Palisades: Safeway is closing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Giant is a dump. I love the one in downtown silver spring where the restrooms are in the back next to all the meat and chicken and smells like SHIT constantly. The entire back of the store smells like someone took a big SHIT on the floor and left it there. Don't even get me started on the 4 corners Safeway. These places could close for good and they would be doing us all a favor.

They should razed to the ground and then the CEO should be burned in effigy. Or something.

[Anonymous]

You know would be great, a WF with an on site dairy and slaughter house at the Tenley location. We could run pedi taxis between there and The Palisades.

[Anonymous]

Ooh poor babies will be forced to scrabble for rations at Black Salt and the like. That's what you get for buying an overpriced home in a bad school district in the middle of a flood plain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope they never close the Chevy Chase safeway. It may not be hip, but it's the right size. I can find what I need there and the parking is adequate.

What CC Safeway? You mean Bethesda on Arlington Road?

The one near the CC rec center on Conn across from the CVS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ooh poor babies will be forced to scrabble for rations at Black Salt and the like. That's what you get for buying an overpriced home in a bad school district in the middle of a flood plain.

1. Key Elementary is one of the best primary schools in the city. Hardy, well, not so much....
2. Most of the Palisades is pretty high off the river and flood plain. Hence the name.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope they never close the Chevy Chase safeway. It may not be hip, but it's the right size. I can find what I need there and the parking is adequate.

What CC Safeway? You mean Bethesda on Arlington Road?

The one near the CC rec center on Conn across from the CVS.

That the Chevy Chase DC strip seems to have found the magic formula for a local retail district. It's a good mixture of neighborhood serving businesses (from Starbucks to Safeway to shoe repair), with decent restaurants (including ones that are family-friendly) and enough other places (Avalon theater, Chevy Chase arcade) to make it interesting. It's all very walkable, and doesn't overwhelm the nearby residential areas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At Tenleytown, Safeway had a very modest plan, height requests consistent with other developments in the neighborhood and very restrictive traffic and parking commitments.

In return the community was going to get a brand new store similar to other new stores in the area.

It was a win-win and the community said no, simply because they consider themselves developers and didn't want to make any concessions. They wanted Safeway to give them a new store, without the apartments on top (which were paying for the store improvements and parking). It was an obnoxious position on the neighborhood's part and they got what they deserved - nothing.

Contrast that with Cathedral Commons where the developer got everything it wanted at the Zoning Commission, had no traffic plan and offered no community amenities as are standard in a large Planned Unit Development. They evicted all the much-patronized businesses like Sullivan's Toys and Shemalis. And the neighborhood is getting destination generic schlock in return.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I take umbrage at the Chipotle jabs. I like me some Chipotle. Every neighborhood should have one. Now Panera -- that signals urban decay to me. That and a Payless shoe store next to a check cashing joint.

Chipotle should have a co-location joint venture with CVS, as they both have a blanked-the-area real estate strategy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's too hard to pedal my fixie up that hill in Tenely to get to WF. And I'm in AU Park. We're losing our Safeway to a bunch of Cadillac Liberals to make a lunchroom for their sprogs. It's an abomination.

Safeway already is the GDS lunchroom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Same place. Only one Safeway (on Wisconsin in Burleith) within two miles. The WF at Tenleytown (2.9 miles), WF in Glover Park (2.2) and the WF at Friendship (4.2) are further.

Whole Foods 2323 Wisconsin Ave 1.4 miles
Safeway 1855 Wisconsin Ave NW 1.5 miles
Giant 3115 Lee Hwy in Arlington 1.5 miles
Safeway 3713 Lee highway1.5 Miles
Safeway 1525 Wilson Blvd 1.9 Miles

If you need really Upscale the Dean and Deluca is 2.0 miles away.

I realize some of these involve crossing the river, but the point is almost everyone in that neighborhood has a car. The neighborhood is designed with cars in mind. To say it will become a food desert requiring government intervention infringing on property rights is ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Same place. Only one Safeway (on Wisconsin in Burleith) within two miles. The WF at Tenleytown (2.9 miles), WF in Glover Park (2.2) and the WF at Friendship (4.2) are further.

Whole Foods 2323 Wisconsin Ave 1.4 miles
Safeway 1855 Wisconsin Ave NW 1.5 miles
Giant 3115 Lee Hwy in Arlington 1.5 miles
Safeway 3713 Lee highway1.5 Miles
Safeway 1525 Wilson Blvd 1.9 Miles

If you need really Upscale the Dean and Deluca is 2.0 miles away.

I realize some of these involve crossing the river, but the point is almost everyone in that neighborhood has a car. The neighborhood is designed with cars in mind. To say it will become a food desert requiring government intervention infringing on property rights is ridiculous.

