
https://www.axios.com/2024/03/10/biden-red-line-gaza-palestinians# So anything under another 30,000 “dead” Palestinians will be okay with Biden. Anyone think the Israelis will kill more just to stick it to Biden and the US? |
Hamas was born out of the refugee tents in Lebanon in 1983 where like the Nazis Israelis admitted they shot all the dogs first so they wouldn’t wake up and alert the people that the army was coming to raid. Among the actions, an Israeli soldier admitted he saw a man cut a baby out of a 9 month pregnant woman’s belly and they made a bet on what gender the baby is. Last year, Israel says this same exact detail happened from Hamas on 10/7 but it wasn’t from a Hamas fighter or witness. This was an Israeli who wasn’t there who said this happened . These soldiers did a documentary in 2009 wanting to clear their conscience over what happened in Shatila and Sabra in 1983 and that’s where they said they did all these gruesome things with the help of a Lebanese Christian militia . Israel never learns from history. Running over tents in Rafah will bloom something worse than Hamas in 30 years when these boys grow up |
Israel has motive to inflate numbers so who knows if Bibi’s numbers are correct or Hamas and the U.S.’s more conservative estimates where they have motive to underestimate. It doesn’t matter either way. We can all do math and 30,000 is still way more than 1,400 |
Israel’s numbers claim 50-60k kills and 20k-30k are Hamas which is a total joke . Not even 5% of all their kills are Hamas . If they were, they would found the hostages alive if they were in that much combat with Hamas |
I think Egypt will be haunted and plagued by bad fortune in the years to come. They should be fighting Israel and helping Palestinians |
I understand the moral dilemma and fear they have about Israeli brutality on their own people but at the same time, don’t they have a religious and moral obligation to help suffering people? Their religious right are only going to grow more furious at Egypt for sitting on its hands and Doing nothing and that might have devastating effects for Egypt. Palestine is literally the only issue that unites agnostics/leftists in academia and religious right fanatics over there |
It’s incredible how non confrontational, self preserving, and chicken shit the Arabs are contrary to popular belief . They can easily cut off oil or Red Sea access to Israel and the US. They have lots of leverage they are sitting on but don’t use but white kids in America have more guts to use their voices .
That’s how war averse and intimidated they are by Israel and the Us. Israeli army is the most vulnerable they ever been right now. They don’t even have high numbers because Bibi’s bunch of settlements have compromised Israeli national security as they need 24/7 IDF protection. Yemen, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq, , West Bank can all tag team Israel and Saudi and Egypt can cut off oil imports and Red Sea and Suez access and that would do major major major damage . Who wants to make 30 dollar a gallon gas? |
They have all the deterrence they need and they have a carrot and a stick.
They have economic and electoral gold by way of oil. They have the stick which is military deterrence . The US and Israel have absolutely no desire for a broader ME war and they can use just that mere threat to their advantage. It would be impossible to handle the entire region at once particularly for Israel. Israel is lucky they have level headed elder leaders for colleagues for now because I suspect the younger generation will be far more ruthless when they come about. Qatars leader is a millennial born in 1980 and he’s the only pro Hamas leader in the Arab world that’s cool with the US , Israel, and Hamas and everyone else as well. That should really worry Israel that Qatar is able to have this Western friendly image and even win a World Cup bid despite hosting Hamas terrorists . What happens when Mahmoud Abbas and King Abdallah of Jordan dies? The young ME generation lived through war in their region their entire lives and they strongly resents Israel and believes all the wars and terrorism there were somehow related to the Us believing it’s protecting Israel’s interests |
Hamas has accepted the ceasefire! |
Leave to where? |
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-68963839?src_origin=BBCS_BBC |
Well they aren't. And even if they were, there's no such thing as laws that apply only to non-idiots. |
No diplomatic relations with Saudi will fix everything. This Palestinians stuff is overblown leftists stuff. |
Spoke too soon. Israel is saying it is unacceptable. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/rafah-live-gazans-start-leaving-parts-southern-city-israel-warns-operation-2024-05-06/ |