Incoming Harvard Freshman Deported After Visa Revoked

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Anonymous wrote:I suspect there may be something that's not discussed by the media. CBP is one of the premier LE organizations in the world. It may have acted on an intel it couldn't reveal to the media.

Oh, for Pete's sake. CPB is bottom of the barrel for law enforcement in terms of hierarchy/prestige and riddled with white supremacists.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/7/2/20678839/border-patrol-facebook-group-posts-racist-sexist

"According to ProPublica, roughly 9,500 people are part of the Facebook group, called “I’m 10-15” — a reference to the Border Patrol code for “aliens in custody” — created in August 2016. In postings, members mocked the deaths of migrants, posted about throwing burritos at Latino members of Congress, and targeted Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) with fake illustrations of her engaging in oral sex with migrants and President Donald Trump."

You ought to thank LE organizations such as CBP for allowing you to say something like this. It is the men and women of CBP who protect your freedom of expression, among others. Just don't try this kind of nonsense in NKorea - you'll be pinpointed, hauled away in the dead of the night, and sent to "re-education" camp for your "blasphemy."

so in your world it isn't possible for LE organizations to this and not be riddled with extremists? We can't have both?

There's always that 2% in any organization. Show me one that doesn't have bad apples.

First off, there are roughly 60000 employees in CBP. 9500 is 16%. So that is 8x your number.

Second, in a LE organization isn't 2% too much? And if it isn't too much, then why should I thank them? Right now, I have an 1 in 6 chance that I'm thanking someone who is, well, like you.

If you have a personal knowledge of even 1 bad apple, I am sure CBP, as a premier LE organization in the world, would love to hear from you. We are talking someone who is rotten, as opposed to someone you have a beef bc s/he is doing his or her job s/he was hired to do. And unlike in NKorea, you’ll be protected, even as a foreigner. They’ll make sure you’ll be able to speak freely, unlike in some countries.

You truly are very naive, aren't you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“When I asked every time to have my phone back so I could tell them about the situation, the officer refused and told me to sit back in [my] position and not move at all,” he wrote. “After the 5 hours ended, she called me into a room , and she started screaming at me. She said that she found people posting political points of view that oppose the US on my friend[s] list.”

Above comes from the Harvard Crimson article but
was omitted from the initial thread quote.

Why do we let students into the US that don't like us?
It seems there are plenty of international students
that like us and want to study in the US.

It looks like there was problematic material on the
student's phone.

I have plenty of Facebook friends who post political points of view that I don’t agree with. Don’t you? Or have they all unfriended you? He didn’t post any of it or like any of the posts.

+1

Right, but neither the two of you are applying for a student visa from a location that is known to be a hotbed of activities that are hostile to US and our allies. Imagine your kid wants to have a sleepover with a friend from school, he is from a part of the neighborhood with a lot of drug use and domestic violence - lets say a trailer park. Are you going to have second thoughts about that kid coming over to sleep in your house? How many of you are going to sit down with your child and say "I don't want you hanging out with him". Is this fair to that kid from the trailer park? Life is not fair.

Holy shit. Would you seriously do that? You would actually, in real life, prevent a child from having a sleepover with your kid because he lives in a trailer park. I've heard a lot of really horrible stuff on DCUM, but this takes the cake.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I suspect there may be something that's not discussed by the media. CBP is one of the premier LE organizations in the world. It may have acted on an intel it couldn't reveal to the media.

Oh, for Pete's sake. CPB is bottom of the barrel for law enforcement in terms of hierarchy/prestige and riddled with white supremacists.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/7/2/20678839/border-patrol-facebook-group-posts-racist-sexist

"According to ProPublica, roughly 9,500 people are part of the Facebook group, called “I’m 10-15” — a reference to the Border Patrol code for “aliens in custody” — created in August 2016. In postings, members mocked the deaths of migrants, posted about throwing burritos at Latino members of Congress, and targeted Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) with fake illustrations of her engaging in oral sex with migrants and President Donald Trump."

You ought to thank LE organizations such as CBP for allowing you to say something like this. It is the men and women of CBP who protect your freedom of expression, among others. Just don't try this kind of nonsense in NKorea - you'll be pinpointed, hauled away in the dead of the night, and sent to "re-education" camp for your "blasphemy."

so in your world it isn't possible for LE organizations to this and not be riddled with extremists? We can't have both?

