Try doing some research on the IB diploma. |
This. They'll still be smarter in two languages, and their Chinese sounds so cute coming from blonde children with blue eyes. |
I was the one you're quoting and you're really weird PP. I just think it's bizarre when you have these pretty openly racist YY haters claiming that the Chinese they're learning at YY is garbage and can't compete with, you know, speaking Chinese at home and attending a heritage school on the weekends. That's nonsense. |
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I've been through this thread and nobody argued that the Mandarin taught at YY was GARBAGE. YY Chinese teachers were complimented! The point so-called "trashers" made was that language immersion can't be done to a high standard for speaking and listening without native speaking kids (or at least near native speaking kids) in a program. A poster was challenged for calling Chinese in public schools a fad. Another poster called a native speaker who talks to YY students he knows from his neighborhood a creep for noting his discovery that they can't speak or understand much Mandarin after years at the school. Posters either recognized that not having native speakers in the school is a problem, and blamed federal charter law for it, or they blamed the fact that Asian immigrants in the metropolitan area mostly use MoCo schools. A couple posters argued that YY doesn't need Chinese speakers in the school to help other kids learn Mandarin. Not sure what the take away is, other than that nothing will change...
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| Take away: Go away Heritage Dad. |
Unfortunately, he does seem to know what he's talking about, says this actual IBD graduate. Any "B Language" can be studied at the SL or HL, but only the HL for the fairly new Bilingual Diploma. The DCI program seems to be preparing Mandarin track students to take SL IB Chinese. Most parents will be thrilled with SL, but a few will wonder why HL wasn't in reach after the years of Mandarin immersion and partial immersion. Parents may want to raise the issue with admins once the DCI HS program is up and running at Walter Reed. DCI students w/out native speakers in the home are going to need weeks and weeks of full-on immersion experiences during summers to clear the HL speaking and listening bar. Maybe fundraising could be done eventually to support HL studies at DCI. |
No, not cute at all. It just comes across as cultural appropriation/theft. Yet ONE more thing covetous whites "must have now" from some "exotic ethnic" group. Btw, do you think Mandarin is less "cute" coming out if the mouths of "regular whites" with brown hair and eyes?
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If they can look like Selena Gomez, yes. And as long as you're not Anglo Saxon but you're still speaking English? Shut up about "cultural appropriation." You've appropriated the greatest culture ever.
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Can someone name a public school that IS successfully preparing large numbers of non-native speakers for the HL Chinese diploma? How is that program different? |
And what a coincidence it is to have both of you leaving giant gaps at the end of your posts. It is almost as if you're the same poster!!! I was raised in a bilingual household and spent years in my other country, but I would have preferred taking my language exam SL, which I did and got a 7. That's the best way to raise your overall IB score. Unless things have changed, HL language classes are focused on literature and are extremely difficult for non native speakers who aren't exposed to the language every day. In addition, it's not a good strategy in terms of college placement. Please go away Heritage dad and his sock puppets. |
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International Baccalaureate overhauled their language assessments in 2013. They did away with the First Language test category the PP above seems to be describing, adding a Language A Text and Performance category for native speakers who want to delve into the literature, drama and poetry of their mother tongue. IBD now offers several Language B assessments for language learners whose best language is English, the ab initio level, SL and HL IB changed the assessments partly to encourage students to prepare for HL language exams, rather than doing what PP describes, taking SL tests to score high, boosting one's points total. I've read that the change was made partly to make the IBD curriculum more competitive with AP at a time when the majority of AP language test takers are scoring 5s on the tests for harder languages. With so many AP language students scoring 5s--more than 80% who take Chinese--it's difficult for the most advanced students, particularly those who speak a language at home and/or began immersion studies young, to stand out. Language B HL exams helping colleges separate students who can really speak and understand languages after years of study from those who stumble along. In the last couple years, several MoCo high schools have begun offering classes to prepare IBD students for the HL Chinese exam. It would be good if DCI did the same eventually.
http://coursebulletin.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/CourseDetails/Index/1655 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IB_Group_1_subjects |
Interesting. I still think it's in your best interest to get a 7 on a subsidiary level exam than a 4 on a HL one. |
You seem really upset about this. I'm sorry for whatever experiences have lead to that. However, you may want to take a step back for just a sec and realize that there are a BILLION increasingly educated, upwardly mobile people for whom Mandarin is a common, official language. They power an economy that has experienced ridiculous growth, holds billions of dollars of US debt, manufactures everything the world uses and has been on a decades long buying spree of everything from cotton fields in Ethiopia to the site of a future canal in Nicaragua. If every person in the US devoted themselves full time to "culturally appropriating" from the Chinese, the Chinese would not be bothered a rat's @ss. They would be no more threatened by this than we are by Chinese t-shirts with meaningless English. Broad adoption of Chinese in the US will just make it easier for our kids to work for Chinese companies or in industries that serve Chinese clients in the future. The arrogant, old-fashioned, US-centric focus of some on this board as (evinced by comments about "we can just hire Chinese people" and "cultural appropriation") is kind of appalling. As Willie Brandt famously said "If I’m selling to you, I speak your language. If I’m buying, dann müssen Sie Deutsch sprechen." People in the US have been buying for a long time, but the credit card of US empire is maxed out. Our kids will experience a different reality. |
Try again racist troll. English is one of my heritage languages. I don't think that you can say the same. |
Lol. Are you for real? This has to be a parody. |