Who hates Monday?

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My HS kid had nothing on Mondays for 95% of the quarter and now, at the end, he has a mass of assignments that day. It's almost like the teachers forgot they had to have a certain amount of grades for the quarter and are now just throwing things at the kids.

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Anonymous wrote:It is not a good idea to hate on teachers so much on this forum. A lot of teachers read it. Many of those teachers are good ones. After reading these posts, they may feel disinclined to give as much of themselves and their time to ingrates. Yes there are lazy and burnt out employees in any profession, but the teachers I knew sacrificed a lot to help their students. I realize people want to vent, but you are really poisoning your own well here by vilifying the people who help raise and nurture your children.

I am a great teacher. I still love teaching in spite of this awful year. But you are absolutely right. Seeing the disparaging comments from parents here and elsewhere and bearing all the blame for everything that happened while having literally no control over any of it taught me a very important lesson. I stopped working at all outside contract hours. I stopped reading YA books in my free time to always have something to recommend to students; I took back my reading time and read what I like. I will never again spend my own money on books, classroom supplies, etc. I can say these are all positive changes for me and my own family, but a lot of teachers realized we were constantly filling in these gaps, going above and beyond, and then took ALL the brunt of angry parents who said we have degrees in coloring, don’t care about kids, are lazy, etc. I am great at my job and do everything in my ability for my students within the hours of my contract but the days of free labor or pouring my own money back into the school are done.

This post makes me sooo glad I moved my kids to a good private school.

Why? Because a teacher wants to leave work on time and has a life outside of the school? Because the teacher isn’t willing to spend her own money on supplies for the classroom?

Because FCPS is such a disaster, it has completely demoralized its teachers, parents and students. But hey! They’re spending their time changing school names and talking about solar energy!

FCPS didn’t demoralize us. Comments like yours did. The commentary on boards like this and social media this did. Don’t blame FCPS. I always viewed my duty to students and parents. I worked for THEM. To see how parents turned on us the way they did... that was demoralizing. Not a school district making policy decisions the best they knew how at the time.

To the teacher: Don't make the mistake of believing online trolls or Angry Internet People represent your community. In the end it's about the kids. If you let DCUM ranters turn you off from being a great teacher, it is ultimately the kids that you fail. They need you. You can have tremendous positive impact on them, but only if you choose it.

But then she can't play the victim!

I think posters like you have veered into cruelty. We are all under stress in various ways. You logging onto DCUM to blast teachers as a whole just seems like a sadistic form of stress relief. You don't know all teachers, even if your kid's teacher is subpar, and your insults don't improve the profession or practice of teaching one iota. And in the end, the community and the kids still need those teachers. So what does demoralizing them accomplish except making you feel a a bit better momentarily?

I do think the teachers need to keep comments like this in perspective to the population. Even if you have fifty parents that make horrible comments about teachers online, that's a drop in the bucket in a school district with a hundred thousand students. And anyway, the parents actually matter less than the kids. The kids aren't making these comments, the parents are. So I am hoping teachers keep their focus on what is best for the kids.

Teachers do not deserve cruelty, but no one is above constructive criticism either. It's just a shame that the latter so often gets drowned out by the former.

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Anonymous wrote:It is impossible to be a working parent of young children with these Mondays. I can't get anything done. Kids are fighting and screaming and have nothing to do. DH is at work (as in not in the home). We can't afford any other type of care. How can they call this a proper school day? They have nothing to do. (1st and 4th).

Wow, I had the opposite problem. My second grader was busy with homework from 9:30am - 2:30pm and then had tutoring and girl scouts. She was online more today than she is on a normal school day!

Your second grader had five hours of homework, then online tutoring, then online girl scouts? OMG. What a shitty parent you are.

Excuse me - why does that make me a shitty parent? She plays outside for at least an hour (sometimes two) every single day and gets no other screen time. Tell me more about your child?

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Anonymous wrote:It is impossible to be a working parent of young children with these Mondays. I can't get anything done. Kids are fighting and screaming and have nothing to do. DH is at work (as in not in the home). We can't afford any other type of care. How can they call this a proper school day? They have nothing to do. (1st and 4th).

Wow, I had the opposite problem. My second grader was busy with homework from 9:30am - 2:30pm and then had tutoring and girl scouts. She was online more today than she is on a normal school day!

