Riverbend FC

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Anonymous wrote:Why are people so interested in this club? Who really cares, let them try to be successful. They have leadership from Arlington Soccer, one of the strongest clubs in the region and enough capital to build something the right way in a area where it seems another option is not a bad idea.


Melissa already left this train wreck, actually


Wait, the one competent person they had bailed?


I heard she got fired, actually. Butted heads with some folks.....


She’s still on the website?
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Anonymous wrote:Why would Loudoun remain connected to NVA now that they have their own GA and Aspire? Wouldn't they be better suited keeping all of their talent going forward? Are NVA employees still part of Loudoun staff and therefore the partnership. How can the pathway to NVA be Loudoun top teams and RBFC Aspire. Does Loudoun receive kickbacks for allowing NVA to use their fields? If the partnership broke, how would NVA get fields? Does Loudoun also have MLSN homegrown on the boys side or only NVA? This is all a bit confusing the way it is currently set-up.


Im pretty sure the ED and TD of Loudoun are the ones that run NVA


Still boggles the mind that folks don't understand Loudoun/NVA are two separate brands operated by the same people/organization. There is zero daylight between the too. Just look at your registration receipts.


Loudoun is becoming more like a feeder club to NVA and customers are catching on. and NVA can't financially operate on its own so brought Riverbend as another feeder club but more as extra revenue. Nothing more than that.


It’s kind of comical how confidently people post on here without actually understanding the structure.

Loudoun and NVA are already operated under the same ownership umbrella and share a lot of the same resources. But because both clubs compete in GA, there can’t just be free roster movement between them during the season.

Riverbend is different. It’s being positioned as an Aspire pathway club, which does allow in-season player movement with NVA. It also gives NVA a stronger footprint in a different county and creates a more direct pathway for Fairfax-area players into the system.

This isn’t some overnight “2027 season” play. They’re clearly building a long-term player development pipeline and regional structure that will probably take a few years to fully develop.


You lost me at "aspire pathway"


That’s fine, but that’s literally how the structure works.

GA clubs in the same league can’t freely move players back and forth in-season, which is why the Aspire designation matters here. Riverbend gives them a development and movement pathway that Loudoun can’t provide under current GA rules.

You don’t have to like the strategy, but there’s a difference between disagreeing with it and pretending it doesn’t exist.


Again I ask, how is Riverbend giving them anything when they have no players?


The Riverbend Aspire setup actually creates something that a lot of clubs in the area currently don’t have: a real internal pathway for girls who develop later or want to push to a higher level.

Right now at GFR, the highest level on the girls side is ECNL-RL, which depending on the team is probably comparable to Aspire anyway. But if a player there outgrows that environment and wants GA-level opportunities, the only real option is usually leaving the club and trying out somewhere else.

With Riverbend being connected into the NVA structure through Aspire, their top players will likely have opportunities to train with, guest play, and potentially move into the NVA GA environment over time. That’s a very different model than just being capped at one level inside your own club.

People keep acting like this is only about branding or league labels, but from a player development standpoint, the pathway piece is the real story. And it will take a few seasons to build I think, but who knows.


This will never happen with Riverbend. They have no ability to attract this level of player and the players that they are attempting to strong arm into the GA Aspire teams from LE are mid-level NCSL players AT BEST. There will never be an opportunity for those players to train with, guest play or move into the NVA GA environment. There is not enough patience in the world to see that happen.


You may be right, but who knows how this pans out. I've seen some strong players on GFR teams with no where to go, ECNL teams in the area won't even let them try out. I do know this, there is a lot of talent in Fairfax who do not have access to travel soccer because of the cost. Perhaps that will be RBFC's plan, to tap into that pool. I have heard that they have very deep pockets and are committed to building for the long haul.


Why would an ECNL team not let any top GFR players tryout?
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Anonymous wrote:Why are people so interested in this club? Who really cares, let them try to be successful. They have leadership from Arlington Soccer, one of the strongest clubs in the region and enough capital to build something the right way in a area where it seems another option is not a bad idea.


Melissa already left this train wreck, actually


Wait, the one competent person they had bailed?


I heard she got fired, actually. Butted heads with some folks.....


She’s still on the website?


She's definitely gone. I don't know for sure the circumstances but she is not with RbFC.
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Anonymous wrote:Why would Loudoun remain connected to NVA now that they have their own GA and Aspire? Wouldn't they be better suited keeping all of their talent going forward? Are NVA employees still part of Loudoun staff and therefore the partnership. How can the pathway to NVA be Loudoun top teams and RBFC Aspire. Does Loudoun receive kickbacks for allowing NVA to use their fields? If the partnership broke, how would NVA get fields? Does Loudoun also have MLSN homegrown on the boys side or only NVA? This is all a bit confusing the way it is currently set-up.


Im pretty sure the ED and TD of Loudoun are the ones that run NVA


Still boggles the mind that folks don't understand Loudoun/NVA are two separate brands operated by the same people/organization. There is zero daylight between the too. Just look at your registration receipts.


Loudoun is becoming more like a feeder club to NVA and customers are catching on. and NVA can't financially operate on its own so brought Riverbend as another feeder club but more as extra revenue. Nothing more than that.


It’s kind of comical how confidently people post on here without actually understanding the structure.

Loudoun and NVA are already operated under the same ownership umbrella and share a lot of the same resources. But because both clubs compete in GA, there can’t just be free roster movement between them during the season.

Riverbend is different. It’s being positioned as an Aspire pathway club, which does allow in-season player movement with NVA. It also gives NVA a stronger footprint in a different county and creates a more direct pathway for Fairfax-area players into the system.

This isn’t some overnight “2027 season” play. They’re clearly building a long-term player development pipeline and regional structure that will probably take a few years to fully develop.


You lost me at "aspire pathway"


That’s fine, but that’s literally how the structure works.

GA clubs in the same league can’t freely move players back and forth in-season, which is why the Aspire designation matters here. Riverbend gives them a development and movement pathway that Loudoun can’t provide under current GA rules.

You don’t have to like the strategy, but there’s a difference between disagreeing with it and pretending it doesn’t exist.


