic works. If there's congestion then an alternate route is found.


Please read the traffic study. Traffic is largely REDUCED on ew side streets and INCREASED on other
major NS routes. https://ddot.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ddot/page_content/attachments/02_Conn%20Ave_Public%20Meeting_LR%232-Traff-Parking_FINAL_04012021.pdf. On EW side street where it does increase, the increase is something like 15% which will likely not even be noticeable.

And if you care so much, take the metro.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a commuter from MD so you can hate on me, but in our newly hybrid world, I will come into my DC office much less when these changes go into effect. I will spend a lot less money in DC than I have over the past 20yrs. And I will be driving all over DC neighborhoods when I do have to drive downtown. Especially if Beach Drive remains closed. I'm sure the 10 families and 20 Lance Armstrong wanna-bes who use the bikes lanes will be super happy, but having traversed this route over decades, I can assure you that there will be total gridlock and more accidents.

I live on a busy street in MD that gets a lot of NIH commuter traffic, so I understand why residents want to find ways to incentivize options other than car travel. But realistically all the bike lane plan will accomplish is diverting traffic to neighborhood streets, creating huge traffic jams, and reducing interest in working in downtown offices. I know the NWDC crowd thinks that's awesome, but the people who run small businesses and their employees may be less enamored of a city leadership that is actively encouraging smaller numbers of daily visitors.


The quiet majority in DC agrees with you. Most of my neighbors had no idea this was the plan. We struggled these past two years to educate our kids and keep our families safe. We sort of knew there was an on-going discussion about safety on Connecticut Ave, but most thought it was about the reversible lanes and general pedestrian safety. Both important topics. But, it’s fairly shocking what a small, loud group of progressives activists were able to push through in plain sight. Let this be a warning to your neighbors.


BS. The only people I have spoken to who agree with you are over 70 and have lived in their houses for over 30 years. The overwhelming majority of the people who actually live here, cannot understand your 1950's era mentality. Most people want a safer and more livable Avenue,. Most people want options other than cars. Most people understand climate change is real. Most people understand that our cities are evolving away from car oriented transportation. The leadership in our ANCs, the Council and the Mayor are implementing this. THEY are our elected officials. THEY were voted in on a platform of safety, sustainability and liberal to progressive politics.

It is really just the very vocal deep minority that is expressing a pro-car, anti-safety agenda.


We had a neighbor speak out against this plan and the bike lobby doxed them to their employer. Another neighbor had their lawn sign stolen. It was pretty shocking.


Not a stolen lawn sign!! That's horrific. Have you informed the FBI?

And what exactly does doxxing someone to they're employer do when all they've done is voiced opposition to a bike lane? Do they work in a bike job? Like, I can't imagine a random company giving a crap.


You're actually defending that behavior?


I think they are saying PP is lying. Nobody got doxxed for being against bike lanes.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a commuter from MD so you can hate on me, but in our newly hybrid world, I will come into my DC office much less when these changes go into effect. I will spend a lot less money in DC than I have over the past 20yrs. And I will be driving all over DC neighborhoods when I do have to drive downtown. Especially if Beach Drive remains closed. I'm sure the 10 families and 20 Lance Armstrong wanna-bes who use the bikes lanes will be super happy, but having traversed this route over decades, I can assure you that there will be total gridlock and more accidents.

I live on a busy street in MD that gets a lot of NIH commuter traffic, so I understand why residents want to find ways to incentivize options other than car travel. But realistically all the bike lane plan will accomplish is diverting traffic to neighborhood streets, creating huge traffic jams, and reducing interest in working in downtown offices. I know the NWDC crowd thinks that's awesome, but the people who run small businesses and their employees may be less enamored of a city leadership that is actively encouraging smaller numbers of daily visitors.


The quiet majority in DC agrees with you. Most of my neighbors had no idea this was the plan. We struggled these past two years to educate our kids and keep our families safe. We sort of knew there was an on-going discussion about safety on Connecticut Ave, but most thought it was about the reversible lanes and general pedestrian safety. Both important topics. But, it’s fairly shocking what a small, loud group of progressives activists were able to push through in plain sight. Let this be a warning to your neighbors.