Your second grader had five hours of homework, then online tutoring, then online girl scouts? OMG. What a shitty parent you are.

More like what a shitty teacher, assigning all that homework.

I'm the mom who wrote this - so much unnecessary judgement!! This isn't about a shitty mom or a shitty teacher. My kid hasn't been able to finish her work on her in-school days, so in addition to her Monday work, she also had two in-school days worth of homework to do. Before return to school, she was done by lunchtime on Mondays - we originally scheduled the extra stuff on Mondays because, at the time, she wasn't online much those days.

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Anonymous wrote:It is impossible to be a working parent of young children with these Mondays. I can't get anything done. Kids are fighting and screaming and have nothing to do. DH is at work (as in not in the home). We can't afford any other type of care. How can they call this a proper school day? They have nothing to do. (1st and 4th).

Thy would just be fighting and screaming at school if they weren’t with you, ruining class for the children who don’t have behavior problems. Start parenting.

OP here. First of all, that's not true. Second of all, you know nothing about me other than what I just wrote.

So far today, we went on a brief walk but I had to take a work call; they cleaned the play areas, their rooms and emptied the dishwasher for me; they read; they did a math work sheet that I assigned for them. I have calls all afternoon. DH doesn't come till 7pm. It's gorgeous outside. I want them off their devices but our neighborhood isn't safe for them to be outside alone and they don't have school assignments. I don't even care that's it's nice outside. They should be in school.

Well, it probably doesn’t help that you are on your device, whining away to the anonymous masses. The first step you should take is modeling appropriate behavior.

SHE HAS A JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you expect those of us who need to work for a living to ignore our duties that hit us hard on Monday morning?? Where is the common sense?

She is not doing her "JOB!!!!!" while she is whining and moaning on DCUM about DL. So she can log off and go pay attention to her poor, "suffering" kids instead.

[Anonymous]

This thread is unusually toxic. Log off, people. Go outside.

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Anonymous wrote:Just saw my 4th grader’s teacher at the park with her preschooler. (I thought this was a teacher work day). She tried to avoid me but I marched right up to her to say hello.

They never had Monday work but would at least meet for 20 minutes.

I hope she reads this TBH.
I’m disgusted by this whole school year.

An FCPS teacher with a preschooler is required to have childcare on work days.

She’s also supposed to be working, not frolicking at the playground...

You’re some special kind of special

How is it acceptable for a teacher to be at the playground chilling with a preschooler on a day she is supposed to be at work? (1) She's not at work and (2) Her child should be in daycare. She obviously decided to save the daycare costs this year and just slack off.

Teachers were explicitly told that they did not need to arrange for childcare this year. This teacher playing with her child on a Monday morning is only doing what the school board laid out. She is not going above and beyond, but she is not required to be tethered to her computer on Monday's.

If you are upset, feel free to reach out to the school board. They are the ones that said this was what school would be for 2020-21. Not this random teacher.

Where was this posted or announced?

It was not "announced" to parents, because it's none of their business. It was communicated to the employees to whom their employer's policies apply.

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I will never again spend my own money on books, classroom supplies, etc.

As a parent, I will also never again donate to school funds, supplies, gifts for PTA drives, or school fundraising events. But I think it is good teachers are learning more about work-life balance. Also remember, a lot of trolls are on this site.

God, I love all these posts. (spluttering). "Well...well..I'm SO MAD about distance learning and I blame teachers for not begging their bosses or their union to go back into buildings during a pandemic that YOU'RE NOT GETTING ANY MORE CHRISTMAS OR TEACHER APPRECIATION AMAZON GIFT CARDS FROM ME!!"

LOL. I assure you, nobody cares.

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Anonymous wrote:It is not a good idea to hate on teachers so much on this forum. A lot of teachers read it. Many of those teachers are good ones. After reading these posts, they may feel disinclined to give as much of themselves and their time to ingrates. Yes there are lazy and burnt out employees in any profession, but the teachers I knew sacrificed a lot to help their students. I realize people want to vent, but you are really poisoning your own well here by vilifying the people who help raise and nurture your children.

