Why isn't MCPS redistricting Rachel Carlson

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And if you all think 26Mil is too much for the Crown Developer, you are insane. That is chump change. Honestly. And it wouldn't cost 26M to them. They would do it at cost which would be 10Mil.

Are you a developer? If so, please explain how you came up with those numbers. Also please explain what prices you will increase, and by how much, to offset the cost of the school.

If you're not a developer...

NP. My husband works in the business. It is big money and pennies in their pockets. They are greedy as heck though so you have to pin them against the wall BEFORE contracts to even consider getting anything extra out of them. MCPS likes developers so much (more upfront taxes) that they bow to the likes of developers and let them make millions, even billions in revenue. It is such a game.

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Anonymous wrote:And sorry but yes, they should be building a school NOW for the Crown development. There are homes that are moved in, sold and for sale, more being built and it isn't like single couples deciding to have kids in 5yrs are the only ones moving in. Kids are already living there. By next year school year, 70% of the homes projected to be built will be lived in or sold. It takes 5yrs minimum to plan and build a school. They haven't even started planning. So what is going to happen to those surrounding schools? Over capacity, portables, awful lunch times, no room for recess. Then another round of studying for redistricting etc... It is never ending and never done right.

Very few purchasers at Crown plan to send their kids to MCPS. It's a very expensive development zoned for GBurg. One of the builders (I won't name them) came out and told me about how I can send my kid to private from there - they aren't stupid. People buying homes in the 800k to 1.2M price range aren't sending them to the GBurg cluster.

I talked recently to a mom who lives in Crown, and I got the sense that there was some kind of bait and switch that happened at some point - either new schools were supposed to be built, or the zoning was originally to somewhere else. Needless to say, she was very displeased to end up zoned for Gaithersburg High.

Not bait and switch; misleading advertisement. The developer is doing that at Cabin Branch in Clarksburg, too -- advertising that there will be an elementary school, right there in the neighborhood!!!!!! Which there will be, in 10-15 years, maybe.

That's awful.

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They did it at King Farm too. When all these new developments are built, the developers set aside the land for an elementary school like they are supposed to and advertise to potential buyers about the new school planned to be built but then it never happens.

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Anonymous wrote:They did it at King Farm too. When all these new developments are built, the developers set aside the land for an elementary school like they are supposed to and advertise to potential buyers about the new school planned to be built but then it never happens.

Same thing with Fallsgrove too. And we are stuck driving past 3 closer elementary schools to an ES in the RM district. Needless to say many people end up at private.

There is no way Crown families are going to send their kids to Gaithersburg High district.

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Anonymous wrote:And sorry but yes, they should be building a school NOW for the Crown development. There are homes that are moved in, sold and for sale, more being built and it isn't like single couples deciding to have kids in 5yrs are the only ones moving in. Kids are already living there. By next year school year, 70% of the homes projected to be built will be lived in or sold. It takes 5yrs minimum to plan and build a school. They haven't even started planning. So what is going to happen to those surrounding schools? Over capacity, portables, awful lunch times, no room for recess. Then another round of studying for redistricting etc... It is never ending and never done right.

Very few purchasers at Crown plan to send their kids to MCPS. It's a very expensive development zoned for GBurg. One of the builders (I won't name them) came out and told me about how I can send my kid to private from there - they aren't stupid. People buying homes in the 800k to 1.2M price range aren't sending them to the GBurg cluster.

If homes zoned for Gathersburg cost that much, threes they are overpriced. Why payt that much AND pay for private school?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And sorry but yes, they should be building a school NOW for the Crown development. There are homes that are moved in, sold and for sale, more being built and it isn't like single couples deciding to have kids in 5yrs are the only ones moving in. Kids are already living there. By next year school year, 70% of the homes projected to be built will be lived in or sold. It takes 5yrs minimum to plan and build a school. They haven't even started planning. So what is going to happen to those surrounding schools? Over capacity, portables, awful lunch times, no room for recess. Then another round of studying for redistricting etc... It is never ending and never done right.