BS. The only people I have spoken to who agree with you are over 70 and have lived in their houses for over 30 years. The overwhelming majority of the people who actually live here, cannot understand your 1950's era mentality. Most people want a safer and more livable Avenue,. Most people want options other than cars. Most people understand climate change is real. Most people understand that our cities are evolving away from car oriented transportation. The leadership in our ANCs, the Council and the Mayor are implementing this. THEY are our elected officials. THEY were voted in on a platform of safety, sustainability and liberal to progressive politics.

It is really just the very vocal deep minority that is expressing a pro-car, anti-safety agenda.


We had a neighbor speak out against this plan and the bike lobby doxed them to their employer. Another neighbor had their lawn sign stolen. It was pretty shocking.


Not a stolen lawn sign!! That's horrific. Have you informed the FBI?

And what exactly does doxxing someone to they're employer do when all they've done is voiced opposition to a bike lane? Do they work in a bike job? Like, I can't imagine a random company giving a crap.


You're actually defending that behavior?


I think they are saying PP is lying. Nobody got doxxed for being against bike lanes.


That's not what they said. They said it couldn't cause any harm so what's the big deal.

Can we agree that doxxing somebody because they oppose closing two lanes of Connecticut Avenue is bad?
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Anonymous wrote:I'm a commuter from MD so you can hate on me, but in our newly hybrid world, I will come into my DC office much less when these changes go into effect. I will spend a lot less money in DC than I have over the past 20yrs. And I will be driving all over DC neighborhoods when I do have to drive downtown. Especially if Beach Drive remains closed. I'm sure the 10 families and 20 Lance Armstrong wanna-bes who use the bikes lanes will be super happy, but having traversed this route over decades, I can assure you that there will be total gridlock and more accidents.

I live on a busy street in MD that gets a lot of NIH commuter traffic, so I understand why residents want to find ways to incentivize options other than car travel. But realistically all the bike lane plan will accomplish is diverting traffic to neighborhood streets, creating huge traffic jams, and reducing interest in working in downtown offices. I know the NWDC crowd thinks that's awesome, but the people who run small businesses and their employees may be less enamored of a city leadership that is actively encouraging smaller numbers of daily visitors.


The quiet majority in DC agrees with you. Most of my neighbors had no idea this was the plan. We struggled these past two years to educate our kids and keep our families safe. We sort of knew there was an on-going discussion about safety on Connecticut Ave, but most thought it was about the reversible lanes and general pedestrian safety. Both important topics. But, it’s fairly shocking what a small, loud group of progressives activists were able to push through in plain sight. Let this be a warning to your neighbors.


BS. The only people I have spoken to who agree with you are over 70 and have lived in their houses for over 30 years. The overwhelming majority of the people who actually live here, cannot understand your 1950's era mentality. Most people want a safer and more livable Avenue,. Most people want options other than cars. Most people understand climate change is real. Most people understand that our cities are evolving away from car oriented transportation. The leadership in our ANCs, the Council and the Mayor are implementing this. THEY are our elected officials. THEY were voted in on a platform of safety, sustainability and liberal to progressive politics.

It is really just the very vocal deep minority that is expressing a pro-car, anti-safety agenda.


We had a neighbor speak out against this plan and the bike lobby doxed them to their employer. Another neighbor had their lawn sign stolen. It was pretty shocking.


Not a stolen lawn sign!! That's horrific. Have you informed the FBI?

And what exactly does doxxing someone to they're employer do when all they've done is voiced opposition to a bike lane? Do they work in a bike job? Like, I can't imagine a random company giving a crap.


You're actually defending that behavior?


I'm saying my ingrown let toenail is orders of magnitude more important.

Let's talk about rhetoric that leads to people being injured and dying first. Take a look at the behavior and language from the anti-bike zealots. Then get back to me about lawn signs.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a commuter from MD so you can hate on me, but in our newly hybrid world, I will come into my DC office much less when these changes go into effect. I will spend a lot less money in DC than I have over the past 20yrs. And I will be driving all over DC neighborhoods when I do have to drive downtown. Especially if Beach Drive remains closed. I'm sure the 10 families and 20 Lance Armstrong wanna-bes who use the bikes lanes will be super happy, but having traversed this route over decades, I can assure you that there will be total gridlock and more accidents.