I am a great teacher. I still love teaching in spite of this awful year. But you are absolutely right. Seeing the disparaging comments from parents here and elsewhere and bearing all the blame for everything that happened while having literally no control over any of it taught me a very important lesson. I stopped working at all outside contract hours. I stopped reading YA books in my free time to always have something to recommend to students; I took back my reading time and read what I like. I will never again spend my own money on books, classroom supplies, etc. I can say these are all positive changes for me and my own family, but a lot of teachers realized we were constantly filling in these gaps, going above and beyond, and then took ALL the brunt of angry parents who said we have degrees in coloring, don’t care about kids, are lazy, etc. I am great at my job and do everything in my ability for my students within the hours of my contract but the days of free labor or pouring my own money back into the school are done.

This post makes me sooo glad I moved my kids to a good private school.

Why? Because a teacher wants to leave work on time and has a life outside of the school? Because the teacher isn’t willing to spend her own money on supplies for the classroom?

Because FCPS is such a disaster, it has completely demoralized its teachers, parents and students. But hey! They’re spending their time changing school names and talking about solar energy!

FCPS didn’t demoralize us. Comments like yours did. The commentary on boards like this and social media this did. Don’t blame FCPS. I always viewed my duty to students and parents. I worked for THEM. To see how parents turned on us the way they did... that was demoralizing. Not a school district making policy decisions the best they knew how at the time.

To the teacher: Don't make the mistake of believing online trolls or Angry Internet People represent your community. In the end it's about the kids. If you let DCUM ranters turn you off from being a great teacher, it is ultimately the kids that you fail. They need you. You can have tremendous positive impact on them, but only if you choose it.

But then she can't play the victim!

Says the hysterical parent who has been playing the victim for the last year. LOL!

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Anonymous wrote:It is impossible to be a working parent of young children with these Mondays. I can't get anything done. Kids are fighting and screaming and have nothing to do. DH is at work (as in not in the home). We can't afford any other type of care. How can they call this a proper school day? They have nothing to do. (1st and 4th).

Wow, I had the opposite problem. My second grader was busy with homework from 9:30am - 2:30pm and then had tutoring and girl scouts. She was online more today than she is on a normal school day!

Your second grader had five hours of homework, then online tutoring, then online girl scouts? OMG. What a shitty parent you are.

More like what a shitty teacher, assigning all that homework.

I'm the mom who wrote this - so much unnecessary judgement!! This isn't about a shitty mom or a shitty teacher. My kid hasn't been able to finish her work on her in-school days, so in addition to her Monday work, she also had two in-school days worth of homework to do. Before return to school, she was done by lunchtime on Mondays - we originally scheduled the extra stuff on Mondays because, at the time, she wasn't online much those days.

Please don’t take this comment wrong... your second grader has so much work she isn’t able to finish it during regular school hours T-F? Seriously? What kind of work? I ask bc I also have a second grader and she is done with each assignment about 2 minutes in and sits around staring at the wall or online “shopping” for probably an hour each day, and she’s done with her Monday assignments in 20 minutes Max. This is not because she is a genius child, it’s just that they assign so VERY LITTLE work. So I’m interested in any details you can provide on this because I think it’s just another data point in how un-equal the schools all are this year! I’ve heard of these unicorn schools that actually assign children real work, but I have yet to meet anyone IRL with a child who attends one!

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Anonymous wrote:It is impossible to be a working parent of young children with these Mondays. I can't get anything done. Kids are fighting and screaming and have nothing to do. DH is at work (as in not in the home). We can't afford any other type of care. How can they call this a proper school day? They have nothing to do. (1st and 4th).

Wow, I had the opposite problem. My second grader was busy with homework from 9:30am - 2:30pm and then had tutoring and girl scouts. She was online more today than she is on a normal school day!

Your second grader had five hours of homework, then online tutoring, then online girl scouts? OMG. What a shitty parent you are.

More like what a shitty teacher, assigning all that homework.

I'm the mom who wrote this - so much unnecessary judgement!! This isn't about a shitty mom or a shitty teacher. My kid hasn't been able to finish her work on her in-school days, so in addition to her Monday work, she also had two in-school days worth of homework to do. Before return to school, she was done by lunchtime on Mondays - we originally scheduled the extra stuff on Mondays because, at the time, she wasn't online much those days.

