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Anonymous
They do not and it is not widely understood. The irony is that if your DC was on an ECNL team during that year, not only would you attend their showcases, you would also participate in Jeff Cup and similar. People like to say ECNL is second tier, maybe so, but definitely not true at 13U. 13U Girls DA is not getting a lot of interest for the commitment and dollars. WS has an ID session this weekend and the 13U player movement should be telling. |
Anonymous
Thank god for you and the dc mom's board then.... We all thought we would have showcases like the ECNL. 
Let's first let the ECNL fans know their upcoming U13/14 showcase in May is a waste and no one at all will be watching and then lets make sure the DA fanboys update their power points and at least drop the U13 footnote for the 06s Nubs is too polite |
Anonymous
Then honestly what do they do all year for the extra money you are paying _____ play FCV -- Spirit -- take a team bus to Jersey, and then try some futsol? |
Anonymous
f Prior to the DA, my DD played ECNL and she went to the U13/U14 showcase. Not a scout anywhere in sight across multiple fields, games, and teams. |
Anonymous
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Not to restart the whole crazy talk about how not playing soccer is the key to soccer greatness, but for those who aren’t stuck defending dogmatically a 7 month club season, I remembered this article and thought I’d share.
The 10,000 Hour Rule for Soccer Players Malcolm Gladwell calls it the 10,000-Hour Rule. What does that mean? Well, if you put in the work, as in over 10,000 hours of soccer practice, which is 20 hours a week for 10 years, you'll find success, if not perfection in your chosen sport, in this case soccer. It's really about your passion and love for the game though. This is really what made Lionel Messi the best player in the world, his love for the game and love for playing. In this adidas ad he talks about how it took him his whole life to make him the player he is today. It's not that simple of course. It's the rare person who is dedicated enough to work at something day in and day out to reach the 10,000 hour number. Like Messi, you have to love what you're doing to spend 10,000 hours working at it. Actually, that's why you put in all the hours, because you just love to play soccer. Messi just loves to play soccer - he rarely misses a game. And that's probably the most important part of the 10,000 rule - the love of the game and the desire to get better overrides everything else. If you want to play professional soccer then you must love playing the game and trying to get better - learning constantly is what you're after if you want to be the best. If you love to play you'll skip out on pretty much everything else to practice and play games. In Messi’s own words: “It took me 17 years and 114 days to become an overnight success. Starting early and staying late. Training day after day after day, year after year.” This is Messi's formula. |
Anonymous
Listen Loudoun Dad. I know your excited about your new league but you might want to check up on a few facts first. First, U13 isn’t even required by ECNL. It is an age group that the clubs opt into. Not every ECNL club fields a U13 team. This means that several clubs, including ECNL,find it rather pointless to have a U13 age bracket in what is considered to be a league designed for college showcasing. U13 was always considered “Pre-ECNL” and until GDA the age group never even formally existed. You read that right, before last year, ie, BEFORE DA there was no formal U13 ECNL age group. All the kids just played in their regular leagues. DA has two pilot divisions with U13 age groups. The Frontier division which also piloted the age group this year has not gone to any DA showcase events. Which means that they did not spend money on such trips. Which means that their money was not wasted on showcase that nobody is watching. In regards to DA spending all that extra money, well all you have been informed of is your training fees, wait until you get the full bill. |
Anonymous
No Messi is quick and fast -ie gifted with incredible athleticism. Many people can put in 10,000 hours and love the sport, but if you do not have the physical tools you will not make it. |
Anonymous
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Here is the announcement from ECNL on PDA, MI Hawks and FC Stars joining.
