Feedback on Hearst for 2nd and K

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The OOB haters here have like, the weirdest perception of families EOTP.

I am also entertained at the idea that white gentrifiers are somehow morally inferior to those who live in gentrified areas.

You do know that black communities were deliberately removed from Ward 3 in order to create a white enclave in the city? Like a whole black community was basically bulldozed. Reno, in Tenleytown.

There is SO much wrong with some random rich white person purporting to speak on behalf of entire populations of minorities in order to "protect" them from other white people. The worst, though not surprising, part is that it's really not about the black community at all. It's about the fact that PP is jealous and resentful that other families that are too much like them are using a resource they think only they are entitled to. It's one thing to say "I don't like OOB policies because they worsen overcrowding and dilute the community feel of a neighborhood school." That's honest and valid, though a lost cause in DC. It's totally another to use minorities as a tool to push their own agenda, when we all know they wouldn't want more than a token handful of low SES brown kids in their school.

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Anonymous wrote:... I'm a Hearst parent and I have no idea what the PPs here are talking about with regard to parents being jerks to OOB students or any of this other drama.

Folks who are offered lottery spots at Hearst, come on in! It's a great school, the teachers and families we've gotten to know are down-to-earth and lovely and welcoming, and I've never heard anyone say one word about families living IB or OOB. It's fine. The kids love Hearst. The teachers love the kids. The parents are kind and normal.

I appreciate you posting this. I have been feeling apprehensive about my kids starting school after reading this thread, worried they/we will be treated differently or have a harder time making friends. I'm sure it will be fine when we get there, but it bums me out people think like this. We're all just trying to do the best we can for our kids. Anyway, your kindness matters - thank you!

I truly believe that this is just one poster replying over and over to stir up trouble. My kids have been at Hearst for more than 10 years and what this troll is describing is simply not true.

I love Hearst, and I don’t regret sending my child there for a second. The academics are excellent, and I’ve met some delightful parents and kids. I think there’s a third way here that you’re overlooking: Rather than denying that there are a (few?) parents who are strongly against OOB kids, just call them out on it (gently) when you hear them going down that road. And yes, I’m glad the OP is not letting this discourage her. There are way more decent people there than bad ones, the good people are just quieter.

I think it is OK for parents to seek answers for or disagree with the rationale behind IB/OOB school makeup and admissions, and still be individually welcoming to the families and kids that are there (whether IB or OOB)--which I imagine is the case 99.9 percent of the time. Even from self-interest, I doubt any parent is delusional to the point of wanting to foment divisions between existing families and classmates. However, like ALL else in DCPS there are no sacred cows--a full discussion about IB/OOB and the school's trajectory--have at it!

Well said. It’s been hard to have an honest conversation on this issue because the white gentrifiers have no shame about playing the race card to enable continuation of a system that allows them to flee the very populations they claim to want to protect. Every morning they walk past the BLM signs in their yards EOTP and drive their kids to WOTP schools. Ironically, the vast majority of diversity in Ward 3 schools comes from IB kids from embassies and families living in the neighborhood and apartments along Connecticut Avenue. It’s NOT from EOTP. All these kids are warmly embraced as they should be. The gentrifiers know their game is unsustainable and are fighting like they’re trying to escape from Kabul.

I'm going to respond to this because I think you genuinely believe what you're saying. We live EOTP and I work and live with many multi-generational DC residents. It is a false premise that everyone in EOTP neighborhoods except white gentrifiers sends their kids to their neighborhood school. I have literally, and I mean literally, been called a white savior by a black friend when I expressed conflict about not sending my child to our in-bound. Generations of middle class black DC residents, and the current generation of immigrant families, are playing the lottery for charters or OOB spots or have their kids in parochial schools. Come to my neighborhood and you will see graduation yard signs from ALL over. I can give you second hand accounts of how Wilson is for black students, what Latin was like in the first few years, and which Catholic schools are light or heavy handed on religion because when I ask "oh you're from DC, where did you go to school?", those are the conversations that follow. And my kids are at an EOTP Title 1 school. Not our in-bounds, but another that is <10% white and majority at-risk. And it's a good school for us. But if/when we get an OOB seat with Wilson feeder rights, all of those people you're claiming to be concerned about will be congratulating me and giving me tips on the commute across the park. So frankly when you pontificate about what "those" populations think about white gentrifiers, I know you just don't actually know any of "those" people and are really just fussed that someone got what you have by luck and that feels unfair to you.

