Gaza War, Part 3

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So the Rafah action right now is limited according to the newscast I heard earlier today.

My question: even if no ceasefire, why could Israel not simply hold its position as of before taking over the border and let talks continue?

I assume Hamas has no way of acquiring additional weapons or soldiers, certainly not of any significance. We know Hamas--in terms of the ideas Hamas represents--cannot be totally obliterated. It took what, 600 years for England and Ireland to mostly settle their differences? (Talk about people who won't stop fighting each other.)The Irish during the 70s were not the same individuals who had fought England for centuries, the idea was sustained through generation after generation. The very reason Judaism remains Judaism is because ideas about core identity do not disappear until the people who hold those ideas abandon them.

From that limited action, I saw two children under 10 crushed by rubble and one them had his eye popped out of his skull from the force. The image will haunt me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the Rafah action right now is limited according to the newscast I heard earlier today.

My question: even if no ceasefire, why could Israel not simply hold its position as of before taking over the border and let talks continue?

I assume Hamas has no way of acquiring additional weapons or soldiers, certainly not of any significance. We know Hamas--in terms of the ideas Hamas represents--cannot be totally obliterated. It took what, 600 years for England and Ireland to mostly settle their differences? (Talk about people who won't stop fighting each other.)The Irish during the 70s were not the same individuals who had fought England for centuries, the idea was sustained through generation after generation. The very reason Judaism remains Judaism is because ideas about core identity do not disappear until the people who hold those ideas abandon them.

From that limited action, I saw two children under 10 crushed by rubble and one them had his eye popped out of his skull from the force. The image will haunt me.

I've learned to stay away from footage of that nature. I saw all the videos that Hamas took when they committed all their atrocities. I can't get the video of Palestinians slowly killing an Israeli with a garden hoe out of my mind. And as a result, I have very little sympathy for Palestinians. How could anyone commit such horrors?

Images and videos tell the truth. But they elicit an emotional response that can warp and overwhelm a more rational and measured perspective. Having seen all the Hamas footage of what they did on 10/7, I 100 percent believe Israel is justified in taking the war to Gaza. Is it totally rational? No. But neither was America's response to 9/11. Powerful images create a visceral desire for vengeance and justice. And it can cloud everything else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the Rafah action right now is limited according to the newscast I heard earlier today.

My question: even if no ceasefire, why could Israel not simply hold its position as of before taking over the border and let talks continue?

I assume Hamas has no way of acquiring additional weapons or soldiers, certainly not of any significance. We know Hamas--in terms of the ideas Hamas represents--cannot be totally obliterated. It took what, 600 years for England and Ireland to mostly settle their differences? (Talk about people who won't stop fighting each other.)The Irish during the 70s were not the same individuals who had fought England for centuries, the idea was sustained through generation after generation. The very reason Judaism remains Judaism is because ideas about core identity do not disappear until the people who hold those ideas abandon them.

From that limited action, I saw two children under 10 crushed by rubble and one them had his eye popped out of his skull from the force. The image will haunt me.

I've learned to stay away from footage of that nature. I saw all the videos that Hamas took when they committed all their atrocities. I can't get the video of Palestinians slowly killing an Israeli with a garden hoe out of my mind. And as a result, I have very little sympathy for Palestinians. How could anyone commit such horrors?

Images and videos tell the truth. But they elicit an emotional response that can warp and overwhelm a more rational and measured perspective. Having seen all the Hamas footage of what they did on 10/7, I 100 percent believe Israel is justified in taking the war to Gaza. Is it totally rational? No. But neither was America's response to 9/11. Powerful images create a visceral desire for vengeance and justice. And it can cloud everything else.

I understand your viewpoint.

But also realize that ~40x the amount of people have been killed in Gaza than were killed in Israel on 10/7. So there are many, many horrific images from the destruction Israel has carried out in Gaza. You can imagine someone just as easily saying, as a result of all these horrible images, that they have very little sympathy for Israelis and asking how anyone could commit such horrors.

Palestinians are people too. The innocents of Gaza deserve our sympathy just as much as the innocents killed on 10/7.

There are 2 million people in Gaza suffering under miserable conditions, everyday for the last 7 months.

There is a full-blown famine in much of Gaza. Man made famine, imposed by Israel.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/world-food-programme-director-cindy-mccain-gaza-full-blown-famine-rcna150644

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the Rafah action right now is limited according to the newscast I heard earlier today.

