Newsweek high school rankings

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Anonymous wrote:The list was interesting. I went through all 500. Maybe I need a hobby.

It's annoying that Fairfax county has the #1 school, but none of the other high schools in the county ranked. There's something very wrong with this. New Jersey makes us look like bumpkins.

Check this thread, this will clarify why not many FCPS schools in the list.

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/494150.page

The above thread doesn't clarify why FCPS schools are not ranked in top 500.

Read the thread properly ...

Not All FCPS schools participated in the survey. To come up with the rankings, schools were asked to provide data through questionnaire for the rankings. Newsweek did not do the analysis themselves.

That is the conclusion..

Now why all FCPS schools did not provide the data ? I don't know.

You know for a fact that only TJ participated and none of the other FCPS high schools participated?

You keep asking me dumb questions..

Do you know for the fact all the schools in FCPS submitted their data ?

Yes, I know for a fact that only TJ participated and may be couple more FCPS high schools may have participated participated..

The below is 2013 year's data.. And it has 2000 high school in the country.. except 2-3 FCPS schools others are not even in the list..

Select Virginia and tell me how many "FCPS" schools are in the list ..
http://www.newsweek.com/2013/05/06/america-s-best-high-schools.html

So, what this survey means is out of 2000 schools in the country only 3 FCPS schools are ranked in top 2000 ???


For 2015, 6 of the top 10 are from New Jersey.. I mean common !!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The list was interesting. I went through all 500. Maybe I need a hobby.

It's annoying that Fairfax county has the #1 school, but none of the other high schools in the county ranked. There's something very wrong with this. New Jersey makes us look like bumpkins.

Check this thread, this will clarify why not many FCPS schools in the list.

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/494150.page

The above thread doesn't clarify why FCPS schools are not ranked in top 500.

Read the thread properly ...

Not All FCPS schools participated in the survey. To come up with the rankings, schools were asked to provide data through questionnaire for the rankings. Newsweek did not do the analysis themselves.

That is the conclusion..

Now why all FCPS schools did not provide the data ? I don't know.

You know for a fact that only TJ participated and none of the other FCPS high schools participated?

You keep asking me dumb questions..

Do you know for the fact all the schools in FCPS submitted their data ?

Yes, I know for a fact that only TJ participated and may be couple more FCPS high schools may have participated participated..

The below is 2013 year's data.. And it has 2000 high school in the country.. except 2-3 FCPS schools others are not even in the list..

Select Virginia and tell me how many "FCPS" schools are in the list ..
http://www.newsweek.com/2013/05/06/america-s-best-high-schools.html

So, what this survey means is out of 2000 schools in the country only 3 FCPS schools are ranked in top 2000 ???


For 2015, 6 of the top 10 are from New Jersey.. I mean common !!!

Learn how to write coherently and to spell correctly (and I do not mean ones caused by "auto-correct") before calling someone "dumb". It wouldn't hurt to actually review the methodology (or at least the summary) before making incorrect assumptions about the said methodology.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The list was interesting. I went through all 500. Maybe I need a hobby.

It's annoying that Fairfax county has the #1 school, but none of the other high schools in the county ranked. There's something very wrong with this. New Jersey makes us look like bumpkins.

Check this thread, this will clarify why not many FCPS schools in the list.

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/494150.page

The above thread doesn't clarify why FCPS schools are not ranked in top 500.

Read the thread properly ...

Not All FCPS schools participated in the survey. To come up with the rankings, schools were asked to provide data through questionnaire for the rankings. Newsweek did not do the analysis themselves.

That is the conclusion..

Now why all FCPS schools did not provide the data ? I don't know.

You know for a fact that only TJ participated and none of the other FCPS high schools participated?

You keep asking me dumb questions..

Do you know for the fact all the schools in FCPS submitted their data ?

Yes, I know for a fact that only TJ participated and may be couple more FCPS high schools may have participated participated..

The below is 2013 year's data.. And it has 2000 high school in the country.. except 2-3 FCPS schools others are not even in the list..

Select Virginia and tell me how many "FCPS" schools are in the list ..
http://www.newsweek.com/2013/05/06/america-s-best-high-schools.html

So, what this survey means is out of 2000 schools in the country only 3 FCPS schools are ranked in top 2000 ???