Again I ask, how is Riverbend giving them anything when they have no players?


The Riverbend Aspire setup actually creates something that a lot of clubs in the area currently don’t have: a real internal pathway for girls who develop later or want to push to a higher level.

Right now at GFR, the highest level on the girls side is ECNL-RL, which depending on the team is probably comparable to Aspire anyway. But if a player there outgrows that environment and wants GA-level opportunities, the only real option is usually leaving the club and trying out somewhere else.

With Riverbend being connected into the NVA structure through Aspire, their top players will likely have opportunities to train with, guest play, and potentially move into the NVA GA environment over time. That’s a very different model than just being capped at one level inside your own club.

People keep acting like this is only about branding or league labels, but from a player development standpoint, the pathway piece is the real story. And it will take a few seasons to build I think, but who knows.


This will never happen with Riverbend. They have no ability to attract this level of player and the players that they are attempting to strong arm into the GA Aspire teams from LE are mid-level NCSL players AT BEST. There will never be an opportunity for those players to train with, guest play or move into the NVA GA environment. There is not enough patience in the world to see that happen.


You may be right, but who knows how this pans out. I've seen some strong players on GFR teams with no where to go, ECNL teams in the area won't even let them try out. I do know this, there is a lot of talent in Fairfax who do not have access to travel soccer because of the cost. Perhaps that will be RBFC's plan, to tap into that pool. I have heard that they have very deep pockets and are committed to building for the long haul.


Why would an ECNL team not let any top GFR players tryout?


Fairfax Union for instance would not consider a player from ECNL RL. They will pull from local GA teams but not RL.
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Anonymous wrote:Why would Loudoun remain connected to NVA now that they have their own GA and Aspire? Wouldn't they be better suited keeping all of their talent going forward? Are NVA employees still part of Loudoun staff and therefore the partnership. How can the pathway to NVA be Loudoun top teams and RBFC Aspire. Does Loudoun receive kickbacks for allowing NVA to use their fields? If the partnership broke, how would NVA get fields? Does Loudoun also have MLSN homegrown on the boys side or only NVA? This is all a bit confusing the way it is currently set-up.


Im pretty sure the ED and TD of Loudoun are the ones that run NVA


Still boggles the mind that folks don't understand Loudoun/NVA are two separate brands operated by the same people/organization. There is zero daylight between the too. Just look at your registration receipts.


Loudoun is becoming more like a feeder club to NVA and customers are catching on. and NVA can't financially operate on its own so brought Riverbend as another feeder club but more as extra revenue. Nothing more than that.


It’s kind of comical how confidently people post on here without actually understanding the structure.

Loudoun and NVA are already operated under the same ownership umbrella and share a lot of the same resources. But because both clubs compete in GA, there can’t just be free roster movement between them during the season.

Riverbend is different. It’s being positioned as an Aspire pathway club, which does allow in-season player movement with NVA. It also gives NVA a stronger footprint in a different county and creates a more direct pathway for Fairfax-area players into the system.

This isn’t some overnight “2027 season” play. They’re clearly building a long-term player development pipeline and regional structure that will probably take a few years to fully develop.


You lost me at "aspire pathway"


That’s fine, but that’s literally how the structure works.

GA clubs in the same league can’t freely move players back and forth in-season, which is why the Aspire designation matters here. Riverbend gives them a development and movement pathway that Loudoun can’t provide under current GA rules.

You don’t have to like the strategy, but there’s a difference between disagreeing with it and pretending it doesn’t exist.


Again I ask, how is Riverbend giving them anything when they have no players?


The Riverbend Aspire setup actually creates something that a lot of clubs in the area currently don’t have: a real internal pathway for girls who develop later or want to push to a higher level.

Right now at GFR, the highest level on the girls side is ECNL-RL, which depending on the team is probably comparable to Aspire anyway. But if a player there outgrows that environment and wants GA-level opportunities, the only real option is usually leaving the club and trying out somewhere else.

With Riverbend being connected into the NVA structure through Aspire, their top players will likely have opportunities to train with, guest play, and potentially move into the NVA GA environment over time. That’s a very different model than just being capped at one level inside your own club.

People keep acting like this is only about branding or league labels, but from a player development standpoint, the pathway piece is the real story. And it will take a few seasons to build I think, but who knows.


This will never happen with Riverbend. They have no ability to attract this level of player and the players that they are attempting to strong arm into the GA Aspire teams from LE are mid-level NCSL players AT BEST. There will never be an opportunity for those players to train with, guest play or move into the NVA GA environment. There is not enough patience in the world to see that happen.


You may be right, but who knows how this pans out. I've seen some strong players on GFR teams with no where to go, ECNL teams in the area won't even let them try out. I do know this, there is a lot of talent in Fairfax who do not have access to travel soccer because of the cost. Perhaps that will be RBFC's plan, to tap into that pool. I have heard that they have very deep pockets and are committed to building for the long haul.


Why would an ECNL team not let any top GFR players tryout?


They wouldn't - this is crazy. GFR players leave for ECNL every year.
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Anonymous wrote:Why would Loudoun remain connected to NVA now that they have their own GA and Aspire? Wouldn't they be better suited keeping all of their talent going forward? Are NVA employees still part of Loudoun staff and therefore the partnership. How can the pathway to NVA be Loudoun top teams and RBFC Aspire. Does Loudoun receive kickbacks for allowing NVA to use their fields? If the partnership broke, how would NVA get fields? Does Loudoun also have MLSN homegrown on the boys side or only NVA? This is all a bit confusing the way it is currently set-up.


Im pretty sure the ED and TD of Loudoun are the ones that run NVA


Still boggles the mind that folks don't understand Loudoun/NVA are two separate brands operated by the same people/organization. There is zero daylight between the too. Just look at your registration receipts.


Loudoun is becoming more like a feeder club to NVA and customers are catching on. and NVA can't financially operate on its own so brought Riverbend as another feeder club but more as extra revenue. Nothing more than that.


It’s kind of comical how confidently people post on here without actually understanding the structure.