My question: even if no ceasefire, why could Israel not simply hold its position as of before taking over the border and let talks continue?

I assume Hamas has no way of acquiring additional weapons or soldiers, certainly not of any significance. We know Hamas--in terms of the ideas Hamas represents--cannot be totally obliterated. It took what, 600 years for England and Ireland to mostly settle their differences? (Talk about people who won't stop fighting each other.)The Irish during the 70s were not the same individuals who had fought England for centuries, the idea was sustained through generation after generation. The very reason Judaism remains Judaism is because ideas about core identity do not disappear until the people who hold those ideas abandon them.

From that limited action, I saw two children under 10 crushed by rubble and one them had his eye popped out of his skull from the force. The image will haunt me.

I've learned to stay away from footage of that nature. I saw all the videos that Hamas took when they committed all their atrocities. I can't get the video of Palestinians slowly killing an Israeli with a garden hoe out of my mind. And as a result, I have very little sympathy for Palestinians. How could anyone commit such horrors?

Images and videos tell the truth. But they elicit an emotional response that can warp and overwhelm a more rational and measured perspective. Having seen all the Hamas footage of what they did on 10/7, I 100 percent believe Israel is justified in taking the war to Gaza. Is it totally rational? No. But neither was America's response to 9/11. Powerful images create a visceral desire for vengeance and justice. And it can cloud everything else.

I understand your viewpoint.

But also realize that ~40x the amount of people have been killed in Gaza than were killed in Israel on 10/7. So there are many, many horrific images from the destruction Israel has carried out in Gaza. You can imagine someone just as easily saying, as a result of all these horrible images, that they have very little sympathy for Israelis and asking how anyone could commit such horrors.

Palestinians are people too. The innocents of Gaza deserve our sympathy just as much as the innocents killed on 10/7.

There are 2 million people in Gaza suffering under miserable conditions, everyday for the last 7 months.

There is a full-blown famine in much of Gaza. Man made famine, imposed by Israel.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/world-food-programme-director-cindy-mccain-gaza-full-blown-famine-rcna150644

They are finally saying the quiet part out loud - only Israeli lives matter

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the Rafah action right now is limited according to the newscast I heard earlier today.

My question: even if no ceasefire, why could Israel not simply hold its position as of before taking over the border and let talks continue?

I assume Hamas has no way of acquiring additional weapons or soldiers, certainly not of any significance. We know Hamas--in terms of the ideas Hamas represents--cannot be totally obliterated. It took what, 600 years for England and Ireland to mostly settle their differences? (Talk about people who won't stop fighting each other.)The Irish during the 70s were not the same individuals who had fought England for centuries, the idea was sustained through generation after generation. The very reason Judaism remains Judaism is because ideas about core identity do not disappear until the people who hold those ideas abandon them.

From that limited action, I saw two children under 10 crushed by rubble and one them had his eye popped out of his skull from the force. The image will haunt me.

I've learned to stay away from footage of that nature. I saw all the videos that Hamas took when they committed all their atrocities. I can't get the video of Palestinians slowly killing an Israeli with a garden hoe out of my mind. And as a result, I have very little sympathy for Palestinians. How could anyone commit such horrors?

Images and videos tell the truth. But they elicit an emotional response that can warp and overwhelm a more rational and measured perspective. Having seen all the Hamas footage of what they did on 10/7, I 100 percent believe Israel is justified in taking the war to Gaza. Is it totally rational? No. But neither was America's response to 9/11. Powerful images create a visceral desire for vengeance and justice. And it can cloud everything else.

So you 100 percent believe Israel is justified in killing 30,000 women and children? Ok noted. Thanks for giving us a glimpse of your depraved heart.

Also before you saw the videos on 10/7, maybe you should have gone even further back and seen the atrocities consistently being committed against the Palestinians by the IDF. Prior to 10/7, Palestinians weren’t living in a utopia in Gaza or the West Bank but willfull blindness confirms your biased narrative so you can keep holding on to it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the Rafah action right now is limited according to the newscast I heard earlier today.

My question: even if no ceasefire, why could Israel not simply hold its position as of before taking over the border and let talks continue?

I assume Hamas has no way of acquiring additional weapons or soldiers, certainly not of any significance. We know Hamas--in terms of the ideas Hamas represents--cannot be totally obliterated. It took what, 600 years for England and Ireland to mostly settle their differences? (Talk about people who won't stop fighting each other.)The Irish during the 70s were not the same individuals who had fought England for centuries, the idea was sustained through generation after generation. The very reason Judaism remains Judaism is because ideas about core identity do not disappear until the people who hold those ideas abandon them.