I live on a busy street in MD that gets a lot of NIH commuter traffic, so I understand why residents want to find ways to incentivize options other than car travel. But realistically all the bike lane plan will accomplish is diverting traffic to neighborhood streets, creating huge traffic jams, and reducing interest in working in downtown offices. I know the NWDC crowd thinks that's awesome, but the people who run small businesses and their employees may be less enamored of a city leadership that is actively encouraging smaller numbers of daily visitors.


Maybe you should take this energy and use it to advocate for traffic calming and transit in MoCo. It’s pretty hellish there, and one reason that I am likely staying in DC instead of moving to MoCo. In fact, the Ct Ave project is specifically one reason I might stay.

PS: you can drive to a metro station and metro in to DC. And no, you’re not going to be driving on side streets deep with Cleveland Park. That’s not actually how traffic works.


It's from Calvert Street to Chevy Chase Circle, not just Cleveland Park. There are a lot of side streets along that route and yes that is exactly how traffic works. If there's congestion then an alternate route is found.


Please read the traffic study. Traffic is largely REDUCED on ew side streets and INCREASED on other
major NS routes. https://ddot.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ddot/page_content/attachments/02_Conn%20Ave_Public%20Meeting_LR%232-Traff-Parking_FINAL_04012021.pdf. On EW side street where it does increase, the increase is something like 15% which will likely not even be noticeable.

And if you care so much, take the metro.



I did and I noticed a few things. It claims there will be a 1000% increase in bike commuters and that 7,000 cars will disappear. It used pandemic traffic numbers as its base. It looked at what happens if more people than anticipated use bikes but not what happens if less people use them. It says traffic will be diverted to GW Parkway and Georgia but not 16th, Reno, and Beach (the most logical alternative routes) let alone how people would get to Reno and Beach (ie: side streets). It is obvious that the study was done with an end goal in mind and was massaged accordingly.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm a commuter from MD so you can hate on me, but in our newly hybrid world, I will come into my DC office much less when these changes go into effect. I will spend a lot less money in DC than I have over the past 20yrs. And I will be driving all over DC neighborhoods when I do have to drive downtown. Especially if Beach Drive remains closed. I'm sure the 10 families and 20 Lance Armstrong wanna-bes who use the bikes lanes will be super happy, but having traversed this route over decades, I can assure you that there will be total gridlock and more accidents.

I live on a busy street in MD that gets a lot of NIH commuter traffic, so I understand why residents want to find ways to incentivize options other than car travel. But realistically all the bike lane plan will accomplish is diverting traffic to neighborhood streets, creating huge traffic jams, and reducing interest in working in downtown offices. I know the NWDC crowd thinks that's awesome, but the people who run small businesses and their employees may be less enamored of a city leadership that is actively encouraging smaller numbers of daily visitors.


The quiet majority in DC agrees with you. Most of my neighbors had no idea this was the plan. We struggled these past two years to educate our kids and keep our families safe. We sort of knew there was an on-going discussion about safety on Connecticut Ave, but most thought it was about the reversible lanes and general pedestrian safety. Both important topics. But, it’s fairly shocking what a small, loud group of progressives activists were able to push through in plain sight. Let this be a warning to your neighbors.


BS. The only people I have spoken to who agree with you are over 70 and have lived in their houses for over 30 years. The overwhelming majority of the people who actually live here, cannot understand your 1950's era mentality. Most people want a safer and more livable Avenue,. Most people want options other than cars. Most people understand climate change is real. Most people understand that our cities are evolving away from car oriented transportation. The leadership in our ANCs, the Council and the Mayor are implementing this. THEY are our elected officials. THEY were voted in on a platform of safety, sustainability and liberal to progressive politics.

It is really just the very vocal deep minority that is expressing a pro-car, anti-safety agenda.


We had a neighbor speak out against this plan and the bike lobby doxed them to their employer. Another neighbor had their lawn sign stolen. It was pretty shocking.


Not a stolen lawn sign!! That's horrific. Have you informed the FBI?

And what exactly does doxxing someone to they're employer do when all they've done is voiced opposition to a bike lane? Do they work in a bike job? Like, I can't imagine a random company giving a crap.


You're actually defending that behavior?


I'm saying my ingrown let toenail is orders of magnitude more important.

