ECNL & DA Nationals Results

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I corrected myself.

Some MA teams in some age groups are contender. Some are not.

Some teams underperformed (human aspect)

Every Division in every league in every part of the country is like that.

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Anonymous wrote:PDA is an outlier and represents the strength of the NE Conference.

Take a look at the NE U15 standings as an example of your claim being wrong.

PDA finished in 3rd. The top 6 records in the U15 standards are:
10-3-1
10-3-1
9-2-3
9-2-3
9-2-3
9-3-2

That looks like a Conference that can do battle with PDA.

Lets look at the U16s in the NE:
10-1-3
10-3-1
9-2-3
9-3-2
8-3-3
7-4-3

PDA has two teams in this age group and finished 3rd and 4th.

U17s:
12-2
11-1-2
11-1-2
9-1-4
8-3-3
7-4-3

PDA finished 2nd.

So exactly what makes PDA such an outlier? The North East is just a flat out strong Conference. The Mid Atlantic is not. As a matter of fact, the U13s and U14s are the only 1st place conference teams and they did it only within their Division. U13 and U14 are the only age groups to break up the conference by division to lesson travel at the younger age groups.

What is your point. The NE Division is probabley the strongest in the nation and will only get stronger next year. This has always been the case. You are adding Zero value.

It is answering the argument that PDA is an outlier based on the following quote "PDA is an outlier and represents the strength of the NE Conference."

The NE as a conference is only one of three very strong conferences. The Mid Atlantic is not included in that list. Just facts.

Neither is the DA Atlantic Division. In fact, the entire East Coast DA is downright horrible.

Florida= Horrible
Georgia = Tophat (nothing else)
South Carolina = Nothing
North Carolina = old Casl. (Nothing else)
Virginia = FCV (nothing else)
Maryland= Nothing really
PA = Penn Fusion (nothing else)
NJ = Cedar Stars (nothing else)
Conn = Horrible
All of New England = NEFC (nothing else)

That is the entire east coast of the United States of America my friend.

How does this make the Mid Atlantic better?

It doesnt make them better. It means pick your poison and stop acting like the sky is falling.

There are better ECNL teams
There are better DA teams
There are better conference
There are better divsions

Am I telling you something new?

Where did I ever imply that the sky is falling? I said the Mid Atlantic is a weak ECNL Conference and I demonstrated the ways that it is a weak Conference. My initial point has not yet been disproved.

You dont see the failure in your anaylsis and never will. So let's change the discussion for a second.

For someone who puts so much time effort into looking up numbers to make a point, can you give us a local alternative.

That is easy. The one closest to home where your kid is a starter. DA, ECNL, it doesn't matter. There are no power house clubs here and there are no power league conferences.

As I said all along.

It's all team (age group) specific not club specific. The MA teams are national contenders. Some are not.

Just when we find some common ground you go and say the bolded above.

Few MA teams are national contenders. Most are not AND I'll add, never will be.

Each conference has a few teams that are contenders. Does your DD play in the DA or something?

We've gone over the numbers. 4, the answer is 4 teams out of the MA that reached the Quarter Finals. 4 teams out of 96 teams in the quarter finals. I consider a "contender" to have at least reached the quarter finals. I say this because it eliminates qualifying for nationals due to a weak conference because you have win out of your group to advance to the quarters.

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Anonymous wrote:PDA is an outlier and represents the strength of the NE Conference.

Take a look at the NE U15 standings as an example of your claim being wrong.

PDA finished in 3rd. The top 6 records in the U15 standards are:
10-3-1
10-3-1
9-2-3
9-2-3
9-2-3
9-3-2

That looks like a Conference that can do battle with PDA.

Lets look at the U16s in the NE:
10-1-3
10-3-1
9-2-3
9-3-2
8-3-3
7-4-3

PDA has two teams in this age group and finished 3rd and 4th.

U17s:
12-2
11-1-2
11-1-2
9-1-4
8-3-3
7-4-3

PDA finished 2nd.

So exactly what makes PDA such an outlier? The North East is just a flat out strong Conference. The Mid Atlantic is not. As a matter of fact, the U13s and U14s are the only 1st place conference teams and they did it only within their Division. U13 and U14 are the only age groups to break up the conference by division to lesson travel at the younger age groups.

What is your point. The NE Division is probabley the strongest in the nation and will only get stronger next year. This has always been the case. You are adding Zero value.

It is answering the argument that PDA is an outlier based on the following quote "PDA is an outlier and represents the strength of the NE Conference."

The NE as a conference is only one of three very strong conferences. The Mid Atlantic is not included in that list. Just facts.

