DC: First COVID-19 Case Confirmed

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https://www.popville.com/2020/03/dc-department-of-health-exposures-covid-19-georgetown-church-coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR05S9VVfz5bwJLMELhV0T1iWTPoSRzDpVutlidUZFU33_RQaXy1HBL7RV4

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Most common symptoms (based on the data out of China)

Fever, fatigue, dry cough, loss of appetite, muscle aches, shortness of breath starting around day 5 and respiratory symptoms progressing fairly rapidly with presentation to hospital with respiratory concerns typically about day 7.

Least common symptoms (less than 10% of cases):
Dizziness, nausea, vomiting, headaches, diarrhea, abdominal pain, runny nose, sore throat, coughing up sputum / blood.

Sources: Wang et al ( n = 138), Chen et al ( n = 99), and Huang et al ( n = 41). All found similar symptom profiles.

I am very suspicious my DS had this in early February as did many kids at school. Lots of absences. Like events cancelled because too many participants were out sick. And email notices that kid would be absent bounced back because the person you sent it to was out sick. My DC's symptoms: out of nowhere high fever, chills, exhausted, slept for over a day, aches, dry cough, dizzy, slight soar throat. Strep and flu tests were negative. It did not progress to respiratory, though the dry cough lingered. I rarely take this kid to the doctor for a sick visit. Glad I did, as it is in the records and I'm sure every office is reviewing their cases histories.

I know a mom with younger kids in Colorado who said in mid February, the entire family and in laws had high fevers (104) for almost a week and all tested negative for flu. Now she's wondering if they had covid and nobody knew.

Yeah, it’s a week of fever that’s why Italy is shutting down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:source of this Christ Church Georgetown info?

So the guy likely went to GW, GT or Sibley. I’d like to know which one and if he went in through the ER. My husband was at one of these hospital ERs yesterday.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That press conference wasn’t very reassuring.

It disgusted me. It makes no logical sense to bother with tracing on the hospitalized male who tested positive, yet refuse to test segments of the population that likely would test positive. No, we will just send them home and pretend they are negative and not worry about their tracing.

And not one of those officials seem sympathetic to the patients at all. The one doctor was just smirking.

Didn’t watch the presser - are they even contact tracing for this guy or nah? Sounds like he was out and about from last week until he was hospitalized this wk so I’m thinking they’d like to know where he works, if he went in, did he go places on the weekend etc?

Also different question — where was the AIPAC event? Was there a conference hotel?

There is also a LOT of privilege being used here. For example, the Rockville people who, at first tried to have it concealed " travelled to an unknown location " claiming privacy until Maryland Board of Health released it to the press that they had been on a cruise in Egypt and that one of them had visited a Nursing home in Rockville post return. The MD DOH released the name of that Nursing home as rightly they should.

Same should happen with the " individual " who was at CPAC and AIPAC who " later visited a school in PA. Given this person's travel and appearances it is likely a politician. I am not saying name the person, but come on.... be smart and post in press everywhere this person went .

Then, they should really shut down these conventions, political rallies and perhaps people over age 60 should not mingle in public , but stay home

Healthy children, teens, go to school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most common symptoms (based on the data out of China)

Fever, fatigue, dry cough, loss of appetite, muscle aches, shortness of breath starting around day 5 and respiratory symptoms progressing fairly rapidly with presentation to hospital with respiratory concerns typically about day 7.

Least common symptoms (less than 10% of cases):
Dizziness, nausea, vomiting, headaches, diarrhea, abdominal pain, runny nose, sore throat, coughing up sputum / blood.

Sources: Wang et al ( n = 138), Chen et al ( n = 99), and Huang et al ( n = 41). All found similar symptom profiles.

I am very suspicious my DS had this in early February as did many kids at school. Lots of absences. Like events cancelled because too many participants were out sick. And email notices that kid would be absent bounced back because the person you sent it to was out sick. My DC's symptoms: out of nowhere high fever, chills, exhausted, slept for over a day, aches, dry cough, dizzy, slight soar throat. Strep and flu tests were negative. It did not progress to respiratory, though the dry cough lingered. I rarely take this kid to the doctor for a sick visit. Glad I did, as it is in the records and I'm sure every office is reviewing their cases histories.

I know a mom with younger kids in Colorado who said in mid February, the entire family and in laws had high fevers (104) for almost a week and all tested negative for flu. Now she's wondering if they had covid and nobody knew. [/]

Two of my kids and lots of other kids we know had a virus in Jan/Feb that was negative for both flu strains but knocked the kid out for a week and the main feature was a sudden and sustained high fever, sleeping all day, muscle aches.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Patients are most contagious when showing symptoms, they are now saying

Is this new? This is where it started like 6 wks ago for those of us who were following then and then it became - oh no asymptomatic spread totally happens. Where did you hear/read this?

Me again. It's coming from the CDC.

Can someone spread the virus without being sick?

