Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap

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Anonymous wrote:He said he pulled the hammer back and when he let it go, it fired. Well, duh.

I don't know a lot about guns, but I don't think that's how guns are supposed to work.

Yeah obviously not. A hammer is not a trigger.

The trigger pulls the hammer back, then releases it. He didn’t pull the trigger, he actually pulled the thing the trigger controls, bypassing the trigger. That is exactly how this type of gun is supposed to work….

Okay. As I said, I don't know a lot about guns. So you're saying the director and/or scriptwriter is at fault? For telling the actor to pull the hammer back and let it go?

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Anonymous wrote:This is crazy. Alec was messing with a gun and he shot someone. He is picking apart words and redefining them to somehow make it sound like he does not have any responsibility in this womens death. This is all some weird word game to him. What a fraud. And his wife too for also playing word games and making this whole mess about her husbands trauma. Wow

No, that's you picking apart words. He aimed an unloaded gun at a camera and then a woman was dead.

And some people are blaming him, which matters far less than the way he feels himself. Or the way her husband and children feel.

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What are you saying unloaded gun? It had a bullet.

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Anonymous wrote:This is crazy. Alec was messing with a gun and he shot someone. He is picking apart words and redefining them to somehow make it sound like he does not have any responsibility in this womens death. This is all some weird word game to him. What a fraud. And his wife too for also playing word games and making this whole mess about her husbands trauma. Wow

No, that's you picking apart words. He aimed an unloaded gun at a camera and then a woman was dead.

And some people are blaming him, which matters far less than the way he feels himself. Or the way her husband and children feel.

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What are you saying unloaded gun? It had a bullet.

There was never supposed to be any possibility of a live bullet being in the gun. Everyone there thought it was a cold gun.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is crazy. Alec was messing with a gun and he shot someone. He is picking apart words and redefining them to somehow make it sound like he does not have any responsibility in this womens death. This is all some weird word game to him. What a fraud. And his wife too for also playing word games and making this whole mess about her husbands trauma. Wow

I have no idea what actually happened on set. But if it’s true that someone handed him a prop gun that was supposed to have no live rounds in it, and all he did was cock the hammer and the gun somehow misfired a bullet, that is genuinely not his fault.

The gin did not misfire. A misfire is when it does not go off when you pull the trigger. The gun did exactly what guns do when you cock, and release, the hammer, they discharge a bullet.

I didn’t listen to the interview but it seems like he must have been saying he just pulled the hammer back to cock it and the gun went off, right?

But regardless, if the gun was supposed to have no bullets in it he is not culpable. This is a movie set, actors use dangerous props all the time. It’s fair for them to rely on the safety protocols that are supposed to be in place.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He said he pulled the hammer back and when he let it go, it fired. Well, duh.

I don't know a lot about guns, but I don't think that's how guns are supposed to work.

Yeah obviously not. A hammer is not a trigger.

The trigger pulls the hammer back, then releases it. He didn’t pull the trigger, he actually pulled the thing the trigger controls, bypassing the trigger. That is exactly how this type of gun is supposed to work….

Okay. As I said, I don't know a lot about guns. So you're saying the director and/or scriptwriter is at fault? For telling the actor to pull the hammer back and let it go?

No one told him to pull the hammer back. He doesn’t know much about guns, so probably didn’t know it would fire.
It’s the same type of gun you see in old west movies (that’s what they were filming). If you’ve seen any of those, there’s always a scene where someone pulls the hammer back (cocks the gun) to show they’re serious. That means the gun is ready to fire as soon as you pull the trigger (which releases the hammer). He says he released the hammer manually and the gun went off. Well that’s what it’s supposed to do.

If he just said, the gun was not supposed to be loaded and I had no idea it would fire, it’s a tragedy and I feel horrible, etc. people would accept that answer. It’s the “anyone’s fault but mine” that’s getting old.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is crazy. Alec was messing with a gun and he shot someone. He is picking apart words and redefining them to somehow make it sound like he does not have any responsibility in this womens death. This is all some weird word game to him. What a fraud. And his wife too for also playing word games and making this whole mess about her husbands trauma. Wow

I have no idea what actually happened on set. But if it’s true that someone handed him a prop gun that was supposed to have no live rounds in it, and all he did was cock the hammer and the gun somehow misfired a bullet, that is genuinely not his fault.