Neither is the DA Atlantic Division. In fact, the entire East Coast DA is downright horrible.

Florida= Horrible
Georgia = Tophat (nothing else)
South Carolina = Nothing
North Carolina = old Casl. (Nothing else)
Virginia = FCV (nothing else)
Maryland= Nothing really
PA = Penn Fusion (nothing else)
NJ = Cedar Stars (nothing else)
Conn = Horrible
All of New England = NEFC (nothing else)

That is the entire east coast of the United States of America my friend.

How does this make the Mid Atlantic better?

It doesnt make them better. It means pick your poison and stop acting like the sky is falling.

There are better ECNL teams
There are better DA teams
There are better conference
There are better divsions

Am I telling you something new?

Where did I ever imply that the sky is falling? I said the Mid Atlantic is a weak ECNL Conference and I demonstrated the ways that it is a weak Conference. My initial point has not yet been disproved.

You dont see the failure in your anaylsis and never will. So let's change the discussion for a second.

For someone who puts so much time effort into looking up numbers to make a point, can you give us a local alternative.

That is easy. The one closest to home where your kid is a starter. DA, ECNL, it doesn't matter. There are no power house clubs here and there are no power league conferences.

As I said all along.

It's all team (age group) specific not club specific. The MA teams are national contenders. Some are not.

Just when we find some common ground you go and say the bolded above.

Few MA teams are national contenders. Most are not AND I'll add, never will be.

Each conference has a few teams that are contenders. Does your DD play in the DA or something?

We've gone over the numbers. 4, the answer is 4 teams out of the MA that reached the Quarter Finals. 4 teams out of 96 teams in the quarter finals. I consider a "contender" to have at least reached the quarter finals. I say this because it eliminates qualifying for nationals due to a weak conference because you have win out of your group to advance to the quarters.

2 were in the national championship. You keep leaving that out of your equation. Any reason? I assume it doesnt fit your narrative.

You are a MU DA parent, right.

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Anonymous wrote:PDA is an outlier and represents the strength of the NE Conference.

Take a look at the NE U15 standings as an example of your claim being wrong.

PDA finished in 3rd. The top 6 records in the U15 standards are:
10-3-1
10-3-1
9-2-3
9-2-3
9-2-3
9-3-2

That looks like a Conference that can do battle with PDA.

Lets look at the U16s in the NE:
10-1-3
10-3-1
9-2-3
9-3-2
8-3-3
7-4-3

PDA has two teams in this age group and finished 3rd and 4th.

U17s:
12-2
11-1-2
11-1-2
9-1-4
8-3-3
7-4-3

PDA finished 2nd.

So exactly what makes PDA such an outlier? The North East is just a flat out strong Conference. The Mid Atlantic is not. As a matter of fact, the U13s and U14s are the only 1st place conference teams and they did it only within their Division. U13 and U14 are the only age groups to break up the conference by division to lesson travel at the younger age groups.

What is your point. The NE Division is probabley the strongest in the nation and will only get stronger next year. This has always been the case. You are adding Zero value.

It is answering the argument that PDA is an outlier based on the following quote "PDA is an outlier and represents the strength of the NE Conference."

The NE as a conference is only one of three very strong conferences. The Mid Atlantic is not included in that list. Just facts.

Neither is the DA Atlantic Division. In fact, the entire East Coast DA is downright horrible.

Florida= Horrible
Georgia = Tophat (nothing else)
South Carolina = Nothing
North Carolina = old Casl. (Nothing else)
Virginia = FCV (nothing else)
Maryland= Nothing really
PA = Penn Fusion (nothing else)
NJ = Cedar Stars (nothing else)
Conn = Horrible
All of New England = NEFC (nothing else)

That is the entire east coast of the United States of America my friend.

How does this make the Mid Atlantic better?

It doesnt make them better. It means pick your poison and stop acting like the sky is falling.

There are better ECNL teams
There are better DA teams
There are better conference
There are better divsions

Am I telling you something new?

Where did I ever imply that the sky is falling? I said the Mid Atlantic is a weak ECNL Conference and I demonstrated the ways that it is a weak Conference. My initial point has not yet been disproved.

You dont see the failure in your anaylsis and never will. So let's change the discussion for a second.

For someone who puts so much time effort into looking up numbers to make a point, can you give us a local alternative.

That is easy. The one closest to home where your kid is a starter. DA, ECNL, it doesn't matter. There are no power house clubs here and there are no power league conferences.

As I said all along.

It's all team (age group) specific not club specific. The MA teams are national contenders. Some are not.

Just when we find some common ground you go and say the bolded above.

Few MA teams are national contenders. Most are not AND I'll add, never will be.