For 2015, 6 of the top 10 are from New Jersey.. I mean common !!!

Learn how to write coherently and to spell correctly (and I do not mean ones caused by "auto-correct") before calling someone "dumb". It wouldn't hurt to actually review the methodology (or at least the summary) before making incorrect assumptions about the said methodology.

looks like you want to divert the conversation by making useless comments about spelling and grammar..

Looks like he pointed out what was obvious about the rankings.. He agrees with whatever methodology newsweek used and it is flawed.

Guess you need some critical thinking skills, although your english is coherent and grammar is flawless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The list was interesting. I went through all 500. Maybe I need a hobby.

It's annoying that Fairfax county has the #1 school, but none of the other high schools in the county ranked. There's something very wrong with this. New Jersey makes us look like bumpkins.

Check this thread, this will clarify why not many FCPS schools in the list.

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/494150.page

The above thread doesn't clarify why FCPS schools are not ranked in top 500.

Read the thread properly ...

Not All FCPS schools participated in the survey. To come up with the rankings, schools were asked to provide data through questionnaire for the rankings. Newsweek did not do the analysis themselves.

That is the conclusion..

Now why all FCPS schools did not provide the data ? I don't know.

You know for a fact that only TJ participated and none of the other FCPS high schools participated?

The Newsweek rankings are worthless if they depend on data submitted by individual schools or school districts. US News rankings are based on information that the schools have to submit to the states.

"Executive Summary

This report describes the 2015 methodology and analysis for Newsweek ’s “Top Public High School” rankings. The 2015 methodology is similar to Newsweek’s 2014 rankings in that it produced two sets of rankings: an absolute list and a relative list.

For 2015, we again created two lists to demonstrate the consequence of accounting for non-school factors on school rankings. The absolute list ranks schools solely on the achievement and college readiness indicators. The relative list ranks the highest performing schools after accounting for student poverty levels. These two lists reveal how the rankings vary when non-school factors are considered.

For both the absolute and relative rankings, we conducted multiple analyses to identify the “top” schools.
Using data from National Center for Education Statistics (NCES), specifically the ED Facts and Common Core of Data (CCD), we conducted a threshold analysis to identify schools with the highest levels of academic achievement based on average student proficiency as measured by scores on state standardized assessments. The absolute list identified the top 30 percent of schools in each state, that is, schools with performance above the 70th percentile.

The relative list identified schools that were .5 standard deviation (SD) or higher than the line of best fit after controlling for the percentage of students eligible for free or reduced-price lunch. We surveyed schools identified in the threshold analysis to collect college readiness data. The web-based survey asked for basic demographic information, graduation rates, college enrollment rates, number of full-time equivalent (FTE) counselors, number of students who take the SAT and ACT, average SAT and ACT scores, percentage of students taking at least one advanced placement (AP) course, percentage of students taking one international baccalaureate (IB), percentage of students taking one advanced international certificate of education (AICE) course,
the school’s students’ average AP/IB/AICE scores, number of student participating in dual enrollment courses, and number of dual enrollment credits earned.

Using these data, we developed a college readiness index score based on six variables: counselor FTE (weighted at 10 percent), changes in 9th-grade to 12th-grade enrollment rates (10 percent), a composite SAT/ACT score (17.5 percent), a composite AP/IB/dual enrollment score (17.5 percent), high school graduation rates (20 percent), and college enrollment rates (25 percent).

The rankings are based on schools’ college readiness index scores. For the absolute list, schools are ranked according to their college readiness index score. For the relative list, schools are ranked based on their distance from the line of best fit when controlling for student poverty. To denote schools with similar achievement levels for all students, we also noted schools on both lists in which economically disadvantaged students scored at or above the state average in reading and mathematics. This analysis used NCES data obtained from ED Facts and the CCD."

http://www.newsweek.com/methodology-newsweeks-top-high-school-rankings-2015-363698

The methodology appears reasonable.

Thanks for the cut and paste, but the methodology is still flawed if it depends on individual schools or school districts completing survey data. The effectiveness of a method depends not only upon the weighting of different criteria, but also upon whether the relevant data will actually be collected.

Why do you say the schools provided the data?