http://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/2018/04/18/fc-stars-michigan-hawks-pda-and-more-are-all-in-for-2018-19/ TopDrawerSoccer discussed this announcement on their podcast show this week and said more clubs may announce move back to ECNL by the end of the month. They called this a pivotal moment if not a watershed moment. Just relaying the facts here FYI. |
Anonymous
Thank you for clearing this up. U13 ECNL has showcases but only parents watching. U13 Pilot DA no showcases period. Sounds like U13 DA should be giving us some discount over what the U14s pay. I guess we will not have any major travel beyond the few nearby mid-Atlantic states, as we won't do showcases and can't do most tournaments. So, it is just an extra day of training as PP noted? |
Anonymous
Your discount is you are not paying for a unnecessary trip. 2-3 showcases alone are no less than $1500 in travel expenses. There are no team fees for DA events versus ECNL dividing up $800 for Jeff Cup entry fees, $800 for the PDA showcase, $800 for Disney Showcase, $800 for CASL showcase etc. And that is before paying for the required ECNL events. Bottom line, ECNL is not cheaper. |
Anonymous
No one on a U13 or U14 team thinks they are going to showcases to be seen by colleges. Why do they go to Jeff Cup, CASL, Disney?? Why would they play National League? It's to play games against different/better (possibly) competition and see how you stack up and how you can improve. If a team wants to go to a showcase tournament that isn't right in their backyard, who cares? |
Anonymous
Agree. You have to basic genetics. But--once you have World Class genetics---it's the work you put in that distinguishes you from the rest of the pack. Every GREAT athlete (the Tom Bradys, Messi, Ronaldo, Pele, etc.)....they all were the first ones to practice and the last ones to leave. They played and practiced constantly. Ronaldo showed up on the team's day off to work on some things. The really big problem here in the US is parents interpret this stupid 10,000 rule to mean if their kid does structured competition/practices constantly with their Club they will get better. The ratio of competition vs training in the younger years is completely wrong in this area. The sheer number of tournaments and games---in the younger years it should be more about training/development and free play on their own. The typical non-athletic mom and dad in this area has no concept of training/rest days, how little a player will actually touch the ball in your average game, etc. That constant 4-5 game tournaments are good for developing bodies, etc. |
Anonymous
Another question. Why would GDA have U14s do showcases (like ECNL U14s) since no one cares or watches as the U13/U14 poster notes about those ages? There must be some other reason, maybe being able to play teams from all over the US counts for something and parents aren't aware that will not be happening in the GDA at U13. Pilot GDA sounds like it is half-baked idea if it results in playing local teams all year like Frontier apparently did. Is that how it worked in Frontier last year? I have an idea, but the average soccer mom cutting the check for Pilot DA probably doesn't. I got your ECNL release (below) and yes, it does sound much different then Pilot GDA. National league vs. two pilot markets. U13s in the ECNL can attend two national events. So, you are saying that ECNL at U13 is a waste of money/time and Pilot GDA is a better choice even though we will be getting an even bigger bill later from the DA? So, we do Pilot DA to save money on travel, get a bigger bill later, avoid showcases that no one cares about, and play teams in 3-4 local states? Doesn't taste like the kool-aid I apparently have been drinking the last month. http://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/2017/05/01/girls-ecnl-expands-to-include-the-u13-division/ |
Anonymous
Messi is saying how he became great and you say no? He says he went early and stayed late, and you refuse to accept that? Don't be asinine. It is a historical fact that Messi was constantly playing soccer, in the streets, in practice, with his older cousins. If he wasn't playing, he was juggling. He grew up with the ball at his feet. Of course some people can train to his level and not become him, because there is a thing called talent, and not every child, no matter how much love and resources a parent provide, has it. But talent alone is not enough, and I see lazy talented players that will never excel because they won't put in the time. Talent you have naturally, but skill - true high level skill - is only developed by spending hours and hours developing that talent and honing it. I have a friend who played pro in Brazil (no Neymar, but good enough to play professionally). He told me that in Brazil, all they do is soccer all day long. They have academies, they have leagues, and they have the streets. He said it was all he did, before school, after. He lived, ate, and breathed it, and that anyone who becomes great in Brazil - that is their life. Next you will tell me no on that too? Let's take Ronaldo. Maybe you are just a Real fan. Ronaldo himself says that what took him to the top level is that he has and continues to spend hours upon hours day after day. He says he does so much extra work outside of what we see on the pitch. There are so many stories of how diligently Ronaldo pushes himself during practices. His current Portugal coach Carlos Queiroz said, “There are some great players that have so much belief that when things are not going well on the training field they just stop. They think, ‘I am good, today is not right, but tomorrow it will be fine.’ They never think there could be a problem. Not Cristiano. He works and works until everything goes right and only then is he satisfied.” Ronaldo is so passionate about practice that he trains for many days to perfect a single area in his game. Queiroz added, “I have always spent time with players on free-kicks but with Ronaldo we worked for days and days. We practised every day. There’s nobody who’s prepared to work harder for his artistry.” Or would you try to sell me on the idea that this only happened after he became an adult? Success is a habit, and training like that? He did that throughout his youth and was already something of a soccer legend at age 10 in his home town. I didn't post that to say 10,000 hours is a magic number. I'm sure they don't think that either. If a player is at 9950, not enough? Come on. We all know that's not the point. The point is it takes practice at the sport you are trying to be great at. The point is a longer season of high level training will objectively make you a better player than 6 or 7. |
Anonymous
I don't know how the U13 pilot program will work. I'm saying though that the "showcase" was a waste of time, money and effort. There are far better ways for a U13 child to develop. That's just flash for the parents' benefit. They can instead do events closer to home, or perhaps join in more futsal activities, like the younger DA boys do. Just because there isn't a showcase doesn't mean there isn't a program. What binary world did you grow up in? |