FCPS comprehensive boundary review

[Anonymous]

They’d keep a certain group of people happy if they moved Chantilly kids to Westfield, and then Westfield to Herndon.

I see this happening before they touch Langley.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is there anywhere to find out what schools in particular are being considered for rezoning and what specific changes are being proposed, or is that going to be shared at the regional boundary meetings?

The closest they’ve ever come is this large presentation, which has the capacity situation at every school and the possible “remedies” for that school. https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Adopted-CIP-2025-29.pdf

But if they really are reworking the boundaries from scratch, anything could be on the table. Now I’m not convinced that’s the route they’re going to take, it may be more likely that they clean up the attendance islands, split feeders, and the few places where kids have a long bus ride to a crowded school vs. a potentially shorter bus ride to a less crowded school.

I’ve heard that they are NOT starting from scratch, that the current boundaries will be taken as the starting point instead, and that stability is an important factor right along with the priorities listed in their presentation. But if that’s true I’m not clear why they don’t include that info in the published materials.

If they truly start from scratch, that means more changes and the ability to grandfather goes out the window pretty quickly. And if they don't grandfather at the HS level, in particular, the opposition ratchets up substantially. Doubt they want that level of community opposition.

Well shucks now I’m just plum confused. I keep hearing it’s about the distance to a school (Forestville) because that alone will purportedly save money (distance as the sole factor is absurd, but that’s what I keep hearing from you all, because that’s frankly all you got) and that they won’t be focused on overcapacity or undercapacity (Centreville and chantilly 1200 students overcapacity). (Btw, expansion costs hundreds of millions of dollars, bus time runs about $25 an hour, but your push for pure distance is incredibly transparent).

But now I hear they’ll allow liberal grandfathering which will significantly overrun any purported transportation savings. (Before you say they can just allow grandfathering without transportation ask yourself how equitable that sounds.)

I guess y’all need to get on the same page on this equity BS or else this thing is going to turn into a real mess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They’d keep a certain group of people happy if they moved Chantilly kids to Westfield, and then Westfield to Herndon.

I see this happening before they touch Langley.

The closest Westfield feeder to Herndon is Coates. Coates was 64% FARMS last year. While a sliver of Coates already feeds to Herndon, they'd be moving the rest of a 64% FARMS school to a school that was 55% FARMS last year.

As between moving Coates or Forestville to Herndon, I think Robyn Lady, who lives in Herndon, would push for moving Forestville instead.

Or, they might not do anything, and just wait for Centreville to get expanded, which could also provide relief to Chantilly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They’d keep a certain group of people happy if they moved Chantilly kids to Westfield, and then Westfield to Herndon.

I see this happening before they touch Langley.

Chantilly parents will throw a fit over being moved to Westfield, generally seen as an inferior school.

[Anonymous]

The other issue is the Westfield kids who would logically be moved to Herndon would not help Herndon's FARMs numbers as those are poorer areas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there anywhere to find out what schools in particular are being considered for rezoning and what specific changes are being proposed, or is that going to be shared at the regional boundary meetings?

The closest they’ve ever come is this large presentation, which has the capacity situation at every school and the possible “remedies” for that school. https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Adopted-CIP-2025-29.pdf

But if they really are reworking the boundaries from scratch, anything could be on the table. Now I’m not convinced that’s the route they’re going to take, it may be more likely that they clean up the attendance islands, split feeders, and the few places where kids have a long bus ride to a crowded school vs. a potentially shorter bus ride to a less crowded school.

I’ve heard that they are NOT starting from scratch, that the current boundaries will be taken as the starting point instead, and that stability is an important factor right along with the priorities listed in their presentation. But if that’s true I’m not clear why they don’t include that info in the published materials.

If they truly start from scratch, that means more changes and the ability to grandfather goes out the window pretty quickly. And if they don't grandfather at the HS level, in particular, the opposition ratchets up substantially. Doubt they want that level of community opposition.

Well shucks now I’m just plum confused. I keep hearing it’s about the distance to a school (Forestville) because that alone will purportedly save money (distance as the sole factor is absurd, but that’s what I keep hearing from you all, because that’s frankly all you got) and that they won’t be focused on overcapacity or undercapacity (Centreville and chantilly 1200 students overcapacity). (Btw, expansion costs hundreds of millions of dollars, bus time runs about $25 an hour, but your push for pure distance is incredibly transparent).