Let's talk about rhetoric that leads to people being injured and dying first. Take a look at the behavior and language from the anti-bike zealots. Then get back to me about lawn signs.


So you think doxxing people because they have a different oponion than you regarding closing two lanes of Connecticut Avenue is acceptable. That says a lot.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm a commuter from MD so you can hate on me, but in our newly hybrid world, I will come into my DC office much less when these changes go into effect. I will spend a lot less money in DC than I have over the past 20yrs. And I will be driving all over DC neighborhoods when I do have to drive downtown. Especially if Beach Drive remains closed. I'm sure the 10 families and 20 Lance Armstrong wanna-bes who use the bikes lanes will be super happy, but having traversed this route over decades, I can assure you that there will be total gridlock and more accidents.

I live on a busy street in MD that gets a lot of NIH commuter traffic, so I understand why residents want to find ways to incentivize options other than car travel. But realistically all the bike lane plan will accomplish is diverting traffic to neighborhood streets, creating huge traffic jams, and reducing interest in working in downtown offices. I know the NWDC crowd thinks that's awesome, but the people who run small businesses and their employees may be less enamored of a city leadership that is actively encouraging smaller numbers of daily visitors.


The quiet majority in DC agrees with you. Most of my neighbors had no idea this was the plan. We struggled these past two years to educate our kids and keep our families safe. We sort of knew there was an on-going discussion about safety on Connecticut Ave, but most thought it was about the reversible lanes and general pedestrian safety. Both important topics. But, it’s fairly shocking what a small, loud group of progressives activists were able to push through in plain sight. Let this be a warning to your neighbors.


BS. The only people I have spoken to who agree with you are over 70 and have lived in their houses for over 30 years. The overwhelming majority of the people who actually live here, cannot understand your 1950's era mentality. Most people want a safer and more livable Avenue,. Most people want options other than cars. Most people understand climate change is real. Most people understand that our cities are evolving away from car oriented transportation. The leadership in our ANCs, the Council and the Mayor are implementing this. THEY are our elected officials. THEY were voted in on a platform of safety, sustainability and liberal to progressive politics.

It is really just the very vocal deep minority that is expressing a pro-car, anti-safety agenda.


We had a neighbor speak out against this plan and the bike lobby doxed them to their employer. Another neighbor had their lawn sign stolen. It was pretty shocking.


Not a stolen lawn sign!! That's horrific. Have you informed the FBI?

And what exactly does doxxing someone to they're employer do when all they've done is voiced opposition to a bike lane? Do they work in a bike job? Like, I can't imagine a random company giving a crap.


You're actually defending that behavior?


I'm saying my ingrown let toenail is orders of magnitude more important.

Let's talk about rhetoric that leads to people being injured and dying first. Take a look at the behavior and language from the anti-bike zealots. Then get back to me about lawn signs.


So you think doxxing people because they have a different oponion than you regarding closing two lanes of Connecticut Avenue is acceptable. That says a lot.


I didn't say that. You did.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm a commuter from MD so you can hate on me, but in our newly hybrid world, I will come into my DC office much less when these changes go into effect. I will spend a lot less money in DC than I have over the past 20yrs. And I will be driving all over DC neighborhoods when I do have to drive downtown. Especially if Beach Drive remains closed. I'm sure the 10 families and 20 Lance Armstrong wanna-bes who use the bikes lanes will be super happy, but having traversed this route over decades, I can assure you that there will be total gridlock and more accidents.

I live on a busy street in MD that gets a lot of NIH commuter traffic, so I understand why residents want to find ways to incentivize options other than car travel. But realistically all the bike lane plan will accomplish is diverting traffic to neighborhood streets, creating huge traffic jams, and reducing interest in working in downtown offices. I know the NWDC crowd thinks that's awesome, but the people who run small businesses and their employees may be less enamored of a city leadership that is actively encouraging smaller numbers of daily visitors.


The quiet majority in DC agrees with you. Most of my neighbors had no idea this was the plan. We struggled these past two years to educate our kids and keep our families safe. We sort of knew there was an on-going discussion about safety on Connecticut Ave, but most thought it was about the reversible lanes and general pedestrian safety. Both important topics. But, it’s fairly shocking what a small, loud group of progressives activists were able to push through in plain sight. Let this be a warning to your neighbors.