It feels unfair to me that any school that is already by definition overcrowded since it requires trailers is required to take OOB students in the middle of a pandemic which limits social distance for everyone, especially at the elementary level with a 100% unvaccinated population. Even worse, many OOB students come from under enrolled schools with significantly greater ability for spacing. It’s completely illogical from a public health perspective, but 1980s social justice concerns obviously trump 2021 public health concerns. This does not bode well for anyone. We will all suffer. Enjoy your commute across the park, while it lasts, before we’re all virtual again.

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Anonymous wrote:... I'm a Hearst parent and I have no idea what the PPs here are talking about with regard to parents being jerks to OOB students or any of this other drama.

Folks who are offered lottery spots at Hearst, come on in! It's a great school, the teachers and families we've gotten to know are down-to-earth and lovely and welcoming, and I've never heard anyone say one word about families living IB or OOB. It's fine. The kids love Hearst. The teachers love the kids. The parents are kind and normal.

I appreciate you posting this. I have been feeling apprehensive about my kids starting school after reading this thread, worried they/we will be treated differently or have a harder time making friends. I'm sure it will be fine when we get there, but it bums me out people think like this. We're all just trying to do the best we can for our kids. Anyway, your kindness matters - thank you!

I truly believe that this is just one poster replying over and over to stir up trouble. My kids have been at Hearst for more than 10 years and what this troll is describing is simply not true.

I love Hearst, and I don’t regret sending my child there for a second. The academics are excellent, and I’ve met some delightful parents and kids. I think there’s a third way here that you’re overlooking: Rather than denying that there are a (few?) parents who are strongly against OOB kids, just call them out on it (gently) when you hear them going down that road. And yes, I’m glad the OP is not letting this discourage her. There are way more decent people there than bad ones, the good people are just quieter.

I think it is OK for parents to seek answers for or disagree with the rationale behind IB/OOB school makeup and admissions, and still be individually welcoming to the families and kids that are there (whether IB or OOB)--which I imagine is the case 99.9 percent of the time. Even from self-interest, I doubt any parent is delusional to the point of wanting to foment divisions between existing families and classmates. However, like ALL else in DCPS there are no sacred cows--a full discussion about IB/OOB and the school's trajectory--have at it!

Well said. It’s been hard to have an honest conversation on this issue because the white gentrifiers have no shame about playing the race card to enable continuation of a system that allows them to flee the very populations they claim to want to protect. Every morning they walk past the BLM signs in their yards EOTP and drive their kids to WOTP schools. Ironically, the vast majority of diversity in Ward 3 schools comes from IB kids from embassies and families living in the neighborhood and apartments along Connecticut Avenue. It’s NOT from EOTP. All these kids are warmly embraced as they should be. The gentrifiers know their game is unsustainable and are fighting like they’re trying to escape from Kabul.

I'm going to respond to this because I think you genuinely believe what you're saying. We live EOTP and I work and live with many multi-generational DC residents. It is a false premise that everyone in EOTP neighborhoods except white gentrifiers sends their kids to their neighborhood school. I have literally, and I mean literally, been called a white savior by a black friend when I expressed conflict about not sending my child to our in-bound. Generations of middle class black DC residents, and the current generation of immigrant families, are playing the lottery for charters or OOB spots or have their kids in parochial schools. Come to my neighborhood and you will see graduation yard signs from ALL over. I can give you second hand accounts of how Wilson is for black students, what Latin was like in the first few years, and which Catholic schools are light or heavy handed on religion because when I ask "oh you're from DC, where did you go to school?", those are the conversations that follow. And my kids are at an EOTP Title 1 school. Not our in-bounds, but another that is <10% white and majority at-risk. And it's a good school for us. But if/when we get an OOB seat with Wilson feeder rights, all of those people you're claiming to be concerned about will be congratulating me and giving me tips on the commute across the park. So frankly when you pontificate about what "those" populations think about white gentrifiers, I know you just don't actually know any of "those" people and are really just fussed that someone got what you have by luck and that feels unfair to you.