Loudoun and NVA are already operated under the same ownership umbrella and share a lot of the same resources. But because both clubs compete in GA, there can’t just be free roster movement between them during the season.

Riverbend is different. It’s being positioned as an Aspire pathway club, which does allow in-season player movement with NVA. It also gives NVA a stronger footprint in a different county and creates a more direct pathway for Fairfax-area players into the system.

This isn’t some overnight “2027 season” play. They’re clearly building a long-term player development pipeline and regional structure that will probably take a few years to fully develop.


You lost me at "aspire pathway"


That’s fine, but that’s literally how the structure works.

GA clubs in the same league can’t freely move players back and forth in-season, which is why the Aspire designation matters here. Riverbend gives them a development and movement pathway that Loudoun can’t provide under current GA rules.

You don’t have to like the strategy, but there’s a difference between disagreeing with it and pretending it doesn’t exist.


Again I ask, how is Riverbend giving them anything when they have no players?


The Riverbend Aspire setup actually creates something that a lot of clubs in the area currently don’t have: a real internal pathway for girls who develop later or want to push to a higher level.

Right now at GFR, the highest level on the girls side is ECNL-RL, which depending on the team is probably comparable to Aspire anyway. But if a player there outgrows that environment and wants GA-level opportunities, the only real option is usually leaving the club and trying out somewhere else.

With Riverbend being connected into the NVA structure through Aspire, their top players will likely have opportunities to train with, guest play, and potentially move into the NVA GA environment over time. That’s a very different model than just being capped at one level inside your own club.

People keep acting like this is only about branding or league labels, but from a player development standpoint, the pathway piece is the real story. And it will take a few seasons to build I think, but who knows.


This will never happen with Riverbend. They have no ability to attract this level of player and the players that they are attempting to strong arm into the GA Aspire teams from LE are mid-level NCSL players AT BEST. There will never be an opportunity for those players to train with, guest play or move into the NVA GA environment. There is not enough patience in the world to see that happen.


You may be right, but who knows how this pans out. I've seen some strong players on GFR teams with no where to go, ECNL teams in the area won't even let them try out. I do know this, there is a lot of talent in Fairfax who do not have access to travel soccer because of the cost. Perhaps that will be RBFC's plan, to tap into that pool. I have heard that they have very deep pockets and are committed to building for the long haul.


Why would an ECNL team not let any top GFR players tryout?


Fairfax Union for instance would not consider a player from ECNL RL. They will pull from local GA teams but not RL.


Not true. FVU will take any player that is capable of competing at that level, regardless of where they are currently playing. This is silly.
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Anonymous wrote:Why would Loudoun remain connected to NVA now that they have their own GA and Aspire? Wouldn't they be better suited keeping all of their talent going forward? Are NVA employees still part of Loudoun staff and therefore the partnership. How can the pathway to NVA be Loudoun top teams and RBFC Aspire. Does Loudoun receive kickbacks for allowing NVA to use their fields? If the partnership broke, how would NVA get fields? Does Loudoun also have MLSN homegrown on the boys side or only NVA? This is all a bit confusing the way it is currently set-up.


Im pretty sure the ED and TD of Loudoun are the ones that run NVA


Still boggles the mind that folks don't understand Loudoun/NVA are two separate brands operated by the same people/organization. There is zero daylight between the too. Just look at your registration receipts.


Loudoun is becoming more like a feeder club to NVA and customers are catching on. and NVA can't financially operate on its own so brought Riverbend as another feeder club but more as extra revenue. Nothing more than that.


It’s kind of comical how confidently people post on here without actually understanding the structure.

Loudoun and NVA are already operated under the same ownership umbrella and share a lot of the same resources. But because both clubs compete in GA, there can’t just be free roster movement between them during the season.

Riverbend is different. It’s being positioned as an Aspire pathway club, which does allow in-season player movement with NVA. It also gives NVA a stronger footprint in a different county and creates a more direct pathway for Fairfax-area players into the system.

This isn’t some overnight “2027 season” play. They’re clearly building a long-term player development pipeline and regional structure that will probably take a few years to fully develop.


You lost me at "aspire pathway"


That’s fine, but that’s literally how the structure works.

GA clubs in the same league can’t freely move players back and forth in-season, which is why the Aspire designation matters here. Riverbend gives them a development and movement pathway that Loudoun can’t provide under current GA rules.

You don’t have to like the strategy, but there’s a difference between disagreeing with it and pretending it doesn’t exist.


Again I ask, how is Riverbend giving them anything when they have no players?


The Riverbend Aspire setup actually creates something that a lot of clubs in the area currently don’t have: a real internal pathway for girls who develop later or want to push to a higher level.

Right now at GFR, the highest level on the girls side is ECNL-RL, which depending on the team is probably comparable to Aspire anyway. But if a player there outgrows that environment and wants GA-level opportunities, the only real option is usually leaving the club and trying out somewhere else.

With Riverbend being connected into the NVA structure through Aspire, their top players will likely have opportunities to train with, guest play, and potentially move into the NVA GA environment over time. That’s a very different model than just being capped at one level inside your own club.

People keep acting like this is only about branding or league labels, but from a player development standpoint, the pathway piece is the real story. And it will take a few seasons to build I think, but who knows.


This will never happen with Riverbend. They have no ability to attract this level of player and the players that they are attempting to strong arm into the GA Aspire teams from LE are mid-level NCSL players AT BEST. There will never be an opportunity for those players to train with, guest play or move into the NVA GA environment. There is not enough patience in the world to see that happen.


You may be right, but who knows how this pans out. I've seen some strong players on GFR teams with no where to go, ECNL teams in the area won't even let them try out. I do know this, there is a lot of talent in Fairfax who do not have access to travel soccer because of the cost. Perhaps that will be RBFC's plan, to tap into that pool. I have heard that they have very deep pockets and are committed to building for the long haul.


Why would an ECNL team not let any top GFR players tryout?


Fairfax Union for instance would not consider a player from ECNL RL. They will pull from local GA teams but not RL.


