Deep Racism Problems at NCS and STA: Questions/Answers we can't get through admissions

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Relax, OP. Racism is everywhere, and the schools you mention are not worse than any of the others.

I believe the worse are diverse public schools in low-to-average-income neighborhoods. Want to know why? Because racism comes from parents. Parents who have kept to their own communities, because of low education and no need for any sort of perception check, will reflexively express the racial or religious stereotypes they have learned from their own parents. Kids go to school and repeat them when they see other kids who don't look like them, and the cycle starts again. No one holds back. And the school administrations do nothing because they are dealing with teen dropouts, families in crisis, and gang-related violence. Racist or religious bullying, by comparison, is not a priority.

Racism is alive and well in the more tony, culturally-exposed circles, be they in public or private schools, but at least it's tempered by a measure of self-reflection and a desire for political correctness. Deep down inside, they might not want your kid to marry their kid, but they'll fight tooth and nail for increased financial aid on the school board and will crack down on visible signs of racism. See what I mean?

Don’t listen to a word this poster says.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot depends on specific attributes your child has. I have two kids. One child has dark skin, black hair, dark brown eyes and is quiet, very smart, and quite athletic. His teachers and other parents assume he is an average student who is on a scholarship. Even when he scores well on tests and class work some teachers are skeptical at times. Teachers will ask if he needs help or ask if someone did or helped him with homework.

My other son has lighter skin, green eyes, and brown hair with highlights from the sun. He has had a completely different experience from teachers and other parents.

Sounds like implicit bias....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot depends on specific attributes your child has. I have two kids. One child has dark skin, black hair, dark brown eyes and is quiet, very smart, and quite athletic. His teachers and other parents assume he is an average student who is on a scholarship. Even when he scores well on tests and class work some teachers are skeptical at times. Teachers will ask if he needs help or ask if someone did or helped him with homework.

My other son has lighter skin, green eyes, and brown hair with highlights from the sun. He has had a completely different experience from teachers and other parents.

Sounds like implicit bias....

Is this at STA?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, the goys come back and get married in the chapel?! Amazing. Sign me up.

Not.

For those who don’t know
“ goy “ is hate speech used to refer to Christians

Kinda surprised someone would throw that out here , but it only reflects on them

Yes, people do choose a site for their wedding that has meaning for them ....shocking , I know

You are so outdated. You clearly are older and don’t realize no one uses that term. Clearly the poster meant “guys.”

[Anonymous]

Blaming everything on racism is not helpful and is itself prejudice. Would you treat your family the same way as you treat a group of strangers who may have different culture and world views? Do not tell me yo do. You do not! You do not support strangers financially, and you do not even know what is going on with them. If you have prejudice, how can you expect others to not have any? The issue is whether prejudice is institutionalized, not whether it exists.

[Anonymous]

It's not just African American kids at STA who are impacted. Similar experiences for Asian American kids at STA.

[Anonymous]

NCS and STA are very different schools. Since you child is only applying to one, it would make more sense to tell us which one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, the goys come back and get married in the chapel?! Amazing. Sign me up.

Not.

For those who don’t know
“ goy “ is hate speech used to refer to Christians

Kinda surprised someone would throw that out here , but it only reflects on them

Yes, people do choose a site for their wedding that has meaning for them ....shocking , I know

You are so outdated. You clearly are older and don’t realize no one uses that term. Clearly the poster meant “guys.”

Nope. They meant goyim goy. 75% of the white kids in some private schools here are Jewish so don’t cover for the poster citing goy or shiksa out loud.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NCS and STA are very different schools. Since you child is only applying to one, it would make more sense to tell us which one.

yes. NCS is far more progressive. STA is conservative.
They're very different places. It's much easier to be black or Asian or democratic or middle class at NCS (in terms of fitting in with classmates).
I have kids at both.

[Anonymous]

I don’t see the point in this post. There are a plethora of phenomenal school schools in the DMV and if, after I visited and spoke with families whose opinions I respected I still felt the need to seek anonymous advice on DCUM, I wouldn’t bother applying. Why would I subject my child to this if I honestly thought it could be true.

[Anonymous]

Are they racist or are they “racist”. Are they cliquish and snobby, or are they organizing an effort to exclude POC?

I mean, is this “we want merit to matter” kind of racism, or is this “your kind isn’t welcome
here” racism?

Are they simply not woke enough?

Im surprised anyone looking for an all-male education would would also want a whole bunch of race accommodations. I’d think you were ok with different strokes for different folks. I mean if they can segregate by genitalia, you might expect some other segregationist culture to linger.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NCS and STA are very different schools. Since you child is only applying to one, it would make more sense to tell us which one.

yes. NCS is far more progressive. STA is conservative.
They're very different places. It's much easier to be black or Asian or democratic or middle class at NCS (in terms of fitting in with classmates).
I have kids at both.

I think this starts with admissions. From speaking with admissions staff and other parents we got the sense our child was being compared only with kids of the same race. So even if you had two great but very different kids who are black or two great but very different kids who are Asian American they would only admit one of each. It's disgusting.

[Anonymous]

I'm confused. DC has one of the most wealthy and educated black populations of anywhere in America. Where are their kids going to school??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Relax, OP. Racism is everywhere, and the schools you mention are not worse than any of the others.

I believe the worse are diverse public schools in low-to-average-income neighborhoods. Want to know why? Because racism comes from parents. Parents who have kept to their own communities, because of low education and no need for any sort of perception check, will reflexively express the racial or religious stereotypes they have learned from their own parents. Kids go to school and repeat them when they see other kids who don't look like them, and the cycle starts again. No one holds back. And the school administrations do nothing because they are dealing with teen dropouts, families in crisis, and gang-related violence. Racist or religious bullying, by comparison, is not a priority.

Racism is alive and well in the more tony, culturally-exposed circles, be they in public or private schools, but at least it's tempered by a measure of self-reflection and a desire for political correctness. Deep down inside, they might not want your kid to marry their kid, but they'll fight tooth and nail for increased financial aid on the school board and will crack down on visible signs of racism. See what I mean?

"diverse public schools low-to-average-income are worse"
Not true for my DD she seen both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NCS and STA are very different schools. Since you child is only applying to one, it would make more sense to tell us which one.

yes. NCS is far more progressive. STA is conservative.
They're very different places. It's much easier to be black or Asian or democratic or middle class at NCS (in terms of fitting in with classmates).
I have kids at both.

I think this starts with admissions. From speaking with admissions staff and other parents we got the sense our child was being compared only with kids of the same race. So even if you had two great but very different kids who are black or two great but very different kids who are Asian American they would only admit one of each. It's disgusting.

Not our experience at all.