It feels unfair to me that any school that is already by definition overcrowded since it requires trailers is required to take OOB students in the middle of a pandemic which limits social distance for everyone, especially at the elementary level with a 100% unvaccinated population. Even worse, many OOB students come from under enrolled schools with significantly greater ability for spacing. It’s completely illogical from a public health perspective, but 1980s social justice concerns obviously trump 2021 public health concerns. This does not bode well for anyone. We will all suffer. Enjoy your commute across the park, while it lasts, before we’re all virtual again.

Now that's a valid concern. Don't poison it by trying to claim it has anything to do with race and

[Anonymous]

Sorry, hit send accidentally....

Don't poison it by trying to claim it has anything to do with race and start throwing around false concern about EOTP schools and gentrifiers. Those EOTP schools are underenrolled because the neighborhood does not have confidence in them - black, white, gentrifiers, long time residents. If you want to get OOB kids out of your school, then advocate for policies that will improve EOTP schools, especially at the middle school level. If schools and feeder schools are good, people will HAPPILY choose them. But telling people to just rent across the park (which doesn't solve overcrowding anyways?) or send their kids to underperforming schools does nothing to fix YOUR problem, which is overcrowded schools.

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Anonymous wrote:... I'm a Hearst parent and I have no idea what the PPs here are talking about with regard to parents being jerks to OOB students or any of this other drama.

Folks who are offered lottery spots at Hearst, come on in! It's a great school, the teachers and families we've gotten to know are down-to-earth and lovely and welcoming, and I've never heard anyone say one word about families living IB or OOB. It's fine. The kids love Hearst. The teachers love the kids. The parents are kind and normal.

I appreciate you posting this. I have been feeling apprehensive about my kids starting school after reading this thread, worried they/we will be treated differently or have a harder time making friends. I'm sure it will be fine when we get there, but it bums me out people think like this. We're all just trying to do the best we can for our kids. Anyway, your kindness matters - thank you!

I truly believe that this is just one poster replying over and over to stir up trouble. My kids have been at Hearst for more than 10 years and what this troll is describing is simply not true.

I love Hearst, and I don’t regret sending my child there for a second. The academics are excellent, and I’ve met some delightful parents and kids. I think there’s a third way here that you’re overlooking: Rather than denying that there are a (few?) parents who are strongly against OOB kids, just call them out on it (gently) when you hear them going down that road. And yes, I’m glad the OP is not letting this discourage her. There are way more decent people there than bad ones, the good people are just quieter.

I think it is OK for parents to seek answers for or disagree with the rationale behind IB/OOB school makeup and admissions, and still be individually welcoming to the families and kids that are there (whether IB or OOB)--which I imagine is the case 99.9 percent of the time. Even from self-interest, I doubt any parent is delusional to the point of wanting to foment divisions between existing families and classmates. However, like ALL else in DCPS there are no sacred cows--a full discussion about IB/OOB and the school's trajectory--have at it!

Well said. It’s been hard to have an honest conversation on this issue because the white gentrifiers have no shame about playing the race card to enable continuation of a system that allows them to flee the very populations they claim to want to protect. Every morning they walk past the BLM signs in their yards EOTP and drive their kids to WOTP schools. Ironically, the vast majority of diversity in Ward 3 schools comes from IB kids from embassies and families living in the neighborhood and apartments along Connecticut Avenue. It’s NOT from EOTP. All these kids are warmly embraced as they should be. The gentrifiers know their game is unsustainable and are fighting like they’re trying to escape from Kabul.

I'm going to respond to this because I think you genuinely believe what you're saying. We live EOTP and I work and live with many multi-generational DC residents. It is a false premise that everyone in EOTP neighborhoods except white gentrifiers sends their kids to their neighborhood school. I have literally, and I mean literally, been called a white savior by a black friend when I expressed conflict about not sending my child to our in-bound. Generations of middle class black DC residents, and the current generation of immigrant families, are playing the lottery for charters or OOB spots or have their kids in parochial schools. Come to my neighborhood and you will see graduation yard signs from ALL over. I can give you second hand accounts of how Wilson is for black students, what Latin was like in the first few years, and which Catholic schools are light or heavy handed on religion because when I ask "oh you're from DC, where did you go to school?", those are the conversations that follow. And my kids are at an EOTP Title 1 school. Not our in-bounds, but another that is <10% white and majority at-risk. And it's a good school for us. But if/when we get an OOB seat with Wilson feeder rights, all of those people you're claiming to be concerned about will be congratulating me and giving me tips on the commute across the park. So frankly when you pontificate about what "those" populations think about white gentrifiers, I know you just don't actually know any of "those" people and are really just fussed that someone got what you have by luck and that feels unfair to you.