Please don’t take this comment wrong... your second grader has so much work she isn’t able to finish it during regular school hours T-F? Seriously? What kind of work? I ask bc I also have a second grader and she is done with each assignment about 2 minutes in and sits around staring at the wall or online “shopping” for probably an hour each day, and she’s done with her Monday assignments in 20 minutes Max. This is not because she is a genius child, it’s just that they assign so VERY LITTLE work. So I’m interested in any details you can provide on this because I think it’s just another data point in how un-equal the schools all are this year! I’ve heard of these unicorn schools that actually assign children real work, but I have yet to meet anyone IRL with a child who attends one!

Pretty sure 95% of kids are a year behind at this point. But remember, Karl Frisch and Laura Jane Coehn are making sure that FCPS is looking into solar energy.

[Anonymous]

95% of kids are a year behind? Literally LOL at you just randomly making up statistics.

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Anonymous wrote:It is not a good idea to hate on teachers so much on this forum. A lot of teachers read it. Many of those teachers are good ones. After reading these posts, they may feel disinclined to give as much of themselves and their time to ingrates. Yes there are lazy and burnt out employees in any profession, but the teachers I knew sacrificed a lot to help their students. I realize people want to vent, but you are really poisoning your own well here by vilifying the people who help raise and nurture your children.

I am a great teacher. I still love teaching in spite of this awful year. But you are absolutely right. Seeing the disparaging comments from parents here and elsewhere and bearing all the blame for everything that happened while having literally no control over any of it taught me a very important lesson. I stopped working at all outside contract hours. I stopped reading YA books in my free time to always have something to recommend to students; I took back my reading time and read what I like. I will never again spend my own money on books, classroom supplies, etc. I can say these are all positive changes for me and my own family, but a lot of teachers realized we were constantly filling in these gaps, going above and beyond, and then took ALL the brunt of angry parents who said we have degrees in coloring, don’t care about kids, are lazy, etc. I am great at my job and do everything in my ability for my students within the hours of my contract but the days of free labor or pouring my own money back into the school are done.

This post makes me sooo glad I moved my kids to a good private school.

Why? Because a teacher wants to leave work on time and has a life outside of the school? Because the teacher isn’t willing to spend her own money on supplies for the classroom?

Because FCPS is such a disaster, it has completely demoralized its teachers, parents and students. But hey! They’re spending their time changing school names and talking about solar energy!

FCPS didn’t demoralize us. Comments like yours did. The commentary on boards like this and social media this did. Don’t blame FCPS. I always viewed my duty to students and parents. I worked for THEM. To see how parents turned on us the way they did... that was demoralizing. Not a school district making policy decisions the best they knew how at the time.

To the teacher: Don't make the mistake of believing online trolls or Angry Internet People represent your community. In the end it's about the kids. If you let DCUM ranters turn you off from being a great teacher, it is ultimately the kids that you fail. They need you. You can have tremendous positive impact on them, but only if you choose it.

But then she can't play the victim!

I think posters like you have veered into cruelty. We are all under stress in various ways. You logging onto DCUM to blast teachers as a whole just seems like a sadistic form of stress relief. You don't know all teachers, even if your kid's teacher is subpar, and your insults don't improve the profession or practice of teaching one iota. And in the end, the community and the kids still need those teachers. So what does demoralizing them accomplish except making you feel a a bit better momentarily?

I do think the teachers need to keep comments like this in perspective to the population. Even if you have fifty parents that make horrible comments about teachers online, that's a drop in the bucket in a school district with a hundred thousand students. And anyway, the parents actually matter less than the kids. The kids aren't making these comments, the parents are. So I am hoping teachers keep their focus on what is best for the kids.

Teachers do not deserve cruelty, but no one is above constructive criticism either. It's just a shame that the latter so often gets drowned out by the former.

Constructive criticism? I get that from my admin and my department. People who are actually aware of what our job entails and what it’s been like this year. Constructive criticism is not moms on DCUM who still don’t know what unions do and that Virginia is a non/union state saying “fire teachers keeping schools closed” or acting as if they know how to do our jobs better than we do.

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Anonymous wrote:It is not a good idea to hate on teachers so much on this forum. A lot of teachers read it. Many of those teachers are good ones. After reading these posts, they may feel disinclined to give as much of themselves and their time to ingrates. Yes there are lazy and burnt out employees in any profession, but the teachers I knew sacrificed a lot to help their students. I realize people want to vent, but you are really poisoning your own well here by vilifying the people who help raise and nurture your children.

