So over APS

[Anonymous]

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I really don't understand the APS apologists. We all agree that APS teachers were unhappy this year, right? They got poor info from administrators and a constantly changing story. The tech was terrible. The RTS planning atrocious. Disorganized and ever changing. So why is it so hard to believe that many teachers had terrible morale and underperformed? There was no incentive to do better. There was no enthusiasm. It was a long and terrible slog. I'm sure some with a naturally peppy disposition managed to keep their pep, but that surely wasn't universal.

Oh, I see, we are judging teacher quality on how "peppy" teachers are.

Yes, the entitled parents are judging on exactly that. Any time a teacher has said that they had kids not showing up, turning off their cameras and peacing out instead of doing their work or paying attention, the hysteri-mommies came rushing out of the woodwork to tell them that "my precious snowflake would participate if only YOU WERE MORE ENGAGING" (read: entertaining, dancing and cavorting like a party clown, and somehow magically able to compete with lack of parenting, lack of supervision, lack of clearly enforced parental expectations, oh, and video games and YouTube).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kid had almost 100 missing assignments last quarter and the teacher never reached out (elementary school). I stopped checking Canvas because it never occurred to me that my A student had simply checked out and started lying to me about completing his work. Could I have done better monitoring? Absolutely! Could my little kid have just been more responsible? Of course! Could the teacher have reached out to meet with me to discuss rather than just dumping the info on the report card? I think so. I’ve been very understanding of APS navigating the pandemic and having to rely heavily on remote learning, but this made me realize the teacher probably doesn’t like my kid and doesn’t care if he learns anything this year. Not really the vibe anyone wants for their kid.

Ugh.

For real. I’m hoping your kid is able to decompress this summer. I think many people are in his/her situation. At the same time, that teacher should be fired. I think 30-40% of them should lose their jobs. We can do better.

Hahahahahaha. And your kid can be taught by a Target cashier whose extensive criminal record just barely squeaked by on a plea deal not to include a felony.

But sure, no problem -- just as long as you're lining up yourself to replace those 30-40%. Enjoy that sweet, sweet first-year teacher's salary. Go Mom go!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:+1. The complaint was that the parent had no clue that kids hadn't submitted things for weeks. Parent Vue might show something missing that was turned in. But in general, it would alert you to the general existence of a problem. But go ahead and continue to look for anyone else to blame.

+1. Astonishing for an adult not to check even ONE time, which could have caught the fact that their own kid was not bothering to do their work, in weeks and weeks. These sites are available 24/7, so no "but I had to wooooooork" excuses. But sure, it's the "school's fault."

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Anonymous wrote:I guess they can start being concerned now they transformed my A student to a straight D student!

Not really seeing why that’s their concern.

Someone earlier in the thread said the teacher probably wasn’t concerned about my A student because other kids were struggling more, and I was merely pointing out that my child has now moved into the category of D student, so perhaps the teacher will care more?

They won't. Welcome to APS.

Unfortunately this year, he would have done better to fail. The focus is on making sure kids pass, not on helping D students raise their grades to Cs.

PP whose kids have been failing at least 1 class (one them has been failing about half), and I assure you, if that has been their focus, it's impossible to tell. Have spoken to several other parents with kids at different schools, also with failing grades, and have not yet heard of these supposed "targeted interventions" that kids are supposed to get when they're failing. My kid has at times had a 30 average in more than one class and I have had to beg teachers to tell us what WE (the parents) can do to assist. At one point asked my kid's guidance counselor if there was any consideration for kids like mine (formerly straight As, now failing at least half)--maybe allow for extra time to turn in assignments? Maybe offer the option of just repeating a class next year? She chuckled.

To be getting a THIRTY, barring profound intellectual disabilities and being placed in inappropriate level classes, means YOU ARE NOT DOING YOUR WORK.

So your kid should get "extra time to turn in assignments" over kids who actually did and turned in their work? GTFOH. No wonder she chuckled.

And if the class is a core class (English or math especially), no, you're not going to get a free "do-over" and -- what? Give your kid another year/class of free public education? Four years of core subjects are required for graduation, and they will not be allowed to take two at one time. Your expectations are hilariously unreasonable.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess they can start being concerned now they transformed my A student to a straight D student!

Not really seeing why that’s their concern.

Someone earlier in the thread said the teacher probably wasn’t concerned about my A student because other kids were struggling more, and I was merely pointing out that my child has now moved into the category of D student, so perhaps the teacher will care more?

They won't. Welcome to APS.

Unfortunately this year, he would have done better to fail. The focus is on making sure kids pass, not on helping D students raise their grades to Cs.

PP whose kids have been failing at least 1 class (one them has been failing about half), and I assure you, if that has been their focus, it's impossible to tell. Have spoken to several other parents with kids at different schools, also with failing grades, and have not yet heard of these supposed "targeted interventions" that kids are supposed to get when they're failing. My kid has at times had a 30 average in more than one class and I have had to beg teachers to tell us what WE (the parents) can do to assist. At one point asked my kid's guidance counselor if there was any consideration for kids like mine (formerly straight As, now failing at least half)--maybe allow for extra time to turn in assignments? Maybe offer the option of just repeating a class next year? She chuckled.

To be getting a THIRTY, barring profound intellectual disabilities and being placed in inappropriate level classes, means YOU ARE NOT DOING YOUR WORK.

So your kid should get "extra time to turn in assignments" over kids who actually did and turned in their work? GTFOH. No wonder she chuckled.

