What the Fall may look like -- the hybrid model

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When the second wave hits in October everything will shut down again. You will have two months of hybrid tops.

No. Stop fearmongering.

Going pretty well in other countries. No outbreaks after over a month.
https://news.yahoo.com/reopening-schools-denmark-did-not-125523543.html

Exactly. This madness has got to stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When the second wave hits in October everything will shut down again. You will have two months of hybrid tops.

No. Stop fearmongering.

Going pretty well in other countries. No outbreaks after over a month.
https://news.yahoo.com/reopening-schools-denmark-did-not-125523543.html

Exactly. This madness has got to stop.

This article discusses the risks of opening now, but it seems that the UK thinks Sept is a fairly good bet for reopening. And they appear to have similar rates (or higher?) than we do.
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/may/28/reopening-english-schools-on-monday-could-lead-to-new-surge

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When the second wave hits in October everything will shut down again. You will have two months of hybrid tops.

No. Stop fearmongering.

Going pretty well in other countries. No outbreaks after over a month.
https://news.yahoo.com/reopening-schools-denmark-did-not-125523543.html

And this is how schools are operating currently in Denmark:

Twice a day, all desks are cleaned with disinfectant, and they also clean door handles, playgrounds and other critical areas.

Arrivals and departures are staggered in year groups, so the children come into school in ones.

Children have been told to arrive with thoroughly washed hands, and must wash hands and use the hand sanitisers that are placed at entrances and in classrooms.

Children with symptoms need to stay home for 48 hours. Children who come to school with symptoms are sent home immediately.

Staff are limited to working with only one or two classes and restricted to certain buildings.

Each class is divided into two classrooms, and some are using outside areas.

Support and subject teachers are helping class teachers to cover the two rooms, and most of the part-time staff are now working full-time.

Classes take turns to go out to play in restricted areas as the children play only with those in the same class.

All children need to be self-sufficient for the whole day bringing their packed lunch, drink and pencil case as they can't borrow anything from anyone else.

Parents and visitors are not allowed on the school premises at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When the second wave hits in October everything will shut down again. You will have two months of hybrid tops.

No. Stop fearmongering.

Going pretty well in other countries. No outbreaks after over a month.
https://news.yahoo.com/reopening-schools-denmark-did-not-125523543.html

And this is how schools are operating currently in Denmark:

Twice a day, all desks are cleaned with disinfectant, and they also clean door handles, playgrounds and other critical areas.

Arrivals and departures are staggered in year groups, so the children come into school in ones.

Children have been told to arrive with thoroughly washed hands, and must wash hands and use the hand sanitisers that are placed at entrances and in classrooms.

Children with symptoms need to stay home for 48 hours. Children who come to school with symptoms are sent home immediately.

Staff are limited to working with only one or two classes and restricted to certain buildings.

Each class is divided into two classrooms, and some are using outside areas.

Support and subject teachers are helping class teachers to cover the two rooms, and most of the part-time staff are now working full-time.

Classes take turns to go out to play in restricted areas as the children play only with those in the same class.

All children need to be self-sufficient for the whole day bringing their packed lunch, drink and pencil case as they can't borrow anything from anyone else.

Parents and visitors are not allowed on the school premises at all.

Yes, and this video makes it look pretty doable to me. Those kids look happy to me.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2020/05/21/denmark-schools-reopening-safety-measures-pleitgen-newday-pkg-vpx.cnn

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC's reopening plan is here:
https://cdn.flipsnack.com/widget/v2/flipsnackwidget.html?hash=funqraelc&t=&fullscreen=1

On page 19 there is a chart by sector, for K-12 education Phase 1 is “distance learning only” and Phase 2 and 3 are lumped together. In terms of when they expect to change phases, Phase 1 is “Declining virus transmission” and will start on Friday, Phase 2 is “Only localized transmission” and the Mayor said could happen by August 10.

On page 32 there is specific guidance for K-12 schools. The things that jump out at me are a limit of 10 people in a classroom at a time, strict physical distancing and enhanced cleaning. Pages 34-38 are “Recommended Safeguards” for schools.

Phase 4 is a vaccine or a cure.

Bowser has said that DC is going to coordinate with MD and VA in the DC region.

Independent schools can be stricter but they can't be less strict than the guidelines.

Thanks for that link. Our school head said ‘we won’t necessarily follow what the DC public schools opt to do, but we will absolutely follow the public health guidelines as a minimum’. I think this really indicates that ‘full classes school’ is highly unlikely barring a near miraculous decrease in cases.

