Republicans want a Potemkin hearing for Christine Blasey Ford

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Anonymous wrote:Hey everyone, I yelled at a kid in middle school and pushed him into a wall. This was like a 2 minute incident. If I’m up for Senate confirmation in the future, let’s get the FBI to look into that because maybe it’s assault and battery!!!!


Go ahead, keep dismissing men assaults of women. You will lose women’s votes forever.


Good thing I still have own vote then because I’m a woman.


Still losing the votes of women when you dismiss them like that, so great ahead. Your vote won’t make up for all the others you’ll lose.

Too many of us who were assaulted or have loved ones who were assaulted and we believe Dr Ford because we’ve been there and know women rarely make up something like this. Who wants to offer themselves up to extra harassment and death threats?


Eugene Kanin at Purdue conducted a study that showed, according to police reports from one city, that 41% of rape claims were untrue, and a full 50% of claims at two universities were untrue. Other researchers have come up with similar numbers for false rape accusations: Gregory and Lees, 1996: 45%. Jordan, 2004: 41%. Chambers and Millar, 1983: 22.4%, Grace et al., 1992: 24%. McDowell and Hibler, 1985: 27%. Buckley, 1992: 25%. Washington Post, Virginia and Maryland, 1991: 25%. Even the lowest number is TEN TIMES the number of false rape allegations that feminists will admit to.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8135653
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Anonymous wrote:The process is nonsense if they don't separate the witnesses, allow the testimony of Ford's therapist and husband, allow introduction of supporting documents they may have, allow Judge to be subpoenaed, and permit the cross-examination of Kavanaugh under oath. That much process, at least, is due.


Yeah, it’s almost like there should be some system set up to... OH WAIT! She can PRESS CHARGES in Maryland if she cares to. A judicial confirmation is not a forum for reinventing criminal process.


Different processes for different functions. A criminal proceeding is the process for wrongdoing that the State can prove beyond a reasonable doubt which justifies the State depriving an individual of his or her liberty. A civil proceeding is the process for wrongdoing that a civilian can prove by a preponderance of evidence to obtain money from the wrongdoer. Nobody is proposing having the State deprive him of his liberty. Ford doesn't want money out of him.

This process is to determine whether Kavanaugh meets the high qualifications we should expect when elevating a person to a lifetime position as one of the most powerful people in the world. In the criminal proceeding, the thumb is on the scale in favor of the accused. In the civil proceeding, the scales are balanced. In this proceeding, given what's at stake, the scales should be stacked against the nominee so that only those of the highest caliber qualify.


I don’t agree with your suggestion of what “highest caliber candidate” means. Kavanaugh is ridiculously, exceptionally qualified. This distant vague allegation, brought at the last minute in a ridiculously high-stakes environment that’s turning into a referendum on Roe v. Wade, does not mean he’s not of the highest caliber as far as judges go. Jesus, the man already has a lifetime appointment on a hugely important court. Why didn’t the accuser speak up then? Oh right, because this is just politics and it’s all about Roe v. Wade.


He's not ridiculously qualified. Look at his febrile attachment to the Clinton/Vince Foster murder conspiracy theory and his creepy need to know about Monica Lewinski's orgasms, her vagina, and Bill Clinton's ejaculate.

Merrick Garland was ridiculously qualified and didn't get the seat.


Garland was qualified, too. They’re both fine. The GOP block at least was rules-based. This Dem assault is embarrassing identity politics and they will pay in November.


Alleged sexual assault is now "identity politics"? Who is on the other side of that one?


The way the Dems have handled it is absolutely identity politics.
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Anonymous wrote:Hey everyone, I yelled at a kid in middle school and pushed him into a wall. This was like a 2 minute incident. If I’m up for Senate confirmation in the future, let’s get the FBI to look into that because maybe it’s assault and battery!!!!


Go ahead, keep dismissing men assaults of women. You will lose women’s votes forever.


Good thing I still have own vote then because I’m a woman.


Still losing the votes of women when you dismiss them like that, so great ahead. Your vote won’t make up for all the others you’ll lose.

Too many of us who were assaulted or have loved ones who were assaulted and we believe Dr Ford because we’ve been there and know women rarely make up something like this. Who wants to offer themselves up to extra harassment and death threats?


Eugene Kanin at Purdue conducted a study that showed, according to police reports from one city, that 41% of rape claims were untrue, and a full 50% of claims at two universities were untrue. Other researchers have come up with similar numbers for false rape accusations: Gregory and Lees, 1996: 45%. Jordan, 2004: 41%. Chambers and Millar, 1983: 22.4%, Grace et al., 1992: 24%. McDowell and Hibler, 1985: 27%. Buckley, 1992: 25%. Washington Post, Virginia and Maryland, 1991: 25%. Even the lowest number is TEN TIMES the number of false rape allegations that feminists will admit to.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8135653


Seriously, I’m so sick of this notion that women don’t lie or exaggerate these things. Women are complicated, flawed humans just like men. We lie. We exaggerate. We misremember. Grow up, people.
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Anonymous wrote:Hey everyone, I yelled at a kid in middle school and pushed him into a wall. This was like a 2 minute incident. If I’m up for Senate confirmation in the future, let’s get the FBI to look into that because maybe it’s assault and battery!!!!


