Not redshirting our May birthday boy?

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't read all these responses - but just saw this thread and wanted to comment. I have a May birthday boy and he is a rising senior in high school in MCPS.

He is perfect and is completely fine as a rising senior. He is a good student, has friends, is definitely mature for his age and grade and is ready for college.

I would absolutely send a May birthday - he has other May friends - we never even considered holding him back - he is studious and totally appropriate for his grade.

The only thing I notice is that most of his friends that have summer birthdays are a whole year ahead - they will be 18 this summer (mine will not be 18 until May of his senior year, obviously) - at least the summer boys were all held back.

It really doesn't matter now except that some have had their driver's licences for longer.

How is May even a discussion?

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Anonymous wrote:We did not redshirt our June boy and ate not redshirting our early September girl (cut off is 9/30).

Hi- I have a June boy. Are you happy with your decision?

Just so you know, your child won’t be able to play soccer with his class. He will have to play with the grade he’s supposed to be in.

Travel soccer, yes, but Rec soccer (which sucks anyway), they can play with their grade.

No they cannot. My sons best friends are December 2011 kids, he is June 2012. Reston Herndon refused to put them on the same team even though they were the same age and in the same class.

I'm not the PP who you're responding to, but I think this must vary by league. We live in Arlington and rec teams are by grade. I have a 2012 birthday kid who plays on a rec team with 2011 birthdays because they are in his grade (not sure why it "sucks"). Travel/try-out teams are by birth year, so he will not be on a team with the 2011s if we do that.

I think in general this shows that there are a lot of really hyper-local things that may crop up with sports, school, etc.

MSI soccer is by birth date on a school year calendar. So it’s Aug 1 - July 31 or Sept 1 - Aug 31. I forget which. In any event, Dec 2011 and spring 2012 play together, but if you redshirt to the extreme your kid will not play with his grade in ES. I think at some point in MS they may switch to birth year and split the grades up. Kids who are serious about sports in this region are playing club/travel sports. They may or may not also play for their HS team when they get there.

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Anonymous wrote:We did not redshirt our June boy and ate not redshirting our early September girl (cut off is 9/30).

Hi- I have a June boy. Are you happy with your decision?

Just so you know, your child won’t be able to play soccer with his class. He will have to play with the grade he’s supposed to be in.

Travel soccer, yes, but Rec soccer (which sucks anyway), they can play with their grade.

No they cannot. My sons best friends are December 2011 kids, he is June 2012. Reston Herndon refused to put them on the same team even though they were the same age and in the same class.

I'm not the PP who you're responding to, but I think this must vary by league. We live in Arlington and rec teams are by grade. I have a 2012 birthday kid who plays on a rec team with 2011 birthdays because they are in his grade (not sure why it "sucks"). Travel/try-out teams are by birth year, so he will not be on a team with the 2011s if we do that.

I think in general this shows that there are a lot of really hyper-local things that may crop up with sports, school, etc.

MSI soccer is by birth date on a school year calendar. So it’s Aug 1 - July 31 or Sept 1 - Aug 31. I forget which. In any event, Dec 2011 and spring 2012 play together, but if you redshirt to the extreme your kid will not play with his grade in ES. I think at some point in MS they may switch to birth year and split the grades up. Kids who are serious about sports in this region are playing club/travel sports. They may or may not also play for their HS team when they get there.

I wish Reston Herndon, I guess it is now Great Falls/Reston/Herndon did things that way but they didn't. The only reason my 6 YO was playing was to play with his friends but they were on different teams because of their year of birth. We put it on the original form and when I emailed to follow up I was told, in a very rude and curt email, that levels were decided by birth year and there were no exceptions allowed. It has not been an issue since then because DS decided he didn't want to play soccer any more and has stuck with baseball.

Glad that there are some leagues out there with some common sense.

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I've never heard of redshirting spring birthdays. Seems extreme to me

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't read all these responses - but just saw this thread and wanted to comment. I have a May birthday boy and he is a rising senior in high school in MCPS.

He is perfect and is completely fine as a rising senior. He is a good student, has friends, is definitely mature for his age and grade and is ready for college.