Your distances are off. According to Google Maps, this distance from the Palisades Safeway (4865 Macarthur Blvd) to
Whole Foods 2323 Wisconsin Ave 2.2 miles
Safeway 1855 Wisconsin Ave NW 1.8 miles
Giant 3115 Lee Hwy in Arlington 3.9 miles
Safeway 3713 Lee highway 4.7 Miles
Safeway 1525 Wilson Blvd 3.2 Miles

These are the correct distances, unless you expected the person to fly by helicopter across the river. Normal people are stuck taking bridges and roads.

This reply is petty and pedantic, but you cannot be loose with "facts" to make them falsely support your thesis. Hold yourself to a higher standard. Do it for yourself, if not others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Same place. Only one Safeway (on Wisconsin in Burleith) within two miles. The WF at Tenleytown (2.9 miles), WF in Glover Park (2.2) and the WF at Friendship (4.2) are further.

Whole Foods 2323 Wisconsin Ave 1.4 miles
Safeway 1855 Wisconsin Ave NW 1.5 miles
Giant 3115 Lee Hwy in Arlington 1.5 miles
Safeway 3713 Lee highway1.5 Miles
Safeway 1525 Wilson Blvd 1.9 Miles

If you need really Upscale the Dean and Deluca is 2.0 miles away.

I realize some of these involve crossing the river, but the point is almost everyone in that neighborhood has a car. The neighborhood is designed with cars in mind. To say it will become a food desert requiring government intervention infringing on property rights is ridiculous.

Are you looking at "as the birds flies" distances? To drive to Whole Foods 2323 Wisconsin Ave, it is 2.4 miles per Google Maps. 4.5 miles to the lee Highway Safeway. I did not check the others. Palisades residents, to my knowledge, do not have wings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Same place. Only one Safeway (on Wisconsin in Burleith) within two miles. The WF at Tenleytown (2.9 miles), WF in Glover Park (2.2) and the WF at Friendship (4.2) are further.

Whole Foods 2323 Wisconsin Ave 1.4 miles
Safeway 1855 Wisconsin Ave NW 1.5 miles
Giant 3115 Lee Hwy in Arlington 1.5 miles
Safeway 3713 Lee highway1.5 Miles
Safeway 1525 Wilson Blvd 1.9 Miles

If you need really Upscale the Dean and Deluca is 2.0 miles away.

I realize some of these involve crossing the river, but the point is almost everyone in that neighborhood has a car. The neighborhood is designed with cars in mind. To say it will become a food desert requiring government intervention infringing on property rights is ridiculous.

Actually, the neighborhood was designed with a trolley car running downtown in mind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Same place. Only one Safeway (on Wisconsin in Burleith) within two miles. The WF at Tenleytown (2.9 miles), WF in Glover Park (2.2) and the WF at Friendship (4.2) are further.

Whole Foods 2323 Wisconsin Ave 1.4 miles
Safeway 1855 Wisconsin Ave NW 1.5 miles
Giant 3115 Lee Hwy in Arlington 1.5 miles
Safeway 3713 Lee highway1.5 Miles
Safeway 1525 Wilson Blvd 1.9 Miles

If you need really Upscale the Dean and Deluca is 2.0 miles away.

I realize some of these involve crossing the river, but the point is almost everyone in that neighborhood has a car. The neighborhood is designed with cars in mind. To say it will become a food desert requiring government intervention infringing on property rights is ridiculous.

Your distances are off. According to Google Maps, this distance from the Palisades Safeway (4865 Macarthur Blvd) to
Whole Foods 2323 Wisconsin Ave 2.2 miles
Safeway 1855 Wisconsin Ave NW 1.8 miles
Giant 3115 Lee Hwy in Arlington 3.9 miles
Safeway 3713 Lee highway 4.7 Miles
Safeway 1525 Wilson Blvd 3.2 Miles

These are the correct distances, unless you expected the person to fly by helicopter across the river. Normal people are stuck taking bridges and roads.

This reply is petty and pedantic, but you cannot be loose with "facts" to make them falsely support your thesis. Hold yourself to a higher standard. Do it for yourself, if not others.

I'm not loose with any facts. I asked how many grocery stores are within 2 miles of that Safeway location. All of the stores are within a two mile radius. If I has said how many are within a 2 mile drive or walk, then my response would have been incorrect. But I didn't say that because I know what I meant.

And I am NOT trying to be pedantic. My point was that there are numerous grocery stores that are close. And for practical purposes there is very little difference between a 2 and a 3 mile drive.

You can nitpick all you want to try and distract from the larger point. But the fact remains that this area is the furthest thing from a food desert with our without that Safeway.

[Anonymous]

Translation:

Yeah, I f*ed and was lazy with my statements. Instead of acquiescing, I'm doubling down, damnit.