People are thought to be most contagious when they are most symptomatic (the sickest).
Some spread might be possible before people show symptoms; there have been reports of this occurring with this new coronavirus, but this is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads.

This is a CYA statement. They don’t want to test broadly because they don’t have the tests and/or they don’t want the number of positive cases to increase.

“Thought to be”, “not thought” is not based on science.

[Anonymous]

Can I edge in here to ask possibly a dumb but sincere question?

If you get diagnosed (or not but Covid-19 coronavirus) and then recover are you immune from getting it again?

So these PPs illustrated above/children. Could they now be immune? I was also very sick in Feb w a weird set of flu like symptoms, tested neg for flu, had a flu vax, spent one week in bed, weak and coughing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most common symptoms (based on the data out of China)

Fever, fatigue, dry cough, loss of appetite, muscle aches, shortness of breath starting around day 5 and respiratory symptoms progressing fairly rapidly with presentation to hospital with respiratory concerns typically about day 7.

Least common symptoms (less than 10% of cases):
Dizziness, nausea, vomiting, headaches, diarrhea, abdominal pain, runny nose, sore throat, coughing up sputum / blood.

Sources: Wang et al ( n = 138), Chen et al ( n = 99), and Huang et al ( n = 41). All found similar symptom profiles.

I am very suspicious my DS had this in early February as did many kids at school. Lots of absences. Like events cancelled because too many participants were out sick. And email notices that kid would be absent bounced back because the person you sent it to was out sick. My DC's symptoms: out of nowhere high fever, chills, exhausted, slept for over a day, aches, dry cough, dizzy, slight soar throat. Strep and flu tests were negative. It did not progress to respiratory, though the dry cough lingered. I rarely take this kid to the doctor for a sick visit. Glad I did, as it is in the records and I'm sure every office is reviewing their cases histories.

I know a mom with younger kids in Colorado who said in mid February, the entire family and in laws had high fevers (104) for almost a week and all tested negative for flu. Now she's wondering if they had covid and nobody knew. [/]

Two of my kids and lots of other kids we know had a virus in Jan/Feb that was negative for both flu strains but knocked the kid out for a week and the main feature was a sudden and sustained high fever, sleeping all day, muscle aches.

I am school nurse and I + 1,000 this. Actually, since November/ Dec we have had lots of kids with fever , head ache , GI upset test neg for Flu and Strep

The second indicator is that the only deaths so far are in Nursing homes.... it needed some time to get there and settle in... likely months spreading in our country undetected ( kids only get mildly sick ) until it reached its vulnerable population in Nursing homes and people started calling 911 in clusters... that got the Fire Chief to call DOH in Washington State

So why are we just focused on schools ? These are healthy kids who only get a mild illness.

Stop the Cruise ships. Stop the political rallies and close sports to spectators. Continue to educate young healthy people.

[Anonymous]

How would you stop political rallies when a substantial proportion of the population thinks that the virus is a hoax?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can I edge in here to ask possibly a dumb but sincere question?

If you get diagnosed (or not but Covid-19 coronavirus) and then recover are you immune from getting it again?

So these PPs illustrated above/children. Could they now be immune? I was also very sick in Feb w a weird set of flu like symptoms, tested neg for flu, had a flu vax, spent one week in bed, weak and coughing.

This is not easily answerable because we don't have good data.

There have been cases claiming to be reinfected, there has also been a case of a person 'cured' and sent home only to die from it a few days later. Most scientists think that you should develop immunities (like many other diseases) but there are these individual reports that are giving them pause. Testing is so inaccurate worldwide that someone testing 'negative' or 'positive' is kind of suspect in some places.

Basically, too early to answer that question with perfect confidence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most common symptoms (based on the data out of China)

Fever, fatigue, dry cough, loss of appetite, muscle aches, shortness of breath starting around day 5 and respiratory symptoms progressing fairly rapidly with presentation to hospital with respiratory concerns typically about day 7.

Least common symptoms (less than 10% of cases):
Dizziness, nausea, vomiting, headaches, diarrhea, abdominal pain, runny nose, sore throat, coughing up sputum / blood.

Sources: Wang et al ( n = 138), Chen et al ( n = 99), and Huang et al ( n = 41). All found similar symptom profiles.

I am very suspicious my DS had this in early February as did many kids at school. Lots of absences. Like events cancelled because too many participants were out sick. And email notices that kid would be absent bounced back because the person you sent it to was out sick. My DC's symptoms: out of nowhere high fever, chills, exhausted, slept for over a day, aches, dry cough, dizzy, slight soar throat. Strep and flu tests were negative. It did not progress to respiratory, though the dry cough lingered. I rarely take this kid to the doctor for a sick visit. Glad I did, as it is in the records and I'm sure every office is reviewing their cases histories.

Same here, my entire family got sick within 1 day. Fevers of kids and adults from 103-105. All of us were tested and only one adult got a positive Flu A test. I was told that this year's flu tests have a large rate of false negatives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can I edge in here to ask possibly a dumb but sincere question?