The gin did not misfire. A misfire is when it does not go off when you pull the trigger. The gun did exactly what guns do when you cock, and release, the hammer, they discharge a bullet.

I didn’t listen to the interview but it seems like he must have been saying he just pulled the hammer back to cock it and the gun went off, right?

But regardless, if the gun was supposed to have no bullets in it he is not culpable. This is a movie set, actors use dangerous props all the time. It’s fair for them to rely on the safety protocols that are supposed to be in place.

No, he said he pulled the hammer back and let it go.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is crazy. Alec was messing with a gun and he shot someone. He is picking apart words and redefining them to somehow make it sound like he does not have any responsibility in this womens death. This is all some weird word game to him. What a fraud. And his wife too for also playing word games and making this whole mess about her husbands trauma. Wow

I have no idea what actually happened on set. But if it’s true that someone handed him a prop gun that was supposed to have no live rounds in it, and all he did was cock the hammer and the gun somehow misfired a bullet, that is genuinely not his fault.

The gin did not misfire. A misfire is when it does not go off when you pull the trigger. The gun did exactly what guns do when you cock, and release, the hammer, they discharge a bullet.

I didn’t listen to the interview but it seems like he must have been saying he just pulled the hammer back to cock it and the gun went off, right?

But regardless, if the gun was supposed to have no bullets in it he is not culpable. This is a movie set, actors use dangerous props all the time. It’s fair for them to rely on the safety protocols that are supposed to be in place.

No, he said he pulled the hammer back and let it go.

Well that’s dumb of him and I don’t see why he thinks that helps his case.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He said he pulled the hammer back and when he let it go, it fired. Well, duh.

I don't know a lot about guns, but I don't think that's how guns are supposed to work.

Yeah obviously not. A hammer is not a trigger.

The trigger pulls the hammer back, then releases it. He didn’t pull the trigger, he actually pulled the thing the trigger controls, bypassing the trigger. That is exactly how this type of gun is supposed to work….

Okay. As I said, I don't know a lot about guns. So you're saying the director and/or scriptwriter is at fault? For telling the actor to pull the hammer back and let it go?

No one told him to pull the hammer back. He doesn’t know much about guns, so probably didn’t know it would fire.
It’s the same type of gun you see in old west movies (that’s what they were filming). If you’ve seen any of those, there’s always a scene where someone pulls the hammer back (cocks the gun) to show they’re serious. That means the gun is ready to fire as soon as you pull the trigger (which releases the hammer). He says he released the hammer manually and the gun went off. Well that’s what it’s supposed to do.

If he just said, the gun was not supposed to be loaded and I had no idea it would fire, it’s a tragedy and I feel horrible, etc. people would accept that answer. It’s the “anyone’s fault but mine” that’s getting old.

You can feel that it's getting old. I suppose now you blame him, because his wife posts selfies.

He's been named in several law suits. I don't know how his liability insurance is structured, but on top of the grief and guilt, he gets to deal with that too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is crazy. Alec was messing with a gun and he shot someone. He is picking apart words and redefining them to somehow make it sound like he does not have any responsibility in this womens death. This is all some weird word game to him. What a fraud. And his wife too for also playing word games and making this whole mess about her husbands trauma. Wow

I have no idea what actually happened on set. But if it’s true that someone handed him a prop gun that was supposed to have no live rounds in it, and all he did was cock the hammer and the gun somehow misfired a bullet, that is genuinely not his fault.

The gin did not misfire. A misfire is when it does not go off when you pull the trigger. The gun did exactly what guns do when you cock, and release, the hammer, they discharge a bullet.

I didn’t listen to the interview but it seems like he must have been saying he just pulled the hammer back to cock it and the gun went off, right?

But regardless, if the gun was supposed to have no bullets in it he is not culpable. This is a movie set, actors use dangerous props all the time. It’s fair for them to rely on the safety protocols that are supposed to be in place.

No, he said he pulled the hammer back and let it go.

Well that’s dumb of him and I don’t see why he thinks that helps his case.

Helps what case? His trial in the court of public opinion? Probably doesn't hurt him more than it helps.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He said he pulled the hammer back and when he let it go, it fired. Well, duh.

I don't know a lot about guns, but I don't think that's how guns are supposed to work.

Yeah obviously not. A hammer is not a trigger.

