Redshirting? Will there be more this year?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The age difference in K-2nd grade can show up in academics, particularly reading levels, but those differences can be made up. The big impact is in middle school where physical size, emotionaly maturity, and puberty, all play huge roles in kids' academic and emotional well-being.

The teachers and administrators to talk to about the impact of red-shirting are the ones at the middle-school level and not the ones at the elementary school level.

If your kid is not doing well at the end of the kindergarten because they are young for their grade -- repeat it. NBD. If your kid is not doing okay, academically and emotionally, at the end of sixth and seventh grade, then you and your kid are in real trouble, and that trouble will continue for many, many years.

I have a September kid who we sent. They are doing fantastic in middle school. K-2 academics are really watered down. Don't hold your kids back because it is the trendy thing to do and someone else says so. When my child is with younger kids, they act younger. When they are with the right age or older kids, they act older. My child would have been so bored had we held them back academically. If a child has special needs or academic issues, then yes, holding back makes sense but not for the average child. You cannot say your child is immature if they are 5 and you keep them with 3/4 year olds. They are acting the age of the other kids as that is what they are exposed to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The age difference in K-2nd grade can show up in academics, particularly reading levels, but those differences can be made up. The big impact is in middle school where physical size, emotionaly maturity, and puberty, all play huge roles in kids' academic and emotional well-being.

The teachers and administrators to talk to about the impact of red-shirting are the ones at the middle-school level and not the ones at the elementary school level.

If your kid is not doing well at the end of the kindergarten because they are young for their grade -- repeat it. NBD. If your kid is not doing okay, academically and emotionally, at the end of sixth and seventh grade, then you and your kid are in real trouble, and that trouble will continue for many, many years.

I have a September kid who we sent. They are doing fantastic in middle school. K-2 academics are really watered down. Don't hold your kids back because it is the trendy thing to do and someone else says so. When my child is with younger kids, they act younger. When they are with the right age or older kids, they act older. My child would have been so bored had we held them back academically. If a child has special needs or academic issues, then yes, holding back makes sense but not for the average child. You cannot say your child is immature if they are 5 and you keep them with 3/4 year olds. They are acting the age of the other kids as that is what they are exposed to.

So - you are saying don’t send your kid because someone like you says send your kid.

The reality is that there is zero to gain by sending your kid early and literally everything to lose. That makes it easy.

[Anonymous]

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But yes locally I know of a couple kids who turned 5 in August and they did not start kindergarten. In both cases both parents work and the kids are in in-person PreK programs.

I bet the parents of those kids didn't even consider the impact this would have on their December-born classmates, who would now have to put up with a classmate 16 months older than them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm so glad we sent our late July girl to kindergarten on time (yes, on time) in an area with a 9/1 cutoff. She's doing great, loves it and I'm so glad she won't be in a giant class like the next class is bound to be. Her teacher said she never would've guessed she was the youngest in her class.

July shouldn't even be a question to send them.

+1 It would be highly inconsiderate to the December-born kids who would have to put up with a classmate 17 months older than them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The age difference in K-2nd grade can show up in academics, particularly reading levels, but those differences can be made up. The big impact is in middle school where physical size, emotionaly maturity, and puberty, all play huge roles in kids' academic and emotional well-being.

The teachers and administrators to talk to about the impact of red-shirting are the ones at the middle-school level and not the ones at the elementary school level.

If your kid is not doing well at the end of the kindergarten because they are young for their grade -- repeat it. NBD. If your kid is not doing okay, academically and emotionally, at the end of sixth and seventh grade, then you and your kid are in real trouble, and that trouble will continue for many, many years.

I have a September kid who we sent. They are doing fantastic in middle school. K-2 academics are really watered down. Don't hold your kids back because it is the trendy thing to do and someone else says so. When my child is with younger kids, they act younger. When they are with the right age or older kids, they act older. My child would have been so bored had we held them back academically. If a child has special needs or academic issues, then yes, holding back makes sense but not for the average child. You cannot say your child is immature if they are 5 and you keep them with 3/4 year olds. They are acting the age of the other kids as that is what they are exposed to.

So - you are saying don’t send your kid because someone like you says send your kid.

The reality is that there is zero to gain by sending your kid early and literally everything to lose. That makes it easy.

What exactly is everything to lose? We haven't seen any disadvantages. Either the kid is too old for the grade or too young. The gain is our child is happy with the more advanced academics and behavior/social is better as they have examples from their peers vs. being the example. Dumbing down your kid to make everything easy for you and them isn't the answer. Providing them the support and guidance when they need it, is.

