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Ex-IDF ops chief: Rafah invasion PM readying to approve would be worst decision made since war’s outbreak
Israel Ziv, a retired general and former IDF operations chief, speaks out against a potential Israeli invasion of Rafah during Channel 12’s Friday night news panel.
Ziv asserts that the remaining Hamas battalions in the southernmost city of Gaza do not pose an existential threat to Israel, whereas the hostage deal Israel risks forgoing by entering Rafah would amount to an existential threat to the lives of the Israeli hostages.
Ziv argues that even in the best case scenario where Israel enters Rafah, manages to find and kill Hamas leader Sinwar and recover the hostages, there will be no “total victory,” as promised by Netanyahu.
On the other hand, such an invasion will be very bloody, further isolate Jerusalem diplomatically and leave Israel without anyone to turn over Gaza to once the operation is over, Ziv says.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/ex-idf-ops-chief-israel-ziv-rafah-invasion-pm-readying-to-approve-would-be-worst-decision-made-since-wars-outbreak/
Get ready. It’s coming. IDF civilians casualty estimates 40,000-80,000..yipes! That is way over Biden’s 30,000 more number.
If Hamas simply released the remaining hostages and returned the bodies of those they've already murdered, the war would be over today. But they won't. Hamas is only interested in violence and death. It's too bad that this is what most Palestinians support. It makes peace impossible.
I agree with this 1000%. Why would Israel agree to a ceasefire without that?
Israel (Bibi) has explicitly said that it would not be over if that happened. Why would Hamas agree to a ceasefire without a guarantee that this will end?
That is the main hang up with the negotiations right now. Both sides have demanded the type of iron clad end game guarantees that don't tend to happen during negotiations like this. It is no wonder that almost all of the secondary parties to this negotiation are wanting to wipe their hands of both of them.
The negotiations will fail because both sides got blindsided whenever they tried to be soft or nice to the other. There’s absolutely zero trust right now on either side. Netanyahu feels he was nice to Hamas by helping them over the PA government in Ramallah and he got backstabbed. Hamas feels backstabbed by Israel because when they softened in 2017 and said they acknowledged 2 state solution, Netanyahu expanded settlements by 60% and sided with some extremist anti Arab parties to create the most right wing government in Israel’s history .
Both sides don’t see the value in being the “bigger person”.
I can’t say that I blame either of them .
I think the US puts too much on negotiation. There is not going to be a negotiation here . Let them keep on. Eventually, the war will leave Gaza and enter Israel from the West Bank. That seems to be what Israel wants so be it
It won't expand from the West Bank. It was never militarized like Gaza was. There is no weapons flow from Jordan into the West Bank as there was from Egypt into Gaza. Palestinian militants in the West Bank do not have the means to invade Israel and engage in a sustained war with the IDF. Hamas, due to their support from Iran, were able to launch a war with Israel. Which is why Gaza has been flattened and the West Bank remains standing.
I don't think this war expands at all. Hezbollah in Lebanon is standing fast. That little exchange between Iran and Israel a couple of weeks ago was nothing more than a momentary distraction. The Sunni Arabs in Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, and Saudi Arabia despise the Palestinians for all sorts of historical reasons. And Palestinians in Gaza choosing to align themselves with the Shi'a theocracy in Iran has not endeared them with the Arab world. In short, due to their bad decision making, Palestinians in Gaza have no allies, which means this war won't grow.
I don't know what the endgame is. Besides complete devastation for Palestinians in Gaza. It will eventually become some kind of Arab League/Israel bastard child dependent territory. No one will ever trust Palestinians in Gaza for generations after this, so there is no chance for autonomous rule, much less independence, for the foreseeable future. But hopefully once Netanyahu is gone there will be a better outcome for the West Bank that will include the removal of the settlers and a sustainable political solution.
If that’s the case, why didn’t Israel listen to Egypts warning that Hamas was very active with transactions and transfers in the MJ tbs prior?
Tens of thousands of people would still be alive from Israel and Gaza.
They don’t need weapons from Jordan to wage war. They can use anything as a weapon -even a car . They have settlers right there . They can start a war whenever they want.
Israel is so short sighted. They think technology is needed for war. It’s not.
All that’s needed is hate
Yes, but hate is no match for a F-35.
Palestinians have been using terrorism for generations - from Black September to airplane hijackings to innumerable suicide bombings. And it's gotten them exactly nowhere. They could have had a state numerous times, but that would require vision, statesmanship, compromise, and a vision for the future. And Palestinians have exhibited none of those things. Instead, they chose Islamic fundamentalism, terrorism, and kleptocracy.
Palestinians in Gaza thought their invasion of Israel and the atrocities they committed on 10/7 was a brilliant idea. The rest of the world, of course, looks upon Palestinian decision-making and thinks idiots. There's no helping such self destructive stupidity.
Was the Netanyahu government profoundly incompetent? Absolutely. 10/7 was the worst security failure in the history of Israel. But ultimately Israelis will vote in a new government. There will be a thorough investigation of the incompetence of the Netanyahu government. And life will move on.
Meanwhile, Gaza lies in ruins.
And any hope for Palestinian independence is gone for generations. I don't know about you, but I'm thinking Palestinians might want to try something different than Hamas and endless terror. It doesn't seem to be working.
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