Full classes can't happen until phase 4, which is a vaccine or a cure. A"near miraculous decrease in cases" would be phase 3 which would still be hybrid model.

That not true at all. Read the source material again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This article discusses the risks of opening now, but it seems that the UK thinks Sept is a fairly good bet for reopening. And they appear to have similar rates (or higher?) than we do.
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/may/28/reopening-english-schools-on-monday-could-lead-to-new-surge

Bear in mind that the UK's response so far has been every bit as craptastic as that of the Federal government, so what they think may not be the best guide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When the second wave hits in October everything will shut down again. You will have two months of hybrid tops.

No. Stop fearmongering.

Going pretty well in other countries. No outbreaks after over a month.
https://news.yahoo.com/reopening-schools-denmark-did-not-125523543.html

And this is how schools are operating currently in Denmark:

Twice a day, all desks are cleaned with disinfectant, and they also clean door handles, playgrounds and other critical areas.

Arrivals and departures are staggered in year groups, so the children come into school in ones.

Children have been told to arrive with thoroughly washed hands, and must wash hands and use the hand sanitisers that are placed at entrances and in classrooms.

Children with symptoms need to stay home for 48 hours. Children who come to school with symptoms are sent home immediately.

Staff are limited to working with only one or two classes and restricted to certain buildings.

Each class is divided into two classrooms, and some are using outside areas.

Support and subject teachers are helping class teachers to cover the two rooms, and most of the part-time staff are now working full-time.

Classes take turns to go out to play in restricted areas as the children play only with those in the same class.

All children need to be self-sufficient for the whole day bringing their packed lunch, drink and pencil case as they can't borrow anything from anyone else.

Parents and visitors are not allowed on the school premises at all.

How are they handling high school, where students have a different teacher for every class, and many classes include students from multiple grades?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When the second wave hits in October everything will shut down again. You will have two months of hybrid tops.

No. Stop fearmongering.

Going pretty well in other countries. No outbreaks after over a month.
https://news.yahoo.com/reopening-schools-denmark-did-not-125523543.html

And this is how schools are operating currently in Denmark:

Twice a day, all desks are cleaned with disinfectant, and they also clean door handles, playgrounds and other critical areas.

Arrivals and departures are staggered in year groups, so the children come into school in ones.

Children have been told to arrive with thoroughly washed hands, and must wash hands and use the hand sanitisers that are placed at entrances and in classrooms.

Children with symptoms need to stay home for 48 hours. Children who come to school with symptoms are sent home immediately.

Staff are limited to working with only one or two classes and restricted to certain buildings.

Each class is divided into two classrooms, and some are using outside areas.

Support and subject teachers are helping class teachers to cover the two rooms, and most of the part-time staff are now working full-time.

Classes take turns to go out to play in restricted areas as the children play only with those in the same class.

All children need to be self-sufficient for the whole day bringing their packed lunch, drink and pencil case as they can't borrow anything from anyone else.

Parents and visitors are not allowed on the school premises at all.

How are they handling high school, where students have a different teacher for every class, and many classes include students from multiple grades?

High School in Europe doesn't work the same way as it does in this country (source: I went to one). They don't mix up the grades in the same way and they generally don't have a catalog of courses in the way we do. It is, therefore, rather easier to manage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How are they handling high school, where students have a different teacher for every class, and many classes include students from multiple grades?

High School in Europe doesn't work the same way as it does in this country (source: I went to one). They don't mix up the grades in the same way and they generally don't have a catalog of courses in the way we do. It is, therefore, rather easier to manage.

Thanks, makes sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC's reopening plan is here:
https://cdn.flipsnack.com/widget/v2/flipsnackwidget.html?hash=funqraelc&t=&fullscreen=1

On page 19 there is a chart by sector, for K-12 education Phase 1 is “distance learning only” and Phase 2 and 3 are lumped together. In terms of when they expect to change phases, Phase 1 is “Declining virus transmission” and will start on Friday, Phase 2 is “Only localized transmission” and the Mayor said could happen by August 10.

On page 32 there is specific guidance for K-12 schools. The things that jump out at me are a limit of 10 people in a classroom at a time, strict physical distancing and enhanced cleaning. Pages 34-38 are “Recommended Safeguards” for schools.

Phase 4 is a vaccine or a cure.

Bowser has said that DC is going to coordinate with MD and VA in the DC region.

Independent schools can be stricter but they can't be less strict than the guidelines.