I would absolutely send a May birthday - he has other May friends - we never even considered holding him back - he is studious and totally appropriate for his grade.

The only thing I notice is that most of his friends that have summer birthdays are a whole year ahead - they will be 18 this summer (mine will not be 18 until May of his senior year, obviously) - at least the summer boys were all held back.

It really doesn't matter now except that some have had their driver's licences for longer.

How is May even a discussion?

Our cut off is Sep 1. So if summer is acceptable June 1- August 31 for redshirting, is there that much difference between a kid like my son born May 30 to a kid born June 1. It’s a few days away. For what it’s worth we aren’t red shirting but I know for a fact that every summer birthday is holding back because I know who isn’t moving on with him to K next year. The parents have already declared the year they will start because we start Kinder readiness activities in September for the following year. Maybe it’s a regional thing but it’s just what people do. Many spring birthdays will be redshirted as well, from February. It’s the worst for May kids because that is a grey area and they usually will be the youngest, save for the small handful of summer kids who go on time. Someone has to be the youngest and we will just make sure our son gets a little extra help to keep up. The concern is always that the older kids are perceived as gifted and more athletically inclined and they get extra attention which follows them through the years, when really they are just older. Our district is very competitive to begin with so we will just have to come to terms that he will have to work that much harder to keep up.

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To clarify *every boy summer birthday in his preschool
I know of a few kids who have summer birthdays going’s on time but they are the exception. Both families have ivy league parents so I expect the kids will be brighter than average and not have issues academically. I have no reason to think my son will struggle academically but he doesn’t have that mensa IQ either.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't read all these responses - but just saw this thread and wanted to comment. I have a May birthday boy and he is a rising senior in high school in MCPS.

He is perfect and is completely fine as a rising senior. He is a good student, has friends, is definitely mature for his age and grade and is ready for college.

I would absolutely send a May birthday - he has other May friends - we never even considered holding him back - he is studious and totally appropriate for his grade.

The only thing I notice is that most of his friends that have summer birthdays are a whole year ahead - they will be 18 this summer (mine will not be 18 until May of his senior year, obviously) - at least the summer boys were all held back.

It really doesn't matter now except that some have had their driver's licences for longer.

How is May even a discussion?

Our cut off is Sep 1. So if summer is acceptable June 1- August 31 for redshirting, is there that much difference between a kid like my son born May 30 to a kid born June 1. It’s a few days away. For what it’s worth we aren’t red shirting but I know for a fact that every summer birthday is holding back because I know who isn’t moving on with him to K next year. The parents have already declared the year they will start because we start Kinder readiness activities in September for the following year. Maybe it’s a regional thing but it’s just what people do. Many spring birthdays will be redshirted as well, from February. It’s the worst for May kids because that is a grey area and they usually will be the youngest, save for the small handful of summer kids who go on time. Someone has to be the youngest and we will just make sure our son gets a little extra help to keep up. The concern is always that the older kids are perceived as gifted and more athletically inclined and they get extra attention which follows them through the years, when really they are just older. Our district is very competitive to begin with so we will just have to come to terms that he will have to work that much harder to keep up.

June 1 is also ridiculous. Does that make you feel any better then - May and June 1 can be the same. Also - what region is this regional to?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't read all these responses - but just saw this thread and wanted to comment. I have a May birthday boy and he is a rising senior in high school in MCPS.

He is perfect and is completely fine as a rising senior. He is a good student, has friends, is definitely mature for his age and grade and is ready for college.

I would absolutely send a May birthday - he has other May friends - we never even considered holding him back - he is studious and totally appropriate for his grade.

The only thing I notice is that most of his friends that have summer birthdays are a whole year ahead - they will be 18 this summer (mine will not be 18 until May of his senior year, obviously) - at least the summer boys were all held back.

It really doesn't matter now except that some have had their driver's licences for longer.

How is May even a discussion?