From that limited action, I saw two children under 10 crushed by rubble and one them had his eye popped out of his skull from the force. The image will haunt me.

I've learned to stay away from footage of that nature. I saw all the videos that Hamas took when they committed all their atrocities. I can't get the video of Palestinians slowly killing an Israeli with a garden hoe out of my mind. And as a result, I have very little sympathy for Palestinians. How could anyone commit such horrors?

Images and videos tell the truth. But they elicit an emotional response that can warp and overwhelm a more rational and measured perspective. Having seen all the Hamas footage of what they did on 10/7, I 100 percent believe Israel is justified in taking the war to Gaza. Is it totally rational? No. But neither was America's response to 9/11. Powerful images create a visceral desire for vengeance and justice. And it can cloud everything else.

I understand your viewpoint.

But also realize that ~40x the amount of people have been killed in Gaza than were killed in Israel on 10/7. So there are many, many horrific images from the destruction Israel has carried out in Gaza. You can imagine someone just as easily saying, as a result of all these horrible images, that they have very little sympathy for Israelis and asking how anyone could commit such horrors.

Palestinians are people too. The innocents of Gaza deserve our sympathy just as much as the innocents killed on 10/7.

There are 2 million people in Gaza suffering under miserable conditions, everyday for the last 7 months.

There is a full-blown famine in much of Gaza. Man made famine, imposed by Israel.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/world-food-programme-director-cindy-mccain-gaza-full-blown-famine-rcna150644

They are finally saying the quiet part out loud - only Israeli lives matter

DP. Most or all famines are man made.

And think more carefully about using the word "innocent". It doesn't mean what you are using it to mean.

[Anonymous]

fine- non-combatants. Non-combantants and children under ten and pregnant women- it is a war crime to bomb them. and aid workers.

and ALL wounded people, even when the wounded were Nazis, have historically been spared from indiscriminate killing. Do you think an a$$hole like Churchill didnt know where the German field hospitals were? How many war films have we seen where the heroes hide in a hospital, pretend to be wounded so that they can get away. Even those fighters without any guardrails or humanity back in the pre - Geneva convention days who firebombed their own soldiers didnt bomb the wounded/hospitals despite knowing that these hospitals contained valuable targets. teh judo-christina notion that some lives are held above others is poison.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:fine- non-combatants. Non-combantants and children under ten and pregnant women- it is a war crime to bomb them. and aid workers.

and ALL wounded people, even when the wounded were Nazis, have historically been spared from indiscriminate killing. Do you think an a$$hole like Churchill didnt know where the German field hospitals were? How many war films have we seen where the heroes hide in a hospital, pretend to be wounded so that they can get away. Even those fighters without any guardrails or humanity back in the pre - Geneva convention days who firebombed their own soldiers didnt bomb the wounded/hospitals despite knowing that these hospitals contained valuable targets. teh judo-christina notion that some lives are held above others is poison.

Churchill and the Geneva Conventions are a Judeo-Christian notion...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the Rafah action right now is limited according to the newscast I heard earlier today.

My question: even if no ceasefire, why could Israel not simply hold its position as of before taking over the border and let talks continue?

I assume Hamas has no way of acquiring additional weapons or soldiers, certainly not of any significance. We know Hamas--in terms of the ideas Hamas represents--cannot be totally obliterated. It took what, 600 years for England and Ireland to mostly settle their differences? (Talk about people who won't stop fighting each other.)The Irish during the 70s were not the same individuals who had fought England for centuries, the idea was sustained through generation after generation. The very reason Judaism remains Judaism is because ideas about core identity do not disappear until the people who hold those ideas abandon them.

I mentioned yesterday that it seems like they truly want to kill all Palestinians. Israeli soldiers killed 3 hostages waving white flags because they thought were Hamas. The point about that is it sounds like they have no idea who Hamas actually are, aside from the top leaders.

10/7 was absolutely terrifying, and it seems like Hamas was surprised by their success. Mainly because Israeli intelligence failed, as did security forces on the group initially.

We keep hearing that if Hamas isn’t eradicated right now that Israel will face extinction. But, I haven’t really understood how that’s even possible. They sound like a rag tag group and very few Israeli soldiers have died thankfully (though there is a very high rate of friendly fire). I had no idea what an intifada was and when I looked it up, many more Palestinians died than Jews in both of them.

