FCPS is turning the new high school purchased to fix crowding into an Aviation magnet school instead of a high school??

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Anonymous wrote:This school can’t be all things to all people with only 2000 seats. Statements are being now to try and get more support for Scenario 4 and the bond but not everyone will get what they want, and if they end up trying to expand KAA above 2000 through unplanned additions they will infuriate other people whose renovations are being deferred because KAA leapfrogged them.


The school was built to educate 1300 students--to include elementary private school students. I'm confident it could hold more. It was built to be "flexible" according to the architecture firm. With the two additional buildings, they likely could educate a few more than 2000. My guess 2200.


It was a private school with small class sizes. There is surely space for far more than 1300.
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Anonymous wrote:This school can’t be all things to all people with only 2000 seats. Statements are being now to try and get more support for Scenario 4 and the bond but not everyone will get what they want, and if they end up trying to expand KAA above 2000 through unplanned additions they will infuriate other people whose renovations are being deferred because KAA leapfrogged them.


The school was built to educate 1300 students--to include elementary private school students. I'm confident it could hold more. It was built to be "flexible" according to the architecture firm. With the two additional buildings, they likely could educate a few more than 2000. My guess 2200.
They can always bring in a modular like they did with McLean.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This school can’t be all things to all people with only 2000 seats. Statements are being now to try and get more support for Scenario 4 and the bond but not everyone will get what they want, and if they end up trying to expand KAA above 2000 through unplanned additions they will infuriate other people whose renovations are being deferred because KAA leapfrogged them.


The school was built to educate 1300 students--to include elementary private school students. I'm confident it could hold more. It was built to be "flexible" according to the architecture firm. With the two additional buildings, they likely could educate a few more than 2000. My guess 2200.
They can always bring in a modular like they did with McLean.

Yes, between Herndon’s 800 empty seats and Westfield’s soon to be 1000+, surely a modular is the only option for Western High School. I doubt all roads will lead to KAA in the proposed maps.
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Anonymous wrote:This school can’t be all things to all people with only 2000 seats. Statements are being now to try and get more support for Scenario 4 and the bond but not everyone will get what they want, and if they end up trying to expand KAA above 2000 through unplanned additions they will infuriate other people whose renovations are being deferred because KAA leapfrogged them.


The school was built to educate 1300 students--to include elementary private school students. I'm confident it could hold more. It was built to be "flexible" according to the architecture firm. With the two additional buildings, they likely could educate a few more than 2000. My guess 2200.


So you think you're smarter than the FCPS head of Facilities who has decades of construction experience and says 2000. Not your "guess" of 2200.

If you want some leftover trailers to squeeze in a few more kids, fine, but you should expect some significant backlash if there's any talk of a further addition to the three current buildings.

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Anonymous wrote:This school can’t be all things to all people with only 2000 seats. Statements are being now to try and get more support for Scenario 4 and the bond but not everyone will get what they want, and if they end up trying to expand KAA above 2000 through unplanned additions they will infuriate other people whose renovations are being deferred because KAA leapfrogged them.


The school was built to educate 1300 students--to include elementary private school students. I'm confident it could hold more. It was built to be "flexible" according to the architecture firm. With the two additional buildings, they likely could educate a few more than 2000. My guess 2200.


So you think you're smarter than the FCPS head of Facilities who has decades of construction experience and says 2000. Not your "guess" of 2200.

If you want some leftover trailers to squeeze in a few more kids, fine, but you should expect some significant backlash if there's any talk of a further addition to the three current buildings.



He said they could get them in. He also said the main building is fine for opening with 9 and 10. And, that woman on Nextdoor who keeps screaming about the purchase is dead wrong. She started claiming that he said it was cost a $100 million to make it ready. The facilities guy said that it would be $50 million max--and he expected it to be much less.

That same woman keeps screaming that we can send Chantilly kids to Herndon. I guess when you live in Great Falls that you think extremely long bus rides are a good thing.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This school can’t be all things to all people with only 2000 seats. Statements are being now to try and get more support for Scenario 4 and the bond but not everyone will get what they want, and if they end up trying to expand KAA above 2000 through unplanned additions they will infuriate other people whose renovations are being deferred because KAA leapfrogged them.


The school was built to educate 1300 students--to include elementary private school students. I'm confident it could hold more. It was built to be "flexible" according to the architecture firm. With the two additional buildings, they likely could educate a few more than 2000. My guess 2200.


So you think you're smarter than the FCPS head of Facilities who has decades of construction experience and says 2000. Not your "guess" of 2200.

If you want some leftover trailers to squeeze in a few more kids, fine, but you should expect some significant backlash if there's any talk of a further addition to the three current buildings.



