What the Fall may look like -- the hybrid model

[Anonymous]

Big implications if true.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Big implications if true.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html

Agree.
Can only catch it if and when an infected person is suffering from symptoms.

[Anonymous]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/09/health/who-coronavirus-asymptomatic-spread-bn/index.html

And the statement from yesterday was misleading, so now they clarify.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve been reading quite a bit in the education press and in taking to some of our administrators about what the Fall might look like. From what I’ve gathered so far, it appears there are probably three options for the Fall: back to normal, distance learning, or a hybrid of the two. At this point most of the planning seems to be directed at a hybrid model.

I’m not saying this is the best or worst, just trying to create an outline of what might be the case this Fall, and welcome any other comments you might have heard from your school or administration. If you want to talk about Sweden, Malaria Pills, the Hoax, Trump, etc—please find the political forum and go at it over there so other parents can use this thread to help plan for the Fall.

The Hybrid Model:

Schools may start in early- or mid-August and go through Thanksgiving. There will be no Fall break, and any professional/training days for teachers may be pushed until after the holiday dismissal. There will be no in-person parent-teacher conferences, back to school events, or other social/academic gatherings to start the term.

Schools will reopen on a staggered schedule. This will either mean daily 1/2 days for all students (some AM, some PM) or more likely some kids at home one day and at school the next. Classes will be split into two sections. The kids at home would tune into class digitally while the other section attends the in-school lessons. Some families will have the option of all online school if for some reason they need to stay extra safe (elderly in the home, immunocompromised family member). One administrator suggested the sections would be geographically based to minimize bus/carpool arrangements, but added that it might be too complicated to coordinate.

No large assemblies in school. No chapel services for religious schools. Students will eat in their classrooms. Libraries opened on a rotating schedule or individual visits. Different grades will be on different class movement schedules so they don’t mix in the hallways. No after school care. After school athletics and physical education limited to social distance appropriate activities. No locker rooms. Children will be allowed to use the restrooms individually during class to avoid grouping up between classes.

Any other insight?

The bucket you mostly described is Opening and minimizing contact, which is what every state requires to reopen.
If $hit hits the fan and there is a national emergency, then you can layer in distance learning.

OP , you have basically outlined the DC task force re-open plan , but posed it as a what do you people think question .
This is soon to be public policy

Fortunately , it will be temporary, but if you look to the Universities who need to take in tuition and have students in campus, stayi g home and hiding under the covers is NOT an option unless you plan to home school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My question about a hybrid model is about staffing. Do schools hire twice as many teachers or are they expecting teachers to expose themselves to the same
Number of children pre-pandemic? These ideas about teachers floating in to a static student group still scare me as a parent. Whose to say one teacher doesn’t pick up something from one student group and pass it to another?

If that is how you feel, you will likely need/want to keep your child home, which will likely be an option. Honestly, I think your fears are pretty unfounded given the regulations that will have to be followed and how rare it is for children to get seriously ill from the virus, even if they get it. I think our biggest enemy is fear, to be honest. Google to see what they are doing in Denmark. It is going very well, and they are not even wearing masks.

The teachers are the ones far more at risk here, and they will be asked to expose themselves to everyone and be there 5 days a week.[/quot


Yeah, like Nurses and Doctors were exposed in March and April

And like Grocery store check out clerks, postal workers , trash collectors and cops were since March

Sooner or later everyone becomes essential and needs to do their part per their profession and contribution to society

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It really will vary based on the size and physical structure of the schools. Micro schools probably won't have to change much at all, for example.

Some schools are small enough and have enough space such that a few of those ideas are not needed, like splitting classes, staggering days, and having lunch in the classroom.

In a small grade where everyone takes the same classes, I could actually see combining some classes and using auditoriums for them to free up other classrooms for smaller sections of upper school classes. I can think of five areas in our school large enough to hold an appropriately distanced whole grade with the teachers rotating into the space. All of those spaces have direct exits to the outdoors too, so they wouldn't have to mingle in the hallways at all and could easily get outdoor free time. This frees up all the classroom for the grades where the students all have different classes and schedules (high school).

Also, keeping kids out of the halls and moving teachers around as much as possible would help a lot. Where changing classrooms is necessary (labs and specials come to mind), the hallway schedule idea is a good one, and you'd only have to alter the schedules by a few minutes.

Hopefully, weather will allow outdoor classrooms to be used more too.

OP here. Yes, the idea of all-purpose rooms being repurposed to mega-classrooms was also something discussed. At our kids school the facilities are simply too small to have the normal number of kids in a social-distanced environment, but an older gym could become a mega-classroom that could fit an entire grade or two (boy that would be noisy and distracting though). I suspect a number of schools are looking at some bigger rooms that could be repurposed as classrooms relatively easily.