The trigger pulls the hammer back, then releases it. He didn’t pull the trigger, he actually pulled the thing the trigger controls, bypassing the trigger. That is exactly how this type of gun is supposed to work….

Okay. As I said, I don't know a lot about guns. So you're saying the director and/or scriptwriter is at fault? For telling the actor to pull the hammer back and let it go?

No one told him to pull the hammer back. He doesn’t know much about guns, so probably didn’t know it would fire.
It’s the same type of gun you see in old west movies (that’s what they were filming). If you’ve seen any of those, there’s always a scene where someone pulls the hammer back (cocks the gun) to show they’re serious. That means the gun is ready to fire as soon as you pull the trigger (which releases the hammer). He says he released the hammer manually and the gun went off. Well that’s what it’s supposed to do.

If he just said, the gun was not supposed to be loaded and I had no idea it would fire, it’s a tragedy and I feel horrible, etc. people would accept that answer. It’s the “anyone’s fault but mine” that’s getting old.

You can feel that it's getting old. I suppose now you blame him, because his wife posts selfies.

He's been named in several law suits. I don't know how his liability insurance is structured, but on top of the grief and guilt, he gets to deal with that too.

I blame him because he pointed a gun at someone without checking, shot and killed a Woman. He is not blameless and is trying to blame anyone but him, including an object he was in control of. He’s not 100% at fault, but not 0.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He said he pulled the hammer back and when he let it go, it fired. Well, duh.

I don't know a lot about guns, but I don't think that's how guns are supposed to work.

Yeah obviously not. A hammer is not a trigger.

The trigger pulls the hammer back, then releases it. He didn’t pull the trigger, he actually pulled the thing the trigger controls, bypassing the trigger. That is exactly how this type of gun is supposed to work….

Okay. As I said, I don't know a lot about guns. So you're saying the director and/or scriptwriter is at fault? For telling the actor to pull the hammer back and let it go?

No one told him to pull the hammer back. He doesn’t know much about guns, so probably didn’t know it would fire.
It’s the same type of gun you see in old west movies (that’s what they were filming). If you’ve seen any of those, there’s always a scene where someone pulls the hammer back (cocks the gun) to show they’re serious. That means the gun is ready to fire as soon as you pull the trigger (which releases the hammer). He says he released the hammer manually and the gun went off. Well that’s what it’s supposed to do.

If he just said, the gun was not supposed to be loaded and I had no idea it would fire, it’s a tragedy and I feel horrible, etc. people would accept that answer. It’s the “anyone’s fault but mine” that’s getting old.

You can feel that it's getting old. I suppose now you blame him, because his wife posts selfies.

He's been named in several law suits. I don't know how his liability insurance is structured, but on top of the grief and guilt, he gets to deal with that too.

I blame him because he pointed a gun at someone without checking, shot and killed a Woman. He is not blameless and is trying to blame anyone but him, including an object he was in control of. He’s not 100% at fault, but not 0.

Okay.

Please don't ever hand me a cold gun. Thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is crazy. Alec was messing with a gun and he shot someone. He is picking apart words and redefining them to somehow make it sound like he does not have any responsibility in this womens death. This is all some weird word game to him. What a fraud. And his wife too for also playing word games and making this whole mess about her husbands trauma. Wow

I have no idea what actually happened on set. But if it’s true that someone handed him a prop gun that was supposed to have no live rounds in it, and all he did was cock the hammer and the gun somehow misfired a bullet, that is genuinely not his fault.

The gin did not misfire. A misfire is when it does not go off when you pull the trigger. The gun did exactly what guns do when you cock, and release, the hammer, they discharge a bullet.

I didn’t listen to the interview but it seems like he must have been saying he just pulled the hammer back to cock it and the gun went off, right?

But regardless, if the gun was supposed to have no bullets in it he is not culpable. This is a movie set, actors use dangerous props all the time. It’s fair for them to rely on the safety protocols that are supposed to be in place.

No, he said he pulled the hammer back and let it go.

Well that’s dumb of him and I don’t see why he thinks that helps his case.

Helps what case? His trial in the court of public opinion? Probably doesn't hurt him more than it helps.