Very few purchasers at Crown plan to send their kids to MCPS. It's a very expensive development zoned for GBurg. One of the builders (I won't name them) came out and told me about how I can send my kid to private from there - they aren't stupid. People buying homes in the 800k to 1.2M price range aren't sending them to the GBurg cluster.

If homes zoned for Gathersburg cost that much, threes they are overpriced. Why payt that much AND pay for private school?

No, if homes zoned for Gaithersburg cost that much, then people are willing to pay that much.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They did it at King Farm too. When all these new developments are built, the developers set aside the land for an elementary school like they are supposed to and advertise to potential buyers about the new school planned to be built but then it never happens.

Same thing with Fallsgrove too. And we are stuck driving past 3 closer elementary schools to an ES in the RM district. Needless to say many people end up at private.

There is no way Crown families are going to send their kids to Gaithersburg High district.

I'm curious.. if you live in Fallsgrove and send your kid to private, when you bought the house in Fallsgrove, did you think you would be zoned for Wootton or have a brand new HS? I'm thinking people are sending their kids to privates not because the ESs for this cluster are over crowded but because they don't like RM as a HS, too many undesirables perhaps?

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Anonymous wrote:They did it at King Farm too. When all these new developments are built, the developers set aside the land for an elementary school like they are supposed to and advertise to potential buyers about the new school planned to be built but then it never happens.

It's not all the developers' fault. The county planning commission and developers can set aside land for new school construction, but if MCPS doesn't choose to build anything, or the county doesn't approve construction, it won't get built. The whole process to approve and build a new school is sooooooo long that kids graduate from school and the parents give up. It's almost by design...

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Anonymous wrote:And sorry but yes, they should be building a school NOW for the Crown development. There are homes that are moved in, sold and for sale, more being built and it isn't like single couples deciding to have kids in 5yrs are the only ones moving in. Kids are already living there. By next year school year, 70% of the homes projected to be built will be lived in or sold. It takes 5yrs minimum to plan and build a school. They haven't even started planning. So what is going to happen to those surrounding schools? Over capacity, portables, awful lunch times, no room for recess. Then another round of studying for redistricting etc... It is never ending and never done right.

Very few purchasers at Crown plan to send their kids to MCPS. It's a very expensive development zoned for GBurg. One of the builders (I won't name them) came out and told me about how I can send my kid to private from there - they aren't stupid. People buying homes in the 800k to 1.2M price range aren't sending them to the GBurg cluster.

If homes zoned for Gathersburg cost that much, threes they are overpriced. Why payt that much AND pay for private school?

No, if homes zoned for Gaithersburg cost that much, then people are willing to pay that much.

People pay that much because it is easy access to everything, and a good commute. Maybe if they did not run from the Gaithersburg cluster, the school would improve greatly-look at Blair or RM for that matter!

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Anonymous wrote:And sorry but yes, they should be building a school NOW for the Crown development. There are homes that are moved in, sold and for sale, more being built and it isn't like single couples deciding to have kids in 5yrs are the only ones moving in. Kids are already living there. By next year school year, 70% of the homes projected to be built will be lived in or sold. It takes 5yrs minimum to plan and build a school. They haven't even started planning. So what is going to happen to those surrounding schools? Over capacity, portables, awful lunch times, no room for recess. Then another round of studying for redistricting etc... It is never ending and never done right.

Very few purchasers at Crown plan to send their kids to MCPS. It's a very expensive development zoned for GBurg. One of the builders (I won't name them) came out and told me about how I can send my kid to private from there - they aren't stupid. People buying homes in the 800k to 1.2M price range aren't sending them to the GBurg cluster.[/quote]

If homes zoned for Gathersburg cost that much, threes they are overpriced. Why payt that much AND pay for private school?

No, if homes zoned for Gaithersburg cost that much, then people are willing to pay that much.

What about the tons of million plus homes in Laytonnsville and Goshen? I am sure some of those "rich" folks send their kids to Gaithersburg. It can't be that bad of a school (even with the high hispanic and FARMS rates).