There's always that 2% in any organization. Show me one that doesn't have bad apples.

First off, there are roughly 60000 employees in CBP. 9500 is 16%. So that is 8x your number.

Second, in a LE organization isn't 2% too much? And if it isn't too much, then why should I thank them? Right now, I have an 1 in 6 chance that I'm thanking someone who is, well, like you.

If you have a personal knowledge of even 1 bad apple, I am sure CBP, as a premier LE organization in the world, would love to hear from you. We are talking someone who is rotten, as opposed to someone you have a beef bc s/he is doing his or her job s/he was hired to do. And unlike in NKorea, you’ll be protected, even as a foreigner. They’ll make sure you’ll be able to speak freely, unlike in some countries.

You truly are very naive, aren't you.

So you seriously believe if you speak up, you’ll just “disappear?” Get real. Even if you come on here spieling your nonsense, you’ll be protected. This is America - not NKorea.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I suspect there may be something that's not discussed by the media. CBP is one of the premier LE organizations in the world. It may have acted on an intel it couldn't reveal to the media.

Oh, for Pete's sake. CPB is bottom of the barrel for law enforcement in terms of hierarchy/prestige and riddled with white supremacists.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/7/2/20678839/border-patrol-facebook-group-posts-racist-sexist

"According to ProPublica, roughly 9,500 people are part of the Facebook group, called “I’m 10-15” — a reference to the Border Patrol code for “aliens in custody” — created in August 2016. In postings, members mocked the deaths of migrants, posted about throwing burritos at Latino members of Congress, and targeted Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) with fake illustrations of her engaging in oral sex with migrants and President Donald Trump."

You ought to thank LE organizations such as CBP for allowing you to say something like this. It is the men and women of CBP who protect your freedom of expression, among others. Just don't try this kind of nonsense in NKorea - you'll be pinpointed, hauled away in the dead of the night, and sent to "re-education" camp for your "blasphemy."

so in your world it isn't possible for LE organizations to this and not be riddled with extremists? We can't have both?

There's always that 2% in any organization. Show me one that doesn't have bad apples.

First off, there are roughly 60000 employees in CBP. 9500 is 16%. So that is 8x your number.

Second, in a LE organization isn't 2% too much? And if it isn't too much, then why should I thank them? Right now, I have an 1 in 6 chance that I'm thanking someone who is, well, like you.

If you have a personal knowledge of even 1 bad apple, I am sure CBP, as a premier LE organization in the world, would love to hear from you. We are talking someone who is rotten, as opposed to someone you have a beef bc s/he is doing his or her job s/he was hired to do. And unlike in NKorea, you’ll be protected, even as a foreigner. They’ll make sure you’ll be able to speak freely, unlike in some countries.

You truly are very naive, aren't you.

So you seriously believe if you speak up, you’ll just “disappear?” Get real. Even if you come on here spieling your nonsense, you’ll be protected. This is America - not NKorea.

i love how the bar for our country now is that "hey, we're not North Korea."

when we're herded off to camps, you'll be saying "hey, in North Korea the camps are much more crowded. Be grateful you're not there."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“When I asked every time to have my phone back so I could tell them about the situation, the officer refused and told me to sit back in [my] position and not move at all,” he wrote. “After the 5 hours ended, she called me into a room , and she started screaming at me. She said that she found people posting political points of view that oppose the US on my friend[s] list.”

Above comes from the Harvard Crimson article but
was omitted from the initial thread quote.

Why do we let students into the US that don't like us?
It seems there are plenty of international students
that like us and want to study in the US.

It looks like there was problematic material on the
student's phone.

I have plenty of Facebook friends who post political points of view that I don’t agree with. Don’t you? Or have they all unfriended you? He didn’t post any of it or like any of the posts.

+1

Right, but neither the two of you are applying for a student visa from a location that is known to be a hotbed of activities that are hostile to US and our allies. Imagine your kid wants to have a sleepover with a friend from school, he is from a part of the neighborhood with a lot of drug use and domestic violence - lets say a trailer park. Are you going to have second thoughts about that kid coming over to sleep in your house? How many of you are going to sit down with your child and say "I don't want you hanging out with him". Is this fair to that kid from the trailer park? Life is not fair.

Holy shit. Would you seriously do that? You would actually, in real life, prevent a child from having a sleepover with your kid because he lives in a trailer park. I've heard a lot of really horrible stuff on DCUM, but this takes the cake.