Each conference has a few teams that are contenders. Does your DD play in the DA or something?

We've gone over the numbers. 4, the answer is 4 teams out of the MA that reached the Quarter Finals. 4 teams out of 96 teams in the quarter finals. I consider a "contender" to have at least reached the quarter finals. I say this because it eliminates qualifying for nationals due to a weak conference because you have win out of your group to advance to the quarters.

2 were in the national championship. You keep leaving that out of your equation. Any reason? I assume it doesnt fit your narrative.

You are a MU DA parent, right.

I'm not leaving them out of the equation but the Quarter Finals represent the strength of a Conference. The National Title game in and of itself is simply representative of the individual teams. A strong conference will have multiple teams make the Quarter Finals. A strong team can be an outlier, get a lucky run, just be uniquely dominant in way that does not represent the the overall strength of the Conference they play in.

We would never accuse the AFC East of being a particularly strong Division because of the New England Patriots. But the New England Patriots are a unique team. But the AFC West is a stronger division based on the number of playoff qualifying teams yet no Super Bowl appearances.

The real team to watch in the MA is the VDA 06 team. They killed it in a weak Conference but beat some big kids on their way to the finals. Losing 5-0 to PDA either is just a bad outing or demonstrates a real gap.

After that you have the Richmond 04 team. There isn't really another team in the MA that will be in the conversation for a National title much less reaching the Quarter Finals regularly.

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Anonymous wrote:PDA is an outlier and represents the strength of the NE Conference.

Take a look at the NE U15 standings as an example of your claim being wrong.

PDA finished in 3rd. The top 6 records in the U15 standards are:
10-3-1
10-3-1
9-2-3
9-2-3
9-2-3
9-3-2

That looks like a Conference that can do battle with PDA.

Lets look at the U16s in the NE:
10-1-3
10-3-1
9-2-3
9-3-2
8-3-3
7-4-3

PDA has two teams in this age group and finished 3rd and 4th.

U17s:
12-2
11-1-2
11-1-2
9-1-4
8-3-3
7-4-3

PDA finished 2nd.

So exactly what makes PDA such an outlier? The North East is just a flat out strong Conference. The Mid Atlantic is not. As a matter of fact, the U13s and U14s are the only 1st place conference teams and they did it only within their Division. U13 and U14 are the only age groups to break up the conference by division to lesson travel at the younger age groups.

What is your point. The NE Division is probabley the strongest in the nation and will only get stronger next year. This has always been the case. You are adding Zero value.

It is answering the argument that PDA is an outlier based on the following quote "PDA is an outlier and represents the strength of the NE Conference."

The NE as a conference is only one of three very strong conferences. The Mid Atlantic is not included in that list. Just facts.

Neither is the DA Atlantic Division. In fact, the entire East Coast DA is downright horrible.

Florida= Horrible
Georgia = Tophat (nothing else)
South Carolina = Nothing
North Carolina = old Casl. (Nothing else)
Virginia = FCV (nothing else)
Maryland= Nothing really
PA = Penn Fusion (nothing else)
NJ = Cedar Stars (nothing else)
Conn = Horrible
All of New England = NEFC (nothing else)

That is the entire east coast of the United States of America my friend.

How does this make the Mid Atlantic better?

It doesnt make them better. It means pick your poison and stop acting like the sky is falling.

There are better ECNL teams
There are better DA teams
There are better conference
There are better divsions

Am I telling you something new?

Where did I ever imply that the sky is falling? I said the Mid Atlantic is a weak ECNL Conference and I demonstrated the ways that it is a weak Conference. My initial point has not yet been disproved.

You dont see the failure in your anaylsis and never will. So let's change the discussion for a second.

For someone who puts so much time effort into looking up numbers to make a point, can you give us a local alternative.

That is easy. The one closest to home where your kid is a starter. DA, ECNL, it doesn't matter. There are no power house clubs here and there are no power league conferences.

As I said all along.

It's all team (age group) specific not club specific. The MA teams are national contenders. Some are not.

Just when we find some common ground you go and say the bolded above.

Few MA teams are national contenders. Most are not AND I'll add, never will be.

Each conference has a few teams that are contenders. Does your DD play in the DA or something?

We've gone over the numbers. 4, the answer is 4 teams out of the MA that reached the Quarter Finals. 4 teams out of 96 teams in the quarter finals. I consider a "contender" to have at least reached the quarter finals. I say this because it eliminates qualifying for nationals due to a weak conference because you have win out of your group to advance to the quarters.

2 were in the national championship. You keep leaving that out of your equation. Any reason? I assume it doesnt fit your narrative.