It feels unfair to me that any school that is already by definition overcrowded since it requires trailers is required to take OOB students in the middle of a pandemic which limits social distance for everyone, especially at the elementary level with a 100% unvaccinated population. Even worse, many OOB students come from under enrolled schools with significantly greater ability for spacing. It’s completely illogical from a public health perspective, but 1980s social justice concerns obviously trump 2021 public health concerns. This does not bode well for anyone. We will all suffer. Enjoy your commute across the park, while it lasts, before we’re all virtual again.

Now that's a valid concern. Don't poison it by trying to claim it has anything to do with race and

Correct. And anyone who enables this continued overcrowding of WOTP schools during this pandemic has lost all moral authority to criticize Trump, DeSantis, the red states, Tucker, and the rest of them. Take one look at the Deal cafeteria next week and tell us how this is any better than the policies from Republican crazies. It might actually be worse.

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Anonymous wrote:... I'm a Hearst parent and I have no idea what the PPs here are talking about with regard to parents being jerks to OOB students or any of this other drama.

Folks who are offered lottery spots at Hearst, come on in! It's a great school, the teachers and families we've gotten to know are down-to-earth and lovely and welcoming, and I've never heard anyone say one word about families living IB or OOB. It's fine. The kids love Hearst. The teachers love the kids. The parents are kind and normal.

I appreciate you posting this. I have been feeling apprehensive about my kids starting school after reading this thread, worried they/we will be treated differently or have a harder time making friends. I'm sure it will be fine when we get there, but it bums me out people think like this. We're all just trying to do the best we can for our kids. Anyway, your kindness matters - thank you!

I truly believe that this is just one poster replying over and over to stir up trouble. My kids have been at Hearst for more than 10 years and what this troll is describing is simply not true.

I love Hearst, and I don’t regret sending my child there for a second. The academics are excellent, and I’ve met some delightful parents and kids. I think there’s a third way here that you’re overlooking: Rather than denying that there are a (few?) parents who are strongly against OOB kids, just call them out on it (gently) when you hear them going down that road. And yes, I’m glad the OP is not letting this discourage her. There are way more decent people there than bad ones, the good people are just quieter.

I think it is OK for parents to seek answers for or disagree with the rationale behind IB/OOB school makeup and admissions, and still be individually welcoming to the families and kids that are there (whether IB or OOB)--which I imagine is the case 99.9 percent of the time. Even from self-interest, I doubt any parent is delusional to the point of wanting to foment divisions between existing families and classmates. However, like ALL else in DCPS there are no sacred cows--a full discussion about IB/OOB and the school's trajectory--have at it!

Well said. It’s been hard to have an honest conversation on this issue because the white gentrifiers have no shame about playing the race card to enable continuation of a system that allows them to flee the very populations they claim to want to protect. Every morning they walk past the BLM signs in their yards EOTP and drive their kids to WOTP schools. Ironically, the vast majority of diversity in Ward 3 schools comes from IB kids from embassies and families living in the neighborhood and apartments along Connecticut Avenue. It’s NOT from EOTP. All these kids are warmly embraced as they should be. The gentrifiers know their game is unsustainable and are fighting like they’re trying to escape from Kabul.

I'm going to respond to this because I think you genuinely believe what you're saying. We live EOTP and I work and live with many multi-generational DC residents. It is a false premise that everyone in EOTP neighborhoods except white gentrifiers sends their kids to their neighborhood school. I have literally, and I mean literally, been called a white savior by a black friend when I expressed conflict about not sending my child to our in-bound. Generations of middle class black DC residents, and the current generation of immigrant families, are playing the lottery for charters or OOB spots or have their kids in parochial schools. Come to my neighborhood and you will see graduation yard signs from ALL over. I can give you second hand accounts of how Wilson is for black students, what Latin was like in the first few years, and which Catholic schools are light or heavy handed on religion because when I ask "oh you're from DC, where did you go to school?", those are the conversations that follow. And my kids are at an EOTP Title 1 school. Not our in-bounds, but another that is <10% white and majority at-risk. And it's a good school for us. But if/when we get an OOB seat with Wilson feeder rights, all of those people you're claiming to be concerned about will be congratulating me and giving me tips on the commute across the park. So frankly when you pontificate about what "those" populations think about white gentrifiers, I know you just don't actually know any of "those" people and are really just fussed that someone got what you have by luck and that feels unfair to you.