Sad. I feel bad for poster's children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I suspect there may be something that's not discussed by the media. CBP is one of the premier LE organizations in the world. It may have acted on an intel it couldn't reveal to the media.

Oh, for Pete's sake. CPB is bottom of the barrel for law enforcement in terms of hierarchy/prestige and riddled with white supremacists.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/7/2/20678839/border-patrol-facebook-group-posts-racist-sexist

"According to ProPublica, roughly 9,500 people are part of the Facebook group, called “I’m 10-15” — a reference to the Border Patrol code for “aliens in custody” — created in August 2016. In postings, members mocked the deaths of migrants, posted about throwing burritos at Latino members of Congress, and targeted Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) with fake illustrations of her engaging in oral sex with migrants and President Donald Trump."

You ought to thank LE organizations such as CBP for allowing you to say something like this. It is the men and women of CBP who protect your freedom of expression, among others. Just don't try this kind of nonsense in NKorea - you'll be pinpointed, hauled away in the dead of the night, and sent to "re-education" camp for your "blasphemy."

so in your world it isn't possible for LE organizations to this and not be riddled with extremists? We can't have both?

There's always that 2% in any organization. Show me one that doesn't have bad apples.

First off, there are roughly 60000 employees in CBP. 9500 is 16%. So that is 8x your number.

Second, in a LE organization isn't 2% too much? And if it isn't too much, then why should I thank them? Right now, I have an 1 in 6 chance that I'm thanking someone who is, well, like you.

If you have a personal knowledge of even 1 bad apple, I am sure CBP, as a premier LE organization in the world, would love to hear from you. We are talking someone who is rotten, as opposed to someone you have a beef bc s/he is doing his or her job s/he was hired to do. And unlike in NKorea, you’ll be protected, even as a foreigner. They’ll make sure you’ll be able to speak freely, unlike in some countries.

You truly are very naive, aren't you.

So you seriously believe if you speak up, you’ll just “disappear?” Get real. Even if you come on here spieling your nonsense, you’ll be protected. This is America - not NKorea.

i love how the bar for our country now is that "hey, we're not North Korea."

when we're herded off to camps, you'll be saying "hey, in North Korea the camps are much more crowded. Be grateful you're not there."

You wouldn’t be coming to a country like NKorea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I suspect there may be something that's not discussed by the media. CBP is one of the premier LE organizations in the world. It may have acted on an intel it couldn't reveal to the media.

Oh, for Pete's sake. CPB is bottom of the barrel for law enforcement in terms of hierarchy/prestige and riddled with white supremacists.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/7/2/20678839/border-patrol-facebook-group-posts-racist-sexist

"According to ProPublica, roughly 9,500 people are part of the Facebook group, called “I’m 10-15” — a reference to the Border Patrol code for “aliens in custody” — created in August 2016. In postings, members mocked the deaths of migrants, posted about throwing burritos at Latino members of Congress, and targeted Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) with fake illustrations of her engaging in oral sex with migrants and President Donald Trump."

You ought to thank LE organizations such as CBP for allowing you to say something like this. It is the men and women of CBP who protect your freedom of expression, among others. Just don't try this kind of nonsense in NKorea - you'll be pinpointed, hauled away in the dead of the night, and sent to "re-education" camp for your "blasphemy."

so in your world it isn't possible for LE organizations to this and not be riddled with extremists? We can't have both?

There's always that 2% in any organization. Show me one that doesn't have bad apples.

First off, there are roughly 60000 employees in CBP. 9500 is 16%. So that is 8x your number.

Second, in a LE organization isn't 2% too much? And if it isn't too much, then why should I thank them? Right now, I have an 1 in 6 chance that I'm thanking someone who is, well, like you.

If you have a personal knowledge of even 1 bad apple, I am sure CBP, as a premier LE organization in the world, would love to hear from you. We are talking someone who is rotten, as opposed to someone you have a beef bc s/he is doing his or her job s/he was hired to do. And unlike in NKorea, you’ll be protected, even as a foreigner. They’ll make sure you’ll be able to speak freely, unlike in some countries.

You truly are very naive, aren't you.