And if the class is a core class (English or math especially), no, you're not going to get a free "do-over" and -- what? Give your kid another year/class of free public education? Four years of core subjects are required for graduation, and they will not be allowed to take two at one time. Your expectations are hilariously unreasonable.

Eh, I would go easy here. My middle schooler was getting an E in a class or two over dumb misunderstandings on, like, three assignments. They were big assignments, but the kid had actually gone to class and participated, just had problems or issues with turning them in or with understanding the assignment etc.

This is a weird year. We should all be forgiving of one another. I don't understand the chuckling from the administrator or the attitudes that these kids made their own beds and now must lie in them. These kids are kids, dealing with an unprecedented year. Of course teachers and administrators should be understanding here and offering chances and third chances and tenth chances. wtf man these are good kids in a tough situation.

I don't know what the teachers and administrators are going through to give you this as a response, but I hope things improve.

[Anonymous]

Things were just a little different, but it’s inspiring to hear how many folks loved the robust DL that occurred. Blessed to have an APS in the DMV.

[Anonymous]

My son does his work. He kept his camera on and participated. HW/schoolwork done before biking to park to meet friends or sports practice.

Not once did we check parentvue.

He has straight As. 7th grade.

We made our sons leave their iPhones downstairs in the kitchen for the entire school day. Those things were lit up like a Christmas tree from group messages and chats the entire school day from friends “in school”. Some of his friends were playing video games all day.

By the end of elementary school kids should be self sufficient and able to organize and do their work, absent disabilities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My son does his work. He kept his camera on and participated. HW/schoolwork done before biking to park to meet friends or sports practice.

Not once did we check parentvue.

He has straight As. 7th grade.

We made our sons leave their iPhones downstairs in the kitchen for the entire school day. Those things were lit up like a Christmas tree from group messages and chats the entire school day from friends “in school”. Some of his friends were playing video games all day.

By the end of elementary school kids should be self sufficient and able to organize and do their work, absent disabilities.

Congratulations! You're the perfect parent.

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Anonymous wrote:My son does his work. He kept his camera on and participated. HW/schoolwork done before biking to park to meet friends or sports practice.

Not once did we check parentvue.

He has straight As. 7th grade.

We made our sons leave their iPhones downstairs in the kitchen for the entire school day. Those things were lit up like a Christmas tree from group messages and chats the entire school day from friends “in school”. Some of his friends were playing video games all day.

By the end of elementary school kids should be self sufficient and able to organize and do their work, absent disabilities.

Congratulations! You're the perfect parent.

They actually supported their kids to be successful, despite having their own jobs and commitments. Instead, you complained all year and now some of you are trying to fire teachers for your own shortcomings.

Congratulations are indeed in order. Bravo to all parents who did their best during an unprecedented year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My son does his work. He kept his camera on and participated. HW/schoolwork done before biking to park to meet friends or sports practice.

Not once did we check parentvue.

He has straight As. 7th grade.

We made our sons leave their iPhones downstairs in the kitchen for the entire school day. Those things were lit up like a Christmas tree from group messages and chats the entire school day from friends “in school”. Some of his friends were playing video games all day.

By the end of elementary school kids should be self sufficient and able to organize and do their work, absent disabilities.

Congratulations! You're the perfect parent.

Ha. We sent ours to Montessori elementary (APS), which doesn't believe in homework, so despite all the claims of Montessori kids being more self-sufficient they were woefully unprepared for middle school with Canvas and multiple teachers and assignments every day. What an effing disaster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My son does his work. He kept his camera on and participated. HW/schoolwork done before biking to park to meet friends or sports practice.

Not once did we check parentvue.

He has straight As. 7th grade.

We made our sons leave their iPhones downstairs in the kitchen for the entire school day. Those things were lit up like a Christmas tree from group messages and chats the entire school day from friends “in school”. Some of his friends were playing video games all day.

By the end of elementary school kids should be self sufficient and able to organize and do their work, absent disabilities.

Oh please. I have four kids and thought and did the same. Guess what, each kid is different and what works for one does not work for another.

[Anonymous]

We switched to APS mid year after a move from DCPS. Honestly, DCPS is so so much worse it isn’t funny. Arlington is a breath of fresh air and we couldn’t be happier. In this case, the grass was greener - remember you still have it better than 80 percent of the country.

[Anonymous]

Hear that, APE people?! Can you please calm down now for a while and try to enjoy the world getting back a little closer to normal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We switched to APS mid year after a move from DCPS. Honestly, DCPS is so so much worse it isn’t funny. Arlington is a breath of fresh air and we couldn’t be happier. In this case, the grass was greener - remember you still have it better than 80 percent of the country.

Huh? Given how rich and bubbled Arlington is, it has it better overall than at least 98.5 percent of the country. Oddly, though, the schools aren’t anything special. Sort of good, but not very good.

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Anonymous wrote:My son does his work. He kept his camera on and participated. HW/schoolwork done before biking to park to meet friends or sports practice.

Not once did we check parentvue.

He has straight As. 7th grade.

We made our sons leave their iPhones downstairs in the kitchen for the entire school day. Those things were lit up like a Christmas tree from group messages and chats the entire school day from friends “in school”. Some of his friends were playing video games all day.

By the end of elementary school kids should be self sufficient and able to organize and do their work, absent disabilities.

Congratulations! You're the perfect parent.

Ha. We sent ours to Montessori elementary (APS), which doesn't believe in homework, so despite all the claims of Montessori kids being more self-sufficient they were woefully unprepared for middle school with Canvas and multiple teachers and assignments every day. What an effing disaster.

Yeah, the Montessori model didn’t factor in pandemic ipad life.