youth soccer participation down 23.5% in key 6-12 year age group...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Rec level soccer has gotten a reputation as an "immigrant's" game. With how hostile our country is to brown people right now, no surprise people aren't flocking to soccer.

It's not just scheduling and travel. It's a perception of the sport and the kinds of people who play it, I'm sorry to say.

So what are you saying? You think this country just became hostile to brown people?

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Anonymous wrote:I’d like to give some props to PWC. Somehow PWSI and NVSC appear to do just fine with attracting minorities and playing at CCL and NPL levels of competition while keeping the price lower than other clubs.

Very true, their prices for the season, including tournaments, is under $2k. Quite a feat if you ask me. Also though, it is a rather expansive county not necessarily wealthy as well, even though there are pockets. Their teams always have a representative mix of races, both boys and girls. Frankly, that may have something to do with their competitiveness.

tbh, I think their competitiveness is middle of the road. not consistently high. And i’d really like to see how many kid, and their level of play, get supplemental training from HP Elite and surrounding that potentially obscures the true cost of their low cost approach.

Not with either of the two clubs but we spend around $2000/year at HP Elite. That covers a clinic most of the year and a couple camps. 1 on 1 private training could be another $500-1k on top of that depending on how often.

$2k year is ridiculously expensive

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’d like to give some props to PWC. Somehow PWSI and NVSC appear to do just fine with attracting minorities and playing at CCL and NPL levels of competition while keeping the price lower than other clubs.

Very true, their prices for the season, including tournaments, is under $2k. Quite a feat if you ask me. Also though, it is a rather expansive county not necessarily wealthy as well, even though there are pockets. Their teams always have a representative mix of races, both boys and girls. Frankly, that may have something to do with their competitiveness.

tbh, I think their competitiveness is middle of the road. not consistently high. And i’d really like to see how many kid, and their level of play, get supplemental training from HP Elite and surrounding that potentially obscures the true cost of their low cost approach.

Not with either of the two clubs but we spend around $2000/year at HP Elite. That covers a clinic most of the year and a couple camps. 1 on 1 private training could be another $500-1k on top of that depending on how often.

$2k year is ridiculously expensive

166 a month. Lots of people pay that much for a gym in the city.

[Anonymous]

Heading the ball
Rec soccer for fun should not have kids heading the ball, no drills, not required.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Heading the ball
Rec soccer for fun should not have kids heading the ball, no drills, not required.

they dont at rec u6-8, even travel doesnt have it until u12.

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Anonymous wrote:Heading the ball
Rec soccer for fun should not have kids heading the ball, no drills, not required.

they dont at rec u6-8, even travel doesnt have it until u12.

I prefer the games with little or no heading.

[Anonymous]

HP Elite is good solid training and worth the extra money if you want your kid to have very solid fundamentals and confidence on the ball.

[Anonymous]

Good to know this. Does HP Elite use small-sided games (including 1 v. 1) or is it all or mostly 1 v. 0 Coerver-style drilling? TIA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good to know this. Does HP Elite use small-sided games (including 1 v. 1) or is it all or mostly 1 v. 0 Coerver-style drilling? TIA

Not PP but they do lots of small-sided games including 1v1 as well as unopposed drilling. I would not say their unopposed drilling is Coerver-style.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good to know this. Does HP Elite use small-sided games (including 1 v. 1) or is it all or mostly 1 v. 0 Coerver-style drilling? TIA

Depends on the sessions. Obviously an individual training session is going to be 1 v 0. But their overall philosophy focuses on getting lots of touches on the ball whether 1 v 0 or 1 v 1 or 1 v 2.

I have been around soccer in the area for close to 15 years and can usually tell when I see one of their kids on the pitch. What I really like is that the skills and confidence and comfort on the ball that they teach lasts with the kids into adulthood, even when they take a year or two off. I just wish they were closer to the inner suburbs.

[Anonymous]

This gives a good run down of what their various clinics offer.


https://www.hpeliteandbeyond.com/winter-20172018-clinics/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The fun is gone too young. Too many parents ruining it for the kids and over-training them younger and younger. Clubs out to make $ and requiring too much structure and too much $$ at an age-inappropriate time.

The organized 90-minute travel practices 3+ times a week almost year round for SECOND graders is ridiculous...add in multiple tournaments each season and long drives and a culture that gives up on 90% of kids in an age group.

+1,000,000

[Anonymous]

Heading the ball
Rec soccer for fun should not have kids heading the ball, no drills, not required.

they dont at rec u6-8, even travel doesnt have it until u12

At 12 I'm not allowing it. Or as a teen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The fun is gone too young. Too many parents ruining it for the kids and over-training them younger and younger. Clubs out to make $ and requiring too much structure and too much $$ at an age-inappropriate time.

The organized 90-minute travel practices 3+ times a week almost year round for SECOND graders is ridiculous...add in multiple tournaments each season and long drives and a culture that gives up on 90% of kids in an age group.

+1,000,000

We are bailing this club nightmare. They ruin the sport by age 12 for many families. Great post.

[Anonymous]

Stop the lunacy, people.