Go ahead, keep dismissing men assaults of women. You will lose women’s votes forever.


Good thing I still have own vote then because I’m a woman.


Still losing the votes of women when you dismiss them like that, so great ahead. Your vote won’t make up for all the others you’ll lose.

Too many of us who were assaulted or have loved ones who were assaulted and we believe Dr Ford because we’ve been there and know women rarely make up something like this. Who wants to offer themselves up to extra harassment and death threats?


Eugene Kanin at Purdue conducted a study that showed, according to police reports from one city, that 41% of rape claims were untrue, and a full 50% of claims at two universities were untrue. Other researchers have come up with similar numbers for false rape accusations: Gregory and Lees, 1996: 45%. Jordan, 2004: 41%. Chambers and Millar, 1983: 22.4%, Grace et al., 1992: 24%. McDowell and Hibler, 1985: 27%. Buckley, 1992: 25%. Washington Post, Virginia and Maryland, 1991: 25%. Even the lowest number is TEN TIMES the number of false rape allegations that feminists will admit to.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8135653


That’s because they look at several studies instead of your one. The number of false accusations is far less than 10 percent in all of them. You’ve found an outlier.
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Anonymous wrote:Hey everyone, I yelled at a kid in middle school and pushed him into a wall. This was like a 2 minute incident. If I’m up for Senate confirmation in the future, let’s get the FBI to look into that because maybe it’s assault and battery!!!!


Go ahead, keep dismissing men assaults of women. You will lose women’s votes forever.


Good thing I still have own vote then because I’m a woman.


Still losing the votes of women when you dismiss them like that, so great ahead. Your vote won’t make up for all the others you’ll lose.

Too many of us who were assaulted or have loved ones who were assaulted and we believe Dr Ford because we’ve been there and know women rarely make up something like this. Who wants to offer themselves up to extra harassment and death threats?


Eugene Kanin at Purdue conducted a study that showed, according to police reports from one city, that 41% of rape claims were untrue, and a full 50% of claims at two universities were untrue. Other researchers have come up with similar numbers for false rape accusations: Gregory and Lees, 1996: 45%. Jordan, 2004: 41%. Chambers and Millar, 1983: 22.4%, Grace et al., 1992: 24%. McDowell and Hibler, 1985: 27%. Buckley, 1992: 25%. Washington Post, Virginia and Maryland, 1991: 25%. Even the lowest number is TEN TIMES the number of false rape allegations that feminists will admit to.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8135653


Seriously, I’m so sick of this notion that women don’t lie or exaggerate these things. Women are complicated, flawed humans just like men. We lie. We exaggerate. We misremember. Grow up, people.


That’s why an investigation follows accusations.
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Anonymous wrote:I think she should go on TV and tell her story directly to the public. She should explain what's going on, why she wants an FBI investigation. She should talk about why she came forward about this alleged incident now. She should explain why this alleged incident ought to disqualify Kavanaugh from the Supreme Court.

If the GOP will not investigate and insists on this fake "fact-finding" hearing, Ms. Ford should take the case to the American people. She should not take this extreme bullying on the part of old GOP men lying down, pardon the expression.


Yes, and she should take questions from the same public. Like: how do you not recall the year of this incident? Why don’t you know whose home you were in? Or how you got to the party? Or got home? Let the public, court of public opinion, know these answers.


I went to a number of parties in high school and college and even after college where I couldn't tell you who owned the house / the exact location, the year, how I actually got there (who drove) etc.. And such memories for specific details get worse the older you get, sorry to report.


Drunk people do not have great memories.


I'm not much of a drinker, sorry! Not even in high school and college. And I still can't remember such little details. I can tell you what conversations I had and who was there with me. But not where the party was.

Wait until you hit 50.
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Then press charges. Congress is not obligated to “investigate” this allegation in the precise way you like. Neither is the FBI.
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Anonymous wrote:Hey everyone, I yelled at a kid in middle school and pushed him into a wall. This was like a 2 minute incident. If I’m up for Senate confirmation in the future, let’s get the FBI to look into that because maybe it’s assault and battery!!!!


Go ahead, keep dismissing men assaults of women. You will lose women’s votes forever.


Good thing I still have own vote then because I’m a woman.


Still losing the votes of women when you dismiss them like that, so great ahead. Your vote won’t make up for all the others you’ll lose.

Too many of us who were assaulted or have loved ones who were assaulted and we believe Dr Ford because we’ve been there and know women rarely make up something like this. Who wants to offer themselves up to extra harassment and death threats?


Eugene Kanin at Purdue conducted a study that showed, according to police reports from one city, that 41% of rape claims were untrue, and a full 50% of claims at two universities were untrue. Other researchers have come up with similar numbers for false rape accusations: Gregory and Lees, 1996: 45%. Jordan, 2004: 41%. Chambers and Millar, 1983: 22.4%, Grace et al., 1992: 24%. McDowell and Hibler, 1985: 27%. Buckley, 1992: 25%. Washington Post, Virginia and Maryland, 1991: 25%. Even the lowest number is TEN TIMES the number of false rape allegations that feminists will admit to.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8135653


Seriously, I’m so sick of this notion that women don’t lie or exaggerate these things. Women are complicated, flawed humans just like men. We lie. We exaggerate. We misremember. Grow up, people.