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Anonymous wrote:And sorry but yes, they should be building a school NOW for the Crown development. There are homes that are moved in, sold and for sale, more being built and it isn't like single couples deciding to have kids in 5yrs are the only ones moving in. Kids are already living there. By next year school year, 70% of the homes projected to be built will be lived in or sold. It takes 5yrs minimum to plan and build a school. They haven't even started planning. So what is going to happen to those surrounding schools? Over capacity, portables, awful lunch times, no room for recess. Then another round of studying for redistricting etc... It is never ending and never done right.

Very few purchasers at Crown plan to send their kids to MCPS. It's a very expensive development zoned for GBurg. One of the builders (I won't name them) came out and told me about how I can send my kid to private from there - they aren't stupid. People buying homes in the 800k to 1.2M price range aren't sending them to the GBurg cluster.

If homes zoned for Gathersburg cost that much, threes they are overpriced. Why payt that much AND pay for private school?

No, if homes zoned for Gaithersburg cost that much, then people are willing to pay that much.

People pay that much because it is easy access to everything, and a good commute. Maybe if they did not run from the Gaithersburg cluster, the school would improve greatly-look at Blair or RM for that matter!

Blair and RM test scores improved because of IB/Magnet. Don't let that fool you. Most of the wealthier families still go to private. Catholic and College-Prep.

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What about the tons of million plus homes in Laytonnsville and Goshen? I am sure some of those "rich" folks send their kids to Gaithersburg. It can't be that bad of a school (even with the high hispanic and FARMS rates).

I know people with children at Gaithersburg MS. They don't live in million-plus houses, but they're definitely in the DCUM demographic groups.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They did it at King Farm too. When all these new developments are built, the developers set aside the land for an elementary school like they are supposed to and advertise to potential buyers about the new school planned to be built but then it never happens.

It's not all the developers' fault. The county planning commission and developers can set aside land for new school construction, but if MCPS doesn't choose to build anything, or the county doesn't approve construction, it won't get built. The whole process to approve and build a new school is sooooooo long that kids graduate from school and the parents give up. It's almost by design...

What exactly would the design be? That if they wait long enough, all of the kids go away, and the school is no longer necessary? That's obviously not the reality.

MCPS does not have enough money for school construction and modernization. That's the reality.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They did it at King Farm too. When all these new developments are built, the developers set aside the land for an elementary school like they are supposed to and advertise to potential buyers about the new school planned to be built but then it never happens.

It's not all the developers' fault. The county planning commission and developers can set aside land for new school construction, but if MCPS doesn't choose to build anything, or the county doesn't approve construction, it won't get built. The whole process to approve and build a new school is sooooooo long that kids graduate from school and the parents give up. It's almost by design...

What exactly would the design be? That if they wait long enough, all of the kids go away, and the school is no longer necessary? That's obviously not the reality.

MCPS does not have enough money for school construction and modernization. That's the reality.

But the county still allows developers to build to increase numbers? Why is that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:They did it at King Farm too. When all these new developments are built, the developers set aside the land for an elementary school like they are supposed to and advertise to potential buyers about the new school planned to be built but then it never happens.

It's not all the developers' fault. The county planning commission and developers can set aside land for new school construction, but if MCPS doesn't choose to build anything, or the county doesn't approve construction, it won't get built. The whole process to approve and build a new school is sooooooo long that kids graduate from school and the parents give up. It's almost by design...

What exactly would the design be? That if they wait long enough, all of the kids go away, and the school is no longer necessary? That's obviously not the reality.

MCPS does not have enough money for school construction and modernization. That's the reality.

But the county still allows developers to build to increase numbers? Why is that?

The Planning Board and the County Council allow developers to build. It's not a MCPS decision.

Also, there is a development moratorium when enrollment is projected to exceed 120% of school capacity in the next 5 years. MCPS says that the Northwood, Gaithersburg, Einstein, and Wheaton clusters are projected to go over.

http://www.gazette.net/article/20141031/NEWS/141039752/-1/montgomery-school-officials-say-development&template=gazette