There is zero reason to hold your child back except extreme SN.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The age difference in K-2nd grade can show up in academics, particularly reading levels, but those differences can be made up. The big impact is in middle school where physical size, emotionaly maturity, and puberty, all play huge roles in kids' academic and emotional well-being.

The teachers and administrators to talk to about the impact of red-shirting are the ones at the middle-school level and not the ones at the elementary school level.

If your kid is not doing well at the end of the kindergarten because they are young for their grade -- repeat it. NBD. If your kid is not doing okay, academically and emotionally, at the end of sixth and seventh grade, then you and your kid are in real trouble, and that trouble will continue for many, many years.

I have a September kid who we sent. They are doing fantastic in middle school. K-2 academics are really watered down. Don't hold your kids back because it is the trendy thing to do and someone else says so. When my child is with younger kids, they act younger. When they are with the right age or older kids, they act older. My child would have been so bored had we held them back academically. If a child has special needs or academic issues, then yes, holding back makes sense but not for the average child. You cannot say your child is immature if they are 5 and you keep them with 3/4 year olds. They are acting the age of the other kids as that is what they are exposed to.

+1 I definitely that most Fall-born kids are ready to start Kindergarten at 4.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That is insanely old and bizarre.

+1

Isn't that .....second grade age????

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The age difference in K-2nd grade can show up in academics, particularly reading levels, but those differences can be made up. The big impact is in middle school where physical size, emotionaly maturity, and puberty, all play huge roles in kids' academic and emotional well-being.

The teachers and administrators to talk to about the impact of red-shirting are the ones at the middle-school level and not the ones at the elementary school level.

If your kid is not doing well at the end of the kindergarten because they are young for their grade -- repeat it. NBD. If your kid is not doing okay, academically and emotionally, at the end of sixth and seventh grade, then you and your kid are in real trouble, and that trouble will continue for many, many years.

I have a September kid who we sent. They are doing fantastic in middle school. K-2 academics are really watered down. Don't hold your kids back because it is the trendy thing to do and someone else says so. When my child is with younger kids, they act younger. When they are with the right age or older kids, they act older. My child would have been so bored had we held them back academically. If a child has special needs or academic issues, then yes, holding back makes sense but not for the average child. You cannot say your child is immature if they are 5 and you keep them with 3/4 year olds. They are acting the age of the other kids as that is what they are exposed to.

+1 I definitely that most Fall-born kids are ready to start Kindergarten at 4.

Just a because a child is ready for Kindergarten at 4 doesn't mean they'll be ready for college at 17.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The age difference in K-2nd grade can show up in academics, particularly reading levels, but those differences can be made up. The big impact is in middle school where physical size, emotionaly maturity, and puberty, all play huge roles in kids' academic and emotional well-being.

The teachers and administrators to talk to about the impact of red-shirting are the ones at the middle-school level and not the ones at the elementary school level.

If your kid is not doing well at the end of the kindergarten because they are young for their grade -- repeat it. NBD. If your kid is not doing okay, academically and emotionally, at the end of sixth and seventh grade, then you and your kid are in real trouble, and that trouble will continue for many, many years.

I have a September kid who we sent. They are doing fantastic in middle school. K-2 academics are really watered down. Don't hold your kids back because it is the trendy thing to do and someone else says so. When my child is with younger kids, they act younger. When they are with the right age or older kids, they act older. My child would have been so bored had we held them back academically. If a child has special needs or academic issues, then yes, holding back makes sense but not for the average child. You cannot say your child is immature if they are 5 and you keep them with 3/4 year olds. They are acting the age of the other kids as that is what they are exposed to.

+1 I definitely that most Fall-born kids are ready to start Kindergarten at 4.

Just a because a child is ready for Kindergarten at 4 doesn't mean they'll be ready for college at 17.

That makes no sense. Age differences matter less as you get older, not more. The difference between a 4-year-old and a 5-year-old is equivalent to the difference between a 68-year-old and an 85-year-old, while the difference between a 17-year-old and an 18-year-old is equivalent to the difference between a 68-year-old and a 72-year-old, which is obviously smaller. If someone can keep up with 5-year-olds when they're 4, they'll definitely be able to keep up with 18-year-olds when they're 17.

If, however, for some weird reason, they're not ready to start college at 17 despite having been ready for Kindergarten at 4, they can always take a gap year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The age difference in K-2nd grade can show up in academics, particularly reading levels, but those differences can be made up. The big impact is in middle school where physical size, emotionaly maturity, and puberty, all play huge roles in kids' academic and emotional well-being.

The teachers and administrators to talk to about the impact of red-shirting are the ones at the middle-school level and not the ones at the elementary school level.