Yes, obviously his trial in the court of public opinion, which is what he was giving sit down interview to persuade.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is crazy. Alec was messing with a gun and he shot someone. He is picking apart words and redefining them to somehow make it sound like he does not have any responsibility in this womens death. This is all some weird word game to him. What a fraud. And his wife too for also playing word games and making this whole mess about her husbands trauma. Wow

No, that's you picking apart words. He aimed an unloaded gun at a camera and then a woman was dead.

And some people are blaming him, which matters far less than the way he feels himself. Or the way her husband and children feel.

This sentence is false. He aimed a LOADED gun at a woman, self admittedly cocked the hammer and then manually let it go (resulting in releasing the bullet). Yes he thought the gun wasn’t loaded but what he is describing is shooting the gun. Then he proceeds to say he has no responsibility in this.

I agree with the poster that says he is not 100% at fault but he is also certainly not 0% at fault either.

Anyway, just my opinion but this will all be reviewed and decided in court now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He said he pulled the hammer back and when he let it go, it fired. Well, duh.

I don't know a lot about guns, but I don't think that's how guns are supposed to work.

Yeah obviously not. A hammer is not a trigger.

The trigger pulls the hammer back, then releases it. He didn’t pull the trigger, he actually pulled the thing the trigger controls, bypassing the trigger. That is exactly how this type of gun is supposed to work….

Okay. As I said, I don't know a lot about guns. So you're saying the director and/or scriptwriter is at fault? For telling the actor to pull the hammer back and let it go?

No one told him to pull the hammer back. He doesn’t know much about guns, so probably didn’t know it would fire.
It’s the same type of gun you see in old west movies (that’s what they were filming). If you’ve seen any of those, there’s always a scene where someone pulls the hammer back (cocks the gun) to show they’re serious. That means the gun is ready to fire as soon as you pull the trigger (which releases the hammer). He says he released the hammer manually and the gun went off. Well that’s what it’s supposed to do.

If he just said, the gun was not supposed to be loaded and I had no idea it would fire, it’s a tragedy and I feel horrible, etc. people would accept that answer. It’s the “anyone’s fault but mine” that’s getting old.

You can feel that it's getting old. I suppose now you blame him, because his wife posts selfies.

He's been named in several law suits. I don't know how his liability insurance is structured, but on top of the grief and guilt, he gets to deal with that too.

I blame him because he pointed a gun at someone without checking, shot and killed a Woman. He is not blameless and is trying to blame anyone but him, including an object he was in control of. He’s not 100% at fault, but not 0.

Okay.

Please don't ever hand me a cold gun. Thanks.

Please don’t take someone’s word that the gun is cold and point it at me. Point it at yourself first.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He said he pulled the hammer back and when he let it go, it fired. Well, duh.

I don't know a lot about guns, but I don't think that's how guns are supposed to work.

Yeah obviously not. A hammer is not a trigger.

The trigger pulls the hammer back, then releases it. He didn’t pull the trigger, he actually pulled the thing the trigger controls, bypassing the trigger. That is exactly how this type of gun is supposed to work….

Okay. As I said, I don't know a lot about guns. So you're saying the director and/or scriptwriter is at fault? For telling the actor to pull the hammer back and let it go?

No one told him to pull the hammer back. He doesn’t know much about guns, so probably didn’t know it would fire.
It’s the same type of gun you see in old west movies (that’s what they were filming). If you’ve seen any of those, there’s always a scene where someone pulls the hammer back (cocks the gun) to show they’re serious. That means the gun is ready to fire as soon as you pull the trigger (which releases the hammer). He says he released the hammer manually and the gun went off. Well that’s what it’s supposed to do.

If he just said, the gun was not supposed to be loaded and I had no idea it would fire, it’s a tragedy and I feel horrible, etc. people would accept that answer. It’s the “anyone’s fault but mine” that’s getting old.

You can feel that it's getting old. I suppose now you blame him, because his wife posts selfies.

He's been named in several law suits. I don't know how his liability insurance is structured, but on top of the grief and guilt, he gets to deal with that too.

I blame him because he pointed a gun at someone without checking, shot and killed a Woman. He is not blameless and is trying to blame anyone but him, including an object he was in control of. He’s not 100% at fault, but not 0.

Okay.

Please don't ever hand me a cold gun. Thanks.

Please don’t take someone’s word that the gun is cold and point it at me. Point it at yourself first.

I won't take your word about a gun or about anything.