Skeptical this is true but they are not really a shining light of a well-run organization anyways.
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Anonymous wrote:Why would Loudoun remain connected to NVA now that they have their own GA and Aspire? Wouldn't they be better suited keeping all of their talent going forward? Are NVA employees still part of Loudoun staff and therefore the partnership. How can the pathway to NVA be Loudoun top teams and RBFC Aspire. Does Loudoun receive kickbacks for allowing NVA to use their fields? If the partnership broke, how would NVA get fields? Does Loudoun also have MLSN homegrown on the boys side or only NVA? This is all a bit confusing the way it is currently set-up.


Im pretty sure the ED and TD of Loudoun are the ones that run NVA


Still boggles the mind that folks don't understand Loudoun/NVA are two separate brands operated by the same people/organization. There is zero daylight between the too. Just look at your registration receipts.


Loudoun is becoming more like a feeder club to NVA and customers are catching on. and NVA can't financially operate on its own so brought Riverbend as another feeder club but more as extra revenue. Nothing more than that.


It’s kind of comical how confidently people post on here without actually understanding the structure.

Loudoun and NVA are already operated under the same ownership umbrella and share a lot of the same resources. But because both clubs compete in GA, there can’t just be free roster movement between them during the season.

Riverbend is different. It’s being positioned as an Aspire pathway club, which does allow in-season player movement with NVA. It also gives NVA a stronger footprint in a different county and creates a more direct pathway for Fairfax-area players into the system.

This isn’t some overnight “2027 season” play. They’re clearly building a long-term player development pipeline and regional structure that will probably take a few years to fully develop.


You lost me at "aspire pathway"


That’s fine, but that’s literally how the structure works.

GA clubs in the same league can’t freely move players back and forth in-season, which is why the Aspire designation matters here. Riverbend gives them a development and movement pathway that Loudoun can’t provide under current GA rules.

You don’t have to like the strategy, but there’s a difference between disagreeing with it and pretending it doesn’t exist.


Again I ask, how is Riverbend giving them anything when they have no players?


The Riverbend Aspire setup actually creates something that a lot of clubs in the area currently don’t have: a real internal pathway for girls who develop later or want to push to a higher level.

Right now at GFR, the highest level on the girls side is ECNL-RL, which depending on the team is probably comparable to Aspire anyway. But if a player there outgrows that environment and wants GA-level opportunities, the only real option is usually leaving the club and trying out somewhere else.

With Riverbend being connected into the NVA structure through Aspire, their top players will likely have opportunities to train with, guest play, and potentially move into the NVA GA environment over time. That’s a very different model than just being capped at one level inside your own club.

People keep acting like this is only about branding or league labels, but from a player development standpoint, the pathway piece is the real story. And it will take a few seasons to build I think, but who knows.


This will never happen with Riverbend. They have no ability to attract this level of player and the players that they are attempting to strong arm into the GA Aspire teams from LE are mid-level NCSL players AT BEST. There will never be an opportunity for those players to train with, guest play or move into the NVA GA environment. There is not enough patience in the world to see that happen.


You may be right, but who knows how this pans out. I've seen some strong players on GFR teams with no where to go, ECNL teams in the area won't even let them try out. I do know this, there is a lot of talent in Fairfax who do not have access to travel soccer because of the cost. Perhaps that will be RBFC's plan, to tap into that pool. I have heard that they have very deep pockets and are committed to building for the long haul.


Why would an ECNL team not let any top GFR players tryout?


Fairfax Union for instance would not consider a player from ECNL RL. They will pull from local GA teams but not RL.


Not true. FVU will take any player that is capable of competing at that level, regardless of where they are currently playing. This is silly.


Facts are facts. We see their rosters
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Anonymous wrote:Why would Loudoun remain connected to NVA now that they have their own GA and Aspire? Wouldn't they be better suited keeping all of their talent going forward? Are NVA employees still part of Loudoun staff and therefore the partnership. How can the pathway to NVA be Loudoun top teams and RBFC Aspire. Does Loudoun receive kickbacks for allowing NVA to use their fields? If the partnership broke, how would NVA get fields? Does Loudoun also have MLSN homegrown on the boys side or only NVA? This is all a bit confusing the way it is currently set-up.


Im pretty sure the ED and TD of Loudoun are the ones that run NVA


Still boggles the mind that folks don't understand Loudoun/NVA are two separate brands operated by the same people/organization. There is zero daylight between the too. Just look at your registration receipts.


Loudoun is becoming more like a feeder club to NVA and customers are catching on. and NVA can't financially operate on its own so brought Riverbend as another feeder club but more as extra revenue. Nothing more than that.


It’s kind of comical how confidently people post on here without actually understanding the structure.

Loudoun and NVA are already operated under the same ownership umbrella and share a lot of the same resources. But because both clubs compete in GA, there can’t just be free roster movement between them during the season.

Riverbend is different. It’s being positioned as an Aspire pathway club, which does allow in-season player movement with NVA. It also gives NVA a stronger footprint in a different county and creates a more direct pathway for Fairfax-area players into the system.

This isn’t some overnight “2027 season” play. They’re clearly building a long-term player development pipeline and regional structure that will probably take a few years to fully develop.


You lost me at "aspire pathway"


That’s fine, but that’s literally how the structure works.

GA clubs in the same league can’t freely move players back and forth in-season, which is why the Aspire designation matters here. Riverbend gives them a development and movement pathway that Loudoun can’t provide under current GA rules.

You don’t have to like the strategy, but there’s a difference between disagreeing with it and pretending it doesn’t exist.


Again I ask, how is Riverbend giving them anything when they have no players?


The Riverbend Aspire setup actually creates something that a lot of clubs in the area currently don’t have: a real internal pathway for girls who develop later or want to push to a higher level.

Right now at GFR, the highest level on the girls side is ECNL-RL, which depending on the team is probably comparable to Aspire anyway. But if a player there outgrows that environment and wants GA-level opportunities, the only real option is usually leaving the club and trying out somewhere else.

With Riverbend being connected into the NVA structure through Aspire, their top players will likely have opportunities to train with, guest play, and potentially move into the NVA GA environment over time. That’s a very different model than just being capped at one level inside your own club.