That’s why an investigation follows accusations.


The man has a background investigation. He’s probably had multiple ones over the years given his government positions. This 11th hour nonsense is not entitled to a delay so federal authorities can go recreate some dumb pool party and read your yearbook.
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Anonymous wrote:Then press charges. Congress is not obligated to “investigate” this allegation in the precise way you like. Neither is the FBI.


Congress is literally obligated to advise and consent. Not rubber-stamp.
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The man has a background investigation. He’s probably had multiple ones over the years given his government positions. This 11th hour nonsense is not entitled to a delay so federal authorities can go recreate some dumb pool party and read your yearbook.


There's no eleventh hour. There's no deadline.

And there's been no investigation of this allegation. That's the point.
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Anonymous wrote:Hey everyone, I yelled at a kid in middle school and pushed him into a wall. This was like a 2 minute incident. If I’m up for Senate confirmation in the future, let’s get the FBI to look into that because maybe it’s assault and battery!!!!


Go ahead, keep dismissing men assaults of women. You will lose women’s votes forever.


Good thing I still have own vote then because I’m a woman.


Still losing the votes of women when you dismiss them like that, so great ahead. Your vote won’t make up for all the others you’ll lose.

Too many of us who were assaulted or have loved ones who were assaulted and we believe Dr Ford because we’ve been there and know women rarely make up something like this. Who wants to offer themselves up to extra harassment and death threats?


Eugene Kanin at Purdue conducted a study that showed, according to police reports from one city, that 41% of rape claims were untrue, and a full 50% of claims at two universities were untrue. Other researchers have come up with similar numbers for false rape accusations: Gregory and Lees, 1996: 45%. Jordan, 2004: 41%. Chambers and Millar, 1983: 22.4%, Grace et al., 1992: 24%. McDowell and Hibler, 1985: 27%. Buckley, 1992: 25%. Washington Post, Virginia and Maryland, 1991: 25%. Even the lowest number is TEN TIMES the number of false rape allegations that feminists will admit to.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8135653


Do you also believe those people accusing priests of molestation are lying, too?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Then press charges. Congress is not obligated to “investigate” this allegation in the precise way you like. Neither is the FBI.


They are if they want the truth. Clearly you don’t so why pretend.
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Anonymous wrote:Hey everyone, I yelled at a kid in middle school and pushed him into a wall. This was like a 2 minute incident. If I’m up for Senate confirmation in the future, let’s get the FBI to look into that because maybe it’s assault and battery!!!!


Go ahead, keep dismissing men assaults of women. You will lose women’s votes forever.


Good thing I still have own vote then because I’m a woman.


Still losing the votes of women when you dismiss them like that, so great ahead. Your vote won’t make up for all the others you’ll lose.

Too many of us who were assaulted or have loved ones who were assaulted and we believe Dr Ford because we’ve been there and know women rarely make up something like this. Who wants to offer themselves up to extra harassment and death threats?


Eugene Kanin at Purdue conducted a study that showed, according to police reports from one city, that 41% of rape claims were untrue, and a full 50% of claims at two universities were untrue. Other researchers have come up with similar numbers for false rape accusations: Gregory and Lees, 1996: 45%. Jordan, 2004: 41%. Chambers and Millar, 1983: 22.4%, Grace et al., 1992: 24%. McDowell and Hibler, 1985: 27%. Buckley, 1992: 25%. Washington Post, Virginia and Maryland, 1991: 25%. Even the lowest number is TEN TIMES the number of false rape allegations that feminists will admit to.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8135653


Do you also believe those people accusing priests of molestation are lying, too?


Beats me, I haven't look at the evidence.

I don't have an opinion on things I haven't studied sufficiently.
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Studied sufficiently? You mean like an actual investigation?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hey everyone, I yelled at a kid in middle school and pushed him into a wall. This was like a 2 minute incident. If I’m up for Senate confirmation in the future, let’s get the FBI to look into that because maybe it’s assault and battery!!!!


Go ahead, keep dismissing men assaults of women. You will lose women’s votes forever.


Good thing I still have own vote then because I’m a woman.


Still losing the votes of women when you dismiss them like that, so great ahead. Your vote won’t make up for all the others you’ll lose.

Too many of us who were assaulted or have loved ones who were assaulted and we believe Dr Ford because we’ve been there and know women rarely make up something like this. Who wants to offer themselves up to extra harassment and death threats?


Plus a billion.

She is NOT making this up. She's an educated woman with a family and a successful career. Why, oh, why would she want to damage all that by making up a story like this? If she were insane, maybe, but there has been no evidence put forward that she's insane. Of course, if there were an FBI investigation, that could determine whether or not she showes signs of mental illness.

It's Kavanaugh who is lying, clearly. He has every motivation to lie, and she has none.

An FBI investigation could determine the facts.

The innocent do not fear an investigation. The guilty have much to lose.

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