How come right wing people don't have their own Harvards?

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Anonymous wrote:OP here the reason I ask is that the right seems to be fixated on admissions to schools like HYP and affirmative action. Why do they even want to be there? Why not just have right wing school with stellar academics, envy of everyone, plus no affirmative action? My theory is that they are simply incapable of duplicating the same caliber of school. They are loud, but not very patient or hard working.

As it's already been pointed out, academics with no real-life experience tend to gravitate to political liberals. It has more to do with the type of people who gravitate to the life of the university - and nothing to do with the silly idea that political conservatives have no financial means of supporting a university.

Do you have experience at elite universities? You couldn't be more wrong.

Also, PP wasn't saying conservatives don't have the financial means to support a university; the issue is that right-wing politics (contemporarily conceived -- not right wing in the traditional sense, such as fiscal conservatism) are essentially incompatible with the culture of intellectual inquiry elite universities try to cultivate.

+1 Many Trumpsters say they want to go back to the way American used to be. Conservatives do not like change (progress) of any sort. They don't like the fact that automation has killed jobs (never mind that it has created more high paying jobs); they don't like that women want more equality, or (gasp) gays. They don't like that science has taken over religiosity (think Isaac Newton, but on a smaller scale); they want our teens to stay ignorant about their bodies and sex so don't want sex ed taught in schools.

Not all conservatives are like this. There are sane ones, but the current R party seems to have been overtaken by these extreme conservatives they hate any kind of progress or enlightened thinking.

This is just so astonishingly wrong! Conservatives believe primarily in the original constitutional/separation of powers that gives more power to the states and less to the federal government. Once you understand that, everything falls into place. Abortion, school education, gay marriage = all should be handled by the states and not the bloated federal government. The fifty states are supposed to be incubators working on issues to the best they can and to please their own state voters. The federal government is not supposed to be this big bloated inefficient bureaucracy. The federal government is supposed to be in control of only what the states cannot handle: postage, U.S. postal service, minimal federal taxation to keep a small federal government going, and raising an army. Many agencies should not even exist (many were created by Carter) because the states should be handling these issues on their own. Conservatives DO like change, which is why some of the changes Trump is making (cutting taxes, cutting agency spending, streamlining agencies) are in line with conservative thought. We must end the debt or at least become responsible about it. I have never heard a conservative say they don't like the fact that automation has killed jobs - that's nonsense. What they don't like is that the current burden of taxation has sent many American companies overseas. Bringing them back has nothing to do with automation and it's necessary to create jobs in the USA. Of course they want to treat women equally. I am one (although not a Trumper) I've had a brilliant career - no conservative has ever said they don't want women treated equally. And of course we don't want teens "to stay ignorant about their bodies and sex so don't want sex ed taught in schools". Where is that from? What we don't want is the federal government ordering public schools in the states as to what they should do. State and County public schools make those decisions in line with what the voters want. And besides, we all had sex ed in school even if we are "old" by DCUM standards and had it back in the 70s, so I don't know what you are talking about. It's unthinking statements like PP that just shows how wrong civics education has become in this country and how ignorant the left is about what conservatism is all about.

So in your perfect world slavery would still be a state by state decision.

Slavery, Jim Crow laws were enforced by state and local laws. In the perfect world, gov't - whether federal, state, local - has no such role. It would be a minimal state, night watchman state. Such gov't, whether federal, state, or local, would have no business enforcing slavery.

Aren’t governments supposed to protect property rights?

And protect human rights. But since you brought it up, if you see a slave as property, fine. Keep in mind that no where is it written that only black people can be slaves.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here the reason I ask is that the right seems to be fixated on admissions to schools like HYP and affirmative action. Why do they even want to be there? Why not just have right wing school with stellar academics, envy of everyone, plus no affirmative action? My theory is that they are simply incapable of duplicating the same caliber of school. They are loud, but not very patient or hard working.

As it's already been pointed out, academics with no real-life experience tend to gravitate to political liberals. It has more to do with the type of people who gravitate to the life of the university - and nothing to do with the silly idea that political conservatives have no financial means of supporting a university.