It feels unfair to me that any school that is already by definition overcrowded since it requires trailers is required to take OOB students in the middle of a pandemic which limits social distance for everyone, especially at the elementary level with a 100% unvaccinated population. Even worse, many OOB students come from under enrolled schools with significantly greater ability for spacing. It’s completely illogical from a public health perspective, but 1980s social justice concerns obviously trump 2021 public health concerns. This does not bode well for anyone. We will all suffer. Enjoy your commute across the park, while it lasts, before we’re all virtual again.

Now that's a valid concern. Don't poison it by trying to claim it has anything to do with race and

Correct. And anyone who enables this continued overcrowding of WOTP schools during this pandemic has lost all moral authority to criticize Trump, DeSantis, the red states, Tucker, and the rest of them. Take one look at the Deal cafeteria next week and tell us how this is any better than the policies from Republican crazies. It might actually be worse.

Please don't forget that you are more than welcome to enroll your children in those under enrolled EOTP schools. One could even argue that you have a moral obligation to do so since you're so concerned with the safety of the children.

[Anonymous]

Hey Ward 3 angries: you could do something with all of your resources to help other schools improve, since you're the ones mad about it.

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Anonymous wrote:... I'm a Hearst parent and I have no idea what the PPs here are talking about with regard to parents being jerks to OOB students or any of this other drama.

Folks who are offered lottery spots at Hearst, come on in! It's a great school, the teachers and families we've gotten to know are down-to-earth and lovely and welcoming, and I've never heard anyone say one word about families living IB or OOB. It's fine. The kids love Hearst. The teachers love the kids. The parents are kind and normal.

I appreciate you posting this. I have been feeling apprehensive about my kids starting school after reading this thread, worried they/we will be treated differently or have a harder time making friends. I'm sure it will be fine when we get there, but it bums me out people think like this. We're all just trying to do the best we can for our kids. Anyway, your kindness matters - thank you!

I truly believe that this is just one poster replying over and over to stir up trouble. My kids have been at Hearst for more than 10 years and what this troll is describing is simply not true.

I love Hearst, and I don’t regret sending my child there for a second. The academics are excellent, and I’ve met some delightful parents and kids. I think there’s a third way here that you’re overlooking: Rather than denying that there are a (few?) parents who are strongly against OOB kids, just call them out on it (gently) when you hear them going down that road. And yes, I’m glad the OP is not letting this discourage her. There are way more decent people there than bad ones, the good people are just quieter.

I think it is OK for parents to seek answers for or disagree with the rationale behind IB/OOB school makeup and admissions, and still be individually welcoming to the families and kids that are there (whether IB or OOB)--which I imagine is the case 99.9 percent of the time. Even from self-interest, I doubt any parent is delusional to the point of wanting to foment divisions between existing families and classmates. However, like ALL else in DCPS there are no sacred cows--a full discussion about IB/OOB and the school's trajectory--have at it!

Well said. It’s been hard to have an honest conversation on this issue because the white gentrifiers have no shame about playing the race card to enable continuation of a system that allows them to flee the very populations they claim to want to protect. Every morning they walk past the BLM signs in their yards EOTP and drive their kids to WOTP schools. Ironically, the vast majority of diversity in Ward 3 schools comes from IB kids from embassies and families living in the neighborhood and apartments along Connecticut Avenue. It’s NOT from EOTP. All these kids are warmly embraced as they should be. The gentrifiers know their game is unsustainable and are fighting like they’re trying to escape from Kabul.