But now I hear they’ll allow liberal grandfathering which will significantly overrun any purported transportation savings. (Before you say they can just allow grandfathering without transportation ask yourself how equitable that sounds.)

I guess y’all need to get on the same page on this equity BS or else this thing is going to turn into a real mess.

Blah blah blah.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They’d keep a certain group of people happy if they moved Chantilly kids to Westfield, and then Westfield to Herndon.

I see this happening before they touch Langley.

Chantilly parents will throw a fit over being moved to Westfield, generally seen as an inferior school.

Chantilly parents don't mind sending their kids to an overcrowded school. They love their school!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They’d keep a certain group of people happy if they moved Chantilly kids to Westfield, and then Westfield to Herndon.

I see this happening before they touch Langley.

Chantilly parents will throw a fit over being moved to Westfield, generally seen as an inferior school.

Chantilly parents don't mind sending their kids to an overcrowded school. They love their school!!

Forestville loves our community schools too, so what’s your point. People pushing for boundary changes don’t care about these students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They’d keep a certain group of people happy if they moved Chantilly kids to Westfield, and then Westfield to Herndon.

I see this happening before they touch Langley.

Chantilly parents will throw a fit over being moved to Westfield, generally seen as an inferior school.

Chantilly parents don't mind sending their kids to an overcrowded school. They love their school!!

Forestville loves our community schools too, so what’s your point. People pushing for boundary changes don’t care about these students.

Changing the school an ES matriculates to doesn't change the community of that school. Unless you're trying to say that Forestville is part of the Langley community, which is like, Elastigirl levels of stretching, didn't think that was possible in real life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They’d keep a certain group of people happy if they moved Chantilly kids to Westfield, and then Westfield to Herndon.

I see this happening before they touch Langley.

Chantilly parents will throw a fit over being moved to Westfield, generally seen as an inferior school.

Chantilly parents don't mind sending their kids to an overcrowded school. They love their school!!

Forestville loves our community schools too, so what’s your point. People pushing for boundary changes don’t care about these students.

Changing the school an ES matriculates to doesn't change the community of that school. Unless you're trying to say that Forestville is part of the Langley community, which is like, Elastigirl levels of stretching, didn't think that was possible in real life.

Great to hear that centreville and chantilly are good with while elementary school moves! That’ll be what’s required to alleviate overcrowding at the schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Herndon parent, and have not posted on this thread for some weeks, so do not come at me for these recent posts.

Personally, I really don’t care about the equity stuff. My kid is doing just fine at Herndon. She has lots of friends, great teachers, excellent coaches, blah, blah, blah. We don’t need any Langley kids to come and “save” our, what some call, undesired school. We do just fine, thank you very much!

What I do care about are my taxes paying for inefficient bus routes. I would also be annoyed if I had to share my commute to work with a bunch of teenage drivers clogging up the roads driving all the way to Langley, from the Fairfax-Loudoun border. Make it make sense.

Well said.

What the Langley parents either don’t understand or understand but don’t like is that the SB is going to look at other factors besides overcrowding.

If they can send students to two schools, neither of which is overcrowded but one of which is closer, they very well may move kids to the closer school

Or maybe they won’t. I don’t get the sense that anyone really wants more Langley families at their school - they are obviously extremely high-maintenance. But the old paradigm of only redistricting if a school is overcrowded and kids can be moved to a higher rated school no longer applies.

Langley families understand that the school board is not motivated by efficiency or travel times (you all aren’t either). We understand many dcum posters don’t like us because of the zip code, even without knowing anyone from said zip code.

It’ll be funny to see people who are in favor of soaking great falls negatively impacted by the school board’s moves. For each political action is an equal and opposite reaction. The law of unintended consequences.

+100
I honestly believe the rabid posters who clearly have an anti-Langley/Great Falls agenda are going to face karma at some point by having their own kids rezoned. It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a Herndon parent, and have not posted on this thread for some weeks, so do not come at me for these recent posts.