If you get diagnosed (or not but Covid-19 coronavirus) and then recover are you immune from getting it again?

So these PPs illustrated above/children. Could they now be immune? I was also very sick in Feb w a weird set of flu like symptoms, tested neg for flu, had a flu vax, spent one week in bed, weak and coughing.

This is not easily answerable because we don't have good data.

There have been cases claiming to be reinfected, there has also been a case of a person 'cured' and sent home only to die from it a few days later. Most scientists think that you should develop immunities (like many other diseases) but there are these individual reports that are giving them pause. Testing is so inaccurate worldwide that someone testing 'negative' or 'positive' is kind of suspect in some places.

Basically, too early to answer that question with perfect confidence.

Hey, thanks. As my DS would say, "you're cool." I appreciate the reasonable response.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can I edge in here to ask possibly a dumb but sincere question?

If you get diagnosed (or not but Covid-19 coronavirus) and then recover are you immune from getting it again?

So these PPs illustrated above/children. Could they now be immune? I was also very sick in Feb w a weird set of flu like symptoms, tested neg for flu, had a flu vax, spent one week in bed, weak and coughing.

Dr. Fauci said at the WH news conference that someone would have immunity after having the virus.

Q And one more technical question. Have you determined whether there are any variants of this virus so that a person who may have gotten it, and then gotten over it, could get it again?

DR. FAUCI: No, there’s no indication that that’s going on at all. If this virus acts like other viruses — which I have no reason to believe it won’t — once you’ve gotten infected and recovered, you’re not going to get infected with the same virus.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-members-coronavirus-task-force-press-conference-2/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most common symptoms (based on the data out of China)

Fever, fatigue, dry cough, loss of appetite, muscle aches, shortness of breath starting around day 5 and respiratory symptoms progressing fairly rapidly with presentation to hospital with respiratory concerns typically about day 7.

Least common symptoms (less than 10% of cases):
Dizziness, nausea, vomiting, headaches, diarrhea, abdominal pain, runny nose, sore throat, coughing up sputum / blood.

Sources: Wang et al ( n = 138), Chen et al ( n = 99), and Huang et al ( n = 41). All found similar symptom profiles.

I am very suspicious my DS had this in early February as did many kids at school. Lots of absences. Like events cancelled because too many participants were out sick. And email notices that kid would be absent bounced back because the person you sent it to was out sick. My DC's symptoms: out of nowhere high fever, chills, exhausted, slept for over a day, aches, dry cough, dizzy, slight soar throat. Strep and flu tests were negative. It did not progress to respiratory, though the dry cough lingered. I rarely take this kid to the doctor for a sick visit. Glad I did, as it is in the records and I'm sure every office is reviewing their cases histories.

Same here, my entire family got sick within 1 day. Fevers of kids and adults from 103-105. All of us were tested and only one adult got a positive Flu A test. I was told that this year's flu tests have a large rate of false negatives.

O RLY??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That press conference wasn’t very reassuring.

It disgusted me. It makes no logical sense to bother with tracing on the hospitalized male who tested positive, yet refuse to test segments of the population that likely would test positive. No, we will just send them home and pretend they are negative and not worry about their tracing.

And not one of those officials seem sympathetic to the patients at all. The one doctor was just smirking.

Didn’t watch the presser - are they even contact tracing for this guy or nah? Sounds like he was out and about from last week until he was hospitalized this wk so I’m thinking they’d like to know where he works, if he went in, did he go places on the weekend etc?

Also different question — where was the AIPAC event? Was there a conference hotel?

There is also a LOT of privilege being used here. For example, the Rockville people who, at first tried to have it concealed " travelled to an unknown location " claiming privacy until Maryland Board of Health released it to the press that they had been on a cruise in Egypt and that one of them had visited a Nursing home in Rockville post return. The MD DOH released the name of that Nursing home as rightly they should.

Same should happen with the " individual " who was at CPAC and AIPAC who " later visited a school in PA. Given this person's travel and appearances it is likely a politician. I am not saying name the person, but come on.... be smart and post in press everywhere this person went .

Then, they should really shut down these conventions, political rallies and perhaps people over age 60 should not mingle in public , but stay home

Healthy children, teens, go to school.

Ok, BUT could you please tell me what "healthy children" are?? Do my kids with a history of asthma qualify as healthy just because they aren't sick now? Asthma has been mostly well controlled for a while, but the history is there. Looks "healthy" most of the time. Likely many other healthy-looking kids with underlying issues. Do we not care about them? Are we just writing off anyone with the generically-sounding, bland phrase "underlying health conditions?"

Get real. Lots of kids are seemingly healthy most of the time but could be in trouble with this virus. Time to consider closing schools and/or other social controls to slow community spread - similar to the "herd" protection of vaccinating a population so that those more vulnerable individuals are protected. Slowing the transmission of this virus benefits everyone. Sitting around and waiting is just a bad idea for everyone.