He said they could get them in. He also said the main building is fine for opening with 9 and 10. And, that woman on Nextdoor who keeps screaming about the purchase is dead wrong. She started claiming that he said it was cost a $100 million to make it ready. The facilities guy said that it would be $50 million max--and he expected it to be much less.

That same woman keeps screaming that we can send Chantilly kids to Herndon. I guess when you live in Great Falls that you think extremely long bus rides are a good thing.


No one who is paying attention thinks you can send Chantilly kids to Herndon. They could have sent Chantilly kids to Westfield and Westfield kids to Herndon. Indeed, they could still end up sending some Westfield kids to Herndon.

The deal has closed, so we should make the best use of KAA for the most neighborhood kids it can accommodate, but we should not be expanding it beyond the current three buildings or relocating a modular there just because there are people who want to avoid other schools or want a shorter commute. On the other hand, if they do put some trailers there, it won't be the first time they finished a renovation/expansion and added some trailers within a year or two.
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No one who is paying attention thinks you can send Chantilly kids to Herndon. They could have sent Chantilly kids to Westfield and Westfield kids to Herndon. Indeed, they could still end up sending some Westfield kids to Herndon.


Except for the Chantilly kids south of 50, it is also a difficult bus ride to Westfield for those kids near KAA.
Melanie Meren mentioned that her constituents complained about the issue. It gets mocked here on DCUM, but the KAA area is quite separated from the rest of Westfield neighborhoods.
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No one who is paying attention thinks you can send Chantilly kids to Herndon. They could have sent Chantilly kids to Westfield and Westfield kids to Herndon. Indeed, they could still end up sending some Westfield kids to Herndon.


Except for the Chantilly kids south of 50, it is also a difficult bus ride to Westfield for those kids near KAA.
Melanie Meren mentioned that her constituents complained about the issue. It gets mocked here on DCUM, but the KAA area is quite separated from the rest of Westfield neighborhoods.


It gets mocked because people hype up the hardships (in some cases hardships they've somehow managed to endure for years) to try and get what they want. It's not just the Westfield folks who want to move to KAA.
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Anonymous wrote:
No one who is paying attention thinks you can send Chantilly kids to Herndon. They could have sent Chantilly kids to Westfield and Westfield kids to Herndon. Indeed, they could still end up sending some Westfield kids to Herndon.


Except for the Chantilly kids south of 50, it is also a difficult bus ride to Westfield for those kids near KAA.
Melanie Meren mentioned that her constituents complained about the issue. It gets mocked here on DCUM, but the KAA area is quite separated from the rest of Westfield neighborhoods.


It gets mocked because people hype up the hardships (in some cases hardships they've somehow managed to endure for years) to try and get what they want. It's not just the Westfield folks who want to move to KAA.


I consider 40 minute plus bus rides to be a hardship. That is twice a day.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
No one who is paying attention thinks you can send Chantilly kids to Herndon. They could have sent Chantilly kids to Westfield and Westfield kids to Herndon. Indeed, they could still end up sending some Westfield kids to Herndon.


Except for the Chantilly kids south of 50, it is also a difficult bus ride to Westfield for those kids near KAA.
Melanie Meren mentioned that her constituents complained about the issue. It gets mocked here on DCUM, but the KAA area is quite separated from the rest of Westfield neighborhoods.


It gets mocked because people hype up the hardships (in some cases hardships they've somehow managed to endure for years) to try and get what they want. It's not just the Westfield folks who want to move to KAA.


I consider 40 minute plus bus rides to be a hardship. That is twice a day.


It sounds more like a minor inconvenience than a hardship. But, again, it's a sliding scale. Once you catch a whiff of what you think is a better alternative, the current situation becomes unbearable.
Anonymous
Curious, and not debating here, but any Crossfield parents have an idea of what % of that ES actually has the long commutes to Oakton? I only ask because it seems like based on the boundary map there's a large portion of Crossfield on the Eastern end that's actually "relatively" close to Oakton. Any thought on if they end up entertaining splitting Crossfield ES between KAA/SLHS and Oakton? I feel like geographically if you sent ALL of Crossfield to KAA/SLHS, you'd end up with 40 minute commutes going from the Eastern end of Crossfield all the way to KAA/SLHS.
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Anonymous wrote:Curious, and not debating here, but any Crossfield parents have an idea of what % of that ES actually has the long commutes to Oakton? I only ask because it seems like based on the boundary map there's a large portion of Crossfield on the Eastern end that's actually "relatively" close to Oakton. Any thought on if they end up entertaining splitting Crossfield ES between KAA/SLHS and Oakton? I feel like geographically if you sent ALL of Crossfield to KAA/SLHS, you'd end up with 40 minute commutes going from the Eastern end of Crossfield all the way to KAA/SLHS.


