DCI college acceptances

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Anonymous wrote:Every one of the top DCI admits are first-generation URM (under represented minorities). Which is GREAT!

But makes these elite admits completely irrelevant to most of us on this site.
If you are white and your kid is at the top of the DCI class they'll be going to Pitt or Wisconsin or similar.

Absolutely not true. Where are you getting your information? (Or should I ask, why are you making this tuff up?) Obviously you're not a parent or you'd see this for yourself. But excellent students from all socioeconomic backgrounds are getting into great schools, including ivy league and other schools you probably wish your child could attend (this seems to mean an awful lot to you). Not that Pitt and Wisconsin aren't great. You are so strangely obsessed with putting DCI down.

[Anonymous]

Many of us are deciding whether to prioritize DCI feeder schools in our lottery choices, including taking on longer commutes and giving up neighborhood schools. Especially without a guarantee anymore, the academics are absolutely relevant. I’m much less willing to gamble our elementary experience on a chance at a school with academics I don’t have total confidence in. If you take middle and high school out of consideration, school choices look much different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Many of us are deciding whether to prioritize DCI feeder schools in our lottery choices, including taking on longer commutes and giving up neighborhood schools. Especially without a guarantee anymore, the academics are absolutely relevant. I’m much less willing to gamble our elementary experience on a chance at a school with academics I don’t have total confidence in. If you take middle and high school out of consideration, school choices look much different.

I don't mean to sound patronizing, but if you are trying to decide on how to rank a charter school pre-K program in your lottery list based on where this year's DCI graduates are going to college, you are in for a long a bumpy road with DCPS. By the time your child is in high school, DCI will be a very different place (for better or worse), and neighborhood or language charter feeder patterns will likely have shifted, again. Charters are a big experiment and the DC government is unpredictable. The whole thing, on some level, is a gamble.

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Anonymous wrote:DCI also asked to have its charter revised so that they wouldn’t be penalized by the DCPCSB for having low pass rates for IB exams. Without the revision, they would likely not retain tier 1 status for the high school. I’m not sure whether or not that request was approved.

At what point would the international IB organization revoke authorization? I can't imagine they don't have standards for pass rates?

You're all speculating about DCI's IB status being revoked as if something bad has happened, Getting the results it got last year for a brand-new school wide program (IB for all, not a magnet school or program just for a subset of the school). From what I have seen, I'd expect even better results this year, despite pandemic craziness. Or I should say I think I know that certain students will score high on the IB points this year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is encouraging, though not a single Ivy or equivalent suggests it's probably not getting much buy in from top students.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Ivy admissions is a crap shoot lottery from anywhere even for top students.

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Anonymous wrote:Many of us are deciding whether to prioritize DCI feeder schools in our lottery choices, including taking on longer commutes and giving up neighborhood schools. Especially without a guarantee anymore, the academics are absolutely relevant. I’m much less willing to gamble our elementary experience on a chance at a school with academics I don’t have total confidence in. If you take middle and high school out of consideration, school choices look much different.

I don't mean to sound patronizing, but if you are trying to decide on how to rank a charter school pre-K program in your lottery list based on where this year's DCI graduates are going to college, you are in for a long a bumpy road with DCPS. By the time your child is in high school, DCI will be a very different place (for better or worse), and neighborhood or language charter feeder patterns will likely have shifted, again. Charters are a big experiment and the DC government is unpredictable. The whole thing, on some level, is a gamble.

Not to sound patronizing to you, but ECE is the best and sometimes only time to get into those feeder schools, and 6th grade isn’t that far from kindergarten, especially if you prioritize not moving your child multiple times in elementary. So no, it’s not too soon to evaluate a middle school path when the choices you make now foreclose one potential pathway going forward.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Every one of the top DCI admits are first-generation URM (under represented minorities). Which is GREAT!

But makes these elite admits completely irrelevant to most of us on this site.
If you are white and your kid is at the top of the DCI class they'll be going to Pitt or Wisconsin or similar.

Of the two Yale admits, one is Black (Ethiopian-American), one is white.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Every one of the top DCI admits are first-generation URM (under represented minorities). Which is GREAT!

But makes these elite admits completely irrelevant to most of us on this site.
If you are white and your kid is at the top of the DCI class they'll be going to Pitt or Wisconsin or similar.

Of the two Yale admits, one is Black (Ethiopian-American), one is white.

Is this just anecdotal or are actual names/stats published somewhere?

[Anonymous]

They are posting their seniors with admittances on FB and IG.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every one of the top DCI admits are first-generation URM (under represented minorities). Which is GREAT!

But makes these elite admits completely irrelevant to most of us on this site.
If you are white and your kid is at the top of the DCI class they'll be going to Pitt or Wisconsin or similar.

Of the two Yale admits, one is Black (Ethiopian-American), one is white.

Is this just anecdotal or are actual names/stats published somewhere?

OMG, are you demanding the names of which kids (likely not yet 18) got into what colleges when you're not even a parent at the school but a creepy, nasty message board onlooker? The school is posting some of these in congrats posts on its Facebook page for kids who have made decisions and are willing to share the news publicly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Many of us are deciding whether to prioritize DCI feeder schools in our lottery choices, including taking on longer commutes and giving up neighborhood schools. Especially without a guarantee anymore, the academics are absolutely relevant. I’m much less willing to gamble our elementary experience on a chance at a school with academics I don’t have total confidence in. If you take middle and high school out of consideration, school choices look much different.