BS. The only people I have spoken to who agree with you are over 70 and have lived in their houses for over 30 years. The overwhelming majority of the people who actually live here, cannot understand your 1950's era mentality. Most people want a safer and more livable Avenue,. Most people want options other than cars. Most people understand climate change is real. Most people understand that our cities are evolving away from car oriented transportation. The leadership in our ANCs, the Council and the Mayor are implementing this. THEY are our elected officials. THEY were voted in on a platform of safety, sustainability and liberal to progressive politics.

It is really just the very vocal deep minority that is expressing a pro-car, anti-safety agenda.


That is just absolutely divorced from reality. You've gotten high on your own supply.


Maybe if you got outside of your bubble, you would see how the rest of your neighbors, who you don't associated with, are thinking.

Remember, only about 20% of of the people around Conn Avenue live in single family homes. If that is your litmus, then you are missing the voice of the other 80%. And most of the 20% who live in single family homes also disagree with you.


More lies. That'd an awfully narrow definition of people around Connecticut Avenue. How are you defining it?


It is not my definition, it is the DC office of planning. You have to ask them.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm a commuter from MD so you can hate on me, but in our newly hybrid world, I will come into my DC office much less when these changes go into effect. I will spend a lot less money in DC than I have over the past 20yrs. And I will be driving all over DC neighborhoods when I do have to drive downtown. Especially if Beach Drive remains closed. I'm sure the 10 families and 20 Lance Armstrong wanna-bes who use the bikes lanes will be super happy, but having traversed this route over decades, I can assure you that there will be total gridlock and more accidents.

I live on a busy street in MD that gets a lot of NIH commuter traffic, so I understand why residents want to find ways to incentivize options other than car travel. But realistically all the bike lane plan will accomplish is diverting traffic to neighborhood streets, creating huge traffic jams, and reducing interest in working in downtown offices. I know the NWDC crowd thinks that's awesome, but the people who run small businesses and their employees may be less enamored of a city leadership that is actively encouraging smaller numbers of daily visitors.


The quiet majority in DC agrees with you. Most of my neighbors had no idea this was the plan. We struggled these past two years to educate our kids and keep our families safe. We sort of knew there was an on-going discussion about safety on Connecticut Ave, but most thought it was about the reversible lanes and general pedestrian safety. Both important topics. But, it’s fairly shocking what a small, loud group of progressives activists were able to push through in plain sight. Let this be a warning to your neighbors.


BS. The only people I have spoken to who agree with you are over 70 and have lived in their houses for over 30 years. The overwhelming majority of the people who actually live here, cannot understand your 1950's era mentality. Most people want a safer and more livable Avenue,. Most people want options other than cars. Most people understand climate change is real. Most people understand that our cities are evolving away from car oriented transportation. The leadership in our ANCs, the Council and the Mayor are implementing this. THEY are our elected officials. THEY were voted in on a platform of safety, sustainability and liberal to progressive politics.

It is really just the very vocal deep minority that is expressing a pro-car, anti-safety agenda.


We had a neighbor speak out against this plan and the bike lobby doxed them to their employer. Another neighbor had their lawn sign stolen. It was pretty shocking.


I have, twice, had my pro-bike lane signs stolen, so there you go.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm a commuter from MD so you can hate on me, but in our newly hybrid world, I will come into my DC office much less when these changes go into effect. I will spend a lot less money in DC than I have over the past 20yrs. And I will be driving all over DC neighborhoods when I do have to drive downtown. Especially if Beach Drive remains closed. I'm sure the 10 families and 20 Lance Armstrong wanna-bes who use the bikes lanes will be super happy, but having traversed this route over decades, I can assure you that there will be total gridlock and more accidents.

I live on a busy street in MD that gets a lot of NIH commuter traffic, so I understand why residents want to find ways to incentivize options other than car travel. But realistically all the bike lane plan will accomplish is diverting traffic to neighborhood streets, creating huge traffic jams, and reducing interest in working in downtown offices. I know the NWDC crowd thinks that's awesome, but the people who run small businesses and their employees may be less enamored of a city leadership that is actively encouraging smaller numbers of daily visitors.


