Would you let your child study liberal arts?

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Anonymous wrote:The liberal arts crowd sure is worked up! So many of these anecdotal stories are pretty much meaningless. My college dropout neighbor makes over 500k in pharma sales. You should just get a GED and make big bucks in pharma sales!

When people goof on liberal arts degrees, they aren't talking about someone who uses their liberal arts degree to get into law school. They are talking about someone who majors in something useless like sociology.

Sociology isn’t useless. I work as an attorney for a federal agency and most days use my sociology degree more than my English degree or even my law degree.

You make decent money because you have a law degree and work as a lawyer. Majors like psychology or sociology are a joke, especially now that college can easily cost well over 100k. The classes are pretty much all the same. You have some nutty professor rambling on about stuff that is borderline insane and has no relevance to the real world.

DP here. You seem to have disdain for the inherent value of education and how it prepares one for varied success. You not only express that disdain, you demonstrate it.

That depends on your chosen career. A college degree absolutely makes you more marketable and will likely create opportunities that don't exist without a degree. But most majors don't even come close to giving you the skills you need to do a particular job. I probably learned more from working crappy jobs than I did reading books and writing papers. You are literally doing the exact same thing over and over again for four years. What a bore.

Your anti-intellectual position is consistent. But what you learned in college may not be the same as what others learn. And this is me responding kindly.

I'm anti-intellectual because I'm a realist and decided to study in a field with a relatively high starting salary?

What you learned doesn't matter because it doesn't mean that you have a marketable skill. And trust me, the market has determined that a 4 year degree in sociology or psychology is one step above burger flipper at McDonalds.

No, you are anti-intellectual because you literally disdain the benefit of “reading books and writing papers”.

Many liberal arts majors choose such majors since those majors have many courses that do not have any tests and the final grades are dependent on papers and essays that can be purchased on line. These papers are customized to ordering customers and are relatively inexpensive. These students can graduate without taking any tests or actually writing any of the required papers themselves. Such is not possible for STEM courses or majors.

This was absolutely not the case when I did my BA in Comparative Literature at Harvard (with Language Citation in Latin!). You have very little understanding of how this kind of course is implemented, and you don't appear to grasp the idea that professors can recognise when a student submits work that is not her own.

Perhaps you attended a sub par university at which students throng together in huge classes so large that the professors cannot actually communicate properly with the students and teach? In that case, I suppose it is possible that students may purchase and submit compositions with no penalty, but I would imagine even your STEM courses are inferior at such an institution. Your REAL issue, then, is with "allowing" one's child to study liberal arts at the kind of inferior school to which you and your child were admitted.

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Anonymous wrote:The liberal arts crowd sure is worked up! So many of these anecdotal stories are pretty much meaningless. My college dropout neighbor makes over 500k in pharma sales. You should just get a GED and make big bucks in pharma sales!

When people goof on liberal arts degrees, they aren't talking about someone who uses their liberal arts degree to get into law school. They are talking about someone who majors in something useless like sociology.

Sociology isn’t useless. I work as an attorney for a federal agency and most days use my sociology degree more than my English degree or even my law degree.

You make decent money because you have a law degree and work as a lawyer. Majors like psychology or sociology are a joke, especially now that college can easily cost well over 100k. The classes are pretty much all the same. You have some nutty professor rambling on about stuff that is borderline insane and has no relevance to the real world.

DP here. You seem to have disdain for the inherent value of education and how it prepares one for varied success. You not only express that disdain, you demonstrate it.

That depends on your chosen career. A college degree absolutely makes you more marketable and will likely create opportunities that don't exist without a degree. But most majors don't even come close to giving you the skills you need to do a particular job. I probably learned more from working crappy jobs than I did reading books and writing papers. You are literally doing the exact same thing over and over again for four years. What a bore.

Your anti-intellectual position is consistent. But what you learned in college may not be the same as what others learn. And this is me responding kindly.

I'm anti-intellectual because I'm a realist and decided to study in a field with a relatively high starting salary?

What you learned doesn't matter because it doesn't mean that you have a marketable skill. And trust me, the market has determined that a 4 year degree in sociology or psychology is one step above burger flipper at McDonalds.

No, you are anti-intellectual because you literally disdain the benefit of “reading books and writing papers”.