If your kid is not doing well at the end of the kindergarten because they are young for their grade -- repeat it. NBD. If your kid is not doing okay, academically and emotionally, at the end of sixth and seventh grade, then you and your kid are in real trouble, and that trouble will continue for many, many years.

I have a September kid who we sent. They are doing fantastic in middle school. K-2 academics are really watered down. Don't hold your kids back because it is the trendy thing to do and someone else says so. When my child is with younger kids, they act younger. When they are with the right age or older kids, they act older. My child would have been so bored had we held them back academically. If a child has special needs or academic issues, then yes, holding back makes sense but not for the average child. You cannot say your child is immature if they are 5 and you keep them with 3/4 year olds. They are acting the age of the other kids as that is what they are exposed to.

+1 I definitely that most Fall-born kids are ready to start Kindergarten at 4.

Just a because a child is ready for Kindergarten at 4 doesn't mean they'll be ready for college at 17.

That makes no sense. Age differences matter less as you get older, not more. The difference between a 4-year-old and a 5-year-old is equivalent to the difference between a 68-year-old and an 85-year-old, while the difference between a 17-year-old and an 18-year-old is equivalent to the difference between a 68-year-old and a 72-year-old, which is obviously smaller. If someone can keep up with 5-year-olds when they're 4, they'll definitely be able to keep up with 18-year-olds when they're 17.

If, however, for some weird reason, they're not ready to start college at 17 despite having been ready for Kindergarten at 4, they can always take a gap year.

NP. If my DC isn’t at college after HS, he will get drafted into the Army in our home country. Not every kid can take a gap year.

[Anonymous]

I went to college at 17 and I was definitely too young. My parents were obsessed with me being youngest and smartest too, like so many of the weirdo parents here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I went to college at 17 and I was definitely too young.

Why didn't you just take a gap year after high school? Or once you'd started, why didn't you drop out and come back a year later? In any case, I think starting college the year one turns 17 is too young, but starting at 18 if they're going to turn 18 before the new year really isn't that big of a deal. After all, they'd still be born in the same year as everyone else.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The age difference in K-2nd grade can show up in academics, particularly reading levels, but those differences can be made up. The big impact is in middle school where physical size, emotionaly maturity, and puberty, all play huge roles in kids' academic and emotional well-being.

The teachers and administrators to talk to about the impact of red-shirting are the ones at the middle-school level and not the ones at the elementary school level.

If your kid is not doing well at the end of the kindergarten because they are young for their grade -- repeat it. NBD. If your kid is not doing okay, academically and emotionally, at the end of sixth and seventh grade, then you and your kid are in real trouble, and that trouble will continue for many, many years.

I have a September kid who we sent. They are doing fantastic in middle school. K-2 academics are really watered down. Don't hold your kids back because it is the trendy thing to do and someone else says so. When my child is with younger kids, they act younger. When they are with the right age or older kids, they act older. My child would have been so bored had we held them back academically. If a child has special needs or academic issues, then yes, holding back makes sense but not for the average child. You cannot say your child is immature if they are 5 and you keep them with 3/4 year olds. They are acting the age of the other kids as that is what they are exposed to.

+1 I definitely that most Fall-born kids are ready to start Kindergarten at 4.

Just a because a child is ready for Kindergarten at 4 doesn't mean they'll be ready for college at 17.

That makes no sense. Age differences matter less as you get older, not more. The difference between a 4-year-old and a 5-year-old is equivalent to the difference between a 68-year-old and an 85-year-old, while the difference between a 17-year-old and an 18-year-old is equivalent to the difference between a 68-year-old and a 72-year-old, which is obviously smaller. If someone can keep up with 5-year-olds when they're 4, they'll definitely be able to keep up with 18-year-olds when they're 17.

If, however, for some weird reason, they're not ready to start college at 17 despite having been ready for Kindergarten at 4, they can always take a gap year.

NP. If my DC isn’t at college after HS, he will get drafted into the Army in our home country. Not every kid can take a gap year.

1) what country are you from?
2) naturalize your kid and fack that draft

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Many of those kids will stay in their child care centers, which will offer a class for the five-year-olds in person. Those kids will start next year in first grade, not kindergarten.

Yep this will be my DS. He has a late summer birthday and the cutoff in VA is September. He's the youngest one in his pre-K class and not ready for virtual school according to his teacher. We agree.

[Anonymous]

I sent my July birthday kid late, with a Sept 1 cutoff there isn't 17 month age difference in the grade. All the teachers encouraged giving the gift of time and I have never had a regret. I could not care less what any parent thinks of my kid being a few months older than any other kid.