[Anonymous]

"Five Montgomery County High Schools Make Newsweek’s List of Best in the Nation"

http://www.bethesdamagazine.com/Bethesda-Beat/2015/Five-Montgomery-County-High-Schools-Make-Newsweeks-List-of-Best-in-the-Nation/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The list was interesting. I went through all 500. Maybe I need a hobby.

It's annoying that Fairfax county has the #1 school, but none of the other high schools in the county ranked. There's something very wrong with this. New Jersey makes us look like bumpkins.

Check this thread, this will clarify why not many FCPS schools in the list.

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/494150.page

The above thread doesn't clarify why FCPS schools are not ranked in top 500.

Read the thread properly ...

Not All FCPS schools participated in the survey. To come up with the rankings, schools were asked to provide data through questionnaire for the rankings. Newsweek did not do the analysis themselves.

That is the conclusion..

Now why all FCPS schools did not provide the data ? I don't know.

You know for a fact that only TJ participated and none of the other FCPS high schools participated?

The Newsweek rankings are worthless if they depend on data submitted by individual schools or school districts. US News rankings are based on information that the schools have to submit to the states.

"Executive Summary

This report describes the 2015 methodology and analysis for Newsweek ’s “Top Public High School” rankings. The 2015 methodology is similar to Newsweek’s 2014 rankings in that it produced two sets of rankings: an absolute list and a relative list.

For 2015, we again created two lists to demonstrate the consequence of accounting for non-school factors on school rankings. The absolute list ranks schools solely on the achievement and college readiness indicators. The relative list ranks the highest performing schools after accounting for student poverty levels. These two lists reveal how the rankings vary when non-school factors are considered.

For both the absolute and relative rankings, we conducted multiple analyses to identify the “top” schools.
Using data from National Center for Education Statistics (NCES), specifically the ED Facts and Common Core of Data (CCD), we conducted a threshold analysis to identify schools with the highest levels of academic achievement based on average student proficiency as measured by scores on state standardized assessments. The absolute list identified the top 30 percent of schools in each state, that is, schools with performance above the 70th percentile.

The relative list identified schools that were .5 standard deviation (SD) or higher than the line of best fit after controlling for the percentage of students eligible for free or reduced-price lunch. We surveyed schools identified in the threshold analysis to collect college readiness data. The web-based survey asked for basic demographic information, graduation rates, college enrollment rates, number of full-time equivalent (FTE) counselors, number of students who take the SAT and ACT, average SAT and ACT scores, percentage of students taking at least one advanced placement (AP) course, percentage of students taking one international baccalaureate (IB), percentage of students taking one advanced international certificate of education (AICE) course,
the school’s students’ average AP/IB/AICE scores, number of student participating in dual enrollment courses, and number of dual enrollment credits earned.

Using these data, we developed a college readiness index score based on six variables: counselor FTE (weighted at 10 percent), changes in 9th-grade to 12th-grade enrollment rates (10 percent), a composite SAT/ACT score (17.5 percent), a composite AP/IB/dual enrollment score (17.5 percent), high school graduation rates (20 percent), and college enrollment rates (25 percent).

The rankings are based on schools’ college readiness index scores. For the absolute list, schools are ranked according to their college readiness index score. For the relative list, schools are ranked based on their distance from the line of best fit when controlling for student poverty. To denote schools with similar achievement levels for all students, we also noted schools on both lists in which economically disadvantaged students scored at or above the state average in reading and mathematics. This analysis used NCES data obtained from ED Facts and the CCD."

http://www.newsweek.com/methodology-newsweeks-top-high-school-rankings-2015-363698

The methodology appears reasonable.

Thanks for the cut and paste, but the methodology is still flawed if it depends on individual schools or school districts completing survey data. The effectiveness of a method depends not only upon the weighting of different criteria, but also upon whether the relevant data will actually be collected.

Why do you say the schools provided the data?

I am not sure but, looks like they had to fill this questionaire

http://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.newsweek.com/files/2015_newsweek_high_school_ranking_survey.pdf

[Anonymous]

FCPS high schools did not provide data?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FCPS high schools did not provide data?

OK, it's me the country bumpkin poster back. I have to agree with this statement, it's hard to believe that only TJ completed the survey.

No matter what, even if this is the case, the county should be embarrassed and should explain why they did not participate. It's crazy TJ is first, but there are no other high schools in the county on the list.