Personally, I really don’t care about the equity stuff. My kid is doing just fine at Herndon. She has lots of friends, great teachers, excellent coaches, blah, blah, blah. We don’t need any Langley kids to come and “save” our, what some call, undesired school. We do just fine, thank you very much!

What I do care about are my taxes paying for inefficient bus routes. I would also be annoyed if I had to share my commute to work with a bunch of teenage drivers clogging up the roads driving all the way to Langley, from the Fairfax-Loudoun border. Make it make sense.

Well said.

What the Langley parents either don’t understand or understand but don’t like is that the SB is going to look at other factors besides overcrowding.

If they can send students to two schools, neither of which is overcrowded but one of which is closer, they very well may move kids to the closer school

Or maybe they won’t. I don’t get the sense that anyone really wants more Langley families at their school - they are obviously extremely high-maintenance. But the old paradigm of only redistricting if a school is overcrowded and kids can be moved to a higher rated school no longer applies.

Langley families understand that the school board is not motivated by efficiency or travel times (you all aren’t either). We understand many dcum posters don’t like us because of the zip code, even without knowing anyone from said zip code.

It’ll be funny to see people who are in favor of soaking great falls negatively impacted by the school board’s moves. For each political action is an equal and opposite reaction. The law of unintended consequences.

No one cares about your zip code but the mix of entitlement and self-pity is off-putting.

DP. On the contrary - all of your posts say otherwise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a Herndon parent, and have not posted on this thread for some weeks, so do not come at me for these recent posts.

Personally, I really don’t care about the equity stuff. My kid is doing just fine at Herndon. She has lots of friends, great teachers, excellent coaches, blah, blah, blah. We don’t need any Langley kids to come and “save” our, what some call, undesired school. We do just fine, thank you very much!

What I do care about are my taxes paying for inefficient bus routes. I would also be annoyed if I had to share my commute to work with a bunch of teenage drivers clogging up the roads driving all the way to Langley, from the Fairfax-Loudoun border. Make it make sense.

Well said.

What the Langley parents either don’t understand or understand but don’t like is that the SB is going to look at other factors besides overcrowding.

If they can send students to two schools, neither of which is overcrowded but one of which is closer, they very well may move kids to the closer school

Or maybe they won’t. I don’t get the sense that anyone really wants more Langley families at their school - they are obviously extremely high-maintenance. But the old paradigm of only redistricting if a school is overcrowded and kids can be moved to a higher rated school no longer applies.

Langley families understand that the school board is not motivated by efficiency or travel times (you all aren’t either). We understand many dcum posters don’t like us because of the zip code, even without knowing anyone from said zip code.

It’ll be funny to see people who are in favor of soaking great falls negatively impacted by the school board’s moves. For each political action is an equal and opposite reaction. The law of unintended consequences.

No one cares about your zip code but the mix of entitlement and self-pity is off-putting.

DP. On the contrary - all of your posts say otherwise.

Bingo. Imagine being that obsessed about redistricting particular kids because of their zip code.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Distance should absolutely be one factor in determining schools, unless we are totally doing away with the structure as it is and going to vouchers or school choice or something like that. Why are there Great Falls and Herndon addresses going to Langley anyways? I’ve heard some Herndon families talk about how it can take upwards of half hour (conservatively) to get home after after-school activities. It straight up looks like gerrymandering/segregation.

+1

Forestville is low hanging fruit to be sent to HHS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Distance should absolutely be one factor in determining schools, unless we are totally doing away with the structure as it is and going to vouchers or school choice or something like that. Why are there Great Falls and Herndon addresses going to Langley anyways? I’ve heard some Herndon families talk about how it can take upwards of half hour (conservatively) to get home after after-school activities. It straight up looks like gerrymandering/segregation.

Because many Great Falls addresses are closer to Langley than to Herndon?

DP. Almost anything west of Walker Road (so much of Great Falls) will be closer to Herndon than to Langley.

It takes 5-8 mins from Holly Knoll to get to HHS. It takes 30 mins easily to get from Holly Knoll to LHS.

Forestville is getting sent to HHS. End of story.

What school do your kids attend?
DP