But, the only people dying en masse right now, in actuality not in words/intention) are Palestinians, the majority of them innocent. And the world seems like they’re going to let him because to say otherwise means you can get fired from your job because you’re antisemitic.

Quick question: are Palestinians who are Hamas supporters innocent? Because 70-90% of Palestinians in Gaza (now Rafeh) are Hamas supporters.

I suggest reading Nothing to Envy by Barbara Demick re North Korea. She interviewed defectors and painted the picture of indoctrination and how stepping out could mean a gulag or death. It is eye-opening and horrifying. People didn’t trust their neighbors and there is no real talk about politics, for fear that a neighbor could turn you in to for their own recognition of doing favors and special benefits.

Would I call citizens of North Korea innocent? Yes.

For me, the same applies to Palestinians.
They also don’t have freedom of movement, so how can they possibly see the outside world? In Wild Swans at the end of the cultural revolution a young woman encounters an American with a fancy watch. She had been told her entire life not to waste food because Americans are starving. Travel and visiting foreigners open people’s mind.

Let’s not forget, there are also a lot of desperate or angry or lonely people who become indoctrinated in the US. To say that Palestinians stand alone globally in their thinking would be dishonest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:fine- non-combatants. Non-combantants and children under ten and pregnant women- it is a war crime to bomb them. and aid workers.

and ALL wounded people, even when the wounded were Nazis, have historically been spared from indiscriminate killing. Do you think an a$$hole like Churchill didnt know where the German field hospitals were? How many war films have we seen where the heroes hide in a hospital, pretend to be wounded so that they can get away. Even those fighters without any guardrails or humanity back in the pre - Geneva convention days who firebombed their own soldiers didnt bomb the wounded/hospitals despite knowing that these hospitals contained valuable targets. teh judo-christina notion that some lives are held above others is poison.

There are a lot of war crimes in the area. Palestinians use suicide bombings, child soldiers, and indiscriminate rockets targeting civilian areas - all war crimes. The IDF is indiscriminately razing Gaza - a war crime.

The reason the Geneva Convention outlined and forbid the use of war crimes is not because they are bad but because they worsen war. As we see now. The decades of terrorism of Israelis by Palestinians is related to the extreme reaction by the Israelis to 10/7. And decades of restriction of Palestinians by Israelis has led them to terrorize Israeli civilians and to calls of global intifada.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:fine- non-combatants. Non-combantants and children under ten and pregnant women- it is a war crime to bomb them. and aid workers.

and ALL wounded people, even when the wounded were Nazis, have historically been spared from indiscriminate killing. Do you think an a$$hole like Churchill didnt know where the German field hospitals were? How many war films have we seen where the heroes hide in a hospital, pretend to be wounded so that they can get away. Even those fighters without any guardrails or humanity back in the pre - Geneva convention days who firebombed their own soldiers didnt bomb the wounded/hospitals despite knowing that these hospitals contained valuable targets. teh judo-christina notion that some lives are held above others is poison.

So Israel is the same as Hamas but it reality the IDF is worst because if the scale.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the Rafah action right now is limited according to the newscast I heard earlier today.

My question: even if no ceasefire, why could Israel not simply hold its position as of before taking over the border and let talks continue?

I assume Hamas has no way of acquiring additional weapons or soldiers, certainly not of any significance. We know Hamas--in terms of the ideas Hamas represents--cannot be totally obliterated. It took what, 600 years for England and Ireland to mostly settle their differences? (Talk about people who won't stop fighting each other.)The Irish during the 70s were not the same individuals who had fought England for centuries, the idea was sustained through generation after generation. The very reason Judaism remains Judaism is because ideas about core identity do not disappear until the people who hold those ideas abandon them.

From that limited action, I saw two children under 10 crushed by rubble and one them had his eye popped out of his skull from the force. The image will haunt me.

I've learned to stay away from footage of that nature. I saw all the videos that Hamas took when they committed all their atrocities. I can't get the video of Palestinians slowly killing an Israeli with a garden hoe out of my mind. And as a result, I have very little sympathy for Palestinians. How could anyone commit such horrors?

Images and videos tell the truth. But they elicit an emotional response that can warp and overwhelm a more rational and measured perspective. Having seen all the Hamas footage of what they did on 10/7, I 100 percent believe Israel is justified in taking the war to Gaza. Is it totally rational? No. But neither was America's response to 9/11. Powerful images create a visceral desire for vengeance and justice. And it can cloud everything else.