Many liberal arts majors choose such majors since those majors have many courses that do not have any tests and the final grades are dependent on papers and essays that can be purchased on line. These papers are customized to ordering customers and are relatively inexpensive. These students can graduate without taking any tests or actually writing any of the required papers themselves. Such is not possible for STEM courses or majors.

This was absolutely not the case when I did my BA in Comparative Literature at Harvard (with Language Citation in Latin!). You have very little understanding of how this kind of course is implemented, and you don't appear to grasp the idea that professors can recognise when a student submits work that is not her own.

Perhaps you attended a sub par university at which students throng together in huge classes so large that the professors cannot actually communicate properly with the students and teach? In that case, I suppose it is possible that students may purchase and submit compositions with no penalty, but I would imagine even your STEM courses are inferior at such an institution. Your REAL issue, then, is with "allowing" one's child to study liberal arts at the kind of inferior school to which you and your child were admitted.

You can’t handle the truth.

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Anonymous wrote:The liberal arts crowd sure is worked up! So many of these anecdotal stories are pretty much meaningless. My college dropout neighbor makes over 500k in pharma sales. You should just get a GED and make big bucks in pharma sales!

When people goof on liberal arts degrees, they aren't talking about someone who uses their liberal arts degree to get into law school. They are talking about someone who majors in something useless like sociology.

Sociology isn’t useless. I work as an attorney for a federal agency and most days use my sociology degree more than my English degree or even my law degree.

You make decent money because you have a law degree and work as a lawyer. Majors like psychology or sociology are a joke, especially now that college can easily cost well over 100k. The classes are pretty much all the same. You have some nutty professor rambling on about stuff that is borderline insane and has no relevance to the real world.

DP here. You seem to have disdain for the inherent value of education and how it prepares one for varied success. You not only express that disdain, you demonstrate it.

That depends on your chosen career. A college degree absolutely makes you more marketable and will likely create opportunities that don't exist without a degree. But most majors don't even come close to giving you the skills you need to do a particular job. I probably learned more from working crappy jobs than I did reading books and writing papers. You are literally doing the exact same thing over and over again for four years. What a bore.

Your anti-intellectual position is consistent. But what you learned in college may not be the same as what others learn. And this is me responding kindly.

I'm anti-intellectual because I'm a realist and decided to study in a field with a relatively high starting salary?

What you learned doesn't matter because it doesn't mean that you have a marketable skill. And trust me, the market has determined that a 4 year degree in sociology or psychology is one step above burger flipper at McDonalds.

No, you are anti-intellectual because you literally disdain the benefit of “reading books and writing papers”.

Many liberal arts majors choose such majors since those majors have many courses that do not have any tests and the final grades are dependent on papers and essays that can be purchased on line. These papers are customized to ordering customers and are relatively inexpensive. These students can graduate without taking any tests or actually writing any of the required papers themselves. Such is not possible for STEM courses or majors.

This was absolutely not the case when I did my BA in Comparative Literature at Harvard (with Language Citation in Latin!). You have very little understanding of how this kind of course is implemented, and you don't appear to grasp the idea that professors can recognise when a student submits work that is not her own.

Perhaps you attended a sub par university at which students throng together in huge classes so large that the professors cannot actually communicate properly with the students and teach? In that case, I suppose it is possible that students may purchase and submit compositions with no penalty, but I would imagine even your STEM courses are inferior at such an institution. Your REAL issue, then, is with "allowing" one's child to study liberal arts at the kind of inferior school to which you and your child were admitted.

Most professors are too lazy to want to do anything even if they have clear evidence of cheating. They just do not want the extra hassle and do not want to get involved in time consuming process. Hence the proliferation of cheating.

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Anonymous wrote:The liberal arts crowd sure is worked up! So many of these anecdotal stories are pretty much meaningless. My college dropout neighbor makes over 500k in pharma sales. You should just get a GED and make big bucks in pharma sales!

When people goof on liberal arts degrees, they aren't talking about someone who uses their liberal arts degree to get into law school. They are talking about someone who majors in something useless like sociology.

Sociology isn’t useless. I work as an attorney for a federal agency and most days use my sociology degree more than my English degree or even my law degree.

You make decent money because you have a law degree and work as a lawyer. Majors like psychology or sociology are a joke, especially now that college can easily cost well over 100k. The classes are pretty much all the same. You have some nutty professor rambling on about stuff that is borderline insane and has no relevance to the real world.