Do you have experience at elite universities? You couldn't be more wrong.

Also, PP wasn't saying conservatives don't have the financial means to support a university; the issue is that right-wing politics (contemporarily conceived -- not right wing in the traditional sense, such as fiscal conservatism) are essentially incompatible with the culture of intellectual inquiry elite universities try to cultivate.

+1 Many Trumpsters say they want to go back to the way American used to be. Conservatives do not like change (progress) of any sort. They don't like the fact that automation has killed jobs (never mind that it has created more high paying jobs); they don't like that women want more equality, or (gasp) gays. They don't like that science has taken over religiosity (think Isaac Newton, but on a smaller scale); they want our teens to stay ignorant about their bodies and sex so don't want sex ed taught in schools.

Not all conservatives are like this. There are sane ones, but the current R party seems to have been overtaken by these extreme conservatives they hate any kind of progress or enlightened thinking.

This is just so astonishingly wrong! Conservatives believe primarily in the original constitutional/separation of powers that gives more power to the states and less to the federal government. Once you understand that, everything falls into place. Abortion, school education, gay marriage = all should be handled by the states and not the bloated federal government. The fifty states are supposed to be incubators working on issues to the best they can and to please their own state voters. The federal government is not supposed to be this big bloated inefficient bureaucracy. The federal government is supposed to be in control of only what the states cannot handle: postage, U.S. postal service, minimal federal taxation to keep a small federal government going, and raising an army. Many agencies should not even exist (many were created by Carter) because the states should be handling these issues on their own. Conservatives DO like change, which is why some of the changes Trump is making (cutting taxes, cutting agency spending, streamlining agencies) are in line with conservative thought. We must end the debt or at least become responsible about it. I have never heard a conservative say they don't like the fact that automation has killed jobs - that's nonsense. What they don't like is that the current burden of taxation has sent many American companies overseas. Bringing them back has nothing to do with automation and it's necessary to create jobs in the USA. Of course they want to treat women equally. I am one (although not a Trumper) I've had a brilliant career - no conservative has ever said they don't want women treated equally. And of course we don't want teens "to stay ignorant about their bodies and sex so don't want sex ed taught in schools". Where is that from? What we don't want is the federal government ordering public schools in the states as to what they should do. State and County public schools make those decisions in line with what the voters want. And besides, we all had sex ed in school even if we are "old" by DCUM standards and had it back in the 70s, so I don't know what you are talking about. It's unthinking statements like PP that just shows how wrong civics education has become in this country and how ignorant the left is about what conservatism is all about.

So in your perfect world slavery would still be a state by state decision.[/quote]


Of course not. Don't be absurd. I'm clearly talking about today. And Lincoln was a Republican. it was the southern democrats who wanted to keep their slaves.

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard MBA is majority conservative. Same with Wharton. Princeton has a lot of old $$$$ from the South and guess what they vote.

Um, not sure what you’re basing this on? I just graduated from Wharton in May and a number of professors had to cancel classes the day after the election because so many students couldn’t make class due to of how distraught they were about Trump. Throughout all of 2017, students literally cried in the halls about the election, to the point where a handful of more conservative veterans felt “repressed.” I have tons of friends at HBS too, and it’s mosy assuredly not “majority” conservative..

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Anonymous wrote:OP here the reason I ask is that the right seems to be fixated on admissions to schools like HYP and affirmative action. Why do they even want to be there? Why not just have right wing school with stellar academics, envy of everyone, plus no affirmative action? My theory is that they are simply incapable of duplicating the same caliber of school. They are loud, but not very patient or hard working.

As it's already been pointed out, academics with no real-life experience tend to gravitate to political liberals. It has more to do with the type of people who gravitate to the life of the university - and nothing to do with the silly idea that political conservatives have no financial means of supporting a university.

Do you have experience at elite universities? You couldn't be more wrong.

Also, PP wasn't saying conservatives don't have the financial means to support a university; the issue is that right-wing politics (contemporarily conceived -- not right wing in the traditional sense, such as fiscal conservatism) are essentially incompatible with the culture of intellectual inquiry elite universities try to cultivate.