So, why aren't you going to the NIH metro stop and riding in? Seems a lot more humane.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm a commuter from MD so you can hate on me, but in our newly hybrid world, I will come into my DC office much less when these changes go into effect. I will spend a lot less money in DC than I have over the past 20yrs. And I will be driving all over DC neighborhoods when I do have to drive downtown. Especially if Beach Drive remains closed. I'm sure the 10 families and 20 Lance Armstrong wanna-bes who use the bikes lanes will be super happy, but having traversed this route over decades, I can assure you that there will be total gridlock and more accidents.

I live on a busy street in MD that gets a lot of NIH commuter traffic, so I understand why residents want to find ways to incentivize options other than car travel. But realistically all the bike lane plan will accomplish is diverting traffic to neighborhood streets, creating huge traffic jams, and reducing interest in working in downtown offices. I know the NWDC crowd thinks that's awesome, but the people who run small businesses and their employees may be less enamored of a city leadership that is actively encouraging smaller numbers of daily visitors.


Maybe you should take this energy and use it to advocate for traffic calming and transit in MoCo. It’s pretty hellish there, and one reason that I am likely staying in DC instead of moving to MoCo. In fact, the Ct Ave project is specifically one reason I might stay.

PS: you can drive to a metro station and metro in to DC. And no, you’re not going to be driving on side streets deep with Cleveland Park. That’s not actually how traffic works.


It's from Calvert Street to Chevy Chase Circle, not just Cleveland Park. There are a lot of side streets along that route and yes that is exactly how traffic works. If there's congestion then an alternate route is found.


It's actually to Legation Street, but whatever.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm a commuter from MD so you can hate on me, but in our newly hybrid world, I will come into my DC office much less when these changes go into effect. I will spend a lot less money in DC than I have over the past 20yrs. And I will be driving all over DC neighborhoods when I do have to drive downtown. Especially if Beach Drive remains closed. I'm sure the 10 families and 20 Lance Armstrong wanna-bes who use the bikes lanes will be super happy, but having traversed this route over decades, I can assure you that there will be total gridlock and more accidents.

I live on a busy street in MD that gets a lot of NIH commuter traffic, so I understand why residents want to find ways to incentivize options other than car travel. But realistically all the bike lane plan will accomplish is diverting traffic to neighborhood streets, creating huge traffic jams, and reducing interest in working in downtown offices. I know the NWDC crowd thinks that's awesome, but the people who run small businesses and their employees may be less enamored of a city leadership that is actively encouraging smaller numbers of daily visitors.


The quiet majority in DC agrees with you. Most of my neighbors had no idea this was the plan. We struggled these past two years to educate our kids and keep our families safe. We sort of knew there was an on-going discussion about safety on Connecticut Ave, but most thought it was about the reversible lanes and general pedestrian safety. Both important topics. But, it’s fairly shocking what a small, loud group of progressives activists were able to push through in plain sight. Let this be a warning to your neighbors.


BS. The only people I have spoken to who agree with you are over 70 and have lived in their houses for over 30 years. The overwhelming majority of the people who actually live here, cannot understand your 1950's era mentality. Most people want a safer and more livable Avenue,. Most people want options other than cars. Most people understand climate change is real. Most people understand that our cities are evolving away from car oriented transportation. The leadership in our ANCs, the Council and the Mayor are implementing this. THEY are our elected officials. THEY were voted in on a platform of safety, sustainability and liberal to progressive politics.

It is really just the very vocal deep minority that is expressing a pro-car, anti-safety agenda.


We had a neighbor speak out against this plan and the bike lobby doxed them to their employer. Another neighbor had their lawn sign stolen. It was pretty shocking.


Not a stolen lawn sign!! That's horrific. Have you informed the FBI?

And what exactly does doxxing someone to they're employer do when all they've done is voiced opposition to a bike lane? Do they work in a bike job? Like, I can't imagine a random company giving a crap.


You're actually defending that behavior?


I think they are saying PP is lying. Nobody got doxxed for being against bike lanes.


No. They really got doxed. Their work is somewhat environmentally related and this wacko thought their boss should “know what they do off the clock.” All this talk about “democracy” is laughable. A lot of people in the bike crowd are militant and slightly unhinged.

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