Compacted Math

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It may depend on the school but in ours they change classes for the math block and it's not just the compacted math kids. The kids in compacted math are in all the four classes and Mrs. X who is one of the teachers for 4th grade teaches compacted math. If you're in compacted math and in Mrs. X's class you stay with her. If you're not in her class you go to her class. If you're in Mrs. X's homeroom class you're assigned one of the other teachers for math and you get pulled out so to speak. Not sure how it works in other schools.

What if there aren't enough CM students to fill Mrs. X's class? Say, there are only a dozen CM kids in the DS. Will the class be filled with both CM and non-CM kids? If so, will each still get a one hour math block time, or will the one hour math block now be split (and probably not 50/50) between the two groups?

sorry, should read "ES".

I think they also may have expanded the criteria a bit this year, but would want to hear from one of the teachers on the thread to be sure. Either that, or my school's rising 4th graders are way stronger than previous cohorts, because there are many more kids slated for 4/5 than there have been in the past.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It may depend on the school but in ours they change classes for the math block and it's not just the compacted math kids. The kids in compacted math are in all the four classes and Mrs. X who is one of the teachers for 4th grade teaches compacted math. If you're in compacted math and in Mrs. X's class you stay with her. If you're not in her class you go to her class. If you're in Mrs. X's homeroom class you're assigned one of the other teachers for math and you get pulled out so to speak. Not sure how it works in other schools.

What if there aren't enough CM students to fill Mrs. X's class? Say, there are only a dozen CM kids in the DS. Will the class be filled with both CM and non-CM kids? If so, will each still get a one hour math block time, or will the one hour math block now be split (and probably not 50/50) between the two groups?

sorry, should read "ES".

I think they also may have expanded the criteria a bit this year, but would want to hear from one of the teachers on the thread to be sure. Either that, or my school's rising 4th graders are way stronger than previous cohorts, because there are many more kids slated for 4/5 than there have been in the past.

How do you know how many kids are in 4/5 math? My son came home with a sealed envelope. Didn't know what was in the envelope. I asked him if other kids talked about math placement and he said he hadn't heard anything.

[Anonymous]

So are they going to categorize into Math 4, Math 4/5 and Math 5/6 for 4th graders?

[Anonymous]

How many schools are offering math 5/6 for 4th
Grade?

[Anonymous]

Why do people keep mentioning Math 5/6 for 4th grade students? This does not exist...the compacted math path is Math 4/5 in 4th Grade and Math 5/6 in 5th grade otherwise you are on grade level math.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It may depend on the school but in ours they change classes for the math block and it's not just the compacted math kids. The kids in compacted math are in all the four classes and Mrs. X who is one of the teachers for 4th grade teaches compacted math. If you're in compacted math and in Mrs. X's class you stay with her. If you're not in her class you go to her class. If you're in Mrs. X's homeroom class you're assigned one of the other teachers for math and you get pulled out so to speak. Not sure how it works in other schools.

What if there aren't enough CM students to fill Mrs. X's class? Say, there are only a dozen CM kids in the DS. Will the class be filled with both CM and non-CM kids? If so, will each still get a one hour math block time, or will the one hour math block now be split (and probably not 50/50) between the two groups?

sorry, should read "ES".

I think they also may have expanded the criteria a bit this year, but would want to hear from one of the teachers on the thread to be sure. Either that, or my school's rising 4th graders are way stronger than previous cohorts, because there are many more kids slated for 4/5 than there have been in the past.

How do you know how many kids are in 4/5 math? My son came home with a sealed envelope. Didn't know what was in the envelope. I asked him if other kids talked about math placement and he said he hadn't heard anything.

PTA meetings were last night and our principal answered a direct question about how many 4th graders were in compacted math. I didn't know the dad who asked, so don't know if he has a rising 4th grader.

[Anonymous]

Teacher mentioned to us that criteria changed from "who needs accelerated instruction" to "who do you think will succeed with accelerated instruction." Sounds like purposeful broadening of the pool.

[Anonymous]

Awesome. Now we will be back where we started w too many kids accelerated

[Anonymous]

IMO, selecting kids who are likely to succeed is right, but there need to be more reasonable off ramps along the way, as well as on ramps for late-blooming kids. How you perform in 3rd grade shouldn't lock you in/out for 9 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It may depend on the school but in ours they change classes for the math block and it's not just the compacted math kids. The kids in compacted math are in all the four classes and Mrs. X who is one of the teachers for 4th grade teaches compacted math. If you're in compacted math and in Mrs. X's class you stay with her. If you're not in her class you go to her class. If you're in Mrs. X's homeroom class you're assigned one of the other teachers for math and you get pulled out so to speak. Not sure how it works in other schools.

What if there aren't enough CM students to fill Mrs. X's class? Say, there are only a dozen CM kids in the DS. Will the class be filled with both CM and non-CM kids? If so, will each still get a one hour math block time, or will the one hour math block now be split (and probably not 50/50) between the two groups?

It's a good question. I think the number of students in each of those classes was not at capacity at our school so there was some wiggle room in class size during the math block. As an example if all four classes had 25 students… Mrs. X's class could have up to 30 kids for CM and the other three might have 23,23,24 for regular math during that time or Mrs. X's class might have 12 for CM and the others 29, 29 and 30.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Teacher mentioned to us that criteria changed from "who needs accelerated instruction" to "who do you think will succeed with accelerated instruction." Sounds like purposeful broadening of the pool.

That is essentially what our Principal said at the PTA meeting this week. The size of the compacted group will double starting next year. Instead of using just test results, they are using in class performance and teacher recommendations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It may depend on the school but in ours they change classes for the math block and it's not just the compacted math kids. The kids in compacted math are in all the four classes and Mrs. X who is one of the teachers for 4th grade teaches compacted math. If you're in compacted math and in Mrs. X's class you stay with her. If you're not in her class you go to her class. If you're in Mrs. X's homeroom class you're assigned one of the other teachers for math and you get pulled out so to speak. Not sure how it works in other schools.

What if there aren't enough CM students to fill Mrs. X's class? Say, there are only a dozen CM kids in the DS. Will the class be filled with both CM and non-CM kids? If so, will each still get a one hour math block time, or will the one hour math block now be split (and probably not 50/50) between the two groups?

It's a good question. I think the number of students in each of those classes was not at capacity at our school so there was some wiggle room in class size during the math block. As an example if all four classes had 25 students… Mrs. X's class could have up to 30 kids for CM and the other three might have 23,23,24 for regular math during that time or Mrs. X's class might have 12 for CM and the others 29, 29 and 30.

They will generally fill the classes so they are all somewhat even (regardless of where the kids belong)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teacher mentioned to us that criteria changed from "who needs accelerated instruction" to "who do you think will succeed with accelerated instruction." Sounds like purposeful broadening of the pool.

That is essentially what our Principal said at the PTA meeting this week. The size of the compacted group will double starting next year. Instead of using just test results, they are using in class performance and teacher recommendations.

What school has such a forthcoming principal? Love it!

[Anonymous]

If you are going to Frost, compacted math will
Not be your biggest problem.