Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap

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Anonymous wrote:He said he pulled the hammer back and when he let it go, it fired. Well, duh.

I don't know a lot about guns, but I don't think that's how guns are supposed to work.

Yeah obviously not. A hammer is not a trigger.

The trigger pulls the hammer back, then releases it. He didn’t pull the trigger, he actually pulled the thing the trigger controls, bypassing the trigger. That is exactly how this type of gun is supposed to work….

Okay. As I said, I don't know a lot about guns. So you're saying the director and/or scriptwriter is at fault? For telling the actor to pull the hammer back and let it go?

No one told him to pull the hammer back. He doesn’t know much about guns, so probably didn’t know it would fire.
It’s the same type of gun you see in old west movies (that’s what they were filming). If you’ve seen any of those, there’s always a scene where someone pulls the hammer back (cocks the gun) to show they’re serious. That means the gun is ready to fire as soon as you pull the trigger (which releases the hammer). He says he released the hammer manually and the gun went off. Well that’s what it’s supposed to do.

If he just said, the gun was not supposed to be loaded and I had no idea it would fire, it’s a tragedy and I feel horrible, etc. people would accept that answer. It’s the “anyone’s fault but mine” that’s getting old.

You can feel that it's getting old. I suppose now you blame him, because his wife posts selfies.

He's been named in several law suits. I don't know how his liability insurance is structured, but on top of the grief and guilt, he gets to deal with that too.

I blame him because he pointed a gun at someone without checking, shot and killed a Woman. He is not blameless and is trying to blame anyone but him, including an object he was in control of. He’s not 100% at fault, but not 0.

Okay.

Please don't ever hand me a cold gun. Thanks.

Please don’t take someone’s word that the gun is cold and point it at me. Point it at yourself first.

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[Anonymous]

Not a fan of the Baldwins and their behavior in the aftermath of this tragedy is so grotesquely self-involved. Clearly people made horrific errors on the set with the handling of the gun. IMO that starts with people other than Baldwin - the armorer, the various other technical staff and directors who were responsible for the gun and the filming conditions. But at minimum, Baldwin has some moral responsibility for the gruesome death of his co-worker and for that reason alone he should STFU and get himself and his family out of the spotlight.

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Anonymous wrote:Not a fan of the Baldwins and their behavior in the aftermath of this tragedy is so grotesquely self-involved. Clearly people made horrific errors on the set with the handling of the gun. IMO that starts with people other than Baldwin - the armorer, the various other technical staff and directors who were responsible for the gun and the filming conditions. But at minimum, Baldwin has some moral responsibility for the gruesome death of his co-worker and for that reason alone he should STFU and get himself and his family out of the spotlight.

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There is a reason for the word hair trigger. It means once you Vick the gun it doesn’t take much for it to fire. It shouldn’t have been live in the first place but he should have checked anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a reason for the word hair trigger. It means once you Vick the gun it doesn’t take much for it to fire. It shouldn’t have been live in the first place but he should have checked anyway.

But why? If the gun was hair trigger and would shoot anytime after it had been cocked, it didn't really matter because it was a cold gun. There were no live bullets anywhere on the set, certainly none in the gun. They were rehearsing the gun draw, so he would probably draw it multiple times. Every time would be perfectly safe because the prop gun was cold.

Except there was a live bullet in it.

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Somewhere I read that the bullet supply company was filling their own bullets (yes you can do that) to save money and mixed them up with live rounds.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a reason for the word hair trigger. It means once you Vick the gun it doesn’t take much for it to fire. It shouldn’t have been live in the first place but he should have checked anyway.

But why? If the gun was hair trigger and would shoot anytime after it had been cocked, it didn't really matter because it was a cold gun. There were no live bullets anywhere on the set, certainly none in the gun. They were rehearsing the gun draw, so he would probably draw it multiple times. Every time would be perfectly safe because the prop gun was cold.

Except there was a live bullet in it.

And that's why you should always check before aiming, cocking, etc.

[Anonymous]

Alec Baldwin was in charge of the set. He created the atmosphere that led to this. Many people quit the day before because of conditions, resulting in an untrained “armorer” having a loaded weapon on the scene.
Also, the very first rule of gun safety is to treat EVERY gun as if loaded, and never point a weapon at anyone you don’t intend to shoot. Every person handling the gun is RESPONSIBLE for ensuring the gun is safe - this includes Baldwin.
Also, the screen actors guild regulations make it clear:
“Treat all weapons as though they are loaded and/or ready to use. Do not play with weapons and never point one at anyone, including yourself. Follow the directions of the Property Master and/or Weapons Handler regarding all weapons.”
If Baldwin was following the regulations, no one would be dead. End of story.