I'm going to respond to this because I think you genuinely believe what you're saying. We live EOTP and I work and live with many multi-generational DC residents. It is a false premise that everyone in EOTP neighborhoods except white gentrifiers sends their kids to their neighborhood school. I have literally, and I mean literally, been called a white savior by a black friend when I expressed conflict about not sending my child to our in-bound. Generations of middle class black DC residents, and the current generation of immigrant families, are playing the lottery for charters or OOB spots or have their kids in parochial schools. Come to my neighborhood and you will see graduation yard signs from ALL over. I can give you second hand accounts of how Wilson is for black students, what Latin was like in the first few years, and which Catholic schools are light or heavy handed on religion because when I ask "oh you're from DC, where did you go to school?", those are the conversations that follow. And my kids are at an EOTP Title 1 school. Not our in-bounds, but another that is <10% white and majority at-risk. And it's a good school for us. But if/when we get an OOB seat with Wilson feeder rights, all of those people you're claiming to be concerned about will be congratulating me and giving me tips on the commute across the park. So frankly when you pontificate about what "those" populations think about white gentrifiers, I know you just don't actually know any of "those" people and are really just fussed that someone got what you have by luck and that feels unfair to you.

It feels unfair to me that any school that is already by definition overcrowded since it requires trailers is required to take OOB students in the middle of a pandemic which limits social distance for everyone, especially at the elementary level with a 100% unvaccinated population. Even worse, many OOB students come from under enrolled schools with significantly greater ability for spacing. It’s completely illogical from a public health perspective, but 1980s social justice concerns obviously trump 2021 public health concerns. This does not bode well for anyone. We will all suffer. Enjoy your commute across the park, while it lasts, before we’re all virtual again.

Now that's a valid concern. Don't poison it by trying to claim it has anything to do with race and

Correct. And anyone who enables this continued overcrowding of WOTP schools during this pandemic has lost all moral authority to criticize Trump, DeSantis, the red states, Tucker, and the rest of them. Take one look at the Deal cafeteria next week and tell us how this is any better than the policies from Republican crazies. It might actually be worse.

Please don't forget that you are more than welcome to enroll your children in those under enrolled EOTP schools. One could even argue that you have a moral obligation to do so since you're so concerned with the safety of the children.

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Anonymous wrote:... I'm a Hearst parent and I have no idea what the PPs here are talking about with regard to parents being jerks to OOB students or any of this other drama.

Folks who are offered lottery spots at Hearst, come on in! It's a great school, the teachers and families we've gotten to know are down-to-earth and lovely and welcoming, and I've never heard anyone say one word about families living IB or OOB. It's fine. The kids love Hearst. The teachers love the kids. The parents are kind and normal.

I appreciate you posting this. I have been feeling apprehensive about my kids starting school after reading this thread, worried they/we will be treated differently or have a harder time making friends. I'm sure it will be fine when we get there, but it bums me out people think like this. We're all just trying to do the best we can for our kids. Anyway, your kindness matters - thank you!

I truly believe that this is just one poster replying over and over to stir up trouble. My kids have been at Hearst for more than 10 years and what this troll is describing is simply not true.

I love Hearst, and I don’t regret sending my child there for a second. The academics are excellent, and I’ve met some delightful parents and kids. I think there’s a third way here that you’re overlooking: Rather than denying that there are a (few?) parents who are strongly against OOB kids, just call them out on it (gently) when you hear them going down that road. And yes, I’m glad the OP is not letting this discourage her. There are way more decent people there than bad ones, the good people are just quieter.

I think it is OK for parents to seek answers for or disagree with the rationale behind IB/OOB school makeup and admissions, and still be individually welcoming to the families and kids that are there (whether IB or OOB)--which I imagine is the case 99.9 percent of the time. Even from self-interest, I doubt any parent is delusional to the point of wanting to foment divisions between existing families and classmates. However, like ALL else in DCPS there are no sacred cows--a full discussion about IB/OOB and the school's trajectory--have at it!

Well said. It’s been hard to have an honest conversation on this issue because the white gentrifiers have no shame about playing the race card to enable continuation of a system that allows them to flee the very populations they claim to want to protect. Every morning they walk past the BLM signs in their yards EOTP and drive their kids to WOTP schools. Ironically, the vast majority of diversity in Ward 3 schools comes from IB kids from embassies and families living in the neighborhood and apartments along Connecticut Avenue. It’s NOT from EOTP. All these kids are warmly embraced as they should be. The gentrifiers know their game is unsustainable and are fighting like they’re trying to escape from Kabul.