People keep acting like this is only about branding or league labels, but from a player development standpoint, the pathway piece is the real story. And it will take a few seasons to build I think, but who knows.


This will never happen with Riverbend. They have no ability to attract this level of player and the players that they are attempting to strong arm into the GA Aspire teams from LE are mid-level NCSL players AT BEST. There will never be an opportunity for those players to train with, guest play or move into the NVA GA environment. There is not enough patience in the world to see that happen.


You may be right, but who knows how this pans out. I've seen some strong players on GFR teams with no where to go, ECNL teams in the area won't even let them try out. I do know this, there is a lot of talent in Fairfax who do not have access to travel soccer because of the cost. Perhaps that will be RBFC's plan, to tap into that pool. I have heard that they have very deep pockets and are committed to building for the long haul.


Why would an ECNL team not let any top GFR players tryout?


Fairfax Union for instance would not consider a player from ECNL RL. They will pull from local GA teams but not RL.


Not true. FVU will take any player that is capable of competing at that level, regardless of where they are currently playing. This is silly.


No offense, but I suspect most GFR players would not want to play for the current FVU coaches.
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Anonymous wrote:Why would Loudoun remain connected to NVA now that they have their own GA and Aspire? Wouldn't they be better suited keeping all of their talent going forward? Are NVA employees still part of Loudoun staff and therefore the partnership. How can the pathway to NVA be Loudoun top teams and RBFC Aspire. Does Loudoun receive kickbacks for allowing NVA to use their fields? If the partnership broke, how would NVA get fields? Does Loudoun also have MLSN homegrown on the boys side or only NVA? This is all a bit confusing the way it is currently set-up.


Im pretty sure the ED and TD of Loudoun are the ones that run NVA


Still boggles the mind that folks don't understand Loudoun/NVA are two separate brands operated by the same people/organization. There is zero daylight between the too. Just look at your registration receipts.


Loudoun is becoming more like a feeder club to NVA and customers are catching on. and NVA can't financially operate on its own so brought Riverbend as another feeder club but more as extra revenue. Nothing more than that.


It’s kind of comical how confidently people post on here without actually understanding the structure.

Loudoun and NVA are already operated under the same ownership umbrella and share a lot of the same resources. But because both clubs compete in GA, there can’t just be free roster movement between them during the season.

Riverbend is different. It’s being positioned as an Aspire pathway club, which does allow in-season player movement with NVA. It also gives NVA a stronger footprint in a different county and creates a more direct pathway for Fairfax-area players into the system.

This isn’t some overnight “2027 season” play. They’re clearly building a long-term player development pipeline and regional structure that will probably take a few years to fully develop.


You lost me at "aspire pathway"


That’s fine, but that’s literally how the structure works.

GA clubs in the same league can’t freely move players back and forth in-season, which is why the Aspire designation matters here. Riverbend gives them a development and movement pathway that Loudoun can’t provide under current GA rules.

You don’t have to like the strategy, but there’s a difference between disagreeing with it and pretending it doesn’t exist.


Again I ask, how is Riverbend giving them anything when they have no players?


The Riverbend Aspire setup actually creates something that a lot of clubs in the area currently don’t have: a real internal pathway for girls who develop later or want to push to a higher level.

Right now at GFR, the highest level on the girls side is ECNL-RL, which depending on the team is probably comparable to Aspire anyway. But if a player there outgrows that environment and wants GA-level opportunities, the only real option is usually leaving the club and trying out somewhere else.

With Riverbend being connected into the NVA structure through Aspire, their top players will likely have opportunities to train with, guest play, and potentially move into the NVA GA environment over time. That’s a very different model than just being capped at one level inside your own club.

People keep acting like this is only about branding or league labels, but from a player development standpoint, the pathway piece is the real story. And it will take a few seasons to build I think, but who knows.


This will never happen with Riverbend. They have no ability to attract this level of player and the players that they are attempting to strong arm into the GA Aspire teams from LE are mid-level NCSL players AT BEST. There will never be an opportunity for those players to train with, guest play or move into the NVA GA environment. There is not enough patience in the world to see that happen.


You may be right, but who knows how this pans out. I've seen some strong players on GFR teams with no where to go, ECNL teams in the area won't even let them try out. I do know this, there is a lot of talent in Fairfax who do not have access to travel soccer because of the cost. Perhaps that will be RBFC's plan, to tap into that pool. I have heard that they have very deep pockets and are committed to building for the long haul.


Why would an ECNL team not let any top GFR players tryout?


Fairfax Union for instance would not consider a player from ECNL RL. They will pull from local GA teams but not RL.


Not true. FVU will take any player that is capable of competing at that level, regardless of where they are currently playing. This is silly.


You don't see any movement from Arlington ECNL RL to Arlington ECNL either
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Anonymous wrote:Why would Loudoun remain connected to NVA now that they have their own GA and Aspire? Wouldn't they be better suited keeping all of their talent going forward? Are NVA employees still part of Loudoun staff and therefore the partnership. How can the pathway to NVA be Loudoun top teams and RBFC Aspire. Does Loudoun receive kickbacks for allowing NVA to use their fields? If the partnership broke, how would NVA get fields? Does Loudoun also have MLSN homegrown on the boys side or only NVA? This is all a bit confusing the way it is currently set-up.


Im pretty sure the ED and TD of Loudoun are the ones that run NVA


Still boggles the mind that folks don't understand Loudoun/NVA are two separate brands operated by the same people/organization. There is zero daylight between the too. Just look at your registration receipts.


Loudoun is becoming more like a feeder club to NVA and customers are catching on. and NVA can't financially operate on its own so brought Riverbend as another feeder club but more as extra revenue. Nothing more than that.


It’s kind of comical how confidently people post on here without actually understanding the structure.

Loudoun and NVA are already operated under the same ownership umbrella and share a lot of the same resources. But because both clubs compete in GA, there can’t just be free roster movement between them during the season.