Our cut off is Sep 1. So if summer is acceptable June 1- August 31 for redshirting, is there that much difference between a kid like my son born May 30 to a kid born June 1. It’s a few days away. For what it’s worth we aren’t red shirting but I know for a fact that every summer birthday is holding back because I know who isn’t moving on with him to K next year. The parents have already declared the year they will start because we start Kinder readiness activities in September for the following year. Maybe it’s a regional thing but it’s just what people do. Many spring birthdays will be redshirted as well, from February. It’s the worst for May kids because that is a grey area and they usually will be the youngest, save for the small handful of summer kids who go on time. Someone has to be the youngest and we will just make sure our son gets a little extra help to keep up. The concern is always that the older kids are perceived as gifted and more athletically inclined and they get extra attention which follows them through the years, when really they are just older. Our district is very competitive to begin with so we will just have to come to terms that he will have to work that much harder to keep up.

Stop complaining and stop babying your child. They will figure it out. Your kid will not be the youngest with a May birthday when kids have later birthdays and go. Mine is a September birthday and he's the youngest. Its taught him to work harder and taught him how to deal with older kids. Now he's in camps with much older kids and doing fine as that's what he's used to. Parents are dumbing down their kids and then at the same time screaming how they need to be independent and it harms them to supervise them. I don't get it.

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Anonymous wrote:We did not redshirt our June boy and ate not redshirting our early September girl (cut off is 9/30).

Hi- I have a June boy. Are you happy with your decision?

Just so you know, your child won’t be able to play soccer with his class. He will have to play with the grade he’s supposed to be in.

Travel soccer, yes, but Rec soccer (which sucks anyway), they can play with their grade.

No they cannot. My sons best friends are December 2011 kids, he is June 2012. Reston Herndon refused to put them on the same team even though they were the same age and in the same class.

I'm not the PP who you're responding to, but I think this must vary by league. We live in Arlington and rec teams are by grade. I have a 2012 birthday kid who plays on a rec team with 2011 birthdays because they are in his grade (not sure why it "sucks"). Travel/try-out teams are by birth year, so he will not be on a team with the 2011s if we do that.

I think in general this shows that there are a lot of really hyper-local things that may crop up with sports, school, etc.

MSI soccer is by birth date on a school year calendar. So it’s Aug 1 - July 31 or Sept 1 - Aug 31. I forget which. In any event, Dec 2011 and spring 2012 play together, but if you redshirt to the extreme your kid will not play with his grade in ES. I think at some point in MS they may switch to birth year and split the grades up. Kids who are serious about sports in this region are playing club/travel sports. They may or may not also play for their HS team when they get there.

How many kids play soccer after 8?

[Anonymous]

I didn’t redshirt or august boy. No regrets so far.

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Anonymous wrote:We did not redshirt our June boy and ate not redshirting our early September girl (cut off is 9/30).

Hi- I have a June boy. Are you happy with your decision?

Just so you know, your child won’t be able to play soccer with his class. He will have to play with the grade he’s supposed to be in.

not sure who u r talking to? Im the pp with a held back oct 1 kid and a june kid. My oct 6 yr old plays soccer and all sports with his grade so far. And my June kid, Im planning to send.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't read all these responses - but just saw this thread and wanted to comment. I have a May birthday boy and he is a rising senior in high school in MCPS.

He is perfect and is completely fine as a rising senior. He is a good student, has friends, is definitely mature for his age and grade and is ready for college.

I would absolutely send a May birthday - he has other May friends - we never even considered holding him back - he is studious and totally appropriate for his grade.

The only thing I notice is that most of his friends that have summer birthdays are a whole year ahead - they will be 18 this summer (mine will not be 18 until May of his senior year, obviously) - at least the summer boys were all held back.

It really doesn't matter now except that some have had their driver's licences for longer.

How is May even a discussion?

Our cut off is Sep 1. So if summer is acceptable June 1- August 31 for redshirting, is there that much difference between a kid like my son born May 30 to a kid born June 1. It’s a few days away. For what it’s worth we aren’t red shirting but I know for a fact that every summer birthday is holding back because I know who isn’t moving on with him to K next year. The parents have already declared the year they will start because we start Kinder readiness activities in September for the following year. Maybe it’s a regional thing but it’s just what people do. Many spring birthdays will be redshirted as well, from February. It’s the worst for May kids because that is a grey area and they usually will be the youngest, save for the small handful of summer kids who go on time. Someone has to be the youngest and we will just make sure our son gets a little extra help to keep up. The concern is always that the older kids are perceived as gifted and more athletically inclined and they get extra attention which follows them through the years, when really they are just older. Our district is very competitive to begin with so we will just have to come to terms that he will have to work that much harder to keep up.