+1 Many Trumpsters say they want to go back to the way American used to be. Conservatives do not like change (progress) of any sort. They don't like the fact that automation has killed jobs (never mind that it has created more high paying jobs); they don't like that women want more equality, or (gasp) gays. They don't like that science has taken over religiosity (think Isaac Newton, but on a smaller scale); they want our teens to stay ignorant about their bodies and sex so don't want sex ed taught in schools.

Not all conservatives are like this. There are sane ones, but the current R party seems to have been overtaken by these extreme conservatives they hate any kind of progress or enlightened thinking.

This is just so astonishingly wrong! Conservatives believe primarily in the original constitutional/separation of powers that gives more power to the states and less to the federal government. Once you understand that, everything falls into place. Abortion, school education, gay marriage = all should be handled by the states and not the bloated federal government. The fifty states are supposed to be incubators working on issues to the best they can and to please their own state voters. The federal government is not supposed to be this big bloated inefficient bureaucracy. The federal government is supposed to be in control of only what the states cannot handle: postage, U.S. postal service, minimal federal taxation to keep a small federal government going, and raising an army. Many agencies should not even exist (many were created by Carter) because the states should be handling these issues on their own. Conservatives DO like change, which is why some of the changes Trump is making (cutting taxes, cutting agency spending, streamlining agencies) are in line with conservative thought. We must end the debt or at least become responsible about it. I have never heard a conservative say they don't like the fact that automation has killed jobs - that's nonsense. What they don't like is that the current burden of taxation has sent many American companies overseas. Bringing them back has nothing to do with automation and it's necessary to create jobs in the USA. Of course they want to treat women equally. I am one (although not a Trumper) I've had a brilliant career - no conservative has ever said they don't want women treated equally. And of course we don't want teens "to stay ignorant about their bodies and sex so don't want sex ed taught in schools". Where is that from? What we don't want is the federal government ordering public schools in the states as to what they should do. State and County public schools make those decisions in line with what the voters want. And besides, we all had sex ed in school even if we are "old" by DCUM standards and had it back in the 70s, so I don't know what you are talking about. It's unthinking statements like PP that just shows how wrong civics education has become in this country and how ignorant the left is about what conservatism is all about.

So in your perfect world slavery would still be a state by state decision.

Slavery, Jim Crow laws were enforced by state and local laws. In the perfect world, gov't - whether federal, state, local - has no such role. It would be a minimal state, night watchman state. Such gov't, whether federal, state, or local, would have no business enforcing slavery.

Aren’t governments supposed to protect property rights?

Uh, we are not a democracy - 50% + 1 can't enslave a minority group of people in this country. We are a republic where people's basic rights trump mob rule. Read your history.

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Anonymous wrote:Conservatives study science, technology, engineering, medicine, etc. That's why we make all the money. We don't need your kind of schools, thank you.

Then why do conservatives eschew climate change, science and evolution?

This is truly one of the dumbest posts I’ve ever read here.

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Hiring and tenure decisions are key. The left has controlled such matters at all but a few top ranked schools for decades and decades. Harvard, for instance, has one octogenarian right if center professor in its Government Department.

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Anonymous wrote:Hiring and tenure decisions are key. The left has controlled such matters at all but a few top ranked schools for decades and decades. Harvard, for instance, has one octogenarian right if center professor in its Government Department.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd bet 50-70% of Dartmouth and Penn are republicans. My daughter said "everyone" in Wharton is a right winger.

That’s false.

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Anonymous wrote:My class at wharton was entirely republican. Maybe not trumpian, but certainly right of center. Penn itself seemed pretty conservative also.

I can’t recall meeting a single faculty member or student at Penn who was right of center.

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The campus left pushes restrictions on free speech.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here the reason I ask is that the right seems to be fixated on admissions to schools like HYP and affirmative action. Why do they even want to be there? Why not just have right wing school with stellar academics, envy of everyone, plus no affirmative action? My theory is that they are simply incapable of duplicating the same caliber of school. They are loud, but not very patient or hard working.