DP here. You seem to have disdain for the inherent value of education and how it prepares one for varied success. You not only express that disdain, you demonstrate it.

That depends on your chosen career. A college degree absolutely makes you more marketable and will likely create opportunities that don't exist without a degree. But most majors don't even come close to giving you the skills you need to do a particular job. I probably learned more from working crappy jobs than I did reading books and writing papers. You are literally doing the exact same thing over and over again for four years. What a bore.

Your anti-intellectual position is consistent. But what you learned in college may not be the same as what others learn. And this is me responding kindly.

I'm anti-intellectual because I'm a realist and decided to study in a field with a relatively high starting salary?

What you learned doesn't matter because it doesn't mean that you have a marketable skill. And trust me, the market has determined that a 4 year degree in sociology or psychology is one step above burger flipper at McDonalds.

No, you are anti-intellectual because you literally disdain the benefit of “reading books and writing papers”.

Many liberal arts majors choose such majors since those majors have many courses that do not have any tests and the final grades are dependent on papers and essays that can be purchased on line. These papers are customized to ordering customers and are relatively inexpensive. These students can graduate without taking any tests or actually writing any of the required papers themselves. Such is not possible for STEM courses or majors.

This was absolutely not the case when I did my BA in Comparative Literature at Harvard (with Language Citation in Latin!). You have very little understanding of how this kind of course is implemented, and you don't appear to grasp the idea that professors can recognise when a student submits work that is not her own.

Perhaps you attended a sub par university at which students throng together in huge classes so large that the professors cannot actually communicate properly with the students and teach? In that case, I suppose it is possible that students may purchase and submit compositions with no penalty, but I would imagine even your STEM courses are inferior at such an institution. Your REAL issue, then, is with "allowing" one's child to study liberal arts at the kind of inferior school to which you and your child were admitted.

Most professors are too lazy to want to do anything even if they have clear evidence of cheating. They just do not want the extra hassle and do not want to get involved in time consuming process. Hence the proliferation of cheating.

Nearly all professors now use software that they run all the papers through--no work required--it's built into the learning management system. This captures a lot of purchased papers that often have regurgitated sections--you get a score of how much is taken from other sources. These software get better all the time as each paper submitted adds to the database. Profs in writing intensive courses also require the papers to be done in and discussed in steps (more for learning, but this also prevents cheating). Doesn't solve all cheating issues, but cuts down quite a bit.

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Anonymous wrote:The liberal arts crowd sure is worked up! So many of these anecdotal stories are pretty much meaningless. My college dropout neighbor makes over 500k in pharma sales. You should just get a GED and make big bucks in pharma sales!

When people goof on liberal arts degrees, they aren't talking about someone who uses their liberal arts degree to get into law school. They are talking about someone who majors in something useless like sociology.

Sociology isn’t useless. I work as an attorney for a federal agency and most days use my sociology degree more than my English degree or even my law degree.

You make decent money because you have a law degree and work as a lawyer. Majors like psychology or sociology are a joke, especially now that college can easily cost well over 100k. The classes are pretty much all the same. You have some nutty professor rambling on about stuff that is borderline insane and has no relevance to the real world.

DP here. You seem to have disdain for the inherent value of education and how it prepares one for varied success. You not only express that disdain, you demonstrate it.

That depends on your chosen career. A college degree absolutely makes you more marketable and will likely create opportunities that don't exist without a degree. But most majors don't even come close to giving you the skills you need to do a particular job. I probably learned more from working crappy jobs than I did reading books and writing papers. You are literally doing the exact same thing over and over again for four years. What a bore.

Your anti-intellectual position is consistent. But what you learned in college may not be the same as what others learn. And this is me responding kindly.

I'm anti-intellectual because I'm a realist and decided to study in a field with a relatively high starting salary?

What you learned doesn't matter because it doesn't mean that you have a marketable skill. And trust me, the market has determined that a 4 year degree in sociology or psychology is one step above burger flipper at McDonalds.

No, you are anti-intellectual because you literally disdain the benefit of “reading books and writing papers”.

Many liberal arts majors choose such majors since those majors have many courses that do not have any tests and the final grades are dependent on papers and essays that can be purchased on line. These papers are customized to ordering customers and are relatively inexpensive. These students can graduate without taking any tests or actually writing any of the required papers themselves. Such is not possible for STEM courses or majors.

