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Spending a bajillion dollars on bike lanes only to have people use them to park their cars and the city does nothing about it is the most DC thing ever. |
Traffic won't be screwed up. See the post someone else made that explains the reality of the lane usage. I mean, we have been through this before. The Wisconsin Avenue Giant redevelopment was going to be a traffic mess for Cleveland Park. It wasn't. The Emergency Shelter was going to bring a lot of undesirables to Cleveland Park and ruin the neighborhood. It hasn't. The former Babes redevelopment was going to be the end of parking in Tenleytown. Nope. The AU Law School was going to begrime Tenleiytown. It hasn't. The closure of the service lane in Cleveland Park was going to doom the businesses there. They are still there. Face it, you all fight about any change in the neighborhood and the bottom line, nothing has really changed. So enough with the hystrionics, it has been overplayed for decades to no avail. |
No really DC has not spent billions. I would be shocked if DC has even spent 50 million on bike lanes over the last 10 years. DC doesn't even have 20 miles of protected bike lanes in the entire city. Connecticut Avenue is estimated to cost about 8 million for 3 miles but that estimate includes a couple of hawk signals and some pedestrian islands and lots of design work. I'm pretty sure the CP streetscape improvement project is costing more by itself. Most of the bike lanes we have in DC are just paint and some signs which is to say they are very inexpensive projects - as in like $10-$15000 for an entire project. Just as an FYI DDOTs FY 2023 capital budget is $650 million, most of which goes towards repaving roads. DDOT has over 200 full time traffic engineers but just 2 staffers who work on bike lanes full time so on the personnel side as well spending on roads just swamps what is spent on bikes. |
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I'm a commuter from MD so you can hate on me, but in our newly hybrid world, I will come into my DC office much less when these changes go into effect. I will spend a lot less money in DC than I have over the past 20yrs. And I will be driving all over DC neighborhoods when I do have to drive downtown. Especially if Beach Drive remains closed. I'm sure the 10 families and 20 Lance Armstrong wanna-bes who use the bikes lanes will be super happy, but having traversed this route over decades, I can assure you that there will be total gridlock and more accidents.
I live on a busy street in MD that gets a lot of NIH commuter traffic, so I understand why residents want to find ways to incentivize options other than car travel. But realistically all the bike lane plan will accomplish is diverting traffic to neighborhood streets, creating huge traffic jams, and reducing interest in working in downtown offices. I know the NWDC crowd thinks that's awesome, but the people who run small businesses and their employees may be less enamored of a city leadership that is actively encouraging smaller numbers of daily visitors. |
The quiet majority in DC agrees with you. Most of my neighbors had no idea this was the plan. We struggled these past two years to educate our kids and keep our families safe. We sort of knew there was an on-going discussion about safety on Connecticut Ave, but most thought it was about the reversible lanes and general pedestrian safety. Both important topics. But, it’s fairly shocking what a small, loud group of progressives activists were able to push through in plain sight. Let this be a warning to your neighbors. |
BS. The only people I have spoken to who agree with you are over 70 and have lived in their houses for over 30 years. The overwhelming majority of the people who actually live here, cannot understand your 1950's era mentality. Most people want a safer and more livable Avenue,. Most people want options other than cars. Most people understand climate change is real. Most people understand that our cities are evolving away from car oriented transportation. The leadership in our ANCs, the Council and the Mayor are implementing this. THEY are our elected officials. THEY were voted in on a platform of safety, sustainability and liberal to progressive politics. It is really just the very vocal deep minority that is expressing a pro-car, anti-safety agenda. |
That is just absolutely divorced from reality. You've gotten high on your own supply. |
We already have traffic jams. The bike lanes, which are non-existent currently, are not causing them. Since we already have traffic jams, and no space or appetitie to increase car capacity, we need another way of moving people around. Make space for bikes is one of several strategies. Obviously doing what we are doing now, and continuing to do the same thing, is not the solution. |
Yup, you did not feel the need to be aware of what is going on in your community and be involved in decision-making. Do you even vote? |
Maybe if you got outside of your bubble, you would see how the rest of your neighbors, who you don't associated with, are thinking. Remember, only about 20% of of the people around Conn Avenue live in single family homes. If that is your litmus, then you are missing the voice of the other 80%. And most of the 20% who live in single family homes also disagree with you. |
More lies. That'd an awfully narrow definition of people around Connecticut Avenue. How are you defining it? |
We had a neighbor speak out against this plan and the bike lobby doxed them to their employer. Another neighbor had their lawn sign stolen. It was pretty shocking. |
Maybe you should take this energy and use it to advocate for traffic calming and transit in MoCo. It’s pretty hellish there, and one reason that I am likely staying in DC instead of moving to MoCo. In fact, the Ct Ave project is specifically one reason I might stay. PS: you can drive to a metro station and metro in to DC. And no, you’re not going to be driving on side streets deep with Cleveland Park. That’s not actually how traffic works. |
This *is* the plan for traffic calming and safety. |
Will you please take a break and actually read the documents on what the plan will do? So many people are here being “shocked” without actually informing themselves about the plan and its impact, mindlessly repeating falsehoods like “it will drive traffic to side streets.” Educate yourself, and until you do, honestly stfu. https://ddot.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ddot/page_content/attachments/02_Conn%20Ave_Public%20Meeting_LR%232-Traff-Parking_FINAL_04012021.pdf |