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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Causal driveby observer with kids in a different DC school and I think it’s hilarious how badly the Maury families will get screwed.

Thanks for nothing.

Ok-just slow down-these are children, mostly under 10-like what kind of fights and outbreaks are you referring to, because that comment is biased, completely unfair to automatically label all Miner students as disruptive and going to cause fights.

Are you so racist that you hallucinated the previous comment mentioned fights and outbreaks?

She doesn’t even go here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Causal driveby observer with kids in a different DC school and I think it’s hilarious how badly the Maury families will get screwed.

Thanks for nothing.

Ok-just slow down-these are children, mostly under 10-like what kind of fights and outbreaks are you referring to, because that comment is biased, completely unfair to automatically label all Miner students as disruptive and going to cause fights.

Are you so racist that you hallucinated the previous comment mentioned fights and outbreaks?

Really? Its like you want to start an anonymous fight you weirdo

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Causal driveby observer with kids in a different DC school and I think it’s hilarious how badly the Maury families will get screwed.

Thanks for nothing.

Ok-just slow down-these are children, mostly under 10-like what kind of fights and outbreaks are you referring to, because that comment is biased, completely unfair to automatically label all Miner students as disruptive and going to cause fights.

Are you so racist that you hallucinated the previous comment mentioned fights and outbreaks?

Really? Its like you want to start an anonymous fight you weirdo

Keep thinking PP said anything about fights.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Causal driveby observer with kids in a different DC school and I think it’s hilarious how badly the Maury families will get screwed.

Thanks for nothing.

Ok-just slow down-these are children, mostly under 10-like what kind of fights and outbreaks are you referring to, because that comment is biased, completely unfair to automatically label all Miner students as disruptive and going to cause fights.

Are you so racist that you hallucinated the previous comment mentioned fights and outbreaks?

She doesn’t even go here.

here.

5). At least you admit you aren’t supposed to say the “not in my backyard” comment out loud. But you did. You make all these comments about fights in class and outbursts. Why don’t you just say “I don’t want poor Black kids in my class.” And yes I may have made the race comment but we all know what you meant.

This was the comment i was referring to, for clarification.

[Anonymous]

Hey all. Billy Lynch here, your local fair housing attorney who specializes in housing and school integration. Thought I’d drop some evidenced-based research into this riveting anonymous discussion. TLDR- integrated schools help all students and do not affect white student performance.

http://school-diversity.org/pdf/DiversityResearchBriefNo10.pdf

Integrationists in this thread: I see you and applaud you.

[Anonymous]

I'm a parent in the Hill, not at either of these schools, and wow is this thread confirming all my worst suspicions about what some of you really think. We are MC, rent, and lotteried into a decent elementary. But I've always suspected many of you think that your ability to afford a million dollar row home or ditch for private at middle school makes you better, more worthy people. And the nastiness and rudeness of these comments! True colors, shining through.

I will remember this thread the next time people are saying all the progressive partly line things about public education. Now I know what some of you really think. We're not all in this together, are we?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hey all. Billy Lynch here, your local fair housing attorney who specializes in housing and school integration. Thought I’d drop some evidenced-based research into this riveting anonymous discussion. TLDR- integrated schools help all students and do not affect white student performance.

http://school-diversity.org/pdf/DiversityResearchBriefNo10.pdf

Integrationists in this thread: I see you and applaud you.

I applaud you for being the one person who has shed the mask of anonymity here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a parent in the Hill, not at either of these schools, and wow is this thread confirming all my worst suspicions about what some of you really think. We are MC, rent, and lotteried into a decent elementary. But I've always suspected many of you think that your ability to afford a million dollar row home or ditch for private at middle school makes you better, more worthy people. And the nastiness and rudeness of these comments! True colors, shining through.

I will remember this thread the next time people are saying all the progressive partly line things about public education. Now I know what some of you really think. We're not all in this together, are we?

No, we really aren’t are we.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hey all. Billy Lynch here, your local fair housing attorney who specializes in housing and school integration. Thought I’d drop some evidenced-based research into this riveting anonymous discussion. TLDR- integrated schools help all students and do not affect white student performance.

http://school-diversity.org/pdf/DiversityResearchBriefNo10.pdf

Integrationists in this thread: I see you and applaud you.

Bless you, but these people do not care about that. They don't want the yucky poor people diluting their pure, good, rich person school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Causal driveby observer with kids in a different DC school and I think it’s hilarious how badly the Maury families will get screwed.

Thanks for nothing.

Ok-just slow down-these are children, mostly under 10-like what kind of fights and outbreaks are you referring to, because that comment is biased, completely unfair to automatically label all Miner students as disruptive and going to cause fights.