As horrible as the killing was, it is inappropriate to extend one's sentiments toward the killers to all Palestinians. Over 40% of Gazans are 14 and under. How is it possible not to have sympathy for them when they are suffering so intensely at the moment? For every atrocity committed on 10/7 by Hamas and its associates, Israel has committed dozens more. Even this should not translate into having "very little sympathy for Israelis." While Hamas and the state of Israel have much to answer for, individual Palestinians and Israelis should not have to suffer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the Rafah action right now is limited according to the newscast I heard earlier today.

My question: even if no ceasefire, why could Israel not simply hold its position as of before taking over the border and let talks continue?

I assume Hamas has no way of acquiring additional weapons or soldiers, certainly not of any significance. We know Hamas--in terms of the ideas Hamas represents--cannot be totally obliterated. It took what, 600 years for England and Ireland to mostly settle their differences? (Talk about people who won't stop fighting each other.)The Irish during the 70s were not the same individuals who had fought England for centuries, the idea was sustained through generation after generation. The very reason Judaism remains Judaism is because ideas about core identity do not disappear until the people who hold those ideas abandon them.

From that limited action, I saw two children under 10 crushed by rubble and one them had his eye popped out of his skull from the force. The image will haunt me.

I've learned to stay away from footage of that nature. I saw all the videos that Hamas took when they committed all their atrocities. I can't get the video of Palestinians slowly killing an Israeli with a garden hoe out of my mind. And as a result, I have very little sympathy for Palestinians. How could anyone commit such horrors?

Images and videos tell the truth. But they elicit an emotional response that can warp and overwhelm a more rational and measured perspective. Having seen all the Hamas footage of what they did on 10/7, I 100 percent believe Israel is justified in taking the war to Gaza. Is it totally rational? No. But neither was America's response to 9/11. Powerful images create a visceral desire for vengeance and justice. And it can cloud everything else.

I understand your viewpoint.

But also realize that ~40x the amount of people have been killed in Gaza than were killed in Israel on 10/7. So there are many, many horrific images from the destruction Israel has carried out in Gaza. You can imagine someone just as easily saying, as a result of all these horrible images, that they have very little sympathy for Israelis and asking how anyone could commit such horrors.

Palestinians are people too. The innocents of Gaza deserve our sympathy just as much as the innocents killed on 10/7.

There are 2 million people in Gaza suffering under miserable conditions, everyday for the last 7 months.

There is a full-blown famine in much of Gaza. Man made famine, imposed by Israel.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/world-food-programme-director-cindy-mccain-gaza-full-blown-famine-rcna150644

They are finally saying the quiet part out loud - only Israeli lives matter

DP. Most or all famines are man made.

And think more carefully about using the word "innocent". It doesn't mean what you are using it to mean.

I use the word "innocent" only in this sentence:

"The innocents of Gaza deserve our sympathy just as much as the innocents killed on 10/7."

What did you mean when you say I should be more careful in using that word? Do you not believe there are any innocent people in Gaza? Do you not believe innocent people in Gaza are suffering?

For real, I don't get people like you. 10/7 was horrible. I acknowledge that. Certainly many innocent people were killed that day and I have sympathy for them and their families.

Also, many, many innocent people have died in Gaza. And they and their families also have my sympathy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the Rafah action right now is limited according to the newscast I heard earlier today.

My question: even if no ceasefire, why could Israel not simply hold its position as of before taking over the border and let talks continue?

I assume Hamas has no way of acquiring additional weapons or soldiers, certainly not of any significance. We know Hamas--in terms of the ideas Hamas represents--cannot be totally obliterated. It took what, 600 years for England and Ireland to mostly settle their differences? (Talk about people who won't stop fighting each other.)The Irish during the 70s were not the same individuals who had fought England for centuries, the idea was sustained through generation after generation. The very reason Judaism remains Judaism is because ideas about core identity do not disappear until the people who hold those ideas abandon them.

From that limited action, I saw two children under 10 crushed by rubble and one them had his eye popped out of his skull from the force. The image will haunt me.

I've learned to stay away from footage of that nature. I saw all the videos that Hamas took when they committed all their atrocities. I can't get the video of Palestinians slowly killing an Israeli with a garden hoe out of my mind. And as a result, I have very little sympathy for Palestinians. How could anyone commit such horrors?