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I have only seen excerpts of this interview. I did hear him say that he didn’t even realize the director was shot for 45-60 minutes. He thought maybe she “fainted”?? Hmmm, wouldn’t he have seen BLOOD? Alec Baldwin has always been nutty, but he is scary delusional about this event. Why would he give this interview, including the one on the side of the road in VT? Next, his attorneys will be quitting the case.

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Anonymous wrote:Alec Baldwin was in charge of the set. He created the atmosphere that led to this. Many people quit the day before because of conditions, resulting in an untrained “armorer” having a loaded weapon on the scene.
Also, the very first rule of gun safety is to treat EVERY gun as if loaded, and never point a weapon at anyone you don’t intend to shoot. Every person handling the gun is RESPONSIBLE for ensuring the gun is safe - this includes Baldwin.
Also, the screen actors guild regulations make it clear:
“Treat all weapons as though they are loaded and/or ready to use. Do not play with weapons and never point one at anyone, including yourself. Follow the directions of the Property Master and/or Weapons Handler regarding all weapons.”
If Baldwin was following the regulations, no one would be dead. End of story.

When you have more of a grasp of facts, then come back to us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have only seen excerpts of this interview. I did hear him say that he didn’t even realize the director was shot for 45-60 minutes. He thought maybe she “fainted”?? Hmmm, wouldn’t he have seen BLOOD? Alec Baldwin has always been nutty, but he is scary delusional about this event. Why would he give this interview, including the one on the side of the road in VT? Next, his attorneys will be quitting the case.

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I can't believe his legal handlers permitted him to say those things. I felt so badly for him up to that point, but now I'm just shocked by his selfishness and denial. My heart goes out to the little boy who lost his mom and will someday see Baldwin's responses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have only seen excerpts of this interview. I did hear him say that he didn’t even realize the director was shot for 45-60 minutes. He thought maybe she “fainted”?? Hmmm, wouldn’t he have seen BLOOD? Alec Baldwin has always been nutty, but he is scary delusional about this event. Why would he give this interview, including the one on the side of the road in VT? Next, his attorneys will be quitting the case.

I didn't watch the interview but I know that the director, who was shot, is male.

Maybe before judging, understand who was saying what. I hope you're not a lawyer.

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Anonymous wrote:Alec Baldwin was in charge of the set. He created the atmosphere that led to this. Many people quit the day before because of conditions, resulting in an untrained “armorer” having a loaded weapon on the scene.
Also, the very first rule of gun safety is to treat EVERY gun as if loaded, and never point a weapon at anyone you don’t intend to shoot. Every person handling the gun is RESPONSIBLE for ensuring the gun is safe - this includes Baldwin.
Also, the screen actors guild regulations make it clear:
“Treat all weapons as though they are loaded and/or ready to use. Do not play with weapons and never point one at anyone, including yourself. Follow the directions of the Property Master and/or Weapons Handler regarding all weapons.”
If Baldwin was following the regulations, no one would be dead. End of story.

When you have more of a grasp of facts, then come back to us.

The fact is he killed someone and could have prevented it

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Alec Baldwin was in charge of the set. He created the atmosphere that led to this. Many people quit the day before because of conditions, resulting in an untrained “armorer” having a loaded weapon on the scene.
Also, the very first rule of gun safety is to treat EVERY gun as if loaded, and never point a weapon at anyone you don’t intend to shoot. Every person handling the gun is RESPONSIBLE for ensuring the gun is safe - this includes Baldwin.
Also, the screen actors guild regulations make it clear:
“Treat all weapons as though they are loaded and/or ready to use. Do not play with weapons and never point one at anyone, including yourself. Follow the directions of the Property Master and/or Weapons Handler regarding all weapons.”
If Baldwin was following the regulations, no one would be dead. End of story.

When you have more of a grasp of facts, then come back to us.

These are the facts. Sorry it doesn’t support your narrative that Baldwin is innocent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Alec Baldwin was in charge of the set. He created the atmosphere that led to this. Many people quit the day before because of conditions, resulting in an untrained “armorer” having a loaded weapon on the scene.
Also, the very first rule of gun safety is to treat EVERY gun as if loaded, and never point a weapon at anyone you don’t intend to shoot. Every person handling the gun is RESPONSIBLE for ensuring the gun is safe - this includes Baldwin.
Also, the screen actors guild regulations make it clear:
“Treat all weapons as though they are loaded and/or ready to use. Do not play with weapons and never point one at anyone, including yourself. Follow the directions of the Property Master and/or Weapons Handler regarding all weapons.”
If Baldwin was following the regulations, no one would be dead. End of story.

When you have more of a grasp of facts, then come back to us.

These are the facts. Sorry it doesn’t support your narrative that Baldwin is innocent.

No, Baldwin wasn't in charge of the set. That's a fake fact. Not a true fact.

No narrative. Stick to facts next time.