You are a MU DA parent, right.

I'm not leaving them out of the equation but the Quarter Finals represent the strength of a Conference. The National Title game in and of itself is simply representative of the individual teams. A strong conference will have multiple teams make the Quarter Finals. A strong team can be an outlier, get a lucky run, just be uniquely dominant in way that does not represent the the overall strength of the Conference they play in.

We would never accuse the AFC East of being a particularly strong Division because of the New England Patriots. But the New England Patriots are a unique team. But the AFC West is a stronger division based on the number of playoff qualifying teams yet no Super Bowl appearances.

The real team to watch in the MA is the VDA 06 team. They killed it in a weak Conference but beat some big kids on their way to the finals. Losing 5-0 to PDA either is just a bad outing or demonstrates a real gap.

After that you have the Richmond 04 team. There isn't really another team in the MA that will be in the conversation for a National title much less reaching the Quarter Finals regularly.

And that post demonstrates how little you know about the local teams for next year.

Enjoy being the doormat in a weak DA divsion next year. Maybe you can post your accomplishment next season on social media after your daughters team beat LISC.

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What MA team is going to the show next year? Please enlighten us.

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Anonymous wrote:What MA team is going to the show next year? Please enlighten us.

DOORMAT!

Give me a D
Give me a o
Give me a o
Give me a r
Give me a m
Give me a a
Give me a t

What's that spell?

Doormat - Yay!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What MA team is going to the show next year? Please enlighten us.

Guess we shall see. That's what competetion is for. I know it's hard to embrace competetion coming from a bottom feeding club.

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Anonymous wrote:What MA team is going to the show next year? Please enlighten us.

Guess we shall see. That's what competetion is for. I know it's hard to embrace competetion coming from a bottom feeding club.

So you won’t hazard to make a guess. Got it.

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That is easy. The one closest to home where your kid is a starter. DA, ECNL, it doesn't matter. There are no power house clubs here and there are no power league conferences.

As I said all along.

It's all team (age group) specific not club specific. The MA teams are national contenders. Some are not.

Just when we find some common ground you go and say the bolded above.

Few MA teams are national contenders. Most are not AND I'll add, never will be.

Wow, this dude really has an axe to grind against ECNL MA ? Did someone hurt your DD, or are you attempting to justify your DA club choice?

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That is easy. The one closest to home where your kid is a starter. DA, ECNL, it doesn't matter. There are no power house clubs here and there are no power league conferences.

As I said all along.

It's all team (age group) specific not club specific. The MA teams are national contenders. Some are not.

Just when we find some common ground you go and say the bolded above.

Few MA teams are national contenders. Most are not AND I'll add, never will be.

Wow, this dude really has an axe to grind against ECNL MA ? Did someone hurt your DD, or are you attempting to justify your DA club choice?

“Never will be” was a bit harsh. Perhaps 07 VDA, McLean, Richmond and Loudoun will represent but none of the older local teams.

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Anonymous wrote:What MA team is going to the show next year? Please enlighten us.

Guess we shall see. That's what competetion is for. I know it's hard to embrace competetion coming from a bottom feeding club.

So you won’t hazard to make a guess. Got it.

Will your club have a positive goal differential this year. Negative 200 is a wee bit embarrassing, no?

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Anonymous wrote:How many FCV teams advanced to the quarterfinals?

What is the point of this?

FCV at any DA/Ecnl age group is top in the area. So trashing them is idiotic unless you’re from a club in another far-away region like the west coast. Any other club in THIS area would kill for FCVs talent.

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Anonymous wrote:How many FCV teams advanced to the quarterfinals?

What is the point of this?

FCV at any DA/Ecnl age group is top in the area. So trashing them is idiotic unless you’re from a club in another far-away region like the west coast. Any other club in THIS area would kill for FCVs talent.

Read the gosh dang thread and maybe you will understand. Jumping in in the middle of all these post is idiotoic.

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Anonymous wrote:How many FCV teams advanced to the quarterfinals?

What is the point of this?

FCV at any DA/Ecnl age group is top in the area. So trashing them is idiotic unless you’re from a club in another far-away region like the west coast. Any other club in THIS area would kill for FCVs talent.

Read the gosh dang thread and maybe you will understand. Jumping in in the middle of all these post is idiotoic.

But you’re saying it like people have a choice for a nationally competitive team in this area. But you’re not willing to drive 40 minutes to train? Because they’re so many options. We aren’t nationally competitive exactly because we have too many “elite” teams without enough elite players nor coaches.

Get rid of one DA and 3 ecnl clubs In the 90 minute radius and then we may be able to compete.