Riverbend is different. It’s being positioned as an Aspire pathway club, which does allow in-season player movement with NVA. It also gives NVA a stronger footprint in a different county and creates a more direct pathway for Fairfax-area players into the system.

This isn’t some overnight “2027 season” play. They’re clearly building a long-term player development pipeline and regional structure that will probably take a few years to fully develop.


You lost me at "aspire pathway"


That’s fine, but that’s literally how the structure works.

GA clubs in the same league can’t freely move players back and forth in-season, which is why the Aspire designation matters here. Riverbend gives them a development and movement pathway that Loudoun can’t provide under current GA rules.

You don’t have to like the strategy, but there’s a difference between disagreeing with it and pretending it doesn’t exist.


Again I ask, how is Riverbend giving them anything when they have no players?


The Riverbend Aspire setup actually creates something that a lot of clubs in the area currently don’t have: a real internal pathway for girls who develop later or want to push to a higher level.

Right now at GFR, the highest level on the girls side is ECNL-RL, which depending on the team is probably comparable to Aspire anyway. But if a player there outgrows that environment and wants GA-level opportunities, the only real option is usually leaving the club and trying out somewhere else.

With Riverbend being connected into the NVA structure through Aspire, their top players will likely have opportunities to train with, guest play, and potentially move into the NVA GA environment over time. That’s a very different model than just being capped at one level inside your own club.

People keep acting like this is only about branding or league labels, but from a player development standpoint, the pathway piece is the real story. And it will take a few seasons to build I think, but who knows.


This will never happen with Riverbend. They have no ability to attract this level of player and the players that they are attempting to strong arm into the GA Aspire teams from LE are mid-level NCSL players AT BEST. There will never be an opportunity for those players to train with, guest play or move into the NVA GA environment. There is not enough patience in the world to see that happen.


You may be right, but who knows how this pans out. I've seen some strong players on GFR teams with no where to go, ECNL teams in the area won't even let them try out. I do know this, there is a lot of talent in Fairfax who do not have access to travel soccer because of the cost. Perhaps that will be RBFC's plan, to tap into that pool. I have heard that they have very deep pockets and are committed to building for the long haul.


Why would an ECNL team not let any top GFR players tryout?


Fairfax Union for instance would not consider a player from ECNL RL. They will pull from local GA teams but not RL.


Not true. FVU will take any player that is capable of competing at that level, regardless of where they are currently playing. This is silly.


Facts are facts. We see their rosters


hahaha. There are certainly kids from GFR on various NoVa ECNL-NL rosters, including kids that went straight from older RL teams. But please do go on and tell us all the provenance of all 250 FVU kids.
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Anonymous wrote:Why would Loudoun remain connected to NVA now that they have their own GA and Aspire? Wouldn't they be better suited keeping all of their talent going forward? Are NVA employees still part of Loudoun staff and therefore the partnership. How can the pathway to NVA be Loudoun top teams and RBFC Aspire. Does Loudoun receive kickbacks for allowing NVA to use their fields? If the partnership broke, how would NVA get fields? Does Loudoun also have MLSN homegrown on the boys side or only NVA? This is all a bit confusing the way it is currently set-up.


Im pretty sure the ED and TD of Loudoun are the ones that run NVA


Still boggles the mind that folks don't understand Loudoun/NVA are two separate brands operated by the same people/organization. There is zero daylight between the too. Just look at your registration receipts.


Loudoun is becoming more like a feeder club to NVA and customers are catching on. and NVA can't financially operate on its own so brought Riverbend as another feeder club but more as extra revenue. Nothing more than that.


It’s kind of comical how confidently people post on here without actually understanding the structure.

Loudoun and NVA are already operated under the same ownership umbrella and share a lot of the same resources. But because both clubs compete in GA, there can’t just be free roster movement between them during the season.

Riverbend is different. It’s being positioned as an Aspire pathway club, which does allow in-season player movement with NVA. It also gives NVA a stronger footprint in a different county and creates a more direct pathway for Fairfax-area players into the system.

This isn’t some overnight “2027 season” play. They’re clearly building a long-term player development pipeline and regional structure that will probably take a few years to fully develop.


You lost me at "aspire pathway"


That’s fine, but that’s literally how the structure works.

GA clubs in the same league can’t freely move players back and forth in-season, which is why the Aspire designation matters here. Riverbend gives them a development and movement pathway that Loudoun can’t provide under current GA rules.

You don’t have to like the strategy, but there’s a difference between disagreeing with it and pretending it doesn’t exist.


Again I ask, how is Riverbend giving them anything when they have no players?


The Riverbend Aspire setup actually creates something that a lot of clubs in the area currently don’t have: a real internal pathway for girls who develop later or want to push to a higher level.

Right now at GFR, the highest level on the girls side is ECNL-RL, which depending on the team is probably comparable to Aspire anyway. But if a player there outgrows that environment and wants GA-level opportunities, the only real option is usually leaving the club and trying out somewhere else.

With Riverbend being connected into the NVA structure through Aspire, their top players will likely have opportunities to train with, guest play, and potentially move into the NVA GA environment over time. That’s a very different model than just being capped at one level inside your own club.

People keep acting like this is only about branding or league labels, but from a player development standpoint, the pathway piece is the real story. And it will take a few seasons to build I think, but who knows.


This will never happen with Riverbend. They have no ability to attract this level of player and the players that they are attempting to strong arm into the GA Aspire teams from LE are mid-level NCSL players AT BEST. There will never be an opportunity for those players to train with, guest play or move into the NVA GA environment. There is not enough patience in the world to see that happen.


You may be right, but who knows how this pans out. I've seen some strong players on GFR teams with no where to go, ECNL teams in the area won't even let them try out. I do know this, there is a lot of talent in Fairfax who do not have access to travel soccer because of the cost. Perhaps that will be RBFC's plan, to tap into that pool. I have heard that they have very deep pockets and are committed to building for the long haul.


Why would an ECNL team not let any top GFR players tryout?


Fairfax Union for instance would not consider a player from ECNL RL. They will pull from local GA teams but not RL.


Not true. FVU will take any player that is capable of competing at that level, regardless of where they are currently playing. This is silly.