So you seriously believe if you speak up, you’ll just “disappear?” Get real. Even if you come on here spieling your nonsense, you’ll be protected. This is America - not NKorea.

i love how the bar for our country now is that "hey, we're not North Korea."

when we're herded off to camps, you'll be saying "hey, in North Korea the camps are much more crowded. Be grateful you're not there."

You wouldn’t be coming to a country like NKorea.

Be grateful you are in America.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“When I asked every time to have my phone back so I could tell them about the situation, the officer refused and told me to sit back in [my] position and not move at all,” he wrote. “After the 5 hours ended, she called me into a room , and she started screaming at me. She said that she found people posting political points of view that oppose the US on my friend[s] list.”

Above comes from the Harvard Crimson article but
was omitted from the initial thread quote.

Why do we let students into the US that don't like us?
It seems there are plenty of international students
that like us and want to study in the US.

It looks like there was problematic material on the
student's phone.

I have plenty of Facebook friends who post political points of view that I don’t agree with. Don’t you? Or have they all unfriended you? He didn’t post any of it or like any of the posts.

+1

Right, but neither the two of you are applying for a student visa from a location that is known to be a hotbed of activities that are hostile to US and our allies. Imagine your kid wants to have a sleepover with a friend from school, he is from a part of the neighborhood with a lot of drug use and domestic violence - lets say a trailer park. Are you going to have second thoughts about that kid coming over to sleep in your house? How many of you are going to sit down with your child and say "I don't want you hanging out with him". Is this fair to that kid from the trailer park? Life is not fair.

Holy shit. Would you seriously do that? You would actually, in real life, prevent a child from having a sleepover with your kid because he lives in a trailer park. I've heard a lot of really horrible stuff on DCUM, but this takes the cake.

Sad. I feel bad for poster's children.

+1

Yikes!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I suspect there may be something that's not discussed by the media. CBP is one of the premier LE organizations in the world. It may have acted on an intel it couldn't reveal to the media.

Oh, for Pete's sake. CPB is bottom of the barrel for law enforcement in terms of hierarchy/prestige and riddled with white supremacists.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/7/2/20678839/border-patrol-facebook-group-posts-racist-sexist

"According to ProPublica, roughly 9,500 people are part of the Facebook group, called “I’m 10-15” — a reference to the Border Patrol code for “aliens in custody” — created in August 2016. In postings, members mocked the deaths of migrants, posted about throwing burritos at Latino members of Congress, and targeted Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) with fake illustrations of her engaging in oral sex with migrants and President Donald Trump."

You ought to thank LE organizations such as CBP for allowing you to say something like this. It is the men and women of CBP who protect your freedom of expression, among others. Just don't try this kind of nonsense in NKorea - you'll be pinpointed, hauled away in the dead of the night, and sent to "re-education" camp for your "blasphemy."

so in your world it isn't possible for LE organizations to this and not be riddled with extremists? We can't have both?

There's always that 2% in any organization. Show me one that doesn't have bad apples.

First off, there are roughly 60000 employees in CBP. 9500 is 16%. So that is 8x your number.

Second, in a LE organization isn't 2% too much? And if it isn't too much, then why should I thank them? Right now, I have an 1 in 6 chance that I'm thanking someone who is, well, like you.

If you have a personal knowledge of even 1 bad apple, I am sure CBP, as a premier LE organization in the world, would love to hear from you. We are talking someone who is rotten, as opposed to someone you have a beef bc s/he is doing his or her job s/he was hired to do. And unlike in NKorea, you’ll be protected, even as a foreigner. They’ll make sure you’ll be able to speak freely, unlike in some countries.

You truly are very naive, aren't you.

So you seriously believe if you speak up, you’ll just “disappear?” Get real. Even if you come on here spieling your nonsense, you’ll be protected. This is America - not NKorea.

i love how the bar for our country now is that "hey, we're not North Korea."

when we're herded off to camps, you'll be saying "hey, in North Korea the camps are much more crowded. Be grateful you're not there."

You wouldn’t be coming to a country like NKorea.

Be grateful you are in America.

No, I don't think I will.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“When I asked every time to have my phone back so I could tell them about the situation, the officer refused and told me to sit back in [my] position and not move at all,” he wrote. “After the 5 hours ended, she called me into a room , and she started screaming at me. She said that she found people posting political points of view that oppose the US on my friend[s] list.”

Above comes from the Harvard Crimson article but
was omitted from the initial thread quote.