Stop complaining and stop babying your child. They will figure it out. Your kid will not be the youngest with a May birthday when kids have later birthdays and go. Mine is a September birthday and he's the youngest. Its taught him to work harder and taught him how to deal with older kids. Now he's in camps with much older kids and doing fine as that's what he's used to. Parents are dumbing down their kids and then at the same time screaming how they need to be independent and it harms them to supervise them. I don't get it.

Stop complaining? Or babying my child who is going on time? LOL. How about everyone just sends their kid on time so a 5 year old isn't expected to work harder to keep up with 7 year olds in his K class? You know there is a pretty big developmental gap between a 5 year old and 7 year old right? It doesn't sound like redshirting is an issue in your district so he just happens to fall on the young side of his class, but there aren't kids with over a year difference either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't read all these responses - but just saw this thread and wanted to comment. I have a May birthday boy and he is a rising senior in high school in MCPS.

He is perfect and is completely fine as a rising senior. He is a good student, has friends, is definitely mature for his age and grade and is ready for college.

I would absolutely send a May birthday - he has other May friends - we never even considered holding him back - he is studious and totally appropriate for his grade.

The only thing I notice is that most of his friends that have summer birthdays are a whole year ahead - they will be 18 this summer (mine will not be 18 until May of his senior year, obviously) - at least the summer boys were all held back.

It really doesn't matter now except that some have had their driver's licences for longer.

How is May even a discussion?

Our cut off is Sep 1. So if summer is acceptable June 1- August 31 for redshirting, is there that much difference between a kid like my son born May 30 to a kid born June 1. It’s a few days away. For what it’s worth we aren’t red shirting but I know for a fact that every summer birthday is holding back because I know who isn’t moving on with him to K next year. The parents have already declared the year they will start because we start Kinder readiness activities in September for the following year. Maybe it’s a regional thing but it’s just what people do. Many spring birthdays will be redshirted as well, from February. It’s the worst for May kids because that is a grey area and they usually will be the youngest, save for the small handful of summer kids who go on time. Someone has to be the youngest and we will just make sure our son gets a little extra help to keep up. The concern is always that the older kids are perceived as gifted and more athletically inclined and they get extra attention which follows them through the years, when really they are just older. Our district is very competitive to begin with so we will just have to come to terms that he will have to work that much harder to keep up.

June 1 is also ridiculous. Does that make you feel any better then - May and June 1 can be the same. Also - what region is this regional to?

We are in Nashville in Franklin. 27% of kids are redshirted in total. This is what someone else said about the specific district:
The data from my school (in Franklin) is that 27% of the kids could be a grade higher based on age.

Redshirting is a huge problem and one they really need to address. I did the K tour with my youngest last months and there were GIRLs born in March/April who were being red-shirted. I can't think of any reason for any child to be starting K at 6.5.

Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/nashville/1816952-brentwood-redshirting.html#ixzz5tJtWhtEy

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't read all these responses - but just saw this thread and wanted to comment. I have a May birthday boy and he is a rising senior in high school in MCPS.

He is perfect and is completely fine as a rising senior. He is a good student, has friends, is definitely mature for his age and grade and is ready for college.

I would absolutely send a May birthday - he has other May friends - we never even considered holding him back - he is studious and totally appropriate for his grade.

The only thing I notice is that most of his friends that have summer birthdays are a whole year ahead - they will be 18 this summer (mine will not be 18 until May of his senior year, obviously) - at least the summer boys were all held back.

It really doesn't matter now except that some have had their driver's licences for longer.

How is May even a discussion?