The eastern edge of the Crossfield map is homes with Reston addresses. Don’t those already go to South Lakes? I don’t think they would move those homes to KAA.

Someone earlier said Reid used the term feathering. To me that suggests they will take the edges of the Chantilly, Westfield, Oakton, and South Lakes maps and combine them to make the KAA map. Not necessarily in equal proportions since Chantilly needs the most relief, plus implications for middle school have to be factored in. I doubt all of Crossfield goes to KAA but I could see the part that is western edge of the Oakton map going there, especially since multiple board members brought up long drives to Oakton. I bet Reston addresses go to South Lakes and the KAA map is mostly made up of Herndon 20171 homes.
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Anonymous wrote:Curious, and not debating here, but any Crossfield parents have an idea of what % of that ES actually has the long commutes to Oakton? I only ask because it seems like based on the boundary map there's a large portion of Crossfield on the Eastern end that's actually "relatively" close to Oakton. Any thought on if they end up entertaining splitting Crossfield ES between KAA/SLHS and Oakton? I feel like geographically if you sent ALL of Crossfield to KAA/SLHS, you'd end up with 40 minute commutes going from the Eastern end of Crossfield all the way to KAA/SLHS.


The eastern edge of the Crossfield map is homes with Reston addresses. Don’t those already go to South Lakes? I don’t think they would move those homes to KAA.

Someone earlier said Reid used the term feathering. To me that suggests they will take the edges of the Chantilly, Westfield, Oakton, and South Lakes maps and combine them to make the KAA map. Not necessarily in equal proportions since Chantilly needs the most relief, plus implications for middle school have to be factored in. I doubt all of Crossfield goes to KAA but I could see the part that is western edge of the Oakton map going there, especially since multiple board members brought up long drives to Oakton. I bet Reston addresses go to South Lakes and the KAA map is mostly made up of Herndon 20171 homes.


Crossfield has a small portion of the school based in the Fox Mill Woods neighborhood that split to go to Hughes and South Lakes. I know scenarios 2 and 3 had that community moving to Carson and Oakton to form a cohort with the rest of Crossfield students. However, they believe strongly they are a Reston community and want to stay at Hughes and South Lakes, so Scenario 4 reversed the changed. The problem is they are walking distance to Crossfield, so its hard to justify moving them to Hunter Woods where they would have to bus.
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Anonymous wrote:
No one who is paying attention thinks you can send Chantilly kids to Herndon. They could have sent Chantilly kids to Westfield and Westfield kids to Herndon. Indeed, they could still end up sending some Westfield kids to Herndon.


Except for the Chantilly kids south of 50, it is also a difficult bus ride to Westfield for those kids near KAA.
Melanie Meren mentioned that her constituents complained about the issue. It gets mocked here on DCUM, but the KAA area is quite separated from the rest of Westfield neighborhoods.


It gets mocked because people hype up the hardships (in some cases hardships they've somehow managed to endure for years) to try and get what they want. It's not just the Westfield folks who want to move to KAA.


I consider 40 minute plus bus rides to be a hardship. That is twice a day.


It sounds more like a minor inconvenience than a hardship. But, again, it's a sliding scale. Once you catch a whiff of what you think is a better alternative, the current situation becomes unbearable.


People choose where to live. If a short bus ride to high school is important, you would have lived somewhere else.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
No one who is paying attention thinks you can send Chantilly kids to Herndon. They could have sent Chantilly kids to Westfield and Westfield kids to Herndon. Indeed, they could still end up sending some Westfield kids to Herndon.


Except for the Chantilly kids south of 50, it is also a difficult bus ride to Westfield for those kids near KAA.
Melanie Meren mentioned that her constituents complained about the issue. It gets mocked here on DCUM, but the KAA area is quite separated from the rest of Westfield neighborhoods.


It gets mocked because people hype up the hardships (in some cases hardships they've somehow managed to endure for years) to try and get what they want. It's not just the Westfield folks who want to move to KAA.


I consider 40 minute plus bus rides to be a hardship. That is twice a day.


It sounds more like a minor inconvenience than a hardship. But, again, it's a sliding scale. Once you catch a whiff of what you think is a better alternative, the current situation becomes unbearable.


People choose where to live. If a short bus ride to high school is important, you would have lived somewhere else.


Having moved into my neighborhood when my kids were toddlers, the only thing I was concerned about was the elementary school being walking distance. Fortunately, it turns out that our middle school and high school are very short bus rides. But, it was not my concern when we moved.

And, our high school is not at the very top tier SES wise, but it has become more desirable since we moved here.

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