As it's already been pointed out, academics with no real-life experience tend to gravitate to political liberals. It has more to do with the type of people who gravitate to the life of the university - and nothing to do with the silly idea that political conservatives have no financial means of supporting a university.

Do you have experience at elite universities? You couldn't be more wrong.

Also, PP wasn't saying conservatives don't have the financial means to support a university; the issue is that right-wing politics (contemporarily conceived -- not right wing in the traditional sense, such as fiscal conservatism) are essentially incompatible with the culture of intellectual inquiry elite universities try to cultivate.

+1 Many Trumpsters say they want to go back to the way American used to be. Conservatives do not like change (progress) of any sort. They don't like the fact that automation has killed jobs (never mind that it has created more high paying jobs); they don't like that women want more equality, or (gasp) gays. They don't like that science has taken over religiosity (think Isaac Newton, but on a smaller scale); they want our teens to stay ignorant about their bodies and sex so don't want sex ed taught in schools.

Not all conservatives are like this. There are sane ones, but the current R party seems to have been overtaken by these extreme conservatives they hate any kind of progress or enlightened thinking.

Trump supports the current lawsuit against Harvard.

Do YOU support anti-Asian American systemic racial discrimination?

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Anonymous wrote:I'd bet 50-70% of Dartmouth and Penn are republicans. My daughter said "everyone" in Wharton is a right winger.

That’s false.

+1. So many ignorant posters on this idiotic site. Dartmouth grad and I can tell you with authority that you’re an idiot. The College is at most 20% conservative.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here the reason I ask is that the right seems to be fixated on admissions to schools like HYP and affirmative action. Why do they even want to be there? Why not just have right wing school with stellar academics, envy of everyone, plus no affirmative action? My theory is that they are simply incapable of duplicating the same caliber of school. They are loud, but not very patient or hard working.

As it's already been pointed out, academics with no real-life experience tend to gravitate to political liberals. It has more to do with the type of people who gravitate to the life of the university - and nothing to do with the silly idea that political conservatives have no financial means of supporting a university.

Do you have experience at elite universities? You couldn't be more wrong.

Also, PP wasn't saying conservatives don't have the financial means to support a university; the issue is that right-wing politics (contemporarily conceived -- not right wing in the traditional sense, such as fiscal conservatism) are essentially incompatible with the culture of intellectual inquiry elite universities try to cultivate.

+1 Many Trumpsters say they want to go back to the way American used to be. Conservatives do not like change (progress) of any sort. They don't like the fact that automation has killed jobs (never mind that it has created more high paying jobs); they don't like that women want more equality, or (gasp) gays. They don't like that science has taken over religiosity (think Isaac Newton, but on a smaller scale); they want our teens to stay ignorant about their bodies and sex so don't want sex ed taught in schools.

Not all conservatives are like this. There are sane ones, but the current R party seems to have been overtaken by these extreme conservatives they hate any kind of progress or enlightened thinking.

Trump supports the current lawsuit against Harvard.

Do YOU support anti-Asian American systemic racial discrimination?

Trump and his administration support the lawsuit against Harvard - he does not support anti-Asian American systematic racial discrimination. In fact, he supports justice, equality, freedom, and prosperity for all Americans.

Unemployment has been the lowest in memory, including for African-Americans. The stock market's been up at least 30% since his inauguration.

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Anonymous wrote:Another question: why don't Asians have their own Harvards?
They have to money to set up such a school today.
From what they say, there are tons of highly qualified Asian academicians to support the student body and faculty.
This could all happen overnight. Merit based admissions only
Or is it that some people who complain about Harvard, simply do not have the wear with all or the patience to do such a thing? Are the same groups who are complaining about the admission policies too focused on fast money to pay attention to slower paced academics?

They don't have to. They just use the system to over turn affirmative action. See prop 209 in CA.

It should occur to people that cut throat individuals, who study all day long, to get into elite universities, to make ons of money, to give nothing back are exactly what HYP does not want.

It should occur to people that stereotyping is what got Harvard in this mess, and that stereotyping blacks as too dumb or lazy to get in on their own merit is as bad as stereotyping Asians as greedy selfish people. However, what is wrong with studying hard? Maybe if everyone studied harder they wouldn't need affirmative action today?