This was absolutely not the case when I did my BA in Comparative Literature at Harvard (with Language Citation in Latin!). You have very little understanding of how this kind of course is implemented, and you don't appear to grasp the idea that professors can recognise when a student submits work that is not her own.

Perhaps you attended a sub par university at which students throng together in huge classes so large that the professors cannot actually communicate properly with the students and teach? In that case, I suppose it is possible that students may purchase and submit compositions with no penalty, but I would imagine even your STEM courses are inferior at such an institution. Your REAL issue, then, is with "allowing" one's child to study liberal arts at the kind of inferior school to which you and your child were admitted.

Most professors are too lazy to want to do anything even if they have clear evidence of cheating. They just do not want the extra hassle and do not want to get involved in time consuming process. Hence the proliferation of cheating.

Nearly all professors now use software that they run all the papers through--no work required--it's built into the learning management system. This captures a lot of purchased papers that often have regurgitated sections--you get a score of how much is taken from other sources. These software get better all the time as each paper submitted adds to the database. Profs in writing intensive courses also require the papers to be done in and discussed in steps (more for learning, but this also prevents cheating). Doesn't solve all cheating issues, but cuts down quite a bit.

We all know about the programs for papers - even the on-line companies and their contractors are well aware. Professors do not want to get involved in the process that they have to deal with once the misconduct is officially reported as alleged academic violation.

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Anonymous wrote:The liberal arts crowd sure is worked up! So many of these anecdotal stories are pretty much meaningless. My college dropout neighbor makes over 500k in pharma sales. You should just get a GED and make big bucks in pharma sales!

When people goof on liberal arts degrees, they aren't talking about someone who uses their liberal arts degree to get into law school. They are talking about someone who majors in something useless like sociology.

Sociology isn’t useless. I work as an attorney for a federal agency and most days use my sociology degree more than my English degree or even my law degree.

You make decent money because you have a law degree and work as a lawyer. Majors like psychology or sociology are a joke, especially now that college can easily cost well over 100k. The classes are pretty much all the same. You have some nutty professor rambling on about stuff that is borderline insane and has no relevance to the real world.

DP here. You seem to have disdain for the inherent value of education and how it prepares one for varied success. You not only express that disdain, you demonstrate it.

That depends on your chosen career. A college degree absolutely makes you more marketable and will likely create opportunities that don't exist without a degree. But most majors don't even come close to giving you the skills you need to do a particular job. I probably learned more from working crappy jobs than I did reading books and writing papers. You are literally doing the exact same thing over and over again for four years. What a bore.

Your anti-intellectual position is consistent. But what you learned in college may not be the same as what others learn. And this is me responding kindly.

I'm anti-intellectual because I'm a realist and decided to study in a field with a relatively high starting salary?

What you learned doesn't matter because it doesn't mean that you have a marketable skill. And trust me, the market has determined that a 4 year degree in sociology or psychology is one step above burger flipper at McDonalds.

No, you are anti-intellectual because you literally disdain the benefit of “reading books and writing papers”.

Many liberal arts majors choose such majors since those majors have many courses that do not have any tests and the final grades are dependent on papers and essays that can be purchased on line. These papers are customized to ordering customers and are relatively inexpensive. These students can graduate without taking any tests or actually writing any of the required papers themselves. Such is not possible for STEM courses or majors.

This was absolutely not the case when I did my BA in Comparative Literature at Harvard (with Language Citation in Latin!). You have very little understanding of how this kind of course is implemented, and you don't appear to grasp the idea that professors can recognise when a student submits work that is not her own.

Perhaps you attended a sub par university at which students throng together in huge classes so large that the professors cannot actually communicate properly with the students and teach? In that case, I suppose it is possible that students may purchase and submit compositions with no penalty, but I would imagine even your STEM courses are inferior at such an institution. Your REAL issue, then, is with "allowing" one's child to study liberal arts at the kind of inferior school to which you and your child were admitted.

Most professors are too lazy to want to do anything even if they have clear evidence of cheating. They just do not want the extra hassle and do not want to get involved in time consuming process. Hence the proliferation of cheating.