Facts are facts. We see their rosters


hahaha. There are certainly kids from GFR on various NoVa ECNL-NL rosters, including kids that went straight from older RL teams. But please do go on and tell us all the provenance of all 250 FVU kids.


125 FVU kids, and not one played GFR ECNL RL
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Anonymous wrote:Why would Loudoun remain connected to NVA now that they have their own GA and Aspire? Wouldn't they be better suited keeping all of their talent going forward? Are NVA employees still part of Loudoun staff and therefore the partnership. How can the pathway to NVA be Loudoun top teams and RBFC Aspire. Does Loudoun receive kickbacks for allowing NVA to use their fields? If the partnership broke, how would NVA get fields? Does Loudoun also have MLSN homegrown on the boys side or only NVA? This is all a bit confusing the way it is currently set-up.


Im pretty sure the ED and TD of Loudoun are the ones that run NVA


Still boggles the mind that folks don't understand Loudoun/NVA are two separate brands operated by the same people/organization. There is zero daylight between the too. Just look at your registration receipts.


Loudoun is becoming more like a feeder club to NVA and customers are catching on. and NVA can't financially operate on its own so brought Riverbend as another feeder club but more as extra revenue. Nothing more than that.


It’s kind of comical how confidently people post on here without actually understanding the structure.

Loudoun and NVA are already operated under the same ownership umbrella and share a lot of the same resources. But because both clubs compete in GA, there can’t just be free roster movement between them during the season.

Riverbend is different. It’s being positioned as an Aspire pathway club, which does allow in-season player movement with NVA. It also gives NVA a stronger footprint in a different county and creates a more direct pathway for Fairfax-area players into the system.

This isn’t some overnight “2027 season” play. They’re clearly building a long-term player development pipeline and regional structure that will probably take a few years to fully develop.


You lost me at "aspire pathway"


That’s fine, but that’s literally how the structure works.

GA clubs in the same league can’t freely move players back and forth in-season, which is why the Aspire designation matters here. Riverbend gives them a development and movement pathway that Loudoun can’t provide under current GA rules.

You don’t have to like the strategy, but there’s a difference between disagreeing with it and pretending it doesn’t exist.


Again I ask, how is Riverbend giving them anything when they have no players?


The Riverbend Aspire setup actually creates something that a lot of clubs in the area currently don’t have: a real internal pathway for girls who develop later or want to push to a higher level.

Right now at GFR, the highest level on the girls side is ECNL-RL, which depending on the team is probably comparable to Aspire anyway. But if a player there outgrows that environment and wants GA-level opportunities, the only real option is usually leaving the club and trying out somewhere else.

With Riverbend being connected into the NVA structure through Aspire, their top players will likely have opportunities to train with, guest play, and potentially move into the NVA GA environment over time. That’s a very different model than just being capped at one level inside your own club.

People keep acting like this is only about branding or league labels, but from a player development standpoint, the pathway piece is the real story. And it will take a few seasons to build I think, but who knows.


This will never happen with Riverbend. They have no ability to attract this level of player and the players that they are attempting to strong arm into the GA Aspire teams from LE are mid-level NCSL players AT BEST. There will never be an opportunity for those players to train with, guest play or move into the NVA GA environment. There is not enough patience in the world to see that happen.


You may be right, but who knows how this pans out. I've seen some strong players on GFR teams with no where to go, ECNL teams in the area won't even let them try out. I do know this, there is a lot of talent in Fairfax who do not have access to travel soccer because of the cost. Perhaps that will be RBFC's plan, to tap into that pool. I have heard that they have very deep pockets and are committed to building for the long haul.


Why would an ECNL team not let any top GFR players tryout?


Fairfax Union for instance would not consider a player from ECNL RL. They will pull from local GA teams but not RL.


Not true. FVU will take any player that is capable of competing at that level, regardless of where they are currently playing. This is silly.


Facts are facts. We see their rosters


hahaha. There are certainly kids from GFR on various NoVa ECNL-NL rosters, including kids that went straight from older RL teams. But please do go on and tell us all the provenance of all 250 FVU kids.


125 FVU kids, and not one played GFR ECNL RL


I would definitely not call that a pathway for GFR.
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Anonymous wrote:Why would Loudoun remain connected to NVA now that they have their own GA and Aspire? Wouldn't they be better suited keeping all of their talent going forward? Are NVA employees still part of Loudoun staff and therefore the partnership. How can the pathway to NVA be Loudoun top teams and RBFC Aspire. Does Loudoun receive kickbacks for allowing NVA to use their fields? If the partnership broke, how would NVA get fields? Does Loudoun also have MLSN homegrown on the boys side or only NVA? This is all a bit confusing the way it is currently set-up.


Im pretty sure the ED and TD of Loudoun are the ones that run NVA


Still boggles the mind that folks don't understand Loudoun/NVA are two separate brands operated by the same people/organization. There is zero daylight between the too. Just look at your registration receipts.


Loudoun is becoming more like a feeder club to NVA and customers are catching on. and NVA can't financially operate on its own so brought Riverbend as another feeder club but more as extra revenue. Nothing more than that.


It’s kind of comical how confidently people post on here without actually understanding the structure.

Loudoun and NVA are already operated under the same ownership umbrella and share a lot of the same resources. But because both clubs compete in GA, there can’t just be free roster movement between them during the season.

Riverbend is different. It’s being positioned as an Aspire pathway club, which does allow in-season player movement with NVA. It also gives NVA a stronger footprint in a different county and creates a more direct pathway for Fairfax-area players into the system.

This isn’t some overnight “2027 season” play. They’re clearly building a long-term player development pipeline and regional structure that will probably take a few years to fully develop.


You lost me at "aspire pathway"


That’s fine, but that’s literally how the structure works.

GA clubs in the same league can’t freely move players back and forth in-season, which is why the Aspire designation matters here. Riverbend gives them a development and movement pathway that Loudoun can’t provide under current GA rules.

You don’t have to like the strategy, but there’s a difference between disagreeing with it and pretending it doesn’t exist.