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Anonymous wrote:OP here the reason I ask is that the right seems to be fixated on admissions to schools like HYP and affirmative action. Why do they even want to be there? Why not just have right wing school with stellar academics, envy of everyone, plus no affirmative action? My theory is that they are simply incapable of duplicating the same caliber of school. They are loud, but not very patient or hard working.

As it's already been pointed out, academics with no real-life experience tend to gravitate to political liberals. It has more to do with the type of people who gravitate to the life of the university - and nothing to do with the silly idea that political conservatives have no financial means of supporting a university.

Do you have experience at elite universities? You couldn't be more wrong.

Also, PP wasn't saying conservatives don't have the financial means to support a university; the issue is that right-wing politics (contemporarily conceived -- not right wing in the traditional sense, such as fiscal conservatism) are essentially incompatible with the culture of intellectual inquiry elite universities try to cultivate.

+1 Many Trumpsters say they want to go back to the way American used to be. Conservatives do not like change (progress) of any sort. They don't like the fact that automation has killed jobs (never mind that it has created more high paying jobs); they don't like that women want more equality, or (gasp) gays. They don't like that science has taken over religiosity (think Isaac Newton, but on a smaller scale); they want our teens to stay ignorant about their bodies and sex so don't want sex ed taught in schools.

Not all conservatives are like this. There are sane ones, but the current R party seems to have been overtaken by these extreme conservatives they hate any kind of progress or enlightened thinking.

This is just so astonishingly wrong! Conservatives believe primarily in the original constitutional/separation of powers that gives more power to the states and less to the federal government. Once you understand that, everything falls into place. Abortion, school education, gay marriage = all should be handled by the states and not the bloated federal government. The fifty states are supposed to be incubators working on issues to the best they can and to please their own state voters. The federal government is not supposed to be this big bloated inefficient bureaucracy. The federal government is supposed to be in control of only what the states cannot handle: postage, U.S. postal service, minimal federal taxation to keep a small federal government going, and raising an army. Many agencies should not even exist (many were created by Carter) because the states should be handling these issues on their own. Conservatives DO like change, which is why some of the changes Trump is making (cutting taxes, cutting agency spending, streamlining agencies) are in line with conservative thought. We must end the debt or at least become responsible about it. I have never heard a conservative say they don't like the fact that automation has killed jobs - that's nonsense. What they don't like is that the current burden of taxation has sent many American companies overseas. Bringing them back has nothing to do with automation and it's necessary to create jobs in the USA. Of course they want to treat women equally. I am one (although not a Trumper) I've had a brilliant career - no conservative has ever said they don't want women treated equally. And of course we don't want teens "to stay ignorant about their bodies and sex so don't want sex ed taught in schools". Where is that from? What we don't want is the federal government ordering public schools in the states as to what they should do. State and County public schools make those decisions in line with what the voters want. And besides, we all had sex ed in school even if we are "old" by DCUM standards and had it back in the 70s, so I don't know what you are talking about. It's unthinking statements like PP that just shows how wrong civics education has become in this country and how ignorant the left is about what conservatism is all about.

haha jokes on you....

Rs these days don't care about the budget. If they cared so much, they would not have cut the taxes of the rich as much as they did. Heck, even Reagan realized this when he ended up raising taxes, as did GHBush. I am old enough to remember these tax increases under their presidency. Corporate tax is one thing, but cutting the tax of the wealthiest 1% is another. There was no point in that other than to make the rich richer.

Where is that from "teens staying ignorant about their bodies" -- it's from the fact that so many deep red districts only want to teach abstinence only and not about how to protect themselves. They do want state control so that they can control their uneducated people. Keep them dumb and ignorant. That's the only way they seem to know how to hold on to power. Fear and ignorance.

Today's GOP is nothing like the R party of yester year. I used to be a R. Many high ranking Rs have stated the same thing -- this is no longer the R party as we used to know it. It's now the party of Trump - a cult.

I'm sorry you are blind to see what your party has become. Open your eyes. Trump is not even a real R.