I'm going to respond to this because I think you genuinely believe what you're saying. We live EOTP and I work and live with many multi-generational DC residents. It is a false premise that everyone in EOTP neighborhoods except white gentrifiers sends their kids to their neighborhood school. I have literally, and I mean literally, been called a white savior by a black friend when I expressed conflict about not sending my child to our in-bound. Generations of middle class black DC residents, and the current generation of immigrant families, are playing the lottery for charters or OOB spots or have their kids in parochial schools. Come to my neighborhood and you will see graduation yard signs from ALL over. I can give you second hand accounts of how Wilson is for black students, what Latin was like in the first few years, and which Catholic schools are light or heavy handed on religion because when I ask "oh you're from DC, where did you go to school?", those are the conversations that follow. And my kids are at an EOTP Title 1 school. Not our in-bounds, but another that is <10% white and majority at-risk. And it's a good school for us. But if/when we get an OOB seat with Wilson feeder rights, all of those people you're claiming to be concerned about will be congratulating me and giving me tips on the commute across the park. So frankly when you pontificate about what "those" populations think about white gentrifiers, I know you just don't actually know any of "those" people and are really just fussed that someone got what you have by luck and that feels unfair to you.

It feels unfair to me that any school that is already by definition overcrowded since it requires trailers is required to take OOB students in the middle of a pandemic which limits social distance for everyone, especially at the elementary level with a 100% unvaccinated population. Even worse, many OOB students come from under enrolled schools with significantly greater ability for spacing. It’s completely illogical from a public health perspective, but 1980s social justice concerns obviously trump 2021 public health concerns. This does not bode well for anyone. We will all suffer. Enjoy your commute across the park, while it lasts, before we’re all virtual again.

Now that's a valid concern. Don't poison it by trying to claim it has anything to do with race and

Correct. And anyone who enables this continued overcrowding of WOTP schools during this pandemic has lost all moral authority to criticize Trump, DeSantis, the red states, Tucker, and the rest of them. Take one look at the Deal cafeteria next week and tell us how this is any better than the policies from Republican crazies. It might actually be worse.

Please don't forget that you are more than welcome to enroll your children in those under enrolled EOTP schools. One could even argue that you have a moral obligation to do so since you're so concerned with the safety of the children.

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Why would we bother? You’d follow us there too.

[Anonymous]

This is like West Side Story up in here!

[Anonymous]

Please don't forget that you are more than welcome to enroll your children in those under enrolled EOTP schools. One could even argue that you have a moral obligation to do so since you're so concerned with the safety of the children.


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Why would we bother? You’d follow us there too.

Ha! This is the crux of it.

You guys reject the school at the end of your block and travel to the school on my WOTP block because it's "better." It's "better" because there are a critical mass of my neighbors here. And when we:

move to another district*
enroll in private*
start commuting to a DCPS that's EOTP*

the magic sauce is diluted. See, e.g., 1970 to 2005.

Then you'll really be stuck, won't you?


* actual suggestions made on this very thread to anyone who lives in Ward 3 and laments severely overcrowded public schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Please don't forget that you are more than welcome to enroll your children in those under enrolled EOTP schools. One could even argue that you have a moral obligation to do so since you're so concerned with the safety of the children.


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Why would we bother? You’d follow us there too.

Ha! This is the crux of it.

You guys reject the school at the end of your block and travel to the school on my WOTP block because it's "better." It's "better" because there are a critical mass of my neighbors here. And when we:

move to another district*
enroll in private*
start commuting to a DCPS that's EOTP*

the magic sauce is diluted. See, e.g., 1970 to 2005.

Then you'll really be stuck, won't you?


* actual suggestions made on this very thread to anyone who lives in Ward 3 and laments severely overcrowded public schools

Why do you think you deserve better schools?

[Anonymous]

Man this thread is amazing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Man this thread is amazing.

You should have seen the crazy racist stuff from the unhinged ward 3 mom

[Anonymous]

It’s a good thing OOB students commuted to some of the West of the Park schools long ago. Those schools were packed and kept open with OOB students while Former Chancellor Rhee under former Mayor Fenty closed schools across the city. Now OOB students are talked about. OOB students are all races (including White), ethnicities, and incomes (including not so wealthy Whites). Some OOB families mirror some in West of the Park in terms of income and educational attainment. In any case, it is often a strong determined family willing to venture to schools out of their neighborhood. Families just want the best for their kids and want to get along in this great diverse District of Columbia. Some angry parents are faux rich and wannabes and their language colors their insecurities.