Are you so racist that you hallucinated the previous comment mentioned fights and outbreaks?

She doesn’t even go here.

here.

5). At least you admit you aren’t supposed to say the “not in my backyard” comment out loud. But you did. You make all these comments about fights in class and outbursts. Why don’t you just say “I don’t want poor Black kids in my class.” And yes I may have made the race comment but we all know what you meant.

This was the comment i was referring to, for clarification.

Oh yes that seems to be in response to another poster saying she didn’t want her kid going to school with at risk kids who have outbursts in class and start fights (and yea clearly aimed at the Miner kids). Thank you for clarifying. I apologize for my attempt at humor with my “Mean Girls” quote at your expense (we needed some humor tonight but it fell flat).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am so disheartened by the anonymous Karens up in this thread about how Maury is going to be destroyed when combined with Miner. Geez- can they sit at the same lunch counter at the Roost too? All evidence shows that kids do well when they are in racially and socioeconoimcally diverse schools. 1% white kids at Maury will benefit from not living in an educational bubble, as will socioecoonomcally disadvantaged Black kids at Miner. And problems in our community will improve when integration occurs. The segregation that has resulted between the two schools cannot persist. In bounds for Miner and a former Moner family, there are wonderful families, Black and White, wealthy, poor and middle class, at Miner. I sure thought I was in Biloxi for a moment, not Capitol Hill.

And where are your kids now?

Maury is already integrated so save your accusations of racism. There is zero evidence this will do anything to narrow the achievement gap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so disheartened by the anonymous Karens up in this thread about how Maury is going to be destroyed when combined with Miner. Geez- can they sit at the same lunch counter at the Roost too? All evidence shows that kids do well when they are in racially and socioeconoimcally diverse schools. 1% white kids at Maury will benefit from not living in an educational bubble, as will socioecoonomcally disadvantaged Black kids at Miner. And problems in our community will improve when integration occurs. The segregation that has resulted between the two schools cannot persist. In bounds for Miner and a former Moner family, there are wonderful families, Black and White, wealthy, poor and middle class, at Miner. I sure thought I was in Biloxi for a moment, not Capitol Hill.

And where are your kids now?

Maury is already integrated so save your accusations of racism. There is zero evidence this will do anything to narrow the achievement gap.

Yes totally integrated with its 12% at risk population.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People choose Miner for a lot of reasons. They don't want language instruction or they don't want Montessori for whatever reason. Or because they think Two Rivers stinks. Same for SSMA. Or because they want Eliot-Hine rights. Or because they need a self-contained classrooms and Miner's what they're offered.

"I'm choosing Miner because it gives me a path to EH." Said no one, ever, on Earth.

More myopia.

If you lived East of the river, you absolutely would seek out an EH feed. Where do you think all the OOB kids at EH and Eastern come from, friend?

By the way, if you are a Maury parent and this is your attitude about its MS feed, go ahead and leave because of the cluster. You were always going to leave anyway, and you aren't really the asset to the community you think you are.

That's a silly response. The people whom you dismiss are invested in trying to keep their ES on a positive track, and by association, EH on a positive trajectory. If those people pull out you'll have an EH with 60% at risk and 20% special ed. Sure, your kid and every other one in that school will be in a failing environment, but at least you'll feel morally superior. After all that's what counts, right?

Like it or not, UMC families who attend DCPS schools are an asset. Don't take my word for it, ask DME and DCPS. They're about to upend two schools to spread around the very people you dismiss. You don't have to like us, but you darn well sure need us to have a functioning public school system. If that hurts to hear, TFB.

The problem isn’t that you are seen as unneeded. The problem (and I’m not speaking about you personally) is that some of the UMC people look down on the at risk students. One person on that townhall even used the words “dilute our population.” And those comments stand out, even if they aren’t representative of a community as a whole.

I hear what you are saying and I understand the sentiment. I would ask you to consider what it means to "look down on" at risk students. If I don't want 60% of my school to be at risk, is that "looking down on" them? Or is that an acknowledgement that all data tells us the challenges that come with at risk require significant resources and that those kids tend to need intervention to catch up. Is it "looking down on at risk" to want my above grade level kid to be catered to as well, with coursework appropriate to their level and not just being warehoused?

I understand why "dilute" is a cringy and imprecise way to describe the issue. If we take our Language Police Hats off for a moment and react to what they meant, are they wrong to have expressed concern that if the demographics shift there may well be some challenges that accompany that? Do they not have the right to express that concern?