Mega classrooms of students would t following the groups of 10 Or 15 or 20 rule some states may not lift.
Plus that makes contact tracing difficult, thus lean toward total shutdown of school if you’re intermingling large groups.

Remember folks : for many of kids don’t go back to school / parents can’t go back to work so it’s time to do it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This will all be over in two months. There may be a trickle of severe cases but that’s it.

Take a look at the curves for the Spanish Flu. We are still on the rise of the first hump.

k, thanks

Yes, but the medical profession and pharmaceutical industry are way different than they were 100 years ago, and there was no biotech. Already, Covid is less deadly because doctors are figuring out how to treat it more effectively, and two firms are already at Phase 3 of vaccine testing. That's not to say there won't be spikes until the vaccine is ready for the general public, but I think there won't be a NY-type situation again, and the death rate will be lower overall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Thank you, OP.

The hybrid model is the optimistic scenario for private schools.

Public schools will have difficulty implementing it because they are overcrowded (some incredibly so), so splitting up the student body to maintain physical distancing will be challenging. With this in mind, private schools will certainly face a certain amount of pressure if they open, however carefully, and public schools remain in distance learning.

Just giving some context here.


Meanwhile, it was solved by April how we could all Grocery shop and buy wine at the Liquor store

Hair salons have found a way to re-open

Schools are more essential than BOTH of those .

Time to boot up and get the kids back to school . Honestly, we can send people to the Moon and split the Atom , but can’t come together on getting a kindergartner into a classroom in front of a teacher

Get to work on it already !

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Big implications if true.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html

Agree.
Can only catch it if and when an infected person is suffering from symptoms.

So you “agree” with a misleading news report of one comment during a long press conference?

Many experts immediately questioned this statement as not backed up with evidence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Thank you, OP.

The hybrid model is the optimistic scenario for private schools.

Public schools will have difficulty implementing it because they are overcrowded (some incredibly so), so splitting up the student body to maintain physical distancing will be challenging. With this in mind, private schools will certainly face a certain amount of pressure if they open, however carefully, and public schools remain in distance learning.

Just giving some context here.


Meanwhile, it was solved by April how we could all Grocery shop and buy wine at the Liquor store

Hair salons have found a way to re-open

Schools are more essential than BOTH of those .

Time to boot up and get the kids back to school . Honestly, we can send people to the Moon and split the Atom , but can’t come together on getting a kindergartner into a classroom in front of a teacher

Get to work on it already !

+10000

Protester data will show minor blip, nothing major. No excuses for throttling down Numbers healthy kids and teachers, and continuing to shaft their education and learning.

[Anonymous]

Our school has sketched out a parent communication deadline of July 15. They have several tasks forces working on different subjects coming up with ideas, like the library and assemblies, hallways and public areas, and in-classroom activities task forces. They're to report to the heads at the end of the month and we'll get a signoff about a week later or so.

I think the idea of weeks (plural) at a time in school vs. at home is more likely than a day-by-day or even one week on one week off. The idea was to give parents more time to schedule and arrange things. There was still a debate about an entire class being (i.e. all sections of a grade) coming at the same time or breaking class into two one home and one away. The rationale is we have a number of kids with siblings and it would be better if all kids in a family were home / at school at the same time to minimize transmission, but that's still being debated.

It also looks like families will be given a full-time stay at home option if needed, for families with elderly in residence or essential workers, etc.

But nothing is finalized just yet. Been a ton of zooms and emails flying despite the school year being "over".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My question about a hybrid model is about staffing. Do schools hire twice as many teachers or are they expecting teachers to expose themselves to the same
Number of children pre-pandemic? These ideas about teachers floating in to a static student group still scare me as a parent. Whose to say one teacher doesn’t pick up something from one student group and pass it to another?

If that is how you feel, you will likely need/want to keep your child home, which will likely be an option. Honestly, I think your fears are pretty unfounded given the regulations that will have to be followed and how rare it is for children to get seriously ill from the virus, even if they get it. I think our biggest enemy is fear, to be honest. Google to see what they are doing in Denmark. It is going very well, and they are not even wearing masks.

The teachers are the ones far more at risk here, and they will be asked to expose themselves to everyone and be there 5 days a week.

The teachers in Germany seem to be doing just fine

I for one think simpler is better:

Divide student body in half and half attend 8-12/ other half 12:00-4pm

Eat lunch when you get home / before coming

Just the Academics and eliminate PE/ Specials to make class day schedules simpler to manage ( heck ride your bike to school)

That way, everyone gets social time at school everyday and is off the damn computer

And teachers lives aren’t made impossible

Not perfect, but we can do that for a year

What you people should be up in arms about is EU has already secured contract for 400 million doses of the vaccine and US has no contract and seems our vaccine infrastructure looks a lot like our Feb testing f’ up and PPE loss of supply chain f’up