[Anonymous]

How do we know fcps schools did not complete the survey?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCPS high schools did not provide data?

OK, it's me the country bumpkin poster back. I have to agree with this statement, it's hard to believe that only TJ completed the survey.

No matter what, even if this is the case, the county should be embarrassed and should explain why they did not participate. It's crazy TJ is first, but there are no other high schools in the county on the list.

Different poster here, but I'm personally glad that most schools in the county didn't waste time completing a questionnaire from an irrelevant media organization for purposes of a silly survey that will soon be forgotten. And TJ really doesn't need another group to rank it highly at this point. It should spend more time figuring out why it now has stressed-out students who attract national attention by lying about their college acceptances.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCPS high schools did not provide data?

OK, it's me the country bumpkin poster back. I have to agree with this statement, it's hard to believe that only TJ completed the survey.

No matter what, even if this is the case, the county should be embarrassed and should explain why they did not participate. It's crazy TJ is first, but there are no other high schools in the county on the list.

Different poster here, but I'm personally glad that most schools in the county didn't waste time completing a questionnaire from an irrelevant media organization for purposes of a silly survey that will soon be forgotten. And TJ really doesn't need another group to rank it highly at this point. It should spend more time figuring out why it now has stressed-out students who attract national attention by lying about their college acceptances.

Which fairfax HS participated?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCPS high schools did not provide data?

OK, it's me the country bumpkin poster back. I have to agree with this statement, it's hard to believe that only TJ completed the survey.

No matter what, even if this is the case, the county should be embarrassed and should explain why they did not participate. It's crazy TJ is first, but there are no other high schools in the county on the list.

Different poster here, but I'm personally glad that most schools in the county didn't waste time completing a questionnaire from an irrelevant media organization for purposes of a silly survey that will soon be forgotten. And TJ really doesn't need another group to rank it highly at this point. It should spend more time figuring out why it now has stressed-out students who attract national attention by lying about their college acceptances.

Which fairfax HS participated?

All fcps HS participated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCPS high schools did not provide data?

OK, it's me the country bumpkin poster back. I have to agree with this statement, it's hard to believe that only TJ completed the survey.

No matter what, even if this is the case, the county should be embarrassed and should explain why they did not participate. It's crazy TJ is first, but there are no other high schools in the county on the list.

Different poster here, but I'm personally glad that most schools in the county didn't waste time completing a questionnaire from an irrelevant media organization for purposes of a silly survey that will soon be forgotten. And TJ really doesn't need another group to rank it highly at this point. It should spend more time figuring out why it now has stressed-out students who attract national attention by lying about their college acceptances.

Which fairfax HS participated?

All fcps HS participated.

They just didn't make the cut.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCPS high schools did not provide data?

OK, it's me the country bumpkin poster back. I have to agree with this statement, it's hard to believe that only TJ completed the survey.

No matter what, even if this is the case, the county should be embarrassed and should explain why they did not participate. It's crazy TJ is first, but there are no other high schools in the county on the list.

Different poster here, but I'm personally glad that most schools in the county didn't waste time completing a questionnaire from an irrelevant media organization for purposes of a silly survey that will soon be forgotten. And TJ really doesn't need another group to rank it highly at this point. It should spend more time figuring out why it now has stressed-out students who attract national attention by lying about their college acceptances.

+1000

Enough with the meaningless rankings already.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCPS high schools did not provide data?

OK, it's me the country bumpkin poster back. I have to agree with this statement, it's hard to believe that only TJ completed the survey.

No matter what, even if this is the case, the county should be embarrassed and should explain why they did not participate. It's crazy TJ is first, but there are no other high schools in the county on the list.

Different poster here, but I'm personally glad that most schools in the county didn't waste time completing a questionnaire from an irrelevant media organization for purposes of a silly survey that will soon be forgotten. And TJ really doesn't need another group to rank it highly at this point. It should spend more time figuring out why it now has stressed-out students who attract national attention by lying about their college acceptances.

Which fairfax HS participated?

All fcps HS participated.

They just didn't make the cut.

I call BS. Anyone foolish enough to believe that FCPS high schools would simply be shut out of a ranking because they're not good enough, simply isn't that bright.