Nearly all professors now use software that they run all the papers through--no work required--it's built into the learning management system. This captures a lot of purchased papers that often have regurgitated sections--you get a score of how much is taken from other sources. These software get better all the time as each paper submitted adds to the database. Profs in writing intensive courses also require the papers to be done in and discussed in steps (more for learning, but this also prevents cheating). Doesn't solve all cheating issues, but cuts down quite a bit.

We all know about the programs for papers - even the on-line companies and their contractors are well aware. Professors do not want to get involved in the process that they have to deal with once the misconduct is officially reported as alleged academic violation.

Most professors just have the students submit the paper to the software first though and then they know they are going to get flagged and they can opt not to submit. They don't get an on-time grade for the paper but don't kicked out for cheating.

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Things I have learned from this thread:

- Liberal Arts graduates remain jobless
- Liberal Arts does not include math or sciences
- Liberal Arts students all cheat
- Liberal Arts professors are lazy and don't do their jobs

Glad I got this straight. Glad I now know that the educational approach that had tremendous successes for thousands of years and gave us virtually all of Western culture is now suddenly worthless.

Thanks for setting me straight, geniuses of DCUM!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_arts_education

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Anonymous wrote:Things I have learned from this thread:

- Liberal Arts graduates remain jobless
- Liberal Arts does not include math or sciences
- Liberal Arts students all cheat
- Liberal Arts professors are lazy and don't do their jobs

Glad I got this straight. Glad I now know that the educational approach that had tremendous successes for thousands of years and gave us virtually all of Western culture is now suddenly worthless.

Thanks for setting me straight, geniuses of DCUM!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_arts_education

Some fraternities have a list of classes one can take and get a decent grade without taking any tests along with contact information for various different companies one can order different type of papers.

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Anonymous wrote:Things I have learned from this thread:

- Liberal Arts graduates remain jobless
- Liberal Arts does not include math or sciences
- Liberal Arts students all cheat
- Liberal Arts professors are lazy and don't do their jobs

Glad I got this straight. Glad I now know that the educational approach that had tremendous successes for thousands of years and gave us virtually all of Western culture is now suddenly worthless.

Thanks for setting me straight, geniuses of DCUM!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_arts_education

"Genius" trolls of scum, more like it. Or former business majors, currently unemployed, who can post all day. They have absolutely no idea what a classic education comprises.

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Anonymous wrote:Things I have learned from this thread:

- Liberal Arts graduates remain jobless
- Liberal Arts does not include math or sciences
- Liberal Arts students all cheat
- Liberal Arts professors are lazy and don't do their jobs

Glad I got this straight. Glad I now know that the educational approach that had tremendous successes for thousands of years and gave us virtually all of Western culture is now suddenly worthless.

Thanks for setting me straight, geniuses of DCUM!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_arts_education

"Genius" trolls of scum, more like it. Or former business majors, currently unemployed, who can post all day. They have absolutely no idea what a classic education comprises.

You would've been able to employ some critical thinking skill and writing skill with your reply if you had actually written some of the college papers that were assigned to you when you were obtaining your liberal arts degree instead of regurgitating profanity and non-arguments.

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Anonymous wrote:Things I have learned from this thread:

- Liberal Arts graduates remain jobless
- Liberal Arts does not include math or sciences
- Liberal Arts students all cheat
- Liberal Arts professors are lazy and don't do their jobs

Glad I got this straight. Glad I now know that the educational approach that had tremendous successes for thousands of years and gave us virtually all of Western culture is now suddenly worthless.

Thanks for setting me straight, geniuses of DCUM!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_arts_education

"Genius" trolls of scum, more like it. Or former business majors, currently unemployed, who can post all day. They have absolutely no idea what a classic education comprises.

You would've been able to employ some critical thinking skill and writing skill with your reply if you had actually written some of the college papers that were assigned to you when you were obtaining your liberal arts degree instead of regurgitating profanity and non-arguments.

Different poster.

Hitchens's razor is an epistemological razor expressed by writer Christopher Hitchens. It says that the burden of proof regarding the truthfulness of a claim lies with the one who makes the claim; if this burden is not met, then the claim is unfounded, and its opponents need not argue further in order to dismiss it.

Hitchens has phrased the razor in writing as "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence."