Our cut off is Sep 1. So if summer is acceptable June 1- August 31 for redshirting, is there that much difference between a kid like my son born May 30 to a kid born June 1. It’s a few days away. For what it’s worth we aren’t red shirting but I know for a fact that every summer birthday is holding back because I know who isn’t moving on with him to K next year. The parents have already declared the year they will start because we start Kinder readiness activities in September for the following year. Maybe it’s a regional thing but it’s just what people do. Many spring birthdays will be redshirted as well, from February. It’s the worst for May kids because that is a grey area and they usually will be the youngest, save for the small handful of summer kids who go on time. Someone has to be the youngest and we will just make sure our son gets a little extra help to keep up. The concern is always that the older kids are perceived as gifted and more athletically inclined and they get extra attention which follows them through the years, when really they are just older. Our district is very competitive to begin with so we will just have to come to terms that he will have to work that much harder to keep up.

Stop complaining and stop babying your child. They will figure it out. Your kid will not be the youngest with a May birthday when kids have later birthdays and go. Mine is a September birthday and he's the youngest. Its taught him to work harder and taught him how to deal with older kids. Now he's in camps with much older kids and doing fine as that's what he's used to. Parents are dumbing down their kids and then at the same time screaming how they need to be independent and it harms them to supervise them. I don't get it.

Stop complaining? Or babying my child who is going on time? LOL. How about everyone just sends their kid on time so a 5 year old isn't expected to work harder to keep up with 7 year olds in his K class? You know there is a pretty big developmental gap between a 5 year old and 7 year old right? It doesn't sound like redshirting is an issue in your district so he just happens to fall on the young side of his class, but there aren't kids with over a year difference either.

Did you even read what I put? My kid went at 4/5 so what are you rambling about. Our public tried to force me to hold my child back and refused to test him so we worked around it by going private. Mine is a fall kid. Mine is always the youngest.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't read all these responses - but just saw this thread and wanted to comment. I have a May birthday boy and he is a rising senior in high school in MCPS.

He is perfect and is completely fine as a rising senior. He is a good student, has friends, is definitely mature for his age and grade and is ready for college.

I would absolutely send a May birthday - he has other May friends - we never even considered holding him back - he is studious and totally appropriate for his grade.

The only thing I notice is that most of his friends that have summer birthdays are a whole year ahead - they will be 18 this summer (mine will not be 18 until May of his senior year, obviously) - at least the summer boys were all held back.

It really doesn't matter now except that some have had their driver's licences for longer.

How is May even a discussion?

Our cut off is Sep 1. So if summer is acceptable June 1- August 31 for redshirting, is there that much difference between a kid like my son born May 30 to a kid born June 1. It’s a few days away. For what it’s worth we aren’t red shirting but I know for a fact that every summer birthday is holding back because I know who isn’t moving on with him to K next year. The parents have already declared the year they will start because we start Kinder readiness activities in September for the following year. Maybe it’s a regional thing but it’s just what people do. Many spring birthdays will be redshirted as well, from February. It’s the worst for May kids because that is a grey area and they usually will be the youngest, save for the small handful of summer kids who go on time. Someone has to be the youngest and we will just make sure our son gets a little extra help to keep up. The concern is always that the older kids are perceived as gifted and more athletically inclined and they get extra attention which follows them through the years, when really they are just older. Our district is very competitive to begin with so we will just have to come to terms that he will have to work that much harder to keep up.

June 1 is also ridiculous. Does that make you feel any better then - May and June 1 can be the same. Also - what region is this regional to?

We are in Nashville in Franklin. 27% of kids are redshirted in total. This is what someone else said about the specific district:
The data from my school (in Franklin) is that 27% of the kids could be a grade higher based on age.

Redshirting is a huge problem and one they really need to address. I did the K tour with my youngest last months and there were GIRLs born in March/April who were being red-shirted. I can't think of any reason for any child to be starting K at 6.5.

Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/nashville/1816952-brentwood-redshirting.html#ixzz5tJtWhtEy

What difference does it make with gender? No one should be held back, especially kids with special needs and delays. Some kids like mine are basically forced to stay back if they have a September birthday which is horrible. Mine would have started at 6 but I was not agreeing to that.