Images and videos tell the truth. But they elicit an emotional response that can warp and overwhelm a more rational and measured perspective. Having seen all the Hamas footage of what they did on 10/7, I 100 percent believe Israel is justified in taking the war to Gaza. Is it totally rational? No. But neither was America's response to 9/11. Powerful images create a visceral desire for vengeance and justice. And it can cloud everything else.

I understand your viewpoint.

But also realize that ~40x the amount of people have been killed in Gaza than were killed in Israel on 10/7. So there are many, many horrific images from the destruction Israel has carried out in Gaza. You can imagine someone just as easily saying, as a result of all these horrible images, that they have very little sympathy for Israelis and asking how anyone could commit such horrors.

Palestinians are people too. The innocents of Gaza deserve our sympathy just as much as the innocents killed on 10/7.

There are 2 million people in Gaza suffering under miserable conditions, everyday for the last 7 months.

There is a full-blown famine in much of Gaza. Man made famine, imposed by Israel.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/world-food-programme-director-cindy-mccain-gaza-full-blown-famine-rcna150644

They are finally saying the quiet part out loud - only Israeli lives matter

DP. Most or all famines are man made.

And think more carefully about using the word "innocent". It doesn't mean what you are using it to mean.

It's easy to forget about all the horrific stories that have come out, but I want to remind you of one in which innocent people in Gaza died:

Back in December, several premature babies were left behind at a hospital in northern Gaza when the hospital was evacuated.
These babies died in their beds, alone.
And then their bodies decomposed and were mauled by stray dogs.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/03/gaza-premature-babies-dead-nasr/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the Rafah action right now is limited according to the newscast I heard earlier today.

My question: even if no ceasefire, why could Israel not simply hold its position as of before taking over the border and let talks continue?

I assume Hamas has no way of acquiring additional weapons or soldiers, certainly not of any significance. We know Hamas--in terms of the ideas Hamas represents--cannot be totally obliterated. It took what, 600 years for England and Ireland to mostly settle their differences? (Talk about people who won't stop fighting each other.)The Irish during the 70s were not the same individuals who had fought England for centuries, the idea was sustained through generation after generation. The very reason Judaism remains Judaism is because ideas about core identity do not disappear until the people who hold those ideas abandon them.

From that limited action, I saw two children under 10 crushed by rubble and one them had his eye popped out of his skull from the force. The image will haunt me.

I've learned to stay away from footage of that nature. I saw all the videos that Hamas took when they committed all their atrocities. I can't get the video of Palestinians slowly killing an Israeli with a garden hoe out of my mind. And as a result, I have very little sympathy for Palestinians. How could anyone commit such horrors?

Images and videos tell the truth. But they elicit an emotional response that can warp and overwhelm a more rational and measured perspective. Having seen all the Hamas footage of what they did on 10/7, I 100 percent believe Israel is justified in taking the war to Gaza. Is it totally rational? No. But neither was America's response to 9/11. Powerful images create a visceral desire for vengeance and justice. And it can cloud everything else.

I understand your viewpoint.

But also realize that ~40x the amount of people have been killed in Gaza than were killed in Israel on 10/7. So there are many, many horrific images from the destruction Israel has carried out in Gaza. You can imagine someone just as easily saying, as a result of all these horrible images, that they have very little sympathy for Israelis and asking how anyone could commit such horrors.

Palestinians are people too. The innocents of Gaza deserve our sympathy just as much as the innocents killed on 10/7.

There are 2 million people in Gaza suffering under miserable conditions, everyday for the last 7 months.

There is a full-blown famine in much of Gaza. Man made famine, imposed by Israel.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/world-food-programme-director-cindy-mccain-gaza-full-blown-famine-rcna150644

They are finally saying the quiet part out loud - only Israeli lives matter

DP. Most or all famines are man made.

And think more carefully about using the word "innocent". It doesn't mean what you are using it to mean.

It's easy to forget about all the horrific stories that have come out, but I want to remind you of one in which innocent people in Gaza died:

Back in December, several premature babies were left behind at a hospital in northern Gaza when the hospital was evacuated.
These babies died in their beds, alone.
And then their bodies decomposed and were mauled by stray dogs.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/03/gaza-premature-babies-dead-nasr/

As a preemie mom I will never forget or forgive this till the day I die.

Former Biden supporter.

Israel is EVIL