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Anonymous wrote:Things I have learned from this thread:

- Liberal Arts graduates remain jobless
- Liberal Arts does not include math or sciences
- Liberal Arts students all cheat
- Liberal Arts professors are lazy and don't do their jobs

Glad I got this straight. Glad I now know that the educational approach that had tremendous successes for thousands of years and gave us virtually all of Western culture is now suddenly worthless.

Thanks for setting me straight, geniuses of DCUM!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_arts_education

"Genius" trolls of scum, more like it. Or former business majors, currently unemployed, who can post all day. They have absolutely no idea what a classic education comprises.

You would've been able to employ some critical thinking skill and writing skill with your reply if you had actually written some of the college papers that were assigned to you when you were obtaining your liberal arts degree instead of regurgitating profanity and non-arguments.

Different poster.

Hitchens's razor is an epistemological razor expressed by writer Christopher Hitchens. It says that the burden of proof regarding the truthfulness of a claim lies with the one who makes the claim; if this burden is not met, then the claim is unfounded, and its opponents need not argue further in order to dismiss it.

Hitchens has phrased the razor in writing as "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence."

"The difference in pay is evident right after graduation. The average college graduate earned $37,000 at the entry-level, the report found. But those with STEM degrees averaged $43,000, while their classmates with arts, humanities, and liberal arts degrees averaged $29,000. Both figures far outpaced the entry-level pay of recent high school graduates, who averaged $22,000 annually.

STEM majors between the ages of 25 to 59 earned a median annual salary of $76,000, while the median salary of those with arts, humanities, or liberal arts degrees was $51,000. Median incomes for teaching or serving degrees—including education, psychology, and social work majors—were lowest, at $46,000. Business majors were in between, at $65,000."

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/financial-advisors/091015/worstpaying-college-majors-america.asp

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Anonymous wrote:Things I have learned from this thread:

- Liberal Arts graduates remain jobless
- Liberal Arts does not include math or sciences
- Liberal Arts students all cheat
- Liberal Arts professors are lazy and don't do their jobs

Glad I got this straight. Glad I now know that the educational approach that had tremendous successes for thousands of years and gave us virtually all of Western culture is now suddenly worthless.

Thanks for setting me straight, geniuses of DCUM!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_arts_education

"Genius" trolls of scum, more like it. Or former business majors, currently unemployed, who can post all day. They have absolutely no idea what a classic education comprises.

You would've been able to employ some critical thinking skill and writing skill with your reply if you had actually written some of the college papers that were assigned to you when you were obtaining your liberal arts degree instead of regurgitating profanity and non-arguments.

Different poster.

Hitchens's razor is an epistemological razor expressed by writer Christopher Hitchens. It says that the burden of proof regarding the truthfulness of a claim lies with the one who makes the claim; if this burden is not met, then the claim is unfounded, and its opponents need not argue further in order to dismiss it.

Hitchens has phrased the razor in writing as "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence."

"The difference in pay is evident right after graduation. The average college graduate earned $37,000 at the entry-level, the report found. But those with STEM degrees averaged $43,000, while their classmates with arts, humanities, and liberal arts degrees averaged $29,000. Both figures far outpaced the entry-level pay of recent high school graduates, who averaged $22,000 annually.

STEM majors between the ages of 25 to 59 earned a median annual salary of $76,000, while the median salary of those with arts, humanities, or liberal arts degrees was $51,000. Median incomes for teaching or serving degrees—including education, psychology, and social work majors—were lowest, at $46,000. Business majors were in between, at $65,000."

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/financial-advisors/091015/worstpaying-college-majors-america.asp

So many facts about joblessness, cheating liberal arts students, and professors who ignore cheating.

Oh, wait, I mean no, there are none of those things.

[Anonymous]

Damn, you all really care a lot about money.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Liberal arts teach you what you need to be successfully so many different situations.

Engineering, accounting, finance, and other field-specific majors teach you how to solve problems in specific areas.


I have a degree in the former. My husband has a degree in the later. It's amazing how much of what I consider a whole education he is missing. He was prepared for a certain job, but doesn't have the familiarity with literature, art, history, and philosophy that I thought was normal because all of my SLAC friends recognize those references. And he sucks at Jeopardy. lol

Interest, my engineer spouse has a heavy interest in politics and government and reads way more than I do.

Politics and government makes for dull conversation as opposed to what PP stated which was "literature, art, history, and philosophy".