Sure that’s fair. Everyone has the right to express concerns. It’s also fair to say hey, step up and help your neighbors by ensuring even kids who don’t have your advantages get a good education. Because even if your school is suddenly more at risk, your specific child isn’t going to be directly affected. He’s still going to get good grades. He’s still going to score well on PARCC (or whatever the new test they have switched to is called). And now a kid who is at risk is going to have access to a school with stability and support. And your kid’s school might be a 4 star or even a 3 star instead of a 5, but it’s not going to hurt him because there are still going to be the high performing kids at Maury play even a few from Miner (they’re rare but they exist).

this is a fairy tale.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People choose Miner for a lot of reasons. They don't want language instruction or they don't want Montessori for whatever reason. Or because they think Two Rivers stinks. Same for SSMA. Or because they want Eliot-Hine rights. Or because they need a self-contained classrooms and Miner's what they're offered.

"I'm choosing Miner because it gives me a path to EH." Said no one, ever, on Earth.

More myopia.

If you lived East of the river, you absolutely would seek out an EH feed. Where do you think all the OOB kids at EH and Eastern come from, friend?

By the way, if you are a Maury parent and this is your attitude about its MS feed, go ahead and leave because of the cluster. You were always going to leave anyway, and you aren't really the asset to the community you think you are.

That's a silly response. The people whom you dismiss are invested in trying to keep their ES on a positive track, and by association, EH on a positive trajectory. If those people pull out you'll have an EH with 60% at risk and 20% special ed. Sure, your kid and every other one in that school will be in a failing environment, but at least you'll feel morally superior. After all that's what counts, right?

Like it or not, UMC families who attend DCPS schools are an asset. Don't take my word for it, ask DME and DCPS. They're about to upend two schools to spread around the very people you dismiss. You don't have to like us, but you darn well sure need us to have a functioning public school system. If that hurts to hear, TFB.

The problem isn’t that you are seen as unneeded. The problem (and I’m not speaking about you personally) is that some of the UMC people look down on the at risk students. One person on that townhall even used the words “dilute our population.” And those comments stand out, even if they aren’t representative of a community as a whole.

I hear what you are saying and I understand the sentiment. I would ask you to consider what it means to "look down on" at risk students. If I don't want 60% of my school to be at risk, is that "looking down on" them? Or is that an acknowledgement that all data tells us the challenges that come with at risk require significant resources and that those kids tend to need intervention to catch up. Is it "looking down on at risk" to want my above grade level kid to be catered to as well, with coursework appropriate to their level and not just being warehoused?

I understand why "dilute" is a cringy and imprecise way to describe the issue. If we take our Language Police Hats off for a moment and react to what they meant, are they wrong to have expressed concern that if the demographics shift there may well be some challenges that accompany that? Do they not have the right to express that concern?

Sure that’s fair. Everyone has the right to express concerns. It’s also fair to say hey, step up and help your neighbors by ensuring even kids who don’t have your advantages get a good education. Because even if your school is suddenly more at risk, your specific child isn’t going to be directly affected. He’s still going to get good grades. He’s still going to score well on PARCC (or whatever the new test they have switched to is called). And now a kid who is at risk is going to have access to a school with stability and support. And your kid’s school might be a 4 star or even a 3 star instead of a 5, but it’s not going to hurt him because there are still going to be the high performing kids at Maury play even a few from Miner (they’re rare but they exist).

this is a fairy tale.

It’s only a fairy tale because the Maury families who are so outspoken here are treating Miner kids and families like garbage. This could be reality. In fact, the way Maury was 15 years ago versus the way the school is now is evidence that it’s real if people put in the work. But other Maury families on this board have made it clear they think Miner kids cause fights and they aren’t smart enough and, to quote one parent on the Maury townhall, the Miner parents aren’t educated enough. That’s why it’s a fairy tale. The real ones that the Brothers Grimm wrote, not the Disney-fied version.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so disheartened by the anonymous Karens up in this thread about how Maury is going to be destroyed when combined with Miner. Geez- can they sit at the same lunch counter at the Roost too? All evidence shows that kids do well when they are in racially and socioeconoimcally diverse schools. 1% white kids at Maury will benefit from not living in an educational bubble, as will socioecoonomcally disadvantaged Black kids at Miner. And problems in our community will improve when integration occurs. The segregation that has resulted between the two schools cannot persist. In bounds for Miner and a former Moner family, there are wonderful families, Black and White, wealthy, poor and middle class, at Miner. I sure thought I was in Biloxi for a moment, not Capitol Hill.

And where are your kids now?

Maury is already integrated so save your accusations of racism. There is zero evidence this will do anything to narrow the achievement gap.

At another local, racially balanced school. Thriving. Maury is 58% white / 20% black Karen. Come find me.