I don't mean to sound patronizing, but if you are trying to decide on how to rank a charter school pre-K program in your lottery list based on where this year's DCI graduates are going to college, you are in for a long a bumpy road with DCPS. By the time your child is in high school, DCI will be a very different place (for better or worse), and neighborhood or language charter feeder patterns will likely have shifted, again. Charters are a big experiment and the DC government is unpredictable. The whole thing, on some level, is a gamble.

I'm just not convinced of this. Why not? Because the situation in the feeder schools has been fairly static for years now.

The immersion in the elementary grades hasn't been too serious all along for parents who elect not to take it seriously, or can't take it seriously (mainly lack of home resources), particularly at Stokes and YuYing. The number of native speakers in all of these programs has been slowly dropping for years, the math has never been terribly challenging, weak school leaders stay for years and years, etc. DCI's demographics will shift somewhat in the next 6-10 years, but not incredibly. One glaring problem is that the strongest 4th graders from the feeders mostly still decamp for BASIS, Washington Latin, privates and the burbs, a trend which doesn't bode DCI. There's an stubbornly insistent, and inconvenient, brain drain pre-DCI that just doesn't seem to be abating.

Parents can't force DCI to run a demanding IBD program, with average pass point totals in the 30s. They can wish away DCI's lack of rigor away, and do their utmost to compensate for it outside of school, but they can't excise it by dint of their good intentions.

[Anonymous]

I predict that DCI will keep chugging along more or less as is year after year, just with more UMC kids on board as time goes by.

If you're not OK with the program now, you won't be OK with it 5 or even 10 years from now.

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Anonymous wrote:Actually, it’s complicated. There are students who are in the CP and students in the DP. completing the DP does not mean you earn the IB diploma. For that you have to also pass a certain number of IB assessments on top of passing the class. And they couldn’t administer the tests last year or this year so they had to earn IB credits on internal assessments which the kids didn’t know either year were the “tests that counted”. All DCI graduates last year DID earn the Seal of Biliteracy” on their diplomas though, which is amazing!

Seal of Biliteracy on their diplomas? Whoohoo!!!!!

Give us a break.

We know a number of neighborhood kids who started at YuYing in K who are graduating from DCI this year. They certainly alren't fluent in Chinese. Not remotely. We happen to be fluent, so we know they aren't, nowhere near.

You don’t need to be fluent. You need to be proficient. That is good enough for some kids and their families.

My friend is Chinese. Her parents immigrated to this country. She is 1st generation and you know what? She’s not fluent either. Reality is even kids who have native parents, it’s hard to be fluent especially in Chinese.

I’m Vietnamese, came here when I was 4. Far from fluent.

Both of our parents only speak in our native language to us too.

People have different experiences, expectations, and resources and it’s sad that you have to put these kids down.

Get a grip. Nobody's putting the kids down. It's the system that's broken, handing out silly bilingual certificates to kids who can hardly speak languages they've studied like crazy since age 4 or 5.

Language immersion in public schools in this city generally leaves a lot to be desired, other than for Spanish perhaps. Sad that few stakeholders face the truth and push for change.

Are you for real? PP was absolutely putting the kids down. I suggest you re-read the post. Then again, maybe you are the PP.

I also suggest you re-read the requirements to get the bilingual certificates. Kids who can “hardly speak the language” don’t score well on language exams. Guess you haven’t figured out that one yet.

Please everyone ignore the PP, it’s the crazy anti Yu Ying Chinese heritage speaker person.

Back on track: congratulations to all DCI grads!

LOL! Ah yes, it’s definitely her again. The crazy batty one obsessed with commenting on every single thread the same thing again ad nauseum.

[Anonymous]

Sorry, but I beg to differ. 75% of the student body at an immersion school, with immersion feeders schools, has intermediate language skills in very easy languages like Spanish and French? Those are very, very low standards. I know upper elementary students at feeders that can barely string together a sentence after 5+ years of immersion starting in ECE. Highly doubt the student body will get markedly better once the lifelong feeder kids make their way up.

And 15 of 66 kids got the Diploma, that’s 23%. And we can’t assume their scores are upper 20s, they could easily be higher or lower since that information wasn’t published. I’m sure some kids did well despite low standards, but I’m just tired of how disingenuous the narrative is in DC that we’re providing kids excellent, competitive academic options. We’re settling and justifying ourselves, and that just makes me sad for everyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but I beg to differ. 75% of the student body at an immersion school, with immersion feeders schools, has intermediate language skills in very easy languages like Spanish and French? Those are very, very low standards. I know upper elementary students at feeders that can barely string together a sentence after 5+ years of immersion starting in ECE. Highly doubt the student body will get markedly better once the lifelong feeder kids make their way up.

And 15 of 66 kids got the Diploma, that’s 23%. And we can’t assume their scores are upper 20s, they could easily be higher or lower since that information wasn’t published. I’m sure some kids did well despite low standards, but I’m just tired of how disingenuous the narrative is in DC that we’re providing kids excellent, competitive academic options. We’re settling and justifying ourselves, and that just makes me sad for everyone.

You nailed it, PP. Sure, a few kids will do well anywhere despite low standards. But the DCPC immersion narrative has been disingenuous all along.

I worked at one of the IBD programs in MoCo. As a result, I know that average pass point totals per IB World School are public information available to researchers who contact Geneva directly. The total for DCI in 2020 was 26 on a 24-45 point scale.

Native speakers of Chinese have long point out that the narrative is disingenuous on DCUM. When they do, they're called racist jerks seeking preferential treatment for their children by parents who cling to the non-competitive status quo.

YY has never even bothered to hire a head who can string together a coherent sentence in Chinese. The arrangement obviously doesn't provide kids with an "excellent, competitive academic option" for learning Chinese. Even so, YY stakeholders defend and maintain it endlessly. This sort of sad justification hurts everybody involved.