Why do we let students into the US that don't like us?
It seems there are plenty of international students
that like us and want to study in the US.

It looks like there was problematic material on the
student's phone.

I have plenty of Facebook friends who post political points of view that I don’t agree with. Don’t you? Or have they all unfriended you? He didn’t post any of it or like any of the posts.

+1

Right, but neither the two of you are applying for a student visa from a location that is known to be a hotbed of activities that are hostile to US and our allies. Imagine your kid wants to have a sleepover with a friend from school, he is from a part of the neighborhood with a lot of drug use and domestic violence - lets say a trailer park. Are you going to have second thoughts about that kid coming over to sleep in your house? How many of you are going to sit down with your child and say "I don't want you hanging out with him". Is this fair to that kid from the trailer park? Life is not fair.

[b]Holy shit. Would you seriously do that? You would actually, in real life, prevent a child from having a sleepover with your kid because he lives in a trailer park. I've heard a lot of really horrible stuff on DCUM, but this takes the cake.

[/b]
Sad. I feel bad for poster's children.

Trailer parks generally house the working poor. Think teachers (in some parts of the country), beauticians, sheriff's deputies, police officers etc. In many
cases they are safer than your suburban neighborhoods due to the sheriff's deputies parking their cars out in front of their mobile homes.

There is a lot of drug dealing in suburban neighborhoods, sometimes million dollar deals. There is a lot of domestic violence in the suburbs. Above was a very
amazing comment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I suspect there may be something that's not discussed by the media. CBP is one of the premier LE organizations in the world. It may have acted on an intel it couldn't reveal to the media.

Oh, for Pete's sake. CPB is bottom of the barrel for law enforcement in terms of hierarchy/prestige and riddled with white supremacists.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/7/2/20678839/border-patrol-facebook-group-posts-racist-sexist

"According to ProPublica, roughly 9,500 people are part of the Facebook group, called “I’m 10-15” — a reference to the Border Patrol code for “aliens in custody” — created in August 2016. In postings, members mocked the deaths of migrants, posted about throwing burritos at Latino members of Congress, and targeted Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) with fake illustrations of her engaging in oral sex with migrants and President Donald Trump."

You ought to thank LE organizations such as CBP for allowing you to say something like this. It is the men and women of CBP who protect your freedom of expression, among others. Just don't try this kind of nonsense in NKorea - you'll be pinpointed, hauled away in the dead of the night, and sent to "re-education" camp for your "blasphemy."

so in your world it isn't possible for LE organizations to this and not be riddled with extremists? We can't have both?

There's always that 2% in any organization. Show me one that doesn't have bad apples.

First off, there are roughly 60000 employees in CBP. 9500 is 16%. So that is 8x your number.

Second, in a LE organization isn't 2% too much? And if it isn't too much, then why should I thank them? Right now, I have an 1 in 6 chance that I'm thanking someone who is, well, like you.

+1. And so many people just wave off “bad apples“ without ever mentioning the rest of the saying, that they spoil the bunch.

[Anonymous]

Update: As was suggested above, Harvard's lawyers are working on the matter. The young man only had his visa revoked and was sent back. He was not deported. He can return. Harvard has a huge in-house office of lawyers working on it plus outside counsel so I'm sure he'll be back soon.

But having lost a friend in 9/11 from a flight coming out of Logan, I'm glad for the increased security. https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/questions-us-turns-palestinian-harvard-freshman-65251424

[Anonymous]

BTW, the Harvard Crimson is a student-run paper so reporting is iffy and often hysterical. Always check a story there (or in any student-run paper for that matter) against more responsible press reporting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:BTW, the Harvard Crimson is a student-run paper so reporting is iffy and often hysterical. Always check a story there (or in any student-run paper for that matter) against more responsible press reporting.

Yes, don’t just rely on WIKI or DCUM for your daily news...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BTW, the Harvard Crimson is a student-run paper so reporting is iffy and often hysterical. Always check a story there (or in any student-run paper for that matter) against more responsible press reporting.

Yes, don’t just rely on WIKI or DCUM for your daily news...

Yes, but look at the all the pages devoted here to unwarranted hysteria over a Harvard Crimson piece - some even calling this part of Trump's America. Come on, the customs agents were just doing their job and the student didn't have the correct paperwork and suspicious "hate America" stuff on his phone. Harvard will sort this out within a week if they still want the kid. There's no story here.