I am a great teacher. I still love teaching in spite of this awful year. But you are absolutely right. Seeing the disparaging comments from parents here and elsewhere and bearing all the blame for everything that happened while having literally no control over any of it taught me a very important lesson. I stopped working at all outside contract hours. I stopped reading YA books in my free time to always have something to recommend to students; I took back my reading time and read what I like. I will never again spend my own money on books, classroom supplies, etc. I can say these are all positive changes for me and my own family, but a lot of teachers realized we were constantly filling in these gaps, going above and beyond, and then took ALL the brunt of angry parents who said we have degrees in coloring, don’t care about kids, are lazy, etc. I am great at my job and do everything in my ability for my students within the hours of my contract but the days of free labor or pouring my own money back into the school are done.

This post makes me sooo glad I moved my kids to a good private school.

Why? Because a teacher wants to leave work on time and has a life outside of the school? Because the teacher isn’t willing to spend her own money on supplies for the classroom?

Because FCPS is such a disaster, it has completely demoralized its teachers, parents and students. But hey! They’re spending their time changing school names and talking about solar energy!

FCPS didn’t demoralize us. Comments like yours did. The commentary on boards like this and social media this did. Don’t blame FCPS. I always viewed my duty to students and parents. I worked for THEM. To see how parents turned on us the way they did... that was demoralizing. Not a school district making policy decisions the best they knew how at the time.

To the teacher: Don't make the mistake of believing online trolls or Angry Internet People represent your community. In the end it's about the kids. If you let DCUM ranters turn you off from being a great teacher, it is ultimately the kids that you fail. They need you. You can have tremendous positive impact on them, but only if you choose it.

But then she can't play the victim!

I think posters like you have veered into cruelty. We are all under stress in various ways. You logging onto DCUM to blast teachers as a whole just seems like a sadistic form of stress relief. You don't know all teachers, even if your kid's teacher is subpar, and your insults don't improve the profession or practice of teaching one iota. And in the end, the community and the kids still need those teachers. So what does demoralizing them accomplish except making you feel a a bit better momentarily?

I do think the teachers need to keep comments like this in perspective to the population. Even if you have fifty parents that make horrible comments about teachers online, that's a drop in the bucket in a school district with a hundred thousand students. And anyway, the parents actually matter less than the kids. The kids aren't making these comments, the parents are. So I am hoping teachers keep their focus on what is best for the kids.

Teachers do not deserve cruelty, but no one is above constructive criticism either. It's just a shame that the latter so often gets drowned out by the former.

Constructive criticism? I get that from my admin and my department. People who are actually aware of what our job entails and what it’s been like this year. Constructive criticism is not moms on DCUM who still don’t know what unions do and that Virginia is a non/union state saying “fire teachers keeping schools closed” or acting as if they know how to do our jobs better than we do.

Let’s put the trolls and cruel posts aside for a moment. There have been thoughtful comments and legitimate gripes on this board and in the discourse in general, from parents. Parents who got an unusually close up look at learning this year. If you’re saying that you don’t accept constructive criticism if it doesn’t come from your admin, then that’s a real problem. That’s not how our system works. I repeat that parents should be respectful, but it is absolutely appropriate to voice concerns, ask questions, and float suggestions. And if PP decides to stop being a great teacher and start phoning it in, that deserves criticism because it fails the children.

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I will never again spend my own money on books, classroom supplies, etc.


As a parent, I will also never again donate to school funds, supplies, gifts for PTA drives, or school fundraising events. But I think it is good teachers are learning more about work-life balance. Also remember, a lot of trolls are on this site.


God, I love all these posts. (spluttering). "Well...well..I'm SO MAD about distance learning and I blame teachers for not begging their bosses or their union to go back into buildings during a pandemic that YOU'RE NOT GETTING ANY MORE CHRISTMAS OR TEACHER APPRECIATION AMAZON GIFT CARDS FROM ME!!"

LOL. I assure you, nobody cares.

I think teachers are constantly in the past asking for things, but I was responding to the teacher post saying she wouldn't ever again buy stuff. Neither will I. Obviously you do care enough to respond heatedly. People do care. Many professions get criticized unfairly even publicly. It is something to deal with. Like I said I do think work life balance is a good thing. And I think our government and not parents should be getting sufficient school supplies for schools.