Thanks for that link. Our school head said ‘we won’t necessarily follow what the DC public schools opt to do, but we will absolutely follow the public health guidelines as a minimum’. I think this really indicates that ‘full classes school’ is highly unlikely barring a near miraculous decrease in cases.

Full classes can't happen until phase 4, which is a vaccine or a cure. A"near miraculous decrease in cases" would be phase 3 which would still be hybrid model.

That not true at all. Read the source material again.

Page 19.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When the second wave hits in October everything will shut down again. You will have two months of hybrid tops.

No. Stop fearmongering.

Going pretty well in other countries. No outbreaks after over a month.
https://news.yahoo.com/reopening-schools-denmark-did-not-125523543.html

Exactly. This madness has got to stop.

This article discusses the risks of opening now, but it seems that the UK thinks Sept is a fairly good bet for reopening. And they appear to have similar rates (or higher?) than we do.
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/may/28/reopening-english-schools-on-monday-could-lead-to-new-surge

UK schools are reopening next week, in June, for a 2 month session (they go year round with many long "spring breaks").

You self-selectively posted an OpEd from the Independent Sage Group, selected by The Guardian who seems stupid to the only fact here, which is the Independent Sage group is run by a former politician/School super who now owns and operates an online education firm. We've been making fun of gramps all month.

- A Brit

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC's reopening plan is here:
https://cdn.flipsnack.com/widget/v2/flipsnackwidget.html?hash=funqraelc&t=&fullscreen=1

On page 19 there is a chart by sector, for K-12 education Phase 1 is “distance learning only” and Phase 2 and 3 are lumped together. In terms of when they expect to change phases, Phase 1 is “Declining virus transmission” and will start on Friday, Phase 2 is “Only localized transmission” and the Mayor said could happen by August 10.

On page 32 there is specific guidance for K-12 schools. The things that jump out at me are a limit of 10 people in a classroom at a time, strict physical distancing and enhanced cleaning. Pages 34-38 are “Recommended Safeguards” for schools.

Phase 4 is a vaccine or a cure.

Bowser has said that DC is going to coordinate with MD and VA in the DC region.

Independent schools can be stricter but they can't be less strict than the guidelines.

THIS IS NOT WASH DC'S RE-OPENING PLAN AT ALL.

THIS IS MERELY ONE CONSULTANTS RECOMMENDATION RE-POSTED HERE.

It already conflicts with what's re-opening this Friday in Wash DC so disregard it. It also conflicts greatly with the VA, MD and several other states, particularly in regards to groups of 10 not phasing out earlier.

No dice PP. If you were in my literacy class you'd get an F for lack of reading comp and for conflating opinion with approved legislation. Always footnoting things also helps catch errors like this, as does being less reliant on random Google searches.

[Anonymous]

It's not just Sage but many local councils and parents are saying no to reopening and to ignore Boris.

"U.K.'s Boris Johnson faces schools rebellion over plans to send kids back"

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u-k-s-boris-johnson-faces-schools-rebellion-over-plans-n1215411

- Also a Brit.

[Anonymous]

Thank goodness our school is in MD and can reopen much earlier than in DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When the second wave hits in October everything will shut down again. You will have two months of hybrid tops.

No. Stop fearmongering.

Going pretty well in other countries. No outbreaks after over a month.
https://news.yahoo.com/reopening-schools-denmark-did-not-125523543.html

And this is how schools are operating currently in Denmark:

Twice a day, all desks are cleaned with disinfectant, and they also clean door handles, playgrounds and other critical areas.

Arrivals and departures are staggered in year groups, so the children come into school in ones.

Children have been told to arrive with thoroughly washed hands, and must wash hands and use the hand sanitisers that are placed at entrances and in classrooms.

Children with symptoms need to stay home for 48 hours. Children who come to school with symptoms are sent home immediately.

Staff are limited to working with only one or two classes and restricted to certain buildings.

Each class is divided into two classrooms, and some are using outside areas.

Support and subject teachers are helping class teachers to cover the two rooms, and most of the part-time staff are now working full-time.

Classes take turns to go out to play in restricted areas as the children play only with those in the same class.

All children need to be self-sufficient for the whole day bringing their packed lunch, drink and pencil case as they can't borrow anything from anyone else.

Parents and visitors are not allowed on the school premises at all.

Yes, and this video makes it look pretty doable to me. Those kids look happy to me.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2020/05/21/denmark-schools-reopening-safety-measures-pleitgen-newday-pkg-vpx.cnn

Yep. And no masks!