Again I ask, how is Riverbend giving them anything when they have no players?


The Riverbend Aspire setup actually creates something that a lot of clubs in the area currently don’t have: a real internal pathway for girls who develop later or want to push to a higher level.

Right now at GFR, the highest level on the girls side is ECNL-RL, which depending on the team is probably comparable to Aspire anyway. But if a player there outgrows that environment and wants GA-level opportunities, the only real option is usually leaving the club and trying out somewhere else.

With Riverbend being connected into the NVA structure through Aspire, their top players will likely have opportunities to train with, guest play, and potentially move into the NVA GA environment over time. That’s a very different model than just being capped at one level inside your own club.

People keep acting like this is only about branding or league labels, but from a player development standpoint, the pathway piece is the real story. And it will take a few seasons to build I think, but who knows.


This will never happen with Riverbend. They have no ability to attract this level of player and the players that they are attempting to strong arm into the GA Aspire teams from LE are mid-level NCSL players AT BEST. There will never be an opportunity for those players to train with, guest play or move into the NVA GA environment. There is not enough patience in the world to see that happen.


You may be right, but who knows how this pans out. I've seen some strong players on GFR teams with no where to go, ECNL teams in the area won't even let them try out. I do know this, there is a lot of talent in Fairfax who do not have access to travel soccer because of the cost. Perhaps that will be RBFC's plan, to tap into that pool. I have heard that they have very deep pockets and are committed to building for the long haul.


Why would an ECNL team not let any top GFR players tryout?


Fairfax Union for instance would not consider a player from ECNL RL. They will pull from local GA teams but not RL.


Not true. FVU will take any player that is capable of competing at that level, regardless of where they are currently playing. This is silly.


Facts are facts. We see their rosters


hahaha. There are certainly kids from GFR on various NoVa ECNL-NL rosters, including kids that went straight from older RL teams. But please do go on and tell us all the provenance of all 250 FVU kids.


125 FVU kids, and not one played GFR ECNL RL


Sorry, I won't take the word of someone who can't even do basic math. So I scanned through the rosters. There are several ex-GFR in just the three age groups I know. Why are you lying?
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Anonymous wrote:Why would Loudoun remain connected to NVA now that they have their own GA and Aspire? Wouldn't they be better suited keeping all of their talent going forward? Are NVA employees still part of Loudoun staff and therefore the partnership. How can the pathway to NVA be Loudoun top teams and RBFC Aspire. Does Loudoun receive kickbacks for allowing NVA to use their fields? If the partnership broke, how would NVA get fields? Does Loudoun also have MLSN homegrown on the boys side or only NVA? This is all a bit confusing the way it is currently set-up.


Im pretty sure the ED and TD of Loudoun are the ones that run NVA


Still boggles the mind that folks don't understand Loudoun/NVA are two separate brands operated by the same people/organization. There is zero daylight between the too. Just look at your registration receipts.


Loudoun is becoming more like a feeder club to NVA and customers are catching on. and NVA can't financially operate on its own so brought Riverbend as another feeder club but more as extra revenue. Nothing more than that.


It’s kind of comical how confidently people post on here without actually understanding the structure.

Loudoun and NVA are already operated under the same ownership umbrella and share a lot of the same resources. But because both clubs compete in GA, there can’t just be free roster movement between them during the season.

Riverbend is different. It’s being positioned as an Aspire pathway club, which does allow in-season player movement with NVA. It also gives NVA a stronger footprint in a different county and creates a more direct pathway for Fairfax-area players into the system.

This isn’t some overnight “2027 season” play. They’re clearly building a long-term player development pipeline and regional structure that will probably take a few years to fully develop.


You lost me at "aspire pathway"


That’s fine, but that’s literally how the structure works.

GA clubs in the same league can’t freely move players back and forth in-season, which is why the Aspire designation matters here. Riverbend gives them a development and movement pathway that Loudoun can’t provide under current GA rules.

You don’t have to like the strategy, but there’s a difference between disagreeing with it and pretending it doesn’t exist.


Again I ask, how is Riverbend giving them anything when they have no players?


The Riverbend Aspire setup actually creates something that a lot of clubs in the area currently don’t have: a real internal pathway for girls who develop later or want to push to a higher level.

Right now at GFR, the highest level on the girls side is ECNL-RL, which depending on the team is probably comparable to Aspire anyway. But if a player there outgrows that environment and wants GA-level opportunities, the only real option is usually leaving the club and trying out somewhere else.

With Riverbend being connected into the NVA structure through Aspire, their top players will likely have opportunities to train with, guest play, and potentially move into the NVA GA environment over time. That’s a very different model than just being capped at one level inside your own club.

People keep acting like this is only about branding or league labels, but from a player development standpoint, the pathway piece is the real story. And it will take a few seasons to build I think, but who knows.


This will never happen with Riverbend. They have no ability to attract this level of player and the players that they are attempting to strong arm into the GA Aspire teams from LE are mid-level NCSL players AT BEST. There will never be an opportunity for those players to train with, guest play or move into the NVA GA environment. There is not enough patience in the world to see that happen.


You may be right, but who knows how this pans out. I've seen some strong players on GFR teams with no where to go, ECNL teams in the area won't even let them try out. I do know this, there is a lot of talent in Fairfax who do not have access to travel soccer because of the cost. Perhaps that will be RBFC's plan, to tap into that pool. I have heard that they have very deep pockets and are committed to building for the long haul.


Why would an ECNL team not let any top GFR players tryout?


Fairfax Union for instance would not consider a player from ECNL RL. They will pull from local GA teams but not RL.


Not true. FVU will take any player that is capable of competing at that level, regardless of where they are currently playing. This is silly.


Facts are facts. We see their rosters


hahaha. There are certainly kids from GFR on various NoVa ECNL-NL rosters, including kids that went straight from older RL teams. But please do go on and tell us all the provenance of all 250 FVU kids.


125 FVU kids, and not one played GFR ECNL RL


On the girls side that is correct for current players.

Now there are girls who played at GFR before U13 and are